I think the next rank after Legendary should be Newbie and the cycle starts over again. You can think of it as reincarnation or whatever your religion calls for.
First sensible suggestion from such moon. Where are his merits give them to him now. |
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I actually hate this forum a lot, its like a gang of mafia giving each other favors and its also like a group of teenage girls gossiping about how gets negative trust plus other bullshit like this.
Lot of these people get off on their "power" of having merit or being able to red mark someone, this shit is so ridiculous and most of you spend too much time on this forum, especially the paid signature spammers. Probably can't even make money outside this forum so you resort to posting.
So leave then, Mr. Whiney Pants....  No you leave we are better here without those abusing trust and implicated in extortion schemes ...bye bye Take jetcash he has provably demonstrated that he is too scared to do the right thing and actually has double standards regarding hating sig spammers but supporting the pharmacist who is a proven devious sock puppet racist trolling sig spammer. this kind of person can not be on the trust system either. Want proof ask I will present the facts. |
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Report them to moderator and write in comments "they are trolling me and said that I am thule, cryptohunter or quickseller". Include links to these posts: Dumb ,Dumber ,Suchmoon
dumb ,dumber ,suchmoon LOL
Also this: Vod is another bitch who abused the system in favour of that scamming group.
Additionaly he is a dumb person.
You are even to dumb [...]
Your are to stupid [...]
thepharmacist aka racist bitch
This pathetic underhuman
You are either cryptohunter, Thule or alt account of mentally unstable person, and this is not trolling, this is my honest opinion. Well sorry but you are not best qualified to decide on this. You said I was crazy - I told you find me one false claim i have made. You ran away. So of course we can probably disregard your claims to differentiate between presentation of facts and someone whom is crazy. |
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I support the idea that there should always be prospects for grows because there are too many "Legendaries" on the forum.  ~ Or to lock all accounts which have more than 2 years of inactivity.
I don't think is a good idea, what if I will come back after 2 years? ~ Accounts could be unlocked when members can prove ownership of the profile with the signed Bitcoin address. After long period of inactivity there is a risk that accounts will pass to hackers/spammers, etc. Please understand a subjective and broken nonsense score which suchmoon calls "meaningless" is of course something that can not be given any meaning? It should be decoupled from rank after snr and removed from anything other than a minor role in DT To gain a greater understanding of it read here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0 |
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Keep defending.But if you don't accept him you can tagg the other hundred accounts which are using the same word as my alts.
What are you waiting for ?
You're confused. You've been tagged for being an alt of Thule, not for using a certain word. There was a lot more than just one word that led to it and even more surfaced afterwards. So you can try to deflect all you want but unless you can show me another user who... - Misspells words the same way as you do. And I mean "words" not "word". - Puts spaces around punctuation the same way you do. - Formats paragraphs the same way you do. - Has a grudge against the same users. ...you're not getting anywhere. New and edited posts don't count - I feel like I need to mention this given your tenuous relationship with the truth. And I mean ALL OF THE ABOVE. The totality of it makes you an alt of Thule. NOT proof. You have proof of lies, trust abuse and sig spamming racist sock puppet trolls and you have not red trusted any of those. Actually you support them on DT so sorry that is clear evidence you are not trustworthy and your judgement for red trust is broken. Double standards as I have demonstrated before. |
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However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).
Here. I highlighted the important part for you to understand. you mean like cryptohunter? when ban ? Yes they tman is a habitual shit poster and self confessed trust abuser. Are you trying to say that he is not? |
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HA HA funny how the poll went from 9:1 we need a guideline after the whole night now so quickly to 9:10 .
Would love to see the names who voted so quickly at the same time.
To the honest DT members now you see the gang at its work trying to protect the sick status quo
hence why transparent polls are required. You know it is the corrupt scum on DT that are voting they should have no limits imposed on their free reign to red trust for any reason they like. |
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Have you seen how many high ranked accounts they have destroyed once somebody raised his voice against them ?
Which one? Go to rep and have a look around plenty of older legends than you with far greater achievements. Me for one. Who are these proven liars, scam supporters, implicated in extortion schemes gremlins to leave me red trust by their own admission for stating facts about their past. Disgraceful and the opposite of what dt is meant for. There are many other people in rep that are legends complaining of unfair red trust when their "crimes" are totally unrelated to scamming in any shape or form. Then you have people that are proven liars, proven trust abusers and proven sock puppet racists trolling sig spammers giving this red trust out. These are proven and clearly observable facts. |
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Also the biggest issue is the subjectivity there allows it to stifle free speech
Subjectivity is protected by free speech. People are free to form their own opinions and either trust or distrust you accordingly. Nothing is being stifled. LOL that makes zero sense. Imagine a police state with no mandate or rules/criteria on how they operate. Can you imagine how free your speech would be under such a system? You can not have people who stand to benefit selfishly from a control system being part of that system with no rules to govern their actions. Subjectivity there is the same as saying you trust people to not act selfishly and apply rules fairly to all persons. Please be sensible. Go here and continue this debate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0 |
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-snip- I completely agree with your points regarding teaching people to do their own due diligence, and yes, some noobs will get scammed regardless of how much you try to warn them. There is no helping some people. However, I completely disagree with your point that because we can never tag 100% of scammers, we should therefore not tag any scammers. It's like saying because seatbelts don't save 100% of lives, we should stop wearing them - all they do is give people a veil of safety, which in turn encourages them to drive more dangerously. I just don't agree. Yes, some scammers will get away with it, but we shouldn't be using that as justification to just let the scammers roam freely. Sadly though that is not the complete set of factors that need to be considered. The system also brings a lot of other negatives like destroying peoples accounts that can prove they should not have had them destroyed. Also the biggest issue is the subjectivity there allows it to stifle free speech. So you can therefore see the negatives currently outweigh the positives. The entire picture needs to be considered here. |
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Since you don't want other person to get involved then you would have just saved us the drama and private messaged him
Whoops proves you read the local rules. You can now be temp banned apparently. Same as loycev and suchmoon yesterday. So keep your big nose out and understand what transparency is and why it is a good thing for the community. Drama = transparent explanations and dealing with serious Trust related issues. Stop lurking around meta hoping for some merit scraps .... looks like you got a scrap .... well done. Noobs lol |
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Not bad idea but I don't think theymos will do it. There are few post from old DT and some others about guidelines. But it's not officially approved. If any guidelines by theymos means its official guidelines. It would be better for new DT. But problem is peopels even don't bother to follow forum rules so we can't expect that peopels will follow the guidelines. And argument will never end even there is guidelines. People's never bother about DT system before get tag. After getting tag they start war with DT system. If any DT make mistake it should bring front before tag you. If I have made mistake then make sound now but after get tag making sound which is equal to war with DT. I don't think it will never end ....
They will follow them or they will get blacklisted from dt and merit source We need people in positions of trust that are squeaky clean and no prior evidence of scams, lying, greed, double standards.... they should be blacklisted by default. Imagine known convicted felons applying for police positions and getting it. Then telling others they don't want any rules as to how they act. LOL |
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OP why not use your main account? Everyone free to share his opinions here. If you are on right way then why DT will tag you without any reason? Its seems you have created this account for fight with DT. You are self admitted that you are a alt of someone. Why really want to hide yourself? Are you worry about tag? If I say you are trying to make gang against DT member I don't think I will be wrong. If you are right then come on with your original account.
Not your call. He has explained he does not want trust abuse to ruin his main account. The sad state of DT has forced him to post under a sock puppet. |
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LOCAL RULES ONLY HILARIOUS AND CO SHOULD POST HERE. -
I am looking for a sensible discussion with hilariousandco not any body else. So do not post here unless you are hilarious and co.
As a moderator and part of the admin
1. why are you supporting on DT a proven liar such as lauda, that is also implicated in an extortion scheme, and shady escrow practises and trust abuse?
2. Why are you supporting on Dt a member that has been found guilty and is therefore a proven sock puppet racist shilling sig spammer that demonstrated extreme greed and devious behaviour?
3. Deleting my facts and observable events relating to these things that are on topic and relevant just because Tman a self confessed abuser of the trust system also implicated in an extortion scheme says they should be deleted? on his self imposed thread rules to prevent facts and observable events that are relevant being presented
If you have done any of this by mistake and would like to have me provide evidence now for any claims I am making here now or you were not the mod to remove my posts please let me know.
I am very interested in your reasoning behind number 1 and 2 specifically.
Why is lauda and tman seemingly in cahoots with admin and have information that I will be temp banned and warned are they privy now to admin level decisions?
I am tired of having my on topic relevant facts and observable events deleted and Tman gloating hinting he "knows" I am to be banned and warned for PRESENTING ON TOPIC FACTS AND OBSERVABLE EVENTS. Also he gets seemingly no punishment for admitting red trust abuse given he admits for presenting facts about lies and scams.
If you want presentation of evidence to substantiate any part of my post then ask and I will provide.
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No one forces you to be a DT member and tagg people without having time to check if the claims are valid according to you.
You have no time for it then just stop.Easy as that How do you "stop" being a DT member? He can request people stop including him He can requests theymos black list him He can include some people that provide facts and observable events the gang does not want presented. |
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some picture a retard imagines is amusing I notice lots of your posts & threads have been removed - have you had a warning yet? DT is really none of your business - checking your exclusions the whole forum would need to include you now for you to stand half a chance This is of no interest to me I have no desire to be a DT. Which threads have been removed? seems like you are trying to derail this thread. |
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The community can't be trusted.Sounds like the community is your enemy.
No - I love the community, but I hate those who try to destroy it because of their limitations or greed. Thats why you look away of known scammers and allow false tagging.Seems plausible I agree the DT members over exceeded their actions acting like babysitters making taking members will to decide themself all in the name of protection. I even saw 2 people being red tagged for making a deal both agreed on just because it was a paypal exchange deal. I mean why are you punks to decide for me if i'm allowed to make with somebody an exchange or not ?Its none of your business what kind of risk i take. You are acting worse than any plan business. Jetcash is a proven liar here or at best pure double standards that are disgraceful. Why? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231If he really hates shit posting greedy sig spammers then why on DT does he support a PROVEN sock puppet racist trolling sig spammer the pharmacist aka huge black woman - I mean read the greed of that individual. He got busted complaining he wanted more money from his sig on his second account that is just a trolling racist sig spammer for extra btc dust. So why is he supporting him on DT? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtviewThis is proven FACT - observable by any person here. His obvious double standards are there to clearly observe for all. These DT members are clearly and observably acting in untrustworthy ways. Double standards where it suits them are the thin end of this wedge. This is justs presentation of FACTS and observable events. They blast out red trust for anything that suits them including daring to speak out about their PROVEN lying and trust abuse. The entire thing is a joke. Let's face it though most are quite obviously low functioning. Try to have a debate with any of them bar perhaps 1 or 2 and you soon realise these are either complete imbeciles or worse. I suggest this poll is made transparent by starting again and people have to post which way they vote and why. You will soon see it is the system controllers themselves voting for maintaining their position of being able to red trust for their own personal reason and not for the good of the board at all. Merit is the main issue here it needs to have criteria just like the trust system and earned merit should be reset to zero or some filter that cuts out the cycled merit to a sensible % - decoupled from rank after snr A transparent poll is required here. No point asking people in power if they should have rules as how to wield it. The very notion is ludicrous. |
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That user is clearly referring to the OP and not using "negativ" as a synonym for "negative". Context matters. And you used many more misspelled words and other oddities, the combination of which yields exactly one match: Thule. So good luck finding someone else who posts like that. This is an adhominem attack and diverts from the central point of this thread. It is also not a proven fact. You yourself have no consideration for even proven facts demonstrating wrongdoing and untrustworthy deeds so don't start freaking out on a hunch. |
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There is a discussion about guidelines already here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099391.msg49306851#msg49306851There are quite a few situations where the outcome is clear but some of the subjective situations require some discussion. I think it could work well as a charter - where DTs agree to the values that they believe in. A bit like with the UN where a country agrees to be a signatory to articles but may not be a signatory to all of them. I think there are plenty of situations where everyone agrees on the outcome. The subjective situations are also able to be discussed so there is understanding. Yeah got the point.I already mentioned here on the thread that theymos can discuss with our respectful DT members what can be included or not. I think thats the way how we can pick the best solution. Its really a matter of shame when a newbie user see some post including bad languages which is nothing but to blame on DTs. As a newbie i also faced same and feel so bad when i respect someone for his work of excellency. It doesn't matter he is on the DT list or not but it matters when someone use ugly words and blame on someone who achieved a lot of merits and fame not just in one night. Anyone can trace how much time we wasted just for those Tagged argumental issues. Tons of comments to handle those guys thread where most of the thread got nothing but personal emotions. I think its meaningless. On the other hand if any DT tag some one without any valid reason that is nothing but a disaster for that convicted person. Every single member of the forum bear same weight and respects. Just a guideline from theymos can solve it nicely. This is why facts and observable events are the only things that should be considered. Also misplace admiration is quite revolting try not to fawn over people who if are the targets of some emotion accompanied by facts and observable events demonstrating their wrongdoing are not worthy of such adoration. Facts and observable events demonstrating wrong doing are not to be ignored regardless of the persons anger at being the victim of such abuse. Is there a part of that you do not understand? Please tell me clearly who are these respected members you admire so much. Perhaps a newbie like yourself needs to first do some homework. Let me help you. There needs to be clear criteria so that everyone can be treated fairly and the same. |
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LOL okay well as a DT member I am sorry if clear evidence of another DT being a liar is outside of your interests.
I think that the fact that there is a diversity of interests in the ranks of the default trust members is evidence that it is decentralised. If you can't find anyone in the midst of this diversity who is prepared to espouse your cause, then you should realise that the community assigns little perceived value to it. You need some catchy slogans. Could I suggest "Speak clearer, not Lauda". "Improve your drive with TMAN". " For pain free posting - read The Pharmacist", " Vod - your V8 posting God". etc. Sorry the common interest of DT should be trust . The fact you are not interested in proven untrustworthy behaviour is telling. No way out of it. The clue was in the title. |
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