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2301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 09, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Putins problem is that his military is apparently not very strong. Putin is committing nearly all his military resources towards Ukraine, and there is a stalemate at best.
This is probably why Ukraine announced the third wave of mobilization. Where did the previous two go? Next question please.

The Ukrainian army in the east has practically no armored vehicles left and no fuel for it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tochka-U missile used for the provocation in Kramatorsk was the last one. But fresh reinforcements on bicycles will arrive soon. Grin

Sure, this must be for bikes. (How many bikes can 13 billion USD buy?)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/us-congress-gives-final-approval-to-13-6b-ukraine-aid-budget

And this is for the pumps and flat tire repairs (how many bike tires can 500million € buy?)

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-ukraine-russia-funding-weapons-budget-military-aid/

You are talking a lot about Putin's military this and Putin's military that... You just don't get it do you? Are you really not seeing the big picture or maybe you are just trying to post until it disappears magically?

Europe and US are not going to let Ukraine fall. There is no limit to the resources that will be put forward to stop Putin in his tracks now that Putin's Russia is shown as an aggressive, militaristic and expansionistic nation.

Ukraine is being severely damaged and it will be the US and Europe rebuilding it, better and greater than ever. Putin's has actually accelerated the process of the Ukrainian people reaching their goal of joining the west and realising the full potential of their country. Do you know that there are no refugee camps for the 4 million Ukrainians that fled? Do you know who are they living with? European families.

Now, go on telling us how great your victories are and how Ukraine is faking this and that. It changes nothing, except the lives of the young Russians and the families, sent to die on behalf of a septuagenarian that overestimated his army, underestimated the Ukrainian people and failed to see the big picture, just as you are failing to see it.


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Can that phone call really be classified as a war crime? I've watched the video and he clearly says that her son is dead because he was killed by artillery fire. They did not execute him as a POW or anything like that, just found the phone next to a corpse.
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The call itself does not class as a crime, but it is certainly cruel. The twisted logic behind this is trying to let the Russian people why are so many of their young soldier not returning home. Putin does not care about them, but their mothers certainly do.
2302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 08, 2022, 11:02:55 PM
The more the Second World War came to an end, the closer were the German victories to Berlin. Grin

You are talking about the tactical retreat / victory in Kyiv?

It sounds like he's talking about Putin's "victories" getting closer to Moscow. Soon we'll be hearing about Russians heroically looting Voronezh to prevent anything valuable from falling into the hands of nazis.

I think some of the posts here help so much the Ukrainian cause. I mean, the ones from be.open mostly.
2303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 08, 2022, 09:43:34 PM
I think Ukraine just doesn't want civilians to leave Kramatorsk to the east

People in the train station were waiting to go west. There are no trains going east. It would be absurd to evacuate towards the front line, of course people are trying to get away from the war.

And:

Kramatorsk local authorities were starting to evacuating residents by buses and cars, according to the mayor of the city Oleksandr Honcharenko.

"Today we are starting an emergency evacuation of people with all public transport, all private transport. We are looking for drivers. Approximate 30-40 drivers are needed as of today," Honcharenko said during an online briefing.

There is no sense in a false flag operation targeting a railway station in such an strategic location. It is a very valuable infrastructure that, at the moment is taking people west, but may also bring troops to the east.

If you wanted to further raise aversion to Putin's military there are targets without any strategic value and plenty of civilians. That is, if you are a total sociopath and this makes sense to you.

No, this was a planned attack to an strategic infrastructure and the fact that there were civilians was indifferent to the psychotic strategists in Putin's army.

You are the victim of Russian propaganda.
The more the Second World War came to an end, the closer were the German victories to Berlin. Grin

You are talking about the tactical retreat / victory in Kyiv?

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In your fantasies, you can debunk anything. It is quite easy to determine with great accuracy where the rocket came from, it was fired from a distance of 45 km southwest of Kramatorsk.

And in your fantasies you can "prove" anything. Even if you are not presenting any evidence. The missile came from Shakhtarsk.
2304  Other / Politics & Society / The Gaseous Elephant in Putin's war on: April 07, 2022, 11:42:05 PM
There is a Gaseous Elephant in Putin's aggression. We may be looking at the real reason for this war.

https://hir.harvard.edu/ukraine-energy-reserves/

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Excluding Russia’s gas reserves in Asia, Ukraine today holds the second biggest known gas reserves in Europe. As of late 2019, known Ukrainian reserves amounted to 1.09 trillion cubic meters of natural gas, second only to Norway’s known resources of 1.53 trillion cubic meters. Yet, these enormous reserves of energy remain largely untapped. Today, Ukraine has a low annual reserve usage rate of about 2 percent. Moreover, more active exploration may yield previously undiscovered gas fields, which would further increase the overall volume of Ukraine’s deposits.

Yet Ukraine, lacking the investment and expertise to kickstart the production is actually a gas importer. This is an open field for Western investment with clear strategic repercussions on the status quo in the zone. It clearly holds the potential for Europe to find an alternative supply to Putin's Russia export and a new frontier for productive investment by the doors of the EU.

It is curious how Putin has detected several points in which to start his "demilitarisation - denazification - de-druggificaiton or whatever" and, what a coincidence you may say, these locations are:

- Kyiv - The government.
- Mariupol - The best industrial port in the south
- Mykolaiv & Zaporizhia - The best steel industry.
- The Dniper region - Iron ore galore.
- Black and Azov seas - gas fields
- The Dniper river (Crimea has no water without it).

And what is now going to be the main fighting area, the recently discovered gas & oil fields in the Dniper basin (2010).

This is very likely the target for the next movement of Putin's army, yet trying to conquer and hold is going to be terrible for Ukraine, but may also very well end the status of Putin's Russia a regional power and their stance in the world. A high stakes game for Putin, not a game at all unfortunately for the people who have to live it.

2305  Economy / Economics / Re: online skills in the face of war on: April 07, 2022, 09:02:27 PM
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Are you responsible for all of that to work? I mean there are those who do this kind of work, and there are those who will not. Just because we "need" these jobs to be filled, doesn't mean that we need to do it ourselves, let others do it. If you want to save yourself, just stop working for something like this, and focus on getting a digital talent that could be hired by some company in a better nation.

No, you don't understand.

Let me give you an example, this is real life, this is happening right now.
One of the biggest meat processing plants around here is desperately looking for 400 qualified employees, if they don't get at least half of them by the end of April they have notified a lot of suppliers (including my parent's farm) they will not be able to process the mean, not buy the pigs, and not honor our contracts. This will mean we have either to keep feeding the animals at a loss, try to sell them at a loss one at a time, or, whatever.

The guy that keeps pressing F5 to find a freelance job will walk happily into the store after getting paid 200$ and see that the prices of pork have risen from 4 euros a kilo to 10, and he will look dumb folded why is this shit happening! There is an insane demand for physical presence and physical labor right now on the market, with wages that are well over that the average Joe that has just learned to make a WordPress install will ever be able to make and people still think about digital jobs! How many digital jobs do you think we need!

The logistic center next to my office that has a lot of guys coming to the same coffee shop at break time is looking for qualified forklift drivers, paying 13 euros per hour, that's 30% above the median wage. Look at everything skyrocketing in price! That's because we don't have truck drivers, we don't have farmers, we don't have butchers, we don't have construction workers, we don't have retail workers in chain stores! Digital skills, digital skills! To whom are millions of new workers with digital skills going to sell those?

Do you think that if 100 million people start trading tomorrow they will all make at least 500$ a month? Where is that money going to come from? If another 100 million starts making and writing content, who is going to buy that content where there will not be enough people to even read that!

Usually if you do not find workers is because they have better options. For example, if they have digital skill they will not want to work in the processing plant.
2306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: April 07, 2022, 08:57:09 PM
There is no doubt now that Benzema is the main weapon for the Real Madrid squad, how this spearhead has done his job so well not only in La Liga but also in the Champions League. When Real Madrid hit a stalemate it was this player who saved the team with his incredible goals. I've come to think about how Real Madrid would be if they didn't have Benzema this season. Will they experience a stalemate or are there other players who play the role of Benzema.

Real Madrid is clearly punching above its weight. I just could not believe that they managed to defeat Chelsea on the Champions and it is magnificent to see them even when they are very far from being the best Real ever, perhaps not even close to other years in which they had even more "stars" playing in most of the field roles. Let us see if they now keep up in La Liga or there is a chance for a more exciting season end.
2307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the next big industry move? on: April 07, 2022, 08:52:47 PM
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I would be interested in trying to play slots or poker with a VR headset, but I don't think it will find widespread use for at least a couple of years. Currently there is too little infrastructure for developers and the technology is still very expensive for a wide range of users. If we talk about Web 3.0 integration, I don't think it's difficult to implement.

It may be a revolution really, the real-life casinos have honestly an stance and clout that the on-line world matches only with ease of use, acceptance of crypto and the fact that you can play them from your living. If somehow the digital world produces a really good prototype of virtual reality - not like Oculus and the headaches that gives to many - but a real like experience it would be a great move.
2308  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Game on: April 07, 2022, 08:46:23 PM

The person who actually gambles is the person who can talk about gambling with sense and reliability. It's one thing to know gambling; it's another to actually experience it. So for one to be able to really discuss about gambling, one has to have a gambling experience.
Agree with what you say, everything can be accepted not only from theory but must be based on experience as well. other than that everything that is discussed will be more connected if indeed they have at least a basic knowledge of it.
It would be very funny to discuss gambling but the people discussing it are people who have never gambled and only rely on theory. this will forever not go well

Yes that is true, you need the practical knowledge and that is also specific to each game, as it is not the same the usual slot machines and all the complexities that some games such as Poker have and it would not be the same knowledge. However, I do not think there is anyone in the world that has not gambled one time or another, even when kids play staking games of any short.
2309  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sign Up Bonuses on: April 07, 2022, 08:43:34 PM
Hey OP, so what's the Update in your search for Gambling site that will fit your desire about bonuses? have you found at least one ?

please mind updating us here because what i found in all of your created threads? after the creation you never give a chance updating lol.

I don't think he is serious about it and only this topic to talk about something that is related to gambling. I don't think he can find any gambling sites here that would give free credits without depositing. I think faucet is the closest thing he can find in gambling sites.

It would indeed be very suspicious if a gambling site is willing to provide a welcome bonus to anyone just for signing, although it is not impossible. The problem I see is that it would be a system that could potentially be fooled by creating fake users, even if their KYC is strong some hacker out there could find the way to get bonus after bonus. I think that a reasonable sign in should be 25% to 50% of the first deposit.
2310  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling Sites on: April 07, 2022, 08:39:41 PM
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however freebitco does not have a complete selection of games. I really like playing slots and sometimes sports betting, while there is no freebitcoin, so that's why I prefer to play at betfury, bk8 or owl games.
Same thoughts. Freebitco is fast loading since its components are very lightweight. Though it has a lot of users it is still quick to reload, I believe it is fully optimized too.

The preference of the OP matters here, he should tell what games does he want to play.

If he wants to play slots, he should try removing other tabs so the connection will focus only on the site.
If he want to play live games, he configure the video settings to lower resolution, it is avalable.

There is a baseline in options for sites and bookings that depends on the reputation, the publicity and the views of the users that can be found in the forum, as that affects no matter what type of game the user is looking forward to play. Then you can start thinking about the game itself, the speed and other technical parameters, but if you do not go first for only reputable sites is a bad start.
2311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 07, 2022, 08:30:58 PM

I urge you to open a thread on Madeleine, Libia, Syria... You will find plenty of people in the forum to agree with.


I know, you guys are great at acknowledging facts post festum, but you don't return stolen goods
or money or pay reparations
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"oooops, sorry, we bombed you back to stone age, that sucks. We wont return those billions we owe you for oil or those frozen assets, though"

Again, talking about rationalisation to justify an assassin, there is yours.

By the way, I am not sure who is "you" in your mind. I am myself, and have my own views.

Though Ukraine is not an official member of alliance, but according to the NATO Secretary General, their block have trained tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops who are now at war with Russia, NATO supplies Ukraine with various types of weapons. I suppose no one will dispute the fact that the alliance forces are taking part in this military conflict on the side of Ukraine. Although the alliance doesn't want to enter into a direct confrontation with Russia, what is happening now is more like NATO fights against Russia to the last Ukrainian.

As per the rules of war, any non-belligerent country can sell weapons to whoever they decide. As per the rules of international trade, any country can choose the terms in which they decide to trade with others. Some NATO countries are selling supplies to Ukraine and, to be honest, they could be selling much more dangerous equipment and are restraining from it.

About training "thousands of soldiers", that is a claim that would need substantiation, but still, the neutral countries can do so within their rights.

2312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 07, 2022, 06:57:35 PM

Oh boy, really hoping you didn't mean that. So gov just needs to convince average TV watching population that the regime is despotic, and that somehow makes killing their children better? Dehumanizing opponent is part of every warfare, and we're watching unprecedented levels of this here, i expect lots of books written about psy ops, and media coverage of this war after this is all over. Do you not see the irony in your own words, by your logic Russians are justified because they're fighting Nazis, a despotic regime. Is DPRK, Democratic Republic of the Congo are democracies (after all, it's in their name), Uzbekistan, Hungry a democracy, where is a cutoff? Care to rate democracy in Ukraine? If you can judge school bombings by their level of "democracisness" would you be able to rate a bunch of them if i provide examples?


He is probably trying to rationalize UK involvement in bringing democracy to Libya
and Iraq...western media is using that excuse since WW2 when they come after
other countries natural resources

Already answered (yes I do answer, you should try, I may give your claims some sense).

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I meant what I said: A despotic regime with nuclear weapons attacking an (imperfect, yet incipient) democracy is a problem for me personally and for most of the West. As imperfect as democracies are (and the US is getting worse IMHO) are still a step ahead of Tzars and Emperors on freedom. When Putin attacks Ukraine, I feel attacked. This is unrelated to whether they use or not terror tactics or their criminal actions.

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I am not happy with anyone committing crimes. You cannot say the same, can you? Are you ok with Putin killing civilians yes or no? Or maybe... your are just trying to rationalise supporting an assassin?

It cannot be more clear, I have a rationale for my stance on the conflict and is not based on mere coercion or pure force, but on the type of regimes that I would rather live in. If a despot attacks a country that wishes to rule his own destinies, I know where I am.

I do get that your view of the world is different. You are all right with the Tzar invading Ukraine, I am not and, as you can see Ukrainians are not either and the more Putin's army vandalises their country the more they will be against. You cannot grasp this concept because your conception of life is about force and fear.

I do not think that any foreign intervention has made any serious effort to implement democracy in any country in particular because one of the requisites of democracy is education and knowledge of history and that is not something you can force. Again, you cannot understand any of these concepts, from your perspective, the world is no more than a jungle and people are beasts.

I urge you to open a thread on Madeleine, Libia, Syria... You will find plenty of people in the forum to agree with.

2313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 07, 2022, 08:22:01 AM
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We help Ukraine to move towards a NATO membership by implementing reforms, by meeting NATO standards
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Has a girl (or boy) ever told you "no, but we can be friends"? Well, in diplomatic terms this means "certainly not yet" or even "possibly not ever" but we can be friends.

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Russian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Aleksandr Grushko warned:...

Again, Putin's WARNED .. that is, your country will do as I say or I will start killing you all. How is that acceptable to any nation? People around do not seem to understand that people are willing to fight and die for their freedom, which leads me to think they have never fought for theirs.

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Ok so Russia doing the same shit US and NATO did. Big powers do what big powers do, wage wars for sphere of influence. All are shit. I'm assuming you're a logical person, and addressing the issue starting with the biggest offenders? And being objective you covered demolition of Raqqa the city about the size of Mariupol, how many children, women, elderly died? How many maternity wards, hospitals, kindergartens were bombed there, what percentage of infrastructure was left standing? How does it compare to Mariupol, in term of civilian casualties?

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From a practical perspective, the US is not threating Europe and, for me, Attacking a democracy is not the same as attacking a despotic regime.

Oh boy, really hoping you didn't mean that. So gov just needs to convince average TV watching population that the regime is despotic, and that somehow makes killing their children better?...

Any attack on civils or wanton destruction is criminal, that is out of the question.

I meant what I said: A despotic regime with nuclear weapons attacking an (imperfect, yet incipient) democracy is a problem for me personally and for most of the West. As imperfect as democracies are (and the US is getting worse IMHO) are still a step ahead of Tzars and Emperors on freedom. When Putin attacks Ukraine, I feel attacked. This is unrelated to whether they use or not terror tactics or their criminal actions.

That is what Putin just could not understand, as you seem not to understand either, and one of the causes for the significant setbacks his army is having: People will put a fight for their right to govern themselves, even if they make a mess it will be their mess. Particularly, after decades of communism and enjoying a glimpse of freedom, is unlikely they will accept being de-facto governed by a foreign power that is particularly violent.

As I have said in many posts, the Ukrainians are choosing - and putting their Javelins where their mouths are.

I do not go into who is worst or who does the civil killing best, that is not "logic". As said in several posts, several US governments and presidents have committed crimes against peace, crimes against humanity and war crimes. The US has setup a world stage in which their wealthy elites choose who dies and who lives, even inside the US. How could other than them or a brainwashed population be happy about it? But, if you want to talk about that wathabout you can open an specific thread, you will have many contributors.

That requires Ukraine to win on battlefield
Work in progress.
You are feeding a dangerous and destructive illusion. Ukraine did not have and does not have a chance to defeat Russia. The only question is the number of victims and the scale of destruction. According to NATO estimates, 400 thousand soldiers are needed to take control over Ukraine only east of the Dnieper, Russia, together with the people's militia of Donbass, used almost half as many. Almost 600,000 people were mobilized and armed from the Ukrainian side along with the defense units. Numerical superiority should not be misleading when the military infrastructure is badly destroyed, airfields, weapons depots, fuel depots, military equipment - everywhere there are heavy losses from missile strikes by Caliber and other high-precision weapons. The army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is now actually deprived of the ability to maneuver in a coordinated manner, it is divided into separate formations under the control of field commanders, and all supply logistics east of the Dnieper is seriously disrupted. This anarchist resistance of Ukraine on naked patriotism, I think, will quickly dry up due to its complete hopelessness and senselessness.

I see. Look, you have to put "tactical" before saying that type of stuff but it sound better. For example "Putin's army made a tactical retreat from Kyiv". See... that does not sound like a defeat now.

Ukraine will be rebuilt. Who will rebuild Putin's Russia prestige and stance in the world?


2314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 08:49:31 PM
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Ironically enough, Putin is demanding that Ukraine remains neutral and disarm themselves in order for the war to end. You don't think Russia wouldn't immediately invade once more after some number of years when Ukraine is fully demilitarized? If you don't think trusting the West is a good idea, fine. Putin wouldn't be the lesser of two evils though.
... from the Ukraine corruption rubble)...

As opposed to the morally upstanding and incorruptible Russian cleptocracy goverment?
2315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 08:44:54 PM


So you are basing the right of Putin to invade Ukraine on the theory that NATO would attack Ukraine.

I didn't mention NATO attacking Ukraine

That's what you got from my post?

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Ironically enough, Putin is demanding that Ukraine remains neutral and disarm themselves in order for the war to end. You don't think Russia wouldn't immediately invade once more after some number of years when Ukraine is fully demilitarized? If you don't think trusting the West is a good idea, fine. Putin wouldn't be the lesser of two evils though.

They should reject disarming, accept neutrality, ask for EU membership,  reject Donbas area as sovereign countries (but give them broad autonomy inside Ukraine), and they should forget about Crimea

Each passing day more people will die and more both sides will be reluctant to give up fighting and looking for peaceful solution

Of course, they could both choose to be stubborn

From all that, the only thing that would not accept, like any other country in the world, is to give away part of its territory without putting up a fight.

Do you think Putin would ever accept those conditions anyway?
2316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 08:19:18 PM
As comrade Xi said: if we did not kill 10 000 students at Tienanmen, CIA backed colour revolution would kill
10 million. Statesmen sometimes have to make tough decisions

Now you can continue to be moral verticals in a perfect world

Once more, I would need you to clarify your position: Are you saying that Putin has invaded Ukraine because if not more people would have died? And if so, what are the grounds for such an assertion?


USA would attack them, and millions would die. Look no further than Libya...USA promised them security after they destroy WMDs, and look what happened.
USA also promised not to expand NATO, and look what happened. USA installed Saddam and look what happened to their friend. USA created Osama bin Laden,
and look what happened to him.
Never trust USA.

As Putin said in the interview you don't want to watch: "the more we trusted USA, the more greedy they became"

So you are basing the right of Putin to invade Ukraine on the theory that NATO would attack Ukraine. How would that exactly be? Like all the sudden the US would decide to invade an European country, which in your own theory has a CIA created government, basically alienating in the process all his major allies by causing a war in Europe?

Could it be that the explanation of why the Ukrainian people and army have decided to fight a cruel and inhuman destruction machine such as Putin's army because it is actually them that do not want to be ruled by such an animal?
2317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 06:45:47 PM
As comrade Xi said: if we did not kill 10 000 students at Tienanmen, CIA backed colour revolution would kill
10 million. Statesmen sometimes have to make tough decisions

Now you can continue to be moral verticals in a perfect world

Once more, I would need you to clarify your position: Are you saying that Putin has invaded Ukraine because if not more people would have died? And if so, what are the grounds for such an assertion?

For now, your timeline of posts is:

- Ukraine wanted to be invaded.
- Putin is right in invading because Ukraine did not do as told, so he is in his right to kill them.
- Putin can invade Ukraine because the US blockaded Cuba in the 60s.
- Putin can commit crimes against peace and humanity because others committed them before.
- Putin is doing this because he is trying to avoid people being killed.

I just cannot wait for your next justification for the shelling of cities, the deaths of thousands of young Russian soldiers and the criminal killing of Ukrainian children . It is amazing how children can make excuses for their behaviour (I forgot my homework at home, he started first...) and how this sometimes goes into adulthood, just a bit more elaborated (sometimes anyway).

Let's make something clear: Do you think Putin has the right to tell Ukraine what they can and cannot do in their country?
The current version of the Russian Constitution declares the priority of Russian law over international law. Putin made a request to the State Duma to use the army outside of Russia in the interests of Russia and the Duma said yes, and the Council of Federations also approved this. All the formalities have been met, in principle Putin is acting within the legal framework of Russia, so the answer to your question is yes.

I would formulate the question differently in the current realities: Can anyone stop Putin to tell Ukraine what they can and cannot do in their country (if it threatens Russia's interests)?

You are a fountain of humour. I obviously was speaking about the moral right or at least an international mandate of shorts, not about the permission from his own politicians (with no opposition visible) and the laws that he makes to his own liking.

Your argument then is that Putin can do it because he controls an larger army and (in theory) superior to Ukraine's. On that you are honest, you are not even pretending to have any real reason. That is the argument that led to WWII, Hitler started the war because he felt his country was superior, his army better and somehow their were due something. It is well know to be the source of escalation and hundreds of years of war that have made Europe (and Russia) weaker in each iteration.

Can anyone stop Putin? It depends of what you understand by stopping. For example, can someone stop him from invading Kyiv? Apparently yes. The Ukrainian army and people.  Can anyone stop him from imposing a regime in Ukraine? Apparently yes, the Ukrainian army and people.

Can someone stop him from killing children, his own young soldiers and defenceless civilians while impoverishing his own country? Probably not in the short term.
2318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 01:30:13 PM
What was Putin asking them to do that was unacceptable?

Asking? He was taking, not asking - Donbas and Crimea. That's unacceptable.

Do you approve 2014 CIA organized coup in Ukraine?

Loaded question. The current Ukrainian government is democratically elected. I wouldn't be so sure about Putin's buddy Yanukovych, but it's definitely up to Ukrainians to decide whom they want to elect, not up to Putin.

Do you approve NATO spreading to east, although they promised they won't to Gorbachev?

Loaded question again. It's up to each country to decide if they want to join NATO, not up to Putin.



So I take it you think that Ukraine and subsequently every country in Europe should just give up and gift themselves to Putin.

By not answering Branko is already answering. Once more people are not what they say, but what they do. In this case, what he does not do - giving an answer because he would have to recognise that, in his mind, his view of the world is about force and despotism.
2319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 06, 2022, 01:27:03 PM
Nope, Putin said A and he did A.
Also, I put video of Zelensky advisor saying "we know Putin will attack if we do A, but we will do it
anyway" previously, but someone removed my post without explanation, so I won't repost it

So the Ukrainians should have just given up and done what Putin was telling them to do, is that your point? And then what?


What was Putin asking them to do that was unacceptable?
Do you approve 2014 CIA organized coup in Ukraine?
Do you approve NATO spreading to east, although they promised they won't to Gorbachev?

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Let's make something clear: Do you think Putin has the right to tell Ukraine what they can and cannot do in their country? Do you class invading if they choose something else is somehow acceptable?

Is that a yes or a no?
2320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Economic sanctions are not a war declaration on: April 06, 2022, 12:38:02 PM
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If any economy could come close to coping with being cut off from the world, it would be Russia’s.
In short, it looks like the Russians пoxyй about sanctions.


You have exchanged all your roubles to US or bitcoin haven't you?

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