I would not trust suchmoon at all.

1. she observably  "red trusts" persons for "supporting" a "possible" scam.
2. she then adds to her trust inclusions "proven" liars, proven trust abusers, proven sneaky racist trolling sig spamming puppet accounts and "possible" extortionists.
3. she excludes person who point out these untrustworthy persons past deeds and also attacks them in public.
4. she is a caustic bully and front man for liars and other untrustworthy scum.
5. she is NOT an excellent member at all unless those things make you excellent


she has observable double standards and is a caustic piece of shit to deal with. People accuse me of being caustic but if you retrace my history here in "merit board" i started off very civil and diplomatic but she is simply a total asshole to deal with and only responds to being treated as the sneaky bullying snitchy skank that she is.

Same for her colluding ass kissing "gang" which laughably they claim does not exist when anyone can see clearly they all slather each other in cycled merits, all included each other and many of them collude to exclude the same people and bunch together in any thread where one of them is called out for the shit they pull.

Trying to create a decentralised control system on an anonymous forum that crushes scammers and leaves free speech untouched and a board happy with the "decentralised" governance is likely IMPOSSIBLE.

I  mean even trying it risky but starting it off with people that are already proven to collude and also be VERY untrustworthy and quite likely to be scammers themselves is pure folly.

My opinion is that Theymos is overall GOOD but is willing to let some people get roughed up a bit by these goons. I speculate that he takes a machine like approach to making this board the environment crypto needs.

He notices these scumbags also happen to be very willing to spend hours trawling the board looking for "other scammers" to legitimize their claims to "power" (which is reward enough for most of them to motivate their efforts)  and to justify any "net negative" actions they take.

So he is thinking well let them help regulate the scammers and cheats here (although mostly it is whack a mole) and if there is a bit of collateral damage here then tough shit for now on those that get "unfairly" treated to a scam tag for standing up to their high handed double standards crap.

I mean in fairness to Theymos he just said scam tags are for scammers and for those strongly related to scamming. Guess what though the scumbags here don't give 1 fuck what he says because so far he is very slow to bring any actions at all to those that do not follow his guidelines. He is too relaxed. I mean THE SAME group implicated in an EXTORTION scheme suddenly act as a GROUP again to red trust someone who brings suggests persons examine their past history here to discover what they are really like. This is the OPPOSITE of what red trust is for. You cant have liars giving red trust to honest persons. That is fucking madness.

Also I think he has some kind of other highly paid job and probably does not research too deeply things that some of us that are anal about the forum are wise too. So he may not realised just how scummy and dirty the pasts of some of these merit sources and DT are.

To me anyone that says suchmoon is an "excellent" member needs to review her entire history here. She has always been a caustic little bully (or tries to be) and even now her "net positive" is far less than I believe he has miscalculated.

An excellent memeber should be

1.fair
2.honest
3.helpful
4.sticks up for the weakest
5.fights bullies
6.pushes for equality
7.puts the good of the forum before their own selfish personal financial gain.



Hanging only in meta can give a very distorted view of this board and the members on it. I have been a part of many many many communities and also spent many hours studying persons here and I say a lot of the best have left and most are now not posting much. What you are left with here in meta is a concentration of nobodies and big old nothing burgers.  Most have supported scams in the past for financial gain and have a history of bullying people. The rest are a bunch of noobs that are ass kissing these bullies and manipulators and adopting their politics so they can simply be granted access to PAID2POST at the levels their "masters" are.


Also Theymos is too easily coaxed by some others. I mean removing "politically motivated" merits was a terrible and unjust move the really does support your argument that he favours these scummy little dishonest bullying shits a bit too much. Most of their merit is politically motivated. I mean people like foxpoop and suchmoron seem to have endless merit to sprinkle to anyone that backs up their political agenda here.

Merit is the main issue here. Suchmoon seems determined to to enforce this broken nonsense and tell everyone that it is given to the "greatest posters" and most valuable who are therefore for some reason the most trustworthy??
However, then debunked her own argument by telling me " Good Poster or Bad Poster are MEANINGLESS terms without criteria and definition. So this MEANINGLESS nonsense is now the key to running the board and crushing free speech.

1. tighten the systems of control so they are transparent and treat every person fairly and equally
a/ mandate for merit and trust with strict criteria and punishment for breaking it
2. get rid of this notion of decentralised systems and just go back to a THEYMOS elected DT and do not give merit any use except for stopping account farmers. That is all it is useful for at this point and it should be decoupled from rank after snr rank. I mean after taking all this hassle to reach snr then if you start spamming and abusing it will be a big risk to have it banned or all of your merits deleted.

I am not so ungrateful for the things this board has given me and what has started here to say anything really negative about theymos, but really he does need to investigate much more deeply into the pasts of the people his systems are enabling to grab power here. Also the implications of such abused systems for the future free speech of this board. They clearly motivate an echo chamber and punish dissenting views. There can be no sensible argument against this."

It is possible he has worked out the "long" game here where these systems will eventually start to show some kind of self regulating however I do not see it unless you make 100's of new merit sources totally disconnected from the "meta gang" and soon. The 250 cycled merits threshold and those infesting the key positions to me say the system could not have had a worse start.

I am still very hopeful about the forum long term. I just think we need a bit of a wake up call before the entrenchment of bad eggs gets a little too deep and unassailable.

Merit was useful but now we are trying to build skyscrapers upon foundations that were originally developed for mud huts. Stick to using it for keeping away account farmers only and cut it off after snr.  There is little meaning to it so let's not fool ourselves it is some kind of objective metric with universal meaning including being trustworthy. It is ludicrous.



Not true. Ridding the system of proven liars and other untrustworthy scum is not untrustworthy in itself. That is simply not true.
Actually a decentralised system requires exactly this type of action to keep things in check. To immediately remove their merits and take away one merit source who actually stands out from "the gang" is an act to crush any real attempt at decentralisation. Suchmoons suggestion I note. More snitching from that turd. Always all coaxing and servile when addressing Theymos I notice what a little snake.


TLDR - Theymos is likely trying to do good -- but he needs to realise starting off a decentralised experiment with proven untrustworthy scum entrenched deep inside the trust system and fully weaponized with more ammunition (merits) to hold off their opposition and other honest members who speak out against them is a DREADFUL  start.  The systems are wide open to abuse, provide incentive and motivation for abusing.
I worry more about general free speech here in future.

I said snitched not stitched but yes it is pretty much the same in her case.

Well, why not take some initiative. Create a list put those copy and pasters on it with a date and tell them they will not be allowed to have a sig for 2 years or whatever.

 If they are caught with one on. We have plenty of snitchers like suchmoon for that (give them those new shiny snitcher badges they are begging for). They then put a sig on in that time frame...boom they are banned.

There will not be a huge amount of those that can prove net positive achievements and were not financial copy and pasting so will not be a massive list.

ah the COWARDLY trash are here to highlight just how stupid and net negative they are and how much this swamp needs draining. Suchmoon is obviously scared to face me under her usual skanky account that is my strong suspicion here. Or one of the other scum like lauda another untrustworthy coward.


Let's tackle your 4th point first you disgusting piece of cowardly sock puppeting shit.

Your report is nothing but an attempt to silence me from telling the truth under a false premise that you don't have the brain to understand.

Your sock puppet retarded report is a fucking JOKE and shows how scared you are of me.

The COPY AND PASTED text (the first one) is a text that was cross used by me and others tons and tons  of times to fight the VERY SAME SCAM you and your pals lauda were pumping and LYING ABOUT and trying to scam others into investing in.

That actual text was provided by a scam fighting supporter of mine who actually created it to help ME fight that scam. I missed to reference it a few times from tons of times when I was presenting it to people I had presented it to already MANY TIMES before who knew who created it because it was at the top of all of the MAIN dark coin war threads on the alt discussion board for months . YES that is the biggest scam here ever and yes i did force an air drop offered that was worth 2 BILLION DOLLARS. So although you think you are highlighting something you think I did wrong. You are actually highlighting a great and NET POSITIVE thing that I have done beyond anything you will ever do here. SOCK PUPPET COWARD


The second part is even more stupid. The people who I was talking too in that thread (dark scum supporters) knew 100% that i was not THE DASH GUY (LOL) he was a prior huge dash whale and prior fan of it hahah. It even says his name who people knew who exactly who he was in his post. The very nature of the text if you read it does obviously not describe myself you dumb piece of shit so claiming it as my own is laughable. The rest of the page and discussion tell you everyone accept you knows it could never be me... haha this is why morons should not meddle with things they don't understand.

Only a fucking moron like yourself that has no clue of the history of that scam and my excellent work in highlighting it and preventing it knocking BTC from top spot could even consider reporting that.

The other false accusations are easy to crush as your feeble mind.

But your point 3 is the best and demonstrates you are clearly a broken and desperate fool.  

A sockpuppet that was created by ( I suspect suchmoon after I humiliated and broke her mind several times until she started spouting ludicrous and deranged statements and debunking her own arguments who tries to get me banned by scanning my entire 13k post for just one shitty excuse haha) now starts lying in public and making more false allegations about me lying (prove it) having a sock puppet (prove it)

So you come here to tell more lies , make more false allegations and highlight what a dirty skank you are for trying to get a proven scam hunter who forced a 2BILLION DOLLAR air drop to the board for fairness banned because YOU do not understand the context that I copy and pasted and not the persons on that thread. That is your reason you think I will fear you? tell everyone 100x a day because that makes me look like a  god here.

If the rest of the board was not such a bunch of sloths they would have had 2 billion dollars worth of coins to share for free because of me fighting for fairness here and crushing scum like you to admit it was a scam so lauda your pal and the pharmacist and that piece of shit nutildah, and i think suchmoon all into that scam were proven scam promoters and protectors and I was correct all along.

You think this will discredit me you dumb shit. Let's think of a suitable punishment based on the net positive gains here. Well instead of removing my sig, just club together and get me 1 Billion dollars as a 50% fee for fighting for fairness for you all. I will then donate it to charities of my own choosing. Don't worry the brain injuries clinic will get enough to keep you in your dribbling cowarldy state for a few more years.

ALL of this copy and paste bullshit is nothing other than a tactical weapon for scum like suchmoon that snitching bitching dumb piece of cowardly shit to wield some power. Fuck her and anyone that uses this sneaky snitching crap against real legends. Hence why I have defended any legend that gets this crap thrown at them if it was not to game the system for financially motivated reasons. You are here because you don't want sigs to be removed plain and simple.

I have no respect for cowardly snitches. Stand up to people in public you pathetic cowards.

I mean snitches that use their own accounts are scum but snitches that need to create puppet accounts.....Well scum is too good for them. You are the lowest of the low and anyone doubting what a scum bag you are and what a coward you are is just as bad.

Now back to on topic because as always the scum buster crew are looking very worried about this suggestion of having their sig spamming curbed and bringing out lies and false claims.

Drain the swamp time, the sig powered dirt bags won't be posting much here once the sig spam bucks dry up. haha

@hilarious and "co" ? who are the CO here??

I notice that you are meriting yet again a post contain a lot of INCORRECT assumptions and that is very politically motivated whilst of course ignoring my very important questions that you have ignored before.

You also seem to be condoning by attributing merit cowardly sock puppeting again here, and someone spewing incorrect, misleading and damaging net negative trash. I have just destroyed his entire case and also highlighted the fact she is a deceitful coward.

Would you like to debate with my now why it looks rather shady and also demonstrates a complete lack of good judgement to

1. meriting dog shit like this from a cowardly sock puppet casting lies at me about having a sock puppet whilst is an observable sock puppet themselves.
2..not explaining the reasoning behind including SEVERAL proven Dirt bags into a trust system

This is not how mods should be acting in cases such as these. Stop worrying you should keep your sig and I will protect you from any harsh treatment from "the gang".

Now unless you want to ban me for

1. being the most observably fair and caring person on this board. Often sticking up for bullied persons when it results in me getting flack. Always pushing for the fairest distributions here in the past even when I could have gained more leaving them as they were.
2. getting the largest financial offer from a schemer to right a wrong in the history of this board.
3. pointing out the honest implications for free speech here.
4. asking you to do you job

then answer my questions and start kicking these trust abusing scum sucking net negative cowards and financially motivated scam supporters off of this board or deleting their sigs. Not sitting around getting paid to stick up for them, merit them, include them on DT and crush down the truth.

 I have just about had enough of people sneaky meriting and sniping at me who will not discuss the facts. Meriting this cowardly puppet for spewing incorrect dirt and out of context misleading lies.

Will you debate this with me YES OR NO ?

I have had just about enough of some admin taking the side of these proven liars, scam promoters, trust abusers, greedy sneaky sock puppet racist trolls sig spammers, and now cowardly fucking lying puppets (probably suchmoron or one of those scumbags) and showing them favour. You are meant to be impartial and evaluate the full case from both sides.

Try to read and understand the entire post.

The facts are that you are spamming your sig constantly and it has NOTHING to do with a promising project that you believe in.

Also you are observably fighting to retain the ability to spam your sig here.

Remove your sig and we can then presume you are not just here for financial gain. Or find a novel and interesting project that you believe can make a difference or help attract people to crypto. Can you not read the OP?


1. i hardly ever wear a sig (or leave an old one of for many months obviously it does not get receive rewards after) that does not sound like some grubby little sig spammers actions trying for max profits does it?

2. policy pal has a chance to use crypto to make a huge difference to the insurance industry.

3. I have not even sold these coins and actually if you read my history you will see I am a "collector" of coins (old ones and interesting ones) here and often do not sell any of them or just a small part of them. I have over 300 different projects many of which I mined or bought to keep for posterity. A real enthusiast for a particular thing likes to collect items related to that which he is enthusiastic about. I still have many of my originally mined coins in my wallets. I could have sold them many times for HUGE financial rewards.

let's not confuse that with what you are doing with your sig.

Sure, people want to make money here along the way I wanted to make money and I made money it was great I loved it and am enjoying my GAINZZZZ . I never said this is a "bad" thing. When it becomes a "bad" thing is when you put that desire above the desire to do the "right" thing morally and  before the "right" thing for the good of crypto. Making money is not a bad thing when you compete fairly against others on a level playing field and win. I have fought to change distributions when I can gain a lot, to a different distribution method ..where I will gain far less but it is far fairer for all.

Do you really believe someone such as myself whom was on the great majority of POW alt coin launches prior to ico trash showing up. The launch that is not just mining at some point and believe me when I say i was great at getting on that chain with my rigs very quickly. However you will see that I fought for fair launch protocols.

 Having been there through 2 huge bull runs and having been a NEM stake holder, and having purchased NXT the day after the ICO. Then to have predicted in public  6 of the top 10 rising projects in the last wave (way before they went insane)  and having been thanked publicly by many persons and in PMs by many that had next to nothing that turned to millionaires. (that is starting with next nothing not a HUGE pile of crypto) that I would need to spam a sig for financial reasons. Not to be boastful because that is not the kind of person I am.

Try to imagine starting with huge crypto portfolio and moving from one to the other as each hit their huge upswing (of course not perfectly but if people with nothing turned to millionaires then even you can start to imagine). I mean I would simply not have the inclination to worry about spamming for btc dust. That is not just boasting that is presenting the reason why I have not in many years bothered with sigs and must have one of the least sig used for profit accounts of any legend that was not a super btc whale back in days before I joined. I have actually given a huge proportion of my own money away to people because I simply don't need that much money anyway. Although I have noticed giving people large sums of money is not always good for them so you can try to do a good thing and actually it was a mistake.

Do you see any lack of posting motivation since I have ever removed a sig ? I mean am I posting more now than ever though I am on vacation for example? why because the systems need changing for fairer and less abused systems by you and your pals.

Now as to my achievements here. Well let's group all of yours together and say well done noob, you have helped implement some measures to prevent some 2 bit spammers or at least slow them down until they find some ways to circumvent the measures. I mean you suggested a few things that could help the whack a mole crews jobs easier and helped clean up the boards a bit "perhaps". So "perhaps" I was over stating you were actual trash in that regard.

However any of that "semi good" stuff you have apparently done yourself ( i didn't check because as you know I am very lazy and also I am doing other things in life except trawling peoples pasts here) to me is bit of a  waste of time however well meaning. WHY? because as long as there is financial reward here for anything other than finding great projects then you will always get people trying to game the system to their own financial reward.

Also you are clearly one to revel in the prevention of 3rd world people making some dust to survive (which I actually have said before I am sympathetic to but understand we can't have it due to it ruining the posting environment for all persons). WHILST at the same time are one to support and bolster people that are proven liars, proven trust abusers and also one of the greedy sneaky sock puppet sig spammers that you claim you wish to prevent?

 Also you are either too blind or foolish to realise that I am suggesting things that prevent abuse and gaming of paid2post from the top down which is far more important. You are also too busy to come to my thread of the year and assist me pushing for a fairer and more equal system for all that does not leave the jack boot of your "pals" on the neck of free speech.

So i mean I could view your "prevention" of other spammers as really just one big ploy to game the system so that you and your pals can sig spam more effectively for yourselves right? Same for these others who find some 2 bit scammers so they can justify their extortions and other shady stuff.

You are trawling my post histories apparently back to some project I even forgotten I had supported but can not apparently find where I have listed my achievements (well just a handful of them) at least 5 times in the last couple of weeks. LOL.

Do I really need to list them again? it seems extremely boastful,  and cheesy and almost unbelievable (although all true) of course a few of the measures you have suggested are perhaps useful...however to compare them to my own is completely ludicrous. I mean we could vanquish all of those by just BANNING SIGS. I didn't yet fully investigate the only one that really interested me (because I am busy enjoying myself) but if you have found a way to stop the pretend conversations and bump spamming of shitty icos (which i doubt that you have) that would be a MAJOR benefit to the board. However, as I said i don't think this is really going to be possible since I have thought about ways to prevent this and can see no way.

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TLDR

1. I'm "better" than you in all conceivable ways so don't seek to lecture me in a condescending tone on anything.
2. Remove your sig or find a real project that you believe in that could make a difference in crypto
3. Stop asskissing and supporting proven liars, trust abusers and sneaky sock puppet sig spamming racist trolls.
4 Never dream you will find anything in my post history that you will spin into me not having impeccable morals and totally righteous.
5. I will add more here when I feel like it.

Of course you must never take me 100% seriously or you will upset yourself more than you need. I enjoy presenting facts and observable events in a playful way especially whilst I enjoy a nice foot massage (these oils they use are lovely these peppermint ones feel both cool and refreshing). If you are not a simple ass kissing noob trash scumbag implementing a few measures to bolster your own paid2post postions and those of your dishonest and trust abusing masters then I am sorry to have cast you in that light. Perhaps you are just undercover and demanding to keep sigs here in meta for extra deception?

If you are a good member then stand up for a fairer system that is more transparent and equal for all persons that will create a true meritocracy and an environment where crypto can flourish. Once i see you supporting a fairer and more transparent system then I will say already that you are a REAL legend (just like me).
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@hilarious

Because as I have explained that "meta" is where the specific discussions relating to the "policies" that govern PAID2POST amongst other things are discussed and formed.  These systems of control slipping in under admin level are dangerous. You can't have those that are  most greedily benefiting from these systems and their influence on the board here in meta doing all the coaxing on how to develop these systems for their further selfish gain.

Besides you are a moderator are you not? then this does not suggest removing mods sigs nor their accounts. I do not believe mods are as damaging to free speech here. Since they work within a reasonably clear mandate and are answerable for that to theymos and there is a course for appeals. In that way the board works nicely. So they have no real self interest as such to influence board policy accept to be "pals" with the in crowd. So should be allowed sigs.

However, they could be seen to indirectly be having an influence on free speech if they are supporting within the systems of control proven liars, trust abusers and sneaky sock puppet racist sig spammers. This is why I do not think mods should support anyone on their trust lists that have ANY financially motivated DIRT on their post histories or actually anyone else who is supporting them directly.

I have no idea why you are supporting these scoundrels and trust abusers to reside within a trust system. Get them out if you are a moderator, and order them to reverse their trust abuse or take their sigs away full time. Or make me a mod and I will zap these little scamps back into line in 5 mins.

I see you can now zap their sigs out from under them. Well then, tell them you have 2 weeks to remove all  of your trust abuse or kiss your "highly paid sigs" good bye for a year or 2. Watch those red marks vanish.

Persons scamming here or putting their own financial gain above the good of the board need to be taught a quick lesson. Slap their sigs off of them. This new sig removal power opens up some really good ways to change things here because the worst of the worst love their sigs.

I actually think you may be on to something.

Lucky for you that you just discovered merit club. Now that you're here.


First rule about merit club....

Thanks, that is comedy gold.
That is up there with a suchmoon level admission.
Don't blame me if you're late and they start moaning. More back stabbing coming your way.

FFS every attention seeking vixen and snitchy bitch wants my attention. I am on vacation right. Wait your turn. I asked if you wanted those threads I did not say you would be getting those threads. Are you not late for your next merit sprinkle on some untrustworthy scum bag you support.

1. I am not complaining, such moon is complaining it does not understand.
2. I am simply telling her and you if you are unable to understand then you must fall in to the category of sub human intelligence that can not fill in the tiny missing gaps and errors.
3. I am not going to spend time reading over it after i hack it out, nor spell check it. If you can not use context to place a meaning to a word spelled incorrectly or a missed comma then get back to school.


get it now?

No you are just being stupid and are unable to discern a simple instruction.

You said "who said anything about writing style".

I said well your ass kissing pal did in his post.

Sorry if the complexity is getting too much.

If you can't get that now don't worry about it. Just get back to snitching or knitting or reading about my illustrious past imagining you could date someone of my calibre one day.

You're out of your depth here.

Anyway why am I wasting time here now that I have you back

Here now you answer my questions suchmoron.

Since your obsessed with sock puppets. What is your reasoning behind supporting a proven sock puppet greedy and sneaky racist trolling sig spammer like your pal the pharmacist?  I mean you approve obviously? haha

More questions on the way. I mean since you have totally derailed the entire thread then I may as well just use it to ask you questions whilst you are here insisting on derailing.

Of course when you type at the speed I do you will make a few small errors and I will not check shit for you as I have told you before. I like that you need to read my scraps. Although most people with any kind of human level intelligence would be able to fill in any small gaps, errors to gain the meaning. I like that it requires you to struggle and often fail.
 

Fuck you are dumb. Look to his post above my own it says it clearly there in your assmunchers post above my own.
Says hilarious claims its the same. Although I never see hilarious and co say it is the same just speculates it is me for some reason that he is quite free to express now.

Can you see it NOW ?? ScumBuster?? far more likely you are a puppet user you dirty skank. I don't say you are ScumBuster yet but one day you will trip yourself up. Not that I need anything other than your willing support of proven of liars and supporters of scams, and self confessed trust abusers, and greedy sneaky sig spamming sock puppet trolls. I mean I have enough dirt on you.

The first part is laughable and pulled out of your ass.


Next

 I have no care for what anyone "thinks" who is supporting proven liars and trust abusers. I care what they can PROVE only. Their judgement is already called into question by overtly choosing to trust proven scum.

70% chance is

1. incorrect and likely 2%
2. not 100% so is speculation.

I would not use a puppet and never have used a puppet account.


So even considering your dumb shit calculations you pulled out of your ass. You do not get to call me a liar. You have zero proof. I will start calling suchmoon a liar and say that dumb bitch is ScumBuster then by your standards of evidence.

Let me reiterate this for the last time. I do not need sock puppets since

1. anyone can see a sock puppet is a SOCK PUPPET so reduces its credibility to next to zero because people will speculate it is you.
2. I prefer to keep all of my effort locked down to this account. When reflecting upon my past I feel winning battles alone against multiple scum bags have always been the most satisfying. Hence why I prefer tennis to team based sports.

Now shove your fake 70% up your ass. Speculation and false accusation and nothing more.

Now back to begging for merits and dreaming about becoming a REAL legend. Go trawl read my post histories that range from forcing 2 BILLION dollar airdrops from scammers with armies of scumbag supporters, to being quite plausibly responsible for keeping BTC as number 1 in market cap, on to  making paupers into millionaires, and being lauded for my works. Asked by super legends and super brains to help them fight scams.  Imagine you can some day become a REAL legend. Let me quickly calculate on your little point scale the chances of that ever happening......0%. Oh well, imagination can be a useful thing give it a try or just go full on fantasy as you have been.

70% chance of being a liar   - can you produce your calculations I want to check through those.

You have it the wrong way around. You GAIN credibility insulting proven liars and trust abusers and greedy sock puppet sig spammers and their supporters. You LOSE credibility by ass kissing them for merits and other favourable scraps.


I am ONLY insulting those that are PROVEN liars and those that support other PROVEN trust abusers and their ass lickers like you you. 100% chance of you being included in that bunch. ONLY when they start poking their nose in and attacking me first.
Start to get that now? don't make me out to be unreasonable and vicious to people for NO GOOD reason.

I wouldn't ever attack a person first. I simply do not believe in operating like that.

@suchmoon

You can dream, hope, pray, beg but since it never happened it is as realistic as dreaming about dating Bradley Cooper in your state.

Well yes indeed. Would it be a bad thing? Not imho, but there could be a debate and create a list of advantages/disadvantages
Perhaps all sigs should be confined to the speculations board? After all is not promoting an incomplete project based on some whitepaper dreams and talk your own speculation that that project is worth while. Perhaps gambling sig in the gambling sections?

I wish it could all go back to POW and ico's never turned up.

I mean with projects rising and falling huge % per day surely if you have a real interest in the area you will not have issue finding the REAL projects with the REAL devs that show some promise. Sigs are weak sauce if all you want is money. Just find the gems amongst the over hyped junk.

Actually locating devs and projects that are pushing to fill in the last pieces of the puzzle here is helping the entire movement here anyway.  The scams and hyped junk taking the chumps change away and not giving anything back is the second most damaging thing happening to this board. Scams or rather the dangerous scams are not always the obvious 2 bit scammers who run with a few btc. More damaging are seemingly credible and supported projects that show real promise and fool all but the most knowledgeable, that "almost" come through on their promises and hype ...... but then just fade away leaving everyone disheartened and out of pocket and leaving with a foul taste about crypto.

This is actually a valid point.

 I wish Theymos would give me demerit powers that I could wield at will and as extremely as I like so long as I could present a VERY  STRONG case for each and every single merit that I could remove. If I fail to present a strong case then my powers are taken away for good. I would have a field day here in meta.

Then again a lot of merit comes from the sig spammers here.

Still reducing incentive in any way  is a good first step. Things are often solved in steps not in one foul swoop.

Although the alts board is the most in need in terms of sheer numbers of blatant spammers, it is better to sort things from the top down where perhaps the very most dangerous and critical damage is done.

Well that is good news...then let him present his case and hear what Theymos says about it.

I think if you can prove to theymos you love the idea of crypto and will try your best to push this entire movement forward then he will spare your account or give you one more chance. Although don't make a long post because they are not glady received. Then again he is busy and has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders. So not much spare time.

I would advise Greg..... to not try to excuse the actions (some were not plagiarism but some look like they may be financially motivated) but just say i am sorry, it was a mistake, i will gladly forget having sigs, I will become a great member here and redeem myself. Then never do it again.

No, because my case is just 1 example of how this abuse can take place. I just outlined the implications for free speech. This is not just about myself. However my red trust is also admittedly a nice driving force to do the right thing. I am naturally a very lazy person so I need a lot of motivation anyway.

The systems MUST be altered if you do not want the systems of control to crush free speech. It really is that simple. Who decides if a person should be "heated" ??

Can someone be "heated" if they were called a liar 3x and the person would not present one example and then when you told the truth and can present evidence they are lying then you get red trust??  You are not allowed to be heated? but they are allowed to speak in a nasty tone to you first and out of blue screaming you are a liar and refusing to present any evidence.

Tman is nothing he is a symptom of a system that needs fixing nothing more. My red trust is nothing more than a symptom. You need to get to the root cause here.

I have no real issue using my case as an example of abuse because it is an extreme example and it serves nicely to highlight how broken the systems are and how week the constraints are for holding it to purpose.

@nutildah

I am hostile to proven scumbags and untrustworthy dirt + their overt supporters and ass lickers.
That makes me highly credible.


@quickseller...

Let me immediately draw your focus to the main points.

I don't suspect your garden variety sig spammers turn up to meta. I am not sure why you are suggesting this is my concern.

Let me try it this way.

If you have a lot of people with a shared and primary goal of ...let's say creating a forum that provides the optimal environment to grow and develop an end to end decentralised trustless arena. They all start discussing how to create this optimal environment (of course free speech is going to be a useful thing to have). Now you drop into the mix a greater number of persons  who's prime goal is their self enrichment, who don't really give too much of shit about the optimal environment to grow and develop an end to end decentralised trustless arena.

They care about creating an environment where they can make the most money and will be presenting suggestions, opinions and ideas to push their self enriching "POLICIES" that are implemented on that board. They are therefore diluting the collisions between the real enthusiasts and as their numbers and influence grows they then start to drown out the ideas of those real enthusiasts making their ideas seem dominant and therefore a great idea.

How many times do i hear this weight of numbers argument here... A lot.

Imagine there was a way to reduce the toxic self serving input by reducing their incentive to give "their" opinions and clutter threads and disrupt the discussions of real enthusiasts.

I mean if you are a real enthusiast you will still post in meta right? If you are a person just trying to spam and milk the board perhaps it will reduce your incentive to post here. You will need to post elsewhere to make your spam bucks and will increase the needed effort to spam elsewhere for bucks and post here to ensure your spam bucks roll in at optimal levels.

It is annoying that they can currently voice opinions to ensure top levels of assured spam bucks whilst getting those same spam bucks to fund their "suggestions and coaxing".

Spam for bucks  or voice opinions/ideas/suggestions that ensure you get to control ability to spam for bucks and your own top rates.

Not both at the same time. Get to the discussions board and battle it out with the other sig spammers until the real enthusiasts create sensible ways to control this unbridled greed.

I have more sympathy for real poor people trying to spam for a few bucks than i do those that are not needing it to feed their families but still want MORE money for contributing here. If these legends are still desperate to the level of needing to be paid to contribute they must be complete idiots. Why listen to idiots  or super greedy devious people.

If you still don't see any merit to my suggestion then tell me why not.

All legends should just be given the opportunity to lose their sigs for a few years rather than perm ban.

If you have been here 5 years like the OP this is not an late 2017er turned up for a quick bot spam session.

This person is observably part of lots of alt communities or has been.

All legends that are not extreme financially motivated shit posters and have not been part of any communities or contributed fuck all... should just be auto sig banned for couple of years with a note of final and last warning. Next time perm ban.

It all seems annoying until you are an honest member fighting REAL scams for years that were promoted by the same liars, scumbags and their pals that get the powers to flag your account as a scammer because you simply would not tolerate more lies and bullshit accusations from them and simply said if they did not stop you will encourage others to review their past histories. Sorry it's annoying.

But then again what upsets you exactly about this thread? what is annoying about the OP. Point it out and we will discuss it.

However, the fact you are not being paid for posting here is  at least demonstrating you are an enthusiast for meta even if you are not such an enthusiast for truth, honesty and justice and wish people to shhhh up changing things that will prevent such future abuse.


Who said I did not like this forum? I love this forum and the free speech that has been afforded persons here for many years must not be crushed now by certain persons gaming and abusing the systems of control.

This is all possibly true. But how many sigs are there of that type  compared to sigs for spamming anything to make the most money as possible

"Forum policy" -- EXACTLY

1. sig spammers specifically those spamming sigs that are not support of a legit and promising project that could benefit crypto  are doing so for selfish financial gain.
2. better to have posters that are posting because they are enthusiasts and have the interests of the board and the movement here rather than the self interest of pushing for actions that will enrich them.

Why would you wish for a board diluted by those observably only interested in self enrichment having influence over board policies? Perhaps far better to weed out those that are pushing for policies that will serve their own selfish self interest and listen to a more concentrated pool of those that are REAL enthusiasts for this movement -- whom are far more likely of course to push for policies that are beneficial for the board as a whole and create an environment where people are given fair and equal treatment and free speech is not crushed down.

There can be zero argument that free speech is vulnerable as things are and that is mainly due to policies that have empowerd control systems that slot in under admin and get to control PAID2POST and trading and also a persons reputation in general.

You want to speak out against anything here that DT's or merit sources OR their pals have done that seems incorrect, unfair or scammy?? Then you will certainly have to accept that you will be getting some red pain as soon as they can dream up an excuse. You can be sure you will not get merit for your merit worthy posts or the merit will be deleted. You will not be trading with people unless they are willing to risk trading with an account screaming this is a scammer. You will also either be prevented from PAID2POST entirely or will never rank up to be included in an "exclusive highly paid sig campaign"  so your free speech will come at high risk to your account or certain destruction of it.

NO it is not correct you imbecile.

Please read the OP correctly again.

Are you completely stupid ? Yutucoin didnt even happen as far as I know. You think i chose that project to make money?

that was to support bruno (who I nominated for bct best personality and he won beating out even that weasel suchmoron) that is his project.

I think I wore it for many many months and it never even took place. Well as far as I know perhaps it did. I was not booted off, It would still be there now because I likely could not have been bothered to change it. I removed it to place the truth links that are there now.

So spread those lies elsewhere noob sig spamming trash. Probably a DT and Merit source if I dug into it.

This is what I mean. You just got some bozo to pay your spamming ass to proliferate MORE negative and incorrect garbage on this forum.

Remove your sig and post your crap for free. Even then you should be made to pay to even post this junk.

@ vile vixen - huge black woman is not a sig spammer you say?

all posts you merit are merit worthy you say?

would you like me to open a thread to examine these claims?

Also how come you have SO MUCH merit to throw to unmerit worthy political junk?

I said a debate. Bring it here chicken.

Shield your eyes from sig spam with the ignore button.... LOL so you just merit your sig spamming pals whilst not reading their posts. Actually that could explain A LOT.  I mean when I noticed you sent merit to like 10 pharmacist posts all on different threads with just a few seconds between each bunch of merit spew then if not time travel as you suggested but just going to their post histories, not even reading them and just hitting merit would explain it.

I say that not only am I not a spammer. I say you splatter the MOST politically motivated merit for absolute trash posts on this entire board. I will debate either of those 2 things with you. I say it looks plausible you have many alts or are just a crazy merit splashing fool and have no business being a merit source.

I will also debate the pros and cons of allowing the current sig spamming on meta board. The prior 2 in another thread. Or perhaps the spammer accusation briefly here because bringing important messages to that focus attention to critical issues here that if fixed will provide an observably fairer and more equal system for all and remove the jack boot from the throat of free speech can only be termed as spam by those that are fighting to keep the jack boot in place and game the systems for their high paid sig spamming pals or alts. That would indeed explain this fear of removing the sigs here.
Okay okay vile vixen it is.

I was hoping to keep this on topic or have the local rules force some credible claims to be made, but of course local rules don't mean anything except if the "gang" has local rules.

Hurry up fox pup I want to dispense with you and get back to on topic relevant posts.