I'm open to suggestions on how to avoid sockpuppets. The obvious solution would be members have to tie to identities, at least once for verification. We can discard the records once verified. We can use an independent company to do the identity verification without giving us details. We can even outsource the membership management and vote management to an independent third party.
2 methods 1. auto block tor/proxy IP's to stop clones making a ridiculous amount of names. but dont record or log IP's just compare them at registration and block known tor/proxy addresses. 2. why need someone whole life story. a simple webcam/picture of the user holding up their username on a piece of paper should suffice. but more important then members fee's what benefits/services/powers will this organisation have/give. and what salary will you earn from the fee's |
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just bought one from jagoo. about to redeem, but i notice the exchange rate being used is 137.31, while i show bitstamp at 116. just to double check, what i see on your site is bitstamps price plus giftcoins cut, right? meaning i won't redeem my $15 giftcard and see not just a higher exchange rate, but another fee too?
got impatient and redeemed it - "redeemed value" was $14, not 15 listed on the card. that plus the higher exchange rate hurts a little.
still - very easy way to buy coin, particularly with a credit card. (or debit in my case.) in fact, the card i used was my paypal debit. so this actually alloweds one ot go from paypal to btc, if you have the paypal card.
dang.. so i think i read this right so for $17.99 out of your paypal, they credited you with only $14.. not $15 which, when bitstamp was $116 giftcoins was $137.71 giving you: 0.101BTC for $17.99 ((1btc/$137.31)*14) where you could have got: 0.129.3BTC if you had $15 in bitstamp where you could have got: 0.155.3BTC if you had $17.99 in bitstamp 29-55% difference...... ouch even worse is that none of their valuations match anything close to the amounts it costs the user, the value available to be redeemed or the bitcoin they will end up with. and on top of that they don't send you a physical card.. just a free email with a code.(i would have expected 20-50% variance with manufacturing/delivery costs of a physical card included, but not for a email code) if this is the true end result then giftcoins are truly not a great service. infact i feel sorry for ya. give me your bitcoin address and purely because of this 29-50% profit grab giftcoins have ripped you off with, ill send you 0.055 to get you to where giftcoins should have if they had a proper business model. yea, that matches what i recall of the math at the time. address pm'd. - i really should add it to my sig. im not affiliated with giftcoins at all and i am doing this just once as a bit of charity.. but anyways https://blockchain.info/tx/57d691706a2decc77f74973f366f40819f773c520e4dcb5f4a94a4b51a379a30 - sent  although many people think that giftcoins is a fast and effective service. a upto 50% reduction in potential Bitcoin arklan could have got is a reason why the mainstream, non crypto, average joe would not want to get into bitcoin. imagine someone invests $220. this second bitstamp 138.33 this second giftcoin 157.83 $220 becomes $200.20 after jagoo's admin costs they would have over 1.59BTC from bitstamp with a 2 day wire transfer delay they would have over 1.45BTC from bitstamp with a same day cash deposit through bitinstant/moneygram but only getting 1.26btc through giftcoins same day which using bitstamps value is a loss of $46 worth of bitcoin. that is one hell of a convenience surcharge |
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just bought one from jagoo. about to redeem, but i notice the exchange rate being used is 137.31, while i show bitstamp at 116. just to double check, what i see on your site is bitstamps price plus giftcoins cut, right? meaning i won't redeem my $15 giftcard and see not just a higher exchange rate, but another fee too?
got impatient and redeemed it - "redeemed value" was $14, not 15 listed on the card. that plus the higher exchange rate hurts a little.
still - very easy way to buy coin, particularly with a credit card. (or debit in my case.) in fact, the card i used was my paypal debit. so this actually alloweds one ot go from paypal to btc, if you have the paypal card.
dang.. so i think i read this right so for $17.99 out of your paypal, they credited you with only $14.. not $15 which, when bitstamp was $116 giftcard was $137.71 giving you: 0.101BTC for $17.99 ((1btc/$137.31)*14) where you could have got: 0.129.3BTC if you had $15 in bitstamp where you could have got: 0.155.3BTC if you had $17.99 in bitstamp 29-55% difference...... ouch even worse is that none of their valuations match anything close to the amounts it costs the user, the value available to be redeemed or the bitcoin they will end up with. and on top of that they don't send you a physical card.. just a free email with a code.(i would have expected 20-50% variance with manufacturing/delivery costs of a physical card included, but not for a email code) if this is the true end result then giftcards are truly not a great service. infact i feel sorry for ya. give me your bitcoin address and purely because of this 29-50% profit grab giftcard have ripped you off with, ill send you 0.055 to get you to where giftcard should have if they had a proper business model. |
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when luke JR is involved the communities point of view is meaningless.. luke Jr is a known mental case who wants this his way or no way at all. thats why instead of relying on bitcoin.org as the central point for media relations. having multiple hubs available. there are many countries out there and many businesses that may want their own idea of a spokesperson. thats why i planned to just let people who are not already famous have their chance to highlight themselves by making a video and then all of those businesses and other websites around the world which may have a press centre section can choose their own people as spokesmen. using bitcoin.org is called centralisation... especially now its being run by the golden few... so why even bother stressing yourself over their rules. they are just a hand full of individuals. their rules dont matter. the world is much bigger then luke Jr so just do what most others do, and ignore/avoid them. instead help out by making a massive list of people that may want to be spokes people that think they will never get a chance. get them to make a little video. im not stating it has to be a mock TV interview or a tutorial, or a rigid set script. the community questions were just examples of things they may want to talk about to atleast get a better idea of the persons mindset. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190192.0 |
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[2] banks ... jsut want to know where and with whom the FIAT ends up
[3] banks dont care, as long as they can follow the money (FIAT) trail
That must be important to be worth two numbered points. Why would they care about that? largely because the state threatens to punish them if they don't "care". [4] hmmmmmmmmm big revealing point... the KYC rules are NOT new and not specifically tailored. KYC rules have been the same for many years. its only national media that has hyped it up as being new. which to me shows that transfer wise has not read the regulations fully to know this. but instead just read about it in newspapers. and why is it also revealing.. because as a irish company transfer wise is managed by FSA which does not use the term KYC. they use the term CDD (customer due diligence)
Transferwise's headquarters is in London, not Ireland. The FSA was a UK regulator. It has been abolished. Google site:fsa.gov.uk KYC. [5] banks know exactly what is expected of them. any amounts over $1000 in a smal period of time needs to have available tracking information.
They use dollars in Ireland (or is it the UK) now? not caring as in banks don't mind if your buying 2000 cans of baked beans or bitcoin, banks just want to know where and who the money is going too. i have a bank manager and thats what they said to me: to keep logs of who is doing large payments and to fill out a sars report (which goes to serious organised crime agency not the bank, if theirs suspicions of a illegal use of funds) FSA have also confirmed this. cheers for the correction on the london office, sorry i was checking up on several businesses at once. but british rules still apply. FSA are not abolished. and CDD is what is wrote in the UK/EU REGULATIONS not in the laymens leaflets which tries to be more internationally user friendly. |
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also using transferwises own quote But to gain any of these benefits, the financial regulators need to take a stand.[1] They have many questions to answer - how should the banks treat Bitcoin?[2] Should it be regarded as cash or something new?[3] Are new and specifically tailored “Know Your Customer” rules necessary?[4] Unless the banks are told what is expected of them,[5] they will happily keep on blocking Bitcoin, and consequently blocking our hope for financial innovation. [1] regulators do take a stance.. on FIAT [2] banks dont have to care about bitocin, banks are in the FIAT business not the cans of baked beans business so it doesnt matter what you buy with your FIAT, they jsut want to know where and with whom the FIAT ends up [3] banks dont care, as long as they can follow the money (FIAT) trail [4] hmmmmmmmmm big revealing point... the KYC rules are NOT new and not specifically tailored. KYC rules have been the same for many years. its only national media that has hyped it up as being new. which to me shows that transfer wise has not read the regulations fully to know this. but instead just read about it in newspapers. and why is it also revealing.. because as a irish company transfer wise is managed by FSA which does not use the term KYC. they use the term CDD (customer due diligence) [5] banks know exactly what is expected of them. any amounts over $1000 in a smal period of time needs to have available tracking information. transfer wise obviously didn't have enough knowledge of the rules or the information of exchanges to pass onto banks if the banks asked for details of "who is bitstamp" |
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everyone saying that satoshi dice is killing bitcoin by filling up the block size. in my opinion satoshi dice is the sandbox of the future.
when bitcoin becomes valued at thousands of dollars each, users will start transacting in satoshis, not whole coins. and because of the population increase within the community, there will be much more transactions.
so satoshidice is actually showing you what will happen in the future. and to find solutions that help small transactions flow freely. NOT be ignored or being priced out of being able to transact by having huge fee's in an attempt to stop these small transactions.
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this is not about what YOU want
the community want to see confident and smart people to represent bitcoin.
seems like YOU want just a couple of select few, one which you have already nominated.
Not true. My proposal is to add several new people. I nominated one, but asked for other nominations and we now have seven people nominated. Three of them are Finnish, three are Spanish-speaking and one is Matonis. As I said, apply the process to the existing roster and I will agree with you 100%. Apply it only to new candidates and I'll asusme it's another attempt to delay and distract without good faith. The status quo is a choice - it is an endorsement of the existing roster, an exclusion of other candidates broadly supported and a completely capitulation of control to three developers with little or no press experience. i have not limited it to say that those nominated cannot make videos. i have not set any goal posts or set any conditions that the only way the press will contact them is if they are firstly nominated through one website. and voted for by someguys single decision based on typing "ACK" on a certain page. you have set some limiting goalposts by suggesting that the only way though to a press page is through ACK ACK ACK your proposal. there is more then one website in the world there is more then one language. so dont limit it. you just said apply the process to the existing roster.... well its your roster. your plan, so its upto you to apply it to YOUR roster. otherwise, allow others who may not have the big wealth and big names, but do have a smart mind and a balanced point of view to make a video to show themselves off and allow the community to adopt them in whatever way they want. i will not ACK your proposal as you have set the goalposts which is limiting anyone from applying, all the end result will be from your proposal is a select few well known guys. missing out on the wealth of knowledge and opinions that may be overlooked by your goalposts. EDIT - seen your last reply facepalm when i read news stories i actually go forward and i contact the media to correct them where they go wrong and i suggest better names to interview in the future. EG Amir taaki (homeless, bankrupt, ex-entrepeuner who loves to talk about hacking, gun control at bitcoin conferences more then bitcoin itself.. not be interviewed again. where as a few other select names that do talk in a nice smooth manner about bitcoin and the positive and legal future of the coin are mentioned to the media) i dont rely on telling the media to go visit bitcoin.org to choose from the "golden few". if the media want to talk about merchant services i mention bitpay, it its payment gateways i mention bitinstant. if its exchanges i mention mtgox, if its the technical side of bitcoin its gavin.. there should be no limit to how many get to be the chosen few. but having atleast examples of how those that have not yet been chosen would actually respond infront of the camera, will help EVERYONE to have their favourites |
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heres my plan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190192.0simply put give the oppertunity for anyone in the community to make a video to show off their skills and let the community later choose who they prefer. no limit on numbers or location. feel free to make a video about bitcoin and all those community projects can then add you to their lists or those that are in contact with media can mention your name as a point of contact As long as the process applied equally to all the people ALREADY on the list, and it was applied consistently and fairly, its fine. If the video nomination process is another litmus test, applied only to new nominations, and judged as opaquely as the pull-request process, then NO, that's just another charade to distract people from the power grab. I do not mean to imply that you want the second approach, I don't know you. The people who are trying to impose their opinions on the community keep moving the goal posts and instituting more and more litmus tests for the candidates and voting tests for the community. First it was a git-literacy test, then it was a "you must be a dev on bitcoin", so I'm not sure I want to add "make a video". this is not about what YOU want the community want to see confident and smart people to represent bitcoin. seems like YOU want just a couple of select few, one which you have already nominated. my plan is that ignoring one websites personal desires, having a thread filled with a multitude of people all showing off their TV presence and allowing the bitcoin community to see who they like and to then themselves use those names they choose to be their advocate. i have a website which will highlight some notable people i beleive will be good spokes people, and so do others have their own websites for their area's/interests. imagine a guy in england that wants a handful of names to pick from to talk to the BBC in london, or channel4 up north.. wouldnt it be good to have lots of faces and examples to pick from to then have a nice varied selection, instead of just 4 americans. now imagine someone in australia that wants local talent, wouldnt they also want a selection of names and video examples to pick who they favour that atleast knows and understands australian economy. same again imagine it for russians, italians, israeli, thai's, chinese. the list goes on...... limiting it to a few select people is not truly covering the whole communities viewpoint. i do agree that there ought to be some standards that these representatives should have. but limiting it to just a handful of people or meeting a criteria that only you want is not the right way of doing it. i suggest making a video for the simple reason, if they are going to be on TV then having a video is atleast a sandbox of what to expect they will say infront of a camera. that way there is no surprise. just mentioning names because they are "big people" in the community means nothing.. everyone knows the name Pirate@40. so should we really be judging people purely on the wealth they hold and the popularity of their name? |
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It is naive to think that Transferwise halted transfers to Bitcoin exchanges because of perceived competition to their own business model. Transferwise is an internet business - to adapt its model to integrate Bitcoin would be trivial. They have the business, software and regulatory foundations making them better placed than any existing Bitcoin business to take advantage should Bitcoin prove popular.
A more plausible answer is that their banking provider noticed an increase - or was notified of an increase - of funds that had been flagged moving through Transferwise's account. Bitcoin provides those with unlawful access to funds the ideal opportunity to 'break' the paper trail. By funneling money through Transferwise and then into a Bitcoin exchange, the money can be laundered and effectively pass the fiat liability onto the last link in the chain. It is fairly clear that Eastern European banks are not particularly concerned about the provenience of funds that are deposited to their accounts (this was a prime concern of the Germans with regards to the Cypriot banking systems "Ask no questions, hear to lies" attitude) so this likely leaves the liability in the lap of the preceding link in the chain... in this case Barclays. Money service businesses are categorized in the highest risk bracket by the banking sector - those who are lucky enough to exist with a banks grudging blessing - do so at the banks pleasure.
Transferwise was likely told that due to an increase in fraudulent transactions entering their account and an increase in funds leaving to high risk endpoints (Mt Gox Poland or Bitstamp Slovenia), they either cease directing funds to these accounts or their account would be terminated. If they lost their account, it would likely severely hinder their ability to do business in the UK. Sure, it was profitable, but they have no real power in the relationship and that in essence, is the irony of Transferwise's rhetoric; they spout about how much "Banks are bad" "Banks have had their fun" etc etc, when infact they are completely and utterly at the mercy of the banking sector...
+1000 if exchanges want to help bitcoin be legit then they too must be legit, which will ensure any middle men wont have issues dealing with exchanges. if a exchange doesnt want to be legit, then stop dealing in FIAT as they are becoming the problem of making bitcoin look bad |
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1. canadian mintchip never took off, its old 2012 news now.
2. speaking with my bank, after training them about bitcoin. they actually like bitcoin and dont care about it, as the pound coin remains in UK hands. it would be a bit different if i told my bank i was posting UK bank notes in an envelope addressed to a foreign country. but as long as 1 guy in the UK is buying bitcoins and another guy in the UK is selling bitcoins. the pound coin stays in england, it just changes bank accounts. and that is what they love.
3. centralised exchanges have a problem of it only requiring 1500 bitcoins (~£$225,000) to make a bitcoin price drop or rise by over 10% in one shot. which then makes everyone else panic because everyone is looking at the exact same price point.
having 20-100(or more) different locations to view their own price points that are not sheeps of the mtgox price avoids panic periods.
what needs to be made is a new way of judging value. and here is one i propose.
get the number of miners per day and divide that by the amount of bitcoins produced per day.. and call that an average income value per miner.
then use commodity prices and reasonable costs of a daily food/rent/electric/vehicle expenditure to tally against this average income.
this would produce a more stable and fair value of bitcoin
EG imagine the average income was 0.3BTC a day per miner. and the average expenditure per household was $£50 that would value bitcoin at just over £$150.
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I think the interim solution is going to be something like the Bitcoin ATM, or physical kiosks and shops selling BTC *for cash*. No dramas about bank accounts or lots of deposits and payments.
Just work in cash. It's how people for example buy prepaid phone credit. The infrastructure already exists - you just need to make a good business case to these shops (typical 7/11 etc).
+1 use local bitcoins or ATMs that have a $1000/euro1000/£850 daily limit and you never need to worry about FSA fincen shutting them down. thats what makes me laugh about these "official" exchanges that exceed the amounts and never follow the regulations to realise what needs to be avoided. and then they cry when the regulators come knocking. as for tranferwise. they should develop a relationship with their bank better. their own statement Financial firms make choices on the basis of clear rules. Without them, things like Bitcoin fall into the hands of those who use it for illegal activities. This leaves businesses like ours that meet their obligation to anti-money laundering and “Know Your Customer” procedures unable to deal with it. well if transfer wise has ID on the customer and ID on the bitcoin exchange then the money trail does not end with transferwise so banks wont worry about transferwise as they are following regulations. the problem yet again is the exchanges. that dont keep logs of the money trail above the limits to keep the banks sweet. so the banks advise middle men to stop dealing with exchanges. exchanges need to up their games, pure and simple |
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I think the 1.35 billion people in China are going to start to be more of a driver of bitcoin then the USA in 2014.
it only requires 11 million people in the world to put in less the 2 months worth of minimum wage salary into bitcoin to make bitcoin worth $1500 heres the maths $1500 = under 2 months wages.. 11 million people = amount of bitcoins in circulation.. ill leave you to figure out the rest. now that just leaves the other 5 billion people(minus china) in the world to fight over the rest of the bitcoin over the next few years |
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heres my plan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190192.0simply put give the oppertunity for anyone in the community to make a video to show off their skills and let the community later choose who they prefer. no limit on numbers or location. feel free to make a video about bitcoin and all those community projects can then add you to their lists or those that are in contact with media can mention your name as a point of contact |
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ok heres the plan
if you think you can be a great PR/spokesperson for bitcoin. then make a video, and post it in this thread.
also mentioning your current location and travel abilities (distance) both self financed or financed by the media.
what will happen next
your videos will be put forward to the community to show the great talent that may have been over looked or the iffy people the community may not want seen on TV. then all the community projects highlighting bitcoin can use the names they desire in their lists for press representatives to contact.
we are not looking for just a handfull of top spokespeople. we are looking for a rich and large supply of spokes people, enough to cover each country and even smaller regions within each country so that not only international media have people to speak to but local media have a point of contact also.
now back to the video.
examples of content most people want to hear you talk about is
what is bitcoin for the layman.
what is the future of bitcoin
what is your personal opinions of bitcoin
idea's you have that can help bitcoin grow.
there is no criteria as to what the video would be about, the example points above are just that, examples. As long as the video shows you off in your best light talking about bitcoin so that the community will be encouraged to use your name in their websites/projects/chats with media as a possible point of contact. etc etc
now have fun making videos and we (the community) cannot wait to see them.
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We all want Bitcoin to go from a speculation currency to having a real economy and backbone value. The best way for that to happen is people exchanging bitcoins for goods and services locally. At Coinster we're building out our local exchange marketplace to help facilitate that. My question is what sort of skills do you have which can be exchanged for BTC? Here is what we have so far: car service - car wash/detail - chaeuffeur - tune up - oil change - mechanic food - bread - cookies - cakes residence - house cleaning - maid - butler hair/beauty - haircut/barber - stylist - manicurist computer - repair - web development tutor/instruction - musical instrument - education/math - computer/tech great idea, but due to the niche market of bitcoin the majority of your replies will be jokes (trolls) or those genuinely skilled in computer based industries. it may be worth you not just posting here, but in craigslist and other more varied forums |
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guys seriously.. HOLD UP where has your due diligence gone!! this is a scammer. and here is why. firstly their name is only 3 days old. their first posts was instantly trying to sell lancelot boards. which we all know are AVALONS property. he then went on to not trust avalon Hi!
Please correct me if I am wrong but from what I see, bitcoin allows 100% protection for the merchant but 0% protection for the customer.
So, if we would send 780bitcoins to purchase avalon IC we just need to pray that they will deliver. If they will not deliver it's just tough.
Is this correct?
he is from the UK Bank of Scotland is the biggest gathering of thieves ever. This bank has closed my business account in 2009 and refunded the money after 4 years with no interest. I had to invest hundreds of hours of my time in reading legislation and writing letters. Not only this, they have also sent the Police and HMRC over my house just to hassle me. When they've seen that we are legit, they just refunded the money but paid no interest. My fight with this bank still continues. Read more details here: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?331715-8000GBP-retained-by-Bank-of-Scotlandand doesnt even know avalon that well to know who made the boards/done the designs plan/fpga coding. Thank you.
All our thanks go to to ngzhang who has developed the pcb and part of the fpga code and ztex who have developed the fpga code.
also their only pics are using the boards produced by avalon.... not their own supposed boards. blackarrow is not a board manufacturer. if anything he is a reseller. atleast do some due diligence guys... at best he is reselling you the reclaimed boards that people send back as part of their trade in. anyways goodluck throwing your money away. if your looking for some actual 2013 produced FPGA that are not second hand look into the cairnsmores. |
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Every time I read about seasteading I have to ask myself if any of the people promoting the idea have ever been at sea in a storm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draupner_waveThe ocean is not some placid pool of water waiting for us to put a bunch of barges out to sea so we can have a "red neck yacht club". This coming Tuesday, the predicted weather off the north coast of California is "...N TO NE WINDS 30 TO 40 KT. SEAS BUILDING TO 12 TO 19 FT..." 12 to 19 feet is the "signficant wave height". Be prepared for individual waves that may be TWICE that size. A 38 foot wave would make a mess of just about every seastead plan I have seen and this is just an average day in the ocean. I have not even looked for a storm. this is where dubai's palm island works so well. the outer ring is the sea defence and the inner branches are where you build the housing/buildings on. |
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good to hear.
learn to avoid the mistakes from the worse to become the best
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