Aside from spreading around subjectivity to those that are already demonstrating they are hoarding inside the 0.13% hoping for improvement... and aside from the fact you are found to be supporting the circle at most opportunities I am not shocked they gave you some rewards I'll see you gave them some back too. I mean here you are now trying to bolster their nonsense with yet more stupid nonsense that I just revealed in 1 second but others may fall for hence why I called for the minimum of the top 300 to be removed along with meta board. You are adding weight to my argument that the top 0.13% not only benefit from their own cycling of merit ... they also gain merit from merit seeking ass kissers who hang out in meta and give them some back. I mean you are actually proving my point more than you realise.

However my main concern is those that have not sussed out to kiss ass nonsense and obvious broken logic theories in meta to sidle into the club eventually.

Let's get to this part I have left.

What are you trying to say exactly? be clear because what I am reading is totally and provably incorrect about me being anti spam reduction. Produce something more concrete than because I want legends to have a fair review.

Try not to take forever to reply I see these people sitting there online trying to think of their next excuse or support for a bunch of people not ready to accept they are mediocre posters incapable of anything of real note but are having fun all aligning and agreeing with each other in meta regarding how great their posts are and how to analyse merit best to make them look better or more credible.

LOL else I out your previous and quite likely current shady practices.

WOW what a threat I help prevent people getting scammed by you. Why do you consider this a threat if you will be vindicated.

Sorry for mentioning you're a scam pusher/probable current scammer ............my true colours hey

TP is one of your ass lickers supporting bullshit like you keeping 3000bch apparently ... I cant take his moral compass seriously being a former scam lover of dash either. Even if is not true ( i have not looked into it) the fact that he thinks it is fine if it did happen even though the investors did not come off well over all of this is an example of his reasoning. I mean if I have got this wrong and we need a thread opened on it to examine the facts and help me get it all straight before commenting further on the entire episode let me know.

I mean perhaps this is all smoke without fire. So a thorough investigation of your prior history could be put under scrutiny to ensure I have not got you all wrong perhaps you are just a prior scam promoter and not a current scammer.

Pseudo logic - lol. Come on Lauda that's like saying you're a pseudo scammer/scam pusher with pseudo red trust and psuedo ass kick  from any position of trust or influence (except over TP).

LaudaM lol - nobody listens to scammers and scam promoters like you.

Nobody would invite you to dinner without chaining the silverware down.

Horrible opinions? Sorry Dash promoter your opinions have been proven horrible since the start. How are you even still allowed on this forum with all your red trust.

Read his early posts whilst promoting Dash scam. He/it was always swearing and trying to bully people around. Now butter would not melt in its mouth now apparently.

Then turns 180 once he dumps his dash scam coins saying it is a scam after all. Never trust this scammer.

Turn coats and scammers are not to be trusted so remain silent.

Give this fool more red trust if you are genuine about saving people from getting scammed.  

No wonder you were removed from any place of responsibility and trust. So remain silent snake tongue. Else I bring a big thread examining you in depth you in in full detail. Get back under your rock.

@loyce (he can't see me anyway)

I only have to hear

"Looking at it the wrong way"

"bending the facts"

to realise this is another attempt to claim high merit user = higher quality poster than low merit user

Even suchmoon has now confirmed without definition of a good post or good poster then the score is meaningless. Loyce is a little slower than suchmoon... sometimes in a good way (according to fox pup)

There is no incorrect way to look at the 0.13% lose 80% or greater of their merits if you simply remove the opinions of the same 0.13% the fact or not they are merit sources with most to give  then that is an result of the system and how it is set up and not an excuse to claim that still representing better posts get more merit than less good posts. However, as I have said there is no issue so long as you do not make silly claims about what the numbers mean.

That is simply numbers... that are not bending fact, not looking at the numbers upside down.

It is quite obvious more collisions, in a smaller board or boards (not the main discussion boards which you would think are the main boards on this forum) between people with more merit to give to each other for posts they align with are going to cycle merits around until there are some crazy even more meaningless scores.

I mean I am sure loyce wants you to believe he is the 3rd most valuable poster after theymos and satoshi on this board. That is obviously insane since he makes simple logical mistakes which I have brought him up on on time and time again without and reply from him about them. So by that measure the rest of the board are only incapable of making posts with even greater errors and even less valuable due to being illogical . I do not believe if I was talking to people of GM, VB, DZ theymos any critical thinkers that I would be finding huge holes in their statments and remarks . I am sorry but high merit rating does not equal higher value of posts generated than that of lower merit rating users. There are those with far lower merit than myself whom I know would not be making such strange logical errors during a debate. Same for suchmoon and most others that are arguing about all of this. (not all)

I have said this does not mean though that top scoring merit holders are bad posters either or worse than lower scoring merit holders. The only way one could know for sure was if every single post made here was matched agains the same comprehensive criteria for being good or having value. That is as of now impossible. So be satisfied that you are a popular poster.... at least within the 0.13%.

Stop going on and on about it and even following me here to this post (about me apparently) and keeping the topic going after I have said I am satisfied that all possible argument has been explored several times. It's like complaining there is a fire and then continually pouring on more fuel and throwing in a few gas bottles now and then.

I mean loyce should be grateful he got to re post data which I had already requested and presented several times from r1s2g3 and get over 20+ merits for it from his merit pals. What is there to moan about.

Well always room for one more right?

Suchmoon showed me that PM where you said to him you are sworn to a life of celibacy. I mean I know we all tell him that but still to admit this in public is going to be very upsetting for him.

Please edit before he sees it. The Pharmacist told me he has to cut off suchmoons credit line lately ...something about merits getting more expensive. This could get serious.

Thanks for your help. See we make quite a team.

@mprep - thanks for help too.

Can you provide a post at all where I sound mad at you.  I am laughing with you and your excuses. Just ask tp out on a date and get it over. I mean he is not obviously falling for this merit courtship even after the vulpine is dangled I bet you won't even get an xmas card let and don't hold your breath until valentines day.... I mean suchmoon will send us all one as usual ... it's a numbers game for him as I have said all along.

I can't work out which are more ludicrous your excuses or suchmoons assumptions and logical fails that he makes time and time again.

Fun discussing things with you both though for sure.

Stop worrying so much about it all and creating more and more threads about it even though I have said I consider the case closed several times. Then telling me I am continuing to proliferate threads about this topic. Typical example of suchmoon madness.

Surely there is more to you than your self inflated subjective merit scores. Try to think about something else I have demonstrated with suchmoons assistance they are meaningless now so let's discuss some other interesting topics. I think this is the 5th time I have stated this so that probably means suchmoon or loyce will create another thread about it and tell me I am proliferating merit analysis in some biased raw data form.

LOL derail them with a suitable explanation of what I was accused of in the OP.

Your logic never fails to amaze me

I think you have demonstrated you have lost this argument on many levels since you started defending your position that you are a good poster simply because you have a high merit score. I mean I could list all of the logical fails you have demonstrated so far and the ludicrous statements you have made but I am not that cruel. I am not saying you are not a net positive poster but you simply need to calm down and be more open minded. I feel you are probably reasonably smart but because you start with an agenda rather than being open minded it causes you to make errors of judgement.

Now try to contain yourself from replying because to have the last word for you is very important but there is nothing more you can say. I mean despite denying the data demonstrates what it clearly does and now as you clearly have stated without defining what makes a good poster then all scoring of what is not defined is meaningless. I mean I would have not gone as far as "meaningless" but if you insist I will let that slide because people who self destruct their own arguments are not to be teased. I am not that kind of person. So let us drop it for your sake.

Why are you people even jumping on this like I have not already said this 10x before and I have said already I have probably sent more merit to top holders on meta than other people?? the fact you assume some vendetta to produce data which clearly demonstrates what I have said all along then you feel you are doing something wrong which I have never said nor assumed. Meta is subjective how can you be doing anything wrong ? therefore why is it a vendetta?  I can't accept this concept is too complicated for these top merit holders to grasp.

Do you honestly still not get the point.

Does this seem like some double standard from me?  Honestly after all that has been said you think this is the point. NO.

Anyone can send merit to posts they wish or whom they wish. There is nothing wrong with it. It is understandable you send to people on boards you post on the most and to those you align views with the most. This is natural behaviour. It is fun, it is nice to reward people that provide stats, or do things you ask for and provide info you find useful. I like the merit system it's cool and helps somewhat to prevent spam.

What they can't claim is a high merit score better poster than low merit score. That really is it.  

No need for all this fuss and excitement once you just accept that.  Once you accept merit for what it is then you can just enjoy meriting who you want for posts you feel are good. If you want to bookmark certain peoples post histories and just check them for good posts that is totally acceptable and fine.

Why is this still being discussed is the weirdest thing. It is like a few people can not accept their merits scores do not make them proven and tested great posters by any kind of objective criteria. Also from debating even simple things with them it is quite obvious that the fact they could even dream that they could be valued according to their merit scores compared to all other members is ludicrous.

Let's discuss something new. I am ready for a new topic since this is debate has been thrashed out and is now rotating in circles with mostly people just repeating things that have been said before. Even entire reams of stats that had been presented before.
If people wish to read the entire history of this debate they can easily find the threads and read and decide for themselves.

Stop spamming your sig and stalking me and my posts. Using them as an excuse to spam your sig is annoying.

Rome was not built in a day and I will merit whom I please you clearly still do not understand there is nothing wrong with sending merit in meta nor have I said there is nor is there anything wrong with sending them to the top merit holders. If you understood how merit works and what it demonstrates rather than what you want it to mean and what you want it represent then you would stop worrying about it and replying to these posts. Of course you will reply to anything to gain some btc dust. If you stfu I will send you some wireless coins which are great during time travel. Bitcoins don't work before 2009.

Please read my posts before reposting stuff others have said 10x and that I have said myself many times before instead of apparently revealing something that amuses you that is not funny nor amusing because it does not contradict anything I have said. You find it funny only because you don't have the capacity to realise if I send all my merit to suchmoon or foxy on meta board it does not mean anything with regard the point I have been making.

Go spam your sig elsewhere. Make some posts in ivory tower or serious discussion ..... oh wait no sigs in there?

That is precisely why I am posting it here.

I know it has been reported before many times. I am just wondering why it is still doing it for years and still posting 3 times in one hour today and has been doing so for a VERY long time without seemingly any problem from mods at all.

I was sure replying to your own post over and over and over and over was against the board rules. Are you saying you believe it is okay to do so?

I am really awaiting a DT trust or mod or at least a regular poster of meta (experience here with such thing as rules etc) to reply so I can know not only yes or no but perhaps some reason why it would be allowed or not allowed.

Stop sig spamming. Keep to sensible comments. I don't think you should get 4 bucks or whatever for this kind of post.

You are not a "wanna be moderator" because I heard you will refuse the position (not that i'm saying it would be offered to you)

Well that has been going on for years

1. it has not been missed by mods
2. it has been reported before by many people even here on meta.

It is either against the rules or is within the rules. To me it would seem there would be a rule in place to prevent everyone doing this about their fav coin but maybe not.

There is no chance even for great contributors to walk away freely.

Review fee ascertain 1.1000 (most don't even make 1000 posts)

Temp ban
Sig ban.

Why does everyone not just create a news thread about their own fav coin and spam it sometimes 3 or 4 times per hour on the main board. I mean soon the main board becomes the ANN board more or less.

If this is against the rules how has it not been closed or banned since I have seen several people report it before?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523788.0

I mean if it is not against the rules to do this clearly to spam your own fav project then I am shocked more are not doing it.

That's a load off then.

So none of those want to be mods and were just pushed forward by others and will refuse such a position.

No doubt about it that a certain fairness could be a good thing to have in that position.

would I need to provide that.

I said they are hoping to be

Look at the proposed new mod suggestions draw your own conclusions.

@suchmoon

"Meaningless without providing those two user IDs. Seems to be based entirely on your allegation that top 200 merits and Meta merits are not indicative of post quality, not to mention the unclear definition of "better poster".

LOL I mean the entire fact you want a definition of "better post" or good post or it is meaningless  completely substantiates my claim that you can not take merit at all as an correct measure of some objectively derived quality  and is meaningless there is no objective criteria/definition given for its basis. The fact you can not see this is quite funny. Your entire statement is a only valid in your own mind to be anything other than word salad. I mean you just proved my entire point without even bothering with the data that demonstrates to anyone considering the fact that if you remove just 0.13% of users merit given that that same 0.13% is crushed by over 80% is well......

As to your other points which are nonsense I have answered I am responding to those directly posting nonsense as an explanation or bringing me up personally to discuss what I apparently predicted without stating my full criteria for those predictions then apparently proving me wrong whilst actually proving my predictions were quite accurate. Anyway It seems I was pretty near the mark so no need to discuss further.

Thanks for posting.
We can leave it there unless people want to continue discussing.

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