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28921  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Have you heard of Litecoin? 1.5 FREE LITECOINS FOR SIGNING UP on: March 06, 2013, 04:38:31 AM
if your not in the lists i do its simply because i am ignoring the obvious fakes and cloned sheep
sorry but it has to be done. don't get mad for getting something free.

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Thanks
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Thank you!
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Thanks Smiley
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Here is my address:
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Thank you!
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Thanks   Cheesy
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I installed the LTC client, here is my address
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thankyou!
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Just signed up, not sure how this works.
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Best of luck to this.
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Hi,
I just started today with Litecoins
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Thanks  Smiley
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May I have some of the silver goodness please?
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28922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you say this article from the guardian on bitcoin is propagandist? on: March 05, 2013, 03:18:25 PM
nice reply on the comments section of the newspapers page. just a shame the guardian will never read it

Quote
This news paper is digging up old news from 2011 when the only use of Bitcoins was the black market. i guess their researcher needs to prepare his resignation letter sooner then expected.
Bitcoin is used NOW! globally for THOUSANDS of legit businesses as oppose to the one 'dodgy' website known as silk road.
Saying that the whole half a billion dollars worth of market capital is silk road, is like saying the whole of Norway is an underground currency based purely on one street of one town of Norway where there is known to be a couple drug-lords hanging around.

Get out of the sheep cycle of propaganda and actually do some proper research 'Guardian'.
bitcoinstore.com
wordpress.com
www.grippit.co.uk
www.xecnet.com
That's just a couple. how here is a bigger list (but by no means complete)
www.spendbitcoins.com/places

I have personally never used drugs and those within the user base of Bitcoin I chat to also don't venture into silk road. you are comparing it like the dollar use to be back in the days of the wild west. when money was only good to spend in saloons on beer and prostitutes. Yes that's right Bitcoin has grown into a proper currency in under 2 years of its 4 year life thus far, where it took dollar 100 years to get to this point.

Now imagine the future of Bitcoin
28923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lost bitcoins - a bigger flaw than originally thought? on: March 05, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
more hysterical postings about lost coins.

i truly feel this is more attempts at some 'robin hood' type of people tryng to create fud to then use as justification to steal other peoples long term investment.

the 2% loss per year is of small denominations of FIAT.

trust me people owning bars of gold or expensive artwork typically don't just lose it.

don't worry about other peoples coins just look after your own.
28924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP is a currency, not just a stamp (screenshot inside) on: March 05, 2013, 02:02:15 AM
first bug/issue

the order book doesn't update unless you log completely out of ripple and log back in.

it doesnt have to be on a timer but atleast set to update if you changed the issuer or the currency type would help people get most up to date pricing when trading with bitstamp ETC.
28925  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WTF is that (bitcoin generatr) on: March 04, 2013, 11:49:16 PM
Probably a wallet-stealer.

a wallet stealer,
a keylogger
a stealth miner set to use your computer to mine coins for someone else.

now you pick one.

its poorly designed with a colourful background like most script kiddies programs usually are.

ask yourself wheres the source code and how do i self compile it.

ask that question with any program that is not produced by a legitimate business. or a friend that you can atleast slap with a wet fish if it turns out to be rogue.
28926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is competition healthy for Bitcoin? on: March 04, 2013, 08:23:04 PM
let bitcoin be the amsterdam currency for drugs, guns and prostitutes, along with cheap electronics. and let litecoin be for everything else.

Freedom is scary, isn't it?

it is when you got one guy spreading fud saying its in the name of freedom but then saying don't spread your wealth anywhere else. lol

if bitcoin gets out from just the 'amsterdam currency' niche market great. but at the moment the majority of bitcoiners are not helping themselves out beyond those markets.

having the freedom to choose which to push forward, should be just that, a freedom. no competition at all and a mindset of staying in a niche market wont help bitcoin at all. they need competition just to give them more incentive to thrive and to expand, else in 4 years time they will be saying "we have value because of silkroad" as their only defence that there is a constant supply and demand.
28927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is competition healthy for Bitcoin? on: March 04, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
thanks (sacasticly) to Luke Jr for trying to make lite coin look bad

https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Litecoin&diff=prev&oldid=35713

luke JR has a personal grudge against litecoin and has been at it since late november 2011 putting in false and vindictive comments about litecoin.

why??

because he knows litecoin has potential. i dont tell people to read the wiki on litecoin because its now one mans fud files and no longer a source of truth.

instead i give out free litecoins and let people try it out for themselves. if they done like it, they can always stop using it.

luke Jr has obviously missed out all the social values of bitcoin and only cares about the financial value of bitcoin. thats why he creates the fud.

i dont care which digital currency goes mainstream and takes over the likes of paypal and other payment processors that have geriatric banking restrictions. as long as one does, and has a good reason in doing so.

there are too many anonymous people wanting bitcoin to stay anonymous so they can continue doing dodgy dealings, there are too many profiteer's not wanting a world invasion which will cause a stablised price.

so for me litecoins is the perfect candidate for mainstreaming.

let bitcoin be the amsterdam currency for drugs, guns and prostitutes, along with cheap electronics. and let litecoin be for everything else.

openly trading with each other. lots of people talking about making a bitcoin have red and green addresses depending on what its used for. well litecoin can be the green address.
28928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have 2BTC and i want XRP on: March 04, 2013, 03:50:12 PM
im still offering 2BTC if you have 80,000 XRP

or smaller multiples

EG
ill give you 0.2btc for 8k xrp
ill give you 1btc for 40k xrp

or any multiple of 0.1btc.

some people have noted that if they try sending their whole balance of 40k/80k, ripple doesn't like it much due to the 300xrp minimum requirement.

so i will adjust the prices to help you out but i cannot do the minus 300 on smaller multiples below 20k.

so i am willing to do:

78,600XRP and ill still give you 2BTC,
39,300 and ill still give you 1BTC.
19,650 and ill still give you 0.5BTC

message me if interested
28929  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Have you heard of Litecoin? 1.5 FREE LITECOINS FOR SIGNING UP on: March 04, 2013, 06:23:05 AM
WOW! Free Litecoins!  Smiley
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Thanks!  Grin
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Thank you
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You're very generous!
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Free LiteCoins! Yay!  Cheesy
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Apologies, corrected now (and original post updated too, just in case..)
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Thanks much!
seems you have already received some! on the 28th of februaryold mesage
NOT SENT  Angry old transaction

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All hail the provider! Tack så mycket, thank you very much, danke schön!
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I did it! Thanks for the free money. I have been meaning to try this currency; Many thanks!
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Yo lemme at some coin
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Here's my Litecoin address:  LeSNYdEXn62mjoDUnoWvk64RHwNx7M3mr1
Thank you!
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lol when i opened this thread i knew i would see everyone going crazy for some free ltc Tongue hahaha.
but i mean if you want you can send some to me Wink
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Could I please have 1.5 Litecoins Lbi12sxJwT6XBuDbvQtVNJzNBTs9Expfxz ?
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lol, it starts with LSD
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28930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / I have 2BTC and i want XRP on: March 04, 2013, 01:37:04 AM
hi there guys, i want to play about with ripple and XRP so i am looking for some great deals on XRP

i have 2BTC to give you for a reasonable amount of XRP.
i will also do deals of BTC in smaller denominations EG 0.1BTC

and being honest here i will ignore any offers of under 80k XRP for 2BTC (or multiples of under 0.1BTC for 4k XRP)

but i will only do this on offers i see as reasonable. so PM me your offers
28931  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTS 40k XRP for BTC on: March 04, 2013, 01:25:39 AM
0.7BTC for those lovely 40k XRP

in the end i done a generous deal with zkay

http://blockchain.info/tx/f1afe6347843b3b5412663c592fefef2c298013ad720614a8940ccf3115db21b

his 34,800xrp for my 0.9btc

deal complete
28932  Economy / Currency exchange / i have 2bitcoin i want XRP reply with how much XRP you want to exchange on: March 04, 2013, 12:59:01 AM
hi there guys, i want to play about with ripple and XRP so i am looking for some great deals on XRP

i have 2BTC to give you for a reasonable amount of XRP.
i will give out amounts of BTC in smaller denominations EG 0.1BTC

and being honest here i will ignore any offers of under 80k XRP for 2BTC (or multiples of under 0.1BTC for 4k XRP)

but i will only do this on offers i see as reasonable. so PM me with your offers
28933  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Have you heard of Litecoin? 1.5 FREE LITECOINS FOR SIGNING UP on: March 03, 2013, 06:19:01 PM
mugginz that is not a litecoin address!
reb73 that is not a litecoin address!

its starts with an L not a 1

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Thank you.
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Here's mine - LQZtYn4mpNjqPNQdVnAF5Jfu9CowFf6KRV
Just started with the LTC thing so it all helps Smiley
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Oh yays! 1.5ltc is more than my computer made today... <.<
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This is great, thank you!
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Wish I had seen this earlier, but if you feel like being generous I am still within the 30 days of creating my account. Either way, cool idea to help new people and if you are feeling generous: LVtM6NJNzTEwrMi3U47srLCdCFf7vqtt47
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Very generous thank you!
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Thank you!
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thx!
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I really like the Litecoin idea as I'm incredibly interested in cryptocurrencies. I really appreciate your service and look forward to trying my hand at Litecoin mining... since Bitcoin mining is waaaay out of the question for me, haha.
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thank you much
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Thanks so much for this!  My address is:
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Signed up, I'm at LXaSbgrHThUrMUCECSji5R3mGs43qZdTja
Thanks mate.
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Let me try this out
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Thank you
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Thanks!
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Thank you
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Thanks  Cheesy
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Thank you very much
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Awesome. Thanks!
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You still giving free Litecoins?
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Free money FTW!!1
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Thanks
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28934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Want to sell 40,000 XRP Ripples for 1000 LTC on: March 03, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
jasinlee re-word your topic.

want to sell 40k xrp for 1000 LTC

which is asking people do they want to give you their xrp and be given 1000LTC in return

atleast put an I and you in the right places

if you still value xrp at those values i can fill you up with 50k more xrp in exchange for LTC at the rate you set Cheesy (giving me 1250LTC)  Cheesy

just to add another laughter moment to all this ripple trading.. easiest way to understand it is that a xrp is a blank cheque (check) or a postage stamp. its just the form of transportation of the actual things of value.

an XRP will just be like sending a piece of paper that says "dave owes debby 2BTC" and if dave actually has 2btc or daves friend trusts dave with 2BTC you would eventually get to withdraw your 2BTC via the person within the network.

ripple is just allowing you to do 40k transactions.. xrp are meaningless from a value point of view.

once people start trading their bitcoins for yen and it deducts 1 ripple from their holdings they will soon realise this.

but untill then carry on trying to think that ripple has a value.
28935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: March 03, 2013, 04:10:43 AM
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28936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Background checks on persons vital in the Bitcoin eco system ? on: March 02, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
herodes has got a valid point when it comes to long term investments. after all the bruce wagner and trendon shavers (pirate) ordeal.

my comments were for PRODUCT shops/complete transaction same day. But now i am replying on the bases of, if you are just going to hand someone else your money and think you can come back in 6 months and expect automatic profit with 0 risk, then even a dossier wont help you.

be prudent with your funds try not to leave them long term with other parties 'on trust' many people knew trendon's picture, met up with him, had his whole biography including home address.. and they still got stung. similar with bruce wagner.

invading peoples private lives wont protect your funds. but seeing they haven't even set up any legal business registration details or hiding behind proxies is a big neon sign to not even get involved.

as i said bitinstant, bitpay, walletbit, mtgox have given out legit business info and im happy to trade with them, even mtgox, BUT i would never throw my whole hoard of coins in their long term with ANY crypto company no matter the promises and life history they had.

its your money so set a daily usage limit and only play with that amount that day and withdraw it. no matter how trusted the guy is, don't use them like a institutional bank by them holding your money for you long term.

invading peoples personal lives, for the sake of lazyness and to shift the blame off you for not being careful with YOUR MONEY is a silly thing to do. especially when even after getting every detail of the guys family history, and after they scam you, you then want someone else to then take them to court. EG look at trendon shavers. no one has personally filed a court case against trendon.

there's to much "someone else should do it for me" mind set here.

so if anyone wants to have a dossier on anyone. DO IT YOURSELF. don't make it someone else's problem so that you can then not only blame the scammer but also blaming the guy providing the dossier for vouching for them as being legit.

do your own due diligence and look after your own money. don't rely on others. The big selling point of bitcoin for me is not that it can be anonymous. but the fact that IT IS MINE
28937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do I intordocue BitCoins into my community? on: March 02, 2013, 09:07:42 AM
the trouble with small communities facebook trading page is that they usually dont deliver goods through the post, they normally arrange to meet up at a central point or at each others house and pay cash, because they live so close. so the whole credit card/paypal fee argument is negligible.

there is a town in canada that uses a virtual currency based on 'time'. eg a worker can be paid fiat or convert the hour he worked into a 'hour's 'time' coupon which he then trades for other peoples products valued at a fair rate.

so researching how they successfully got their system operational is the start.


28938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Jokes, do you know any? on: March 02, 2013, 06:35:24 AM
some people say when the economy collapses everyone holding bitcoin will be laughing at those holding fiat.

well ill be holding a shotgun and a loaf of bread while everyone else lugs around worthless paper, computers and gold bars that wont satisfy an empty belly.

who's laughing now
28939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Background checks on persons vital in the Bitcoin eco system ? on: March 02, 2013, 06:22:04 AM
define vital?

if you mean the guys behind mtgox(coinlab), bitinstant. then kind of, yea because they are the ones holding the main bank accounts. i can agree that a legit business asking for fiat/bitcoins should be transparant. and im glad that we already know their names.

the same way we know that bill gates was behind microsoft and steve jobs was behind apple.

what i will say though is invading their private lives beyond their business by suggesting a whole dossier is required on them is a little extreme. as long as you have enough due diligence to compare a companies legal status in comparison to a bricks and mortar company such as apple/microsoft. it would settle any doubts about scams.

for those of you owning a iphone v1-v3. do you have a whole dossier on steve jobs? i bet you don't
for those of you owning an actual retail bough microsoft XP/ office 2003. do you have a dossier on bill gates? i bet you don't

ad why do i think you dont. its because they never hid themselves to the extent silk road does.

but if a company is hiding behind proxies, never to reveal real life info. just think to yourself, if they are legit, why need to hide?

i would say its time legit businesses (if there are any left in hiding) come out of hiding from proxy hidden domain who-is look up's. but i don't think i need to say it as there are not that many legit businesses that do hide, as they have no reason to.

and those that are not legit. EG S.R they have their reasons to stay hidden and you purchasing from them is your own risk.  so if you don't like S.R's secrecy. then don't use them.
(i never have or will, but thats because i have no need/use of them)

its not hard to find info on bitpay, walletbit, bitcoinstore, coinlab, bitcoincentral, mtgox, bitinstant and the many other actual legit businesses. so a dossier is not really needed any more then microsoft would need to produce a dossier for strangers it may never meet.

this is where BFL in 2011/2012 messed up. they started off in hiding, not revealing info about them.. that it caused people including the now famous josh Zerlan to wonder why all the secrecy from an apparent legit business that is asking for tonnes of cash.

so if your going to start a business that is going to be legit. don't "do a BFL", instead just be transparent about the business and you will find the truths you do reveal about the business will stop the stalkers trying to invade every little crumb of detail of your personal life. and will be satisfied by the honestly of the business information that is readily available through government databases and google searches without the requirement of expensive and time consuming stalker investigations/dossiers, thus avoiding any finger pointing.
28940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / bitinstant doing a great job in new Hampshire on: March 01, 2013, 11:14:49 PM
i am not sure if this has been posted before but the great guys at bitinstant doing their great stuff yet again at a bitcoin symposium/liberty forum in new hampshire recently

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