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28261  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cant send PM's on BTC-E? on: July 10, 2013, 02:56:29 AM
add BTC-e to skype. message them. they seem to reply faster then the ticket system

skype: btc-e.com

dont tell them passwords or emails. just your username
28262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in MMOs (or other video games) on: July 09, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
online games can integrate it easy.

when a customer buys the game they get given a bitcoin address registered to their username. the server puts the public address into a config file, zips it up and allows the customer to download.

now that username is linked to a key that cant be keygened.

the server keeps the private keys , checks balances, etc. so that users are forced to pay into that public address to credit their accounts.

even if a user swaps out the public address in their download for another address.. because the server is only looking for the address linked to the privkey.. its useless to hack/mod the local download on customers machines
28263  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help fund our non profit on: July 09, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
wow that cry was so loud, it echo'd
28264  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help fund our non profit on: July 09, 2013, 05:45:32 PM
Show me the source of where you got my "name" even though that isn't my name.

You got me congrats but im still not that weed growing guy, i swear. now time to change my i.p delete my twitter change my steam account delete my google account, delete my bitcoin account and this account

weldone for the quick scam spot, dox and destroy.

i hate these scammers. im just waitin on finshaggys next exploit lol
28265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Taking Bitcoin to the next level on: July 09, 2013, 01:17:42 AM
most people already have smartphones.. i have one that cost under $50 that has the blockchain.info wallet on it.. i cant see a problem....

but a person having to have a second device that's only function is transferring money. and IF NOT using a mesh network (with its own problems) it would require its own call plan to have internet access.

i think App development is the way forward, not device development for wallets
28266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you buy a on: July 08, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
you dont need a device.. just the programming skills to make a good app for the current range of smart phones.

most people do not want to spend $20-$200 just to store there cash, but an app adds a layer of security to your phone.. that would work
28267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Run 'Round FINCEN Rules. Bitcoin Exchanges without Registering on: July 08, 2013, 03:20:27 AM
If I buy a currency via e-trade, scottrade, or the other with USD i'm not required to have a license.  Why would bitcoin be any different?

I'd be interested to hear arguments against.

bitcoin is not different. its just that a few numbskulls have mis-read the fincen guidelines and put on their panic hats.
28268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Run 'Round FINCEN Rules. Bitcoin Exchanges without Registering on: July 08, 2013, 02:56:22 AM


I should point out that there are no administrators since the requirement states they be able to both issue and redeem (withdraw from circulation) --- nobody can withdraw a bitcoin from circulation - so we have no administrators.

so the only thing at applies is "as a business" re: exchange of bitcoin to fiat or vice versa.

So miners and users don't need to concern themselves - only exchanges and people who are registered as a business...


99% correct - green is statement on point. red is not so on point.
miners making bitcoin are fine. but mining pools such as 50BTC.com which allows withdrawals in FIAT at the pool. have to be careful.
mining 'workers' dont need to be concerned but pools offering FIAT(direct bank transfer)/convertible virtual currency (dwolla /webmoney online representation of FIAT) Do need to be careful

anything touching FIAT has to be careful. fincen rules are all about dollars and always have been.

the words
Convertible virtual currency - is not bitcoin. so bitcoin remains unaffected just like the last 4 years.

convertible virtual currency = a database on a server(not owned by the banking sector) with a numeric amount that represents a FIAT value.

EG bitstamp dollar is not a legal tender dollar as its only viewable on bitstamp servers. so this is the convertible virtual currency.

bank account dollar is legal tender. so when bitstamp convert their online balance into someones bank account they need to be registerd as a MSB and regulated(licenced) for money transmission because they are moving legal tender aswell as convertible virtual currency.

for a mining pool owner just moving dwolla balances from his dwolla account to his mining workers dwolla accounts. he just needs to be a MSB registered but not money transmission licenced, due to the fact that they are not moving legal tender. only convertible virtual currency (dwolla dollars). so no money transmission licence.(because they dont touch BANK accounts of customers)

the simple rule is. if your moving FIAT around or handling the online digital form of it AS A BUSINESS you need to be MSB registered. if you are then doing specific things like moving it into bank accounts (legal tender) then you need money transmitter licences ontop.
28269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is XRP ripple atomic, or can it be split into smaller units like bitcoin? on: July 07, 2013, 09:04:52 PM
What does it matter? XRP can be increased infinitely by Opencoin, Inc. at any time.

then stop treating xrp as another alt coin.........

because its not..

ripple is like the postal service for transmitting bitcoins and FIAT. XRP is the stamps on the envelope which opencoin sell/give away for its postal systm to work. and they get paid from these XRP. just like the postal service gets pad via stamp prices..

at the moment large exchanges are buying stamps(xrp) because they need to do alot of transactions so they need to stock pile. that is the only reason for treating XRP as a valued item

it was never intended to be used purely for swapping back and forth for profit by the average population.

if you can make profit on it great. if you cant make profit and have grievances about the fact that its not got the same features of a altcoin. then you need to stop trading it. and just hold maybe 1000XRP for its intended use as the transaction fee on the peer-to-peer system known as ripple.
28270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can we reduce our reliance on MtGOX? on: July 07, 2013, 02:33:55 AM
yes you would need a licence. but they are not that expensive if your a bricks and mortar store. You only need it for the area you trade in, not the whole country.

although not recommended for the small independants, but a large retailer that is not a national chain could easily do it.

but the example above is just one 'brain fart' possible way to become less reliant on gox pricing. obviously theres small print details that need covering.

other options to 'help' with licence costs are:

having a single business called "BTCSELLER" that is licenced and then classes each retailer offering its BTC/FIAT service as agents of the BTCSELLER business when doing bitcoin sales.

another option is the Bitcoin ATM company. which simply places a bitcoin ATM in retail stores. where legally its not the retailers business to 'transmit' fiat to BTC

28271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can we reduce our reliance on MtGOX? on: July 07, 2013, 02:26:31 AM
the way to do it is simple

lets say bitcoin is MTGOX valued at $70

let take a merchant that sells bitcoins and T-Shirts.

he sells Tshirts at $8 each (fiat)
he sells bitcoins at $80 each
but offers people  T-shirts at 0.09BTC ($7.20) to tempt people to buy bitcoins

other merchants start following suite.

soon the bitcoin population see bitcoins are being bought for $80 and ignore mtgox prices as mtgox is limited in its routes to fund, due to easier methods of gaining bitcoin in retail stores.

also those that buy bitcoins at $80 wont sell them on MTGox for under $80.. making MTGOX follow retailer pricing, instead of the other way around
28272  Other / Meta / Re: Some dumb fuck has hacked my Forum name on: July 06, 2013, 09:18:14 PM
dumb.. ability to hack a password means someone has atleast 100 IQ

having a hackable password on the other hand..............
28273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One more "Let's bring Bitcoins to ..." Newspapers! on: July 06, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
you got a point. a few people here just want to see it mentioned on newspapers. not used to buy news articles, so +1 for your idea.
people don't need to sell/advertise bitcoin like a product by advertising it in newspapers. because people already see it as a product. meaning its something they buy and then think to themselves, what can they use it with.

what truly needs to be done is have a bitcoin 'yellow pages' of businesses that accept bitcoin.

most people can only think of and name 5-10 LEGIT bitcoin businesses.

the most common are:
wordpress
bitmit
bitcoinstore

and a couple random others.

but hardly anyone can name or even realise that there are thousands of businesses, and not just in the U.S. everything from dating (OKCupid), fast food (Foodler).

if you truly want to try something, heres a sales pitch (aimed at the armchair activists)

"tired of being alone in your basement hacking away at your keyboard, with no love in your life. well thanks to bitcoin you can be rich, successful and find love.

1)get into bitcoin
2)sign up to OKCupid with bitcoin
3)order food at Foodler ready for when your date arrives

now feel happy that you never had to leave your house to even visit an ATM
28274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CDDDCP] Centre for Digital Decentralised Disease Control and Prevention  on: July 06, 2013, 11:40:34 AM
competition for the best salesman of the month is between

mjbmonetarymetals

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAo-DmzdvK0

both funny and genius
28275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Americans fed up with currency manipulations, turn to Bitcoin on: July 06, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
to mxc0bbn

Quote
The name Kremlin means "fortress", and is often used as a metonym to refer to the government of the Soviet Union (1922–1991)

Quote
Russia Today Launched   10 December 2005

14 years of facepalm
and i guess you have never heard of Max Keiser..

but if you truly are against the russians.. (i don't know why) then try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWzngUrGo0Y

lol casinoBit definitely illustrates how i imagine the OP and first responder
28276  Other / Meta / Re: Protecting our methods of communcations on: July 06, 2013, 04:38:47 AM
as for the idea of NSA making a user account to publicly do fake terrorist activities to then publicise.. that is what is called propoganda..

much the the DEA report about the DEA seizing bitcoins.. most people would call that bad press because it links bitcoins to drugs..

i am not int drugs so i hate the words silk road mentioned. but that DEA report tells me this.

in 2013 between February and May well over 50 million dollars was seized related to drugs..
in 2013 between February and May well only 11BTC was seized related to drugs..

which is more drug related currency?

so with every piece of propaganda there is always a smart person to put  spin on it or to explain it in a way that shows out of the huge scheme of world economy one persons 'trading' does not really amount to much
28277  Other / Meta / Re: Protecting our methods of communcations on: July 06, 2013, 04:29:56 AM
Excuse me if this has been talked about before, but I'd like to get peoples thoughts about how, as a community, we will protect/insure that our assets are secure as "possible". 

Mainly, I'd like to focus on how we communicate with each other.  Bitcointalk.org , solely in my opinion, is the main source for updates/conversation about BTC and it's future in our lives.  A few friends and I were discussing BTC and we tend to jump from subject to subject about any topic we are talking about.  We got into the subject on how the Bitcoin community needs a more secure way to communicate with each other in-case of a organized assault on the community.  By organized assault, we meant a government / corporations attempt to disrupt the day to day flow of information with the users/developers of bitcoin. 

First off, Is bitcointalk.org technically able to mitigate a DDOS for a prolonged period of time.  Do you have plans, if need be, to change Domains?  What I'd like to see is bitcointalk.org to be as/more resilient than pirate bay.  I know they have been brought down for some periods, but you have to admit, the site admins are fantastic to reacting to attacks against the service, and adapting to maintain service throughout an attack. 

Is bitcointalk.org being pen-tested by a professional company?  As even the best plans can be laid, you never know if they will work until you test them.  Any/all  plans should be checked/tested frequently in my opinion.

Secondly, has bitcointalk.org discussed how a organized effort could affect it's operation?  A topic that was brought up is, if the government wanted to get rid of Bitcoin, all they would have to do create a history on this forum with a user name, mainly one that is a extremist, publicly buy some questionable thing from other fake users, and than transfer BTC to a terrorist account that NSA would happen to just be monitoring that account for incoming bitcoin payments.  As I even smiled at this idea because of how radical it is, you can't deny the fact that the government could launch a massive PR campaign against Bitcoin and rally the uninformed US citizen to turn against Bitcoin, at least in the US.  I know, as we all do, that bitcoin is world wide, but you can't think that our governments couldn't pull off a push worldwide if they really thought Bitcoin was a threat to their fiat currency.  It's a interesting subject that needs thought about if it already hasn't been.

Thirdly, more of a idea, but couldn't we develop a chat platform that would utilize bitcoin's network/cryptography to send/recieve messages from a "ID."  That ID can be discussed later, but wouldn't that serve as a secondary form of communicate in the event that a government seizes/blocks any domains that is used for bitcoin communication?  It would work on a already self-regulated network that is supplied by it's users, and would allow a certain amount of resiliency for communications to be delivered. 

Just some idea's we've talked about, and I'm interested in your thoughts about these.  Thanks!

the short version,,,,,

IRC #Bitcoin

medium version,,,,,
when bitcoin was going to fork in the past due to different versions of 0.7x the development teams were all in communication with the pools, etc to get through it within a couple hours.

worse comes to worse if bitcointalk went down. the discussion dies. i would not recommend every run off to #bitcoin to continue random topics, but i would recommend that they use #bitcoin to see where the new domain is or find out how soon the issues may become resolved.

IRC seems to be the best way to communicate. it does not have to be that one Sole room. there are already altcoin rooms, dev rooms, community group rooms to ensure a thousand random topics of conversation dont occur in one place, which should allow the devs to get on with their important word without trolling. and have designated area's for whatever topic you want to discuss..much like this forum has sub categories.
28278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price drop? Thank all those that advocated working with regulators. on: July 05, 2013, 09:42:48 PM
BTC price will SKYROCKET as soon at the First Fully regulated exchange comes on line.

I'm taking bets.

use http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/msbstateselector.html

so far just typing in 'bit' into the legal name:
bitbox
bitquick

are the only 2 fully US covered.


Also CampBX, which is registered as Bulbul Investments LLC with the MSB registration number: 31000026967575


Do you have any idea what that means??  Please tell.

ok CAMPBX is the new 'bankers favourite'
405 Seller of money orders
408 Check casher
409 Money transmitter
499 Other

for all US states..

after rechecking the listings of companies just beginning 'Bit' only bitbox is 409 registered. (guess my enthusiasm was too quick)
i could see campBX not having as many bureaucratic issues with frozen accounts then lets say... exchanges like version 1 of intersango
28279  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price drop? Thank all those that advocated working with regulators. on: July 05, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
Franky's totally right: if you touch fiat (in the open rather than in the hidden underground "cash-only" market), then you have to play by the State's and banks' rules.
You're exactly right, while also completely missing the point.

You're operating under the assumption that a business that works on the interface between fiat and bitcoin needs to touch it in order to operate. This is not the case. It's a matter of being creative and challenging your assumptions of what a business is and what it takes to operate one successfully.

If you think of a business as an organization that requires an office, and a corporate charter, and a bank account, you start off excluding a great many possible solutions to the problems due the way you're unconsciously limiting your imagination.

Think of a business a being simply a group of people who are all working together to earn an income by solving problems.

What tools does a group of people who are working together to solve problems need to organize themselves? What are all the possible approaches they could try in order to overcome the obstacles getting in their way? Do they all need to be located in the same city, or even the same continent?

Entire universes of possibilities present themselves if you set aside preconceived notions that were formed in previous centuries and instead remain open to fully employing the capabilities we have today.
that is also true. but half of these Exchanges do not diversify EG having independant parties staying under thresholds to not independantly require certain bureaucracy.

this is where in the UK bitbargain works great. its not one bank account or one employee accountable.. its like localbitcoins in certain ways. which lessens the requirements of Bitbargain owner needing to be bureaucratically covered as they themselves do not touch the individual FIAT
28280  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price drop? Thank all those that advocated working with regulators. on: July 05, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
if you want to utilise the tool of freedom known as bitcoin.... then stop relying on the government FIAT..

Because it's always wise to take advice from people that have no idea what they're talking about but like telling other people what to do.

I'm putting your spam on ignore. See ya.

well wishing for government to stop controlling their property(fiat), by talking about it on a forum.. hmm that'll work (not)
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