Should there not be some other differences?

This is incorrect.

As I have proven many times.

Well, you could argue it is a real reason but not a valid reason if you want the trust score to mean anything.

What if I started red trusting people because they refused to scam people? You can see it may be a "real" reason but this is not a valid reason is it? Then I gave green trust to scammers because they did scam. It is a real reason but again not a valid reason in terms of red trust mean to be for untrustworthy and green trust trust worthy.

Same as if i started to red trust people who alerted others to wrong doing. This is the opposite of what the trust system is there for.

Now when the entire list of DT condones this then yes you can start to reason there is some kind of system in place that allows this behaviour that needs to be looked at and restrictions put in place if you want the trust scores to actually help in avoiding persons that may scam you.

@foxpup

i guess it makes no real difference it is all one small circle ... sweet or savoury ... then again both of those are likely to be savoury. Better start with those 2 then finish with your  fav  Huge Black Woman aka the pharmacist.

What is more annoying is noob trash like you debasing yourself in public kissing ass 24/7 for some merit scraps you dullard. Sickening little dirt bag. Please stick to collecting your btc dust for spamming your sig everywhere else.

Perhaps you should do something more important like

1. examine the red trust give and the reasons for that red trust
2. examine laudas history and they types of things it is implicated in
3. examine the pharmacists double standards on shit posting and trolling whilst he sets up a sock puppet to racist troll sig spam under then is so dumb he gets busted.
4. examine such moons ludicrous statements including
"most merit legends are spammers"
"that it is idiotic and incorrect that some of the 99.87% of this board are capable of making some posts as good or better than some posts of the 0.13% of the board (top 200 merit cyclers)

want more content hit me up.

get to the root of the problem

I say this quite a strange bunch of assumptions from you qwk who is known to be a very intelligent person.

1. perhaps he would like to give the impression he really has lost his btc as to not be such a target. This would be my first move if I had a TON of btc stashed away but wanted to use my vip account.


2. this is just assumption... just because he is a nerd does not mean that catastrophe can not strike or you get lazy about things.

3. he did care a lot about his forum id and paid a not insubstantial amount for his account out what he had. Which even then did not matter too much. If you had 500bucks worth or btc (back then) you may well decide to spend even 50% of that if you wished for a vanity title and to support the board. Perhaps he really is generous too.

Too many assumptions, too much unknown. Along with the new evidence of Salty Spittoon (which was actually a nice surprise for me because I had assumed incorrectly perhaps he was not as fair a person as I had hoped that he could be) I say it is now more likely than not he is the original owner.


The probability of him noticing these weird capitalisations of letters in strange places but that seem to follow some kind of internally derived rules he has far far out weighs this other conjecture and assumption that if you are smart you are not lazy, if you have spent 50 btc years ago on a membership (when it was not worth much at all) you must have a ton more now or access to a ton more now.

Your arguments seems completely weird. I mean if you suggest on the one hand that he is super smart so must have a ton of back ups ..but then suggest that he must have missed the possibility of simply taking his usb key to get it fixed and that he could gain access to millions of dollars before you introduced the brilliant but complex course of action.


Let us be sensible and reduce to neutral the red tag.

Also would you mind returning to the DT thread in meta because there I have provided further details of the circumstances and goals of the particular lie that you were asking about (it was sadly nothing like the girl in the dress example you speculated it may be)...remember we were debating there as to whether you would consider that type of liar to be a valid and sensible selection for DT. Sorry to go off topic but then again it is all related to DT and red trust I guess.

Moderators support proven shit posters on DT   so that may not work.

what can be done? I asked him flat out for explanation of this I got .....................................silence.

Let me furnish you with some possible explanations that you are obviously are unable to conceive of by yourself. Perhaps you are not a native speaker of English. Perhaps he is not saying bitcoin itself will cease to function but rather adoption of bitcoin may be damaged if people start to relate the community surrounding to to a corrupt regime.

Now imagine you hear about bitcoin. So you run a google search and find a forum that is related to bitcoin.

Next you read an interesting thought provoking  post but notice this glowing red message next to the posters name telling you that you need to treat them with extreme caution.


So you decide to research why that is.

Then you discover this person is apparently untrustworthy and requires extreme caution before dealing with them ...because they told the truth about another person telling a lie. You feel that is a bit strange. That is kind of the other way around in the real world based on your experiences.

Then you discover the person that gave them red trust for telling the truth was actually the proven liar and his 2 friends that were implicated in an extortion scheme and other dark and shady dealings.

Then you go to meta and see a bunch of other people (apparently trust system controllers) all supporting these actions and that liars are now in positions of trust and people that tell the truth are untrustworthy.

You then think fuck this shit I am out of here. Let's forget about that for now. Sounds fucked up to me.

Do you start to see?

@ fox poop

You are always confused hence why you should never be a merit source. They are the same gang now since merit cyclers with 250 cycled merits are the key positions in the trust system. For some unknown reason the more trust you are proven to cycle the more trustworthy you become.

We can certainly win. Never give up.

As the number of abused increases then a union can be formed.

We can push for an entire change of the system that permits and even enforces this abuse of honest members.


1. find the threads they post in.
2. present only on topic and relevant facts demonstrating their untrustworthy natures and provide evidence to invalidate their future abuse of others.

There are going to be more abused than abusers.

This must continue until the system itself is altered and criteria given that eliminates this subjective and selfishly motivated abuse of honest members.

This is just the start. Abusers will not stop abusing until it is taken out of their control.

We must be careful of .

1. real scammers and untrustworthy must never join our union and that we NEVER defend their actions.
2. we stick only to presentation of facts and observable events that are relevant and on topic.
3. We do not just think of ourselves. We will not permit abuse of any honest person here. We will speak up and defend this abuse where it is clear abuse is taking place.
4. Not giving up or giving into to their  threats and gang tactics.

This union should have one clear mandate.

Ensure that the same fair and honest treatment is applied to ALL members of this board.

Also the pharmacist is a proven shit poster but he creates sock puppets to racist troll sig spam under then gets caught out LOL

Talk about double standards

Huge Black Woman is a proven alt of the pharmacist.

Read all about him here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096914.0

Some how though a PROVEN sneaky devious greedy trolling racist sock puppet sig spammer is on DT and a merit source.

Watch the gang swarm in...... zooom  haha pathetic

Wrong, the systems of control allow this kind of abuse to take place. It is the systems that need analysing and fixing so that everyone is treated equally and fairly. Meta is the place for that.

Nothing else constructive? oh really?? you arguing for unfair and unjust actions to be allowed within a system of trust is constructive?? lol

Isolate the part or parts of my post you have issue with or that you claim make me look insane and I will debate them with you.

Calling persons insane for presenting the truth or highlighting wrongdoing is a common defense in meta. Sorry but that does not work.

I challenge you now to go back to my post and bring here the parts of it that you consider indicate some trolling or signs of insanity because all I see is a person calling you out for supporting the red trusting of persons whom dare to present facts illustrating wrong doing by DT members .

I await your response.

No more bullshit from people like you. Point now to the exact parts of my post that are incorrect. Let's see.

edit--- time passes...

nutildah?... nutildah?? where are you nutildah???  must be with Moglie somewhere.

edit 2 more time passes...

Is nutildah okay?  anyone seen nutildah? ... I am concerned about him now for real.

Well there are 3 options

1. you are fully retarded
2. you are ass kissing for merits
3. you do not see my open challenge to lauda to debate with me one on one and this scared coward refuses. Which I have made several times before but still it hides away from me.


If you see this and feel you video is at all representational of how things REALLY are then you are full on stupid or just ass kissing for merits.

Please see try to comprehend the stupidity of what you are saying in relation to a score based trust system, and what a corrupt and devious disgusting snake you look like by suggesting it is okay to red trust someone for telling the truth and presenting fact regarding wrongdoing.

DT scores mean absolutely nothing at all if people are getting red trust for highlighting proven wrong doing. Imagine if everyone did this then red trust would be a positive thing in some cases. The entire scoring would be a total waste of time. LOL

WARNING TRADE WITH EXTREME CAUTION THIS PERSON TRIED TO INFORM ON A PROVEN LIAR/SCAMMERS.

haha the wonderful world of meta...

There is no point having a score if some people red for untrustworthy deeds and some red for trust worthy deeds.

Just have a link called feedback and people can decide for themselves is the person who is proven to have lied for financial gain is more trustworthy than someone who high lighted that FACT.

No get back to supporting liars and scammers with some other new variation of ass kissing.

You can not use the red trust to silence people telling the truth and about liars and scammers. Please don't suggest such ludicrous things in public it makes you look completely corrupt.

I would say if anything we should look at the distinct possibility your account is hacked. No chance any person supporting bruno previously would start supporting scammers and liars that ~ bruno. I think people should analyse your account for being hacked or sold snake boy.

Ha yes still around supporting this project.

Still hopeful for blocknet, thanks for keeping this thread updated with news

s therapist is this you again??  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.0

Stop sig spamming whilst casting your groundless assumptions in my direction. I barely drink alcohol on Saturday mornings.

Now if you would like to debate the validity of my post do so. Isolate the parts you have issue with and we can debate it.

I have no hate. I have contempt for scammers, liars, and sock puppet sig spamming scumbags.

Now get back to asskissing for merits whilst I get back to presenting facts.

@jackg

It is not my problem that you can not concentrate for longer than 2 seconds and have reading difficulties. Get your mommy to read them to you at bedtime when she brings your milk and cookies down to the basement.

Look don't pretend I did not already say this to your face in meta it's not like I am talking shit about you behind your back. I am not at all happy to see someone who was a keen supporter of bruno who highlighted and fought HUGE SCAMS not these little pesky scammers that just pop back up next day under new accounts. Who now turns to the total dark side and support liars that red trust people for telling the truth about them and who ~ bruno himself I notice.

You can not support proven liars and trust abusers on one hand (whom themselves ~ BRUNO) and support Bruno at the same time.

Anyway do as you wish, I understand it takes a lot of courage to do the right thing.

Put the video camera down and stop ass kissing for merits

I have challenged this pussy (cat) lauda to a one on one debate with me in meta regarding my red trust. I will throw in the opportunity to clear up the other secret agent stuff and the escrow debacle also after I get done with bitch slapping your cowardly ass around with hard facts from your past.  

I used to feel sorry for you Lauda when anonymint was bitch slapping you around over and over making you whine and cry for him to be banned. Not any longer.

Make the video accurate - that pussy is hiding away and will not even dare come and face me in meta.

I will start the thread RIGHT NOW if that lying trust abusing scum bag will come there and face me.

YES OR NO lauda ...

LOL at that video.  Just another demonstration of merit abuse. Meriting false and misleading nonsense.

Yes or NO lauda.....  come on you big wussy . I will start the thread right now just you and me.

What's the betting he will not show??

Let's see this hero in action. All I see is a lying coward.

I don't want to hear from any of the other slobbering ass kissing wretches here, just you LaudaM.

Lauda?? .... Lauda??  where are you Lauda??

I say though this lie is one that is financially motivated so the circumstances and goal are not trustworthy at all. I mean surely a person willing to tell a lie and stick to that even when challenged purely for financial gain is quite wrong? and not fitting with being on DT where protecting persons against scammers  (liars for financial gain) is critical?

This proven liar then show up on my threads 3x calling me a liar with no evidence even when challenged. Then red trusts me for telling the truth about him being a liar and encouraging others to view the evidence that supported my claim.

This is completely the opposite for what DT was designed for.

DT can not red trust people for telling the truth and encouraging others to view the evidence to support their claim. The very notion of using red trust this way is disgraceful and although I can tell you have a good mind for presenting a case for anything there is no way for this to be justified.

I would hear your thoughts on the entire matter. This is not at all the same circumstances and accomplishment as your example.

"Absolutely not", is not applicable in this specific case. Unless you agree with the actions of this person.

This is not a grey area like accounts being sold this is totally wrong and against the very principles that DT is supposed to represent.

The trust list does nothing. It is crammed with people with people who are PROVEN untrustworthy.
The trust system is now just an add on to the merit system which is just a system that allows you to give merits to your pals so they can be on the trust system with you.

Blatant abuse will not go unnoticed because I have brought it to the attention of DT members who are too scared to even witness a blatant lie in black and white and admit it is a lie. So it it appears that DT members will not red trust liars but for some reason will red trust people they believe "could" have gained control of another account.

How about you qwk will you witness evidence of a DT member blatantly lying and if you agree with me it was a lie will you red trust them and remove them from your inclusions. Yes or No?

Or will you willingly support a proven liar into a position of trust on this board. Yes or no?