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3021  Economy / Lending / Re: 17.5 BTC Loan For a Month (Because I got scammed) - Will payback 20BTC on: September 29, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
$500 worth obv .. geez no need to go on a tangent there.

Yes I have proof .. my paycheck. Would you like me to post my paycheck here on a public forum along with my SSN?

Dude I'm not trying to hide anything. I got scammed with my friends money .. what more do ya want me to say? Christ.



Collateral. The rest is irrelevant.
3022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [BTC][many-alts][POOL][0.5%Prop.][3.2%PPS][hynodeva.com][pps each30min payout] on: September 29, 2013, 04:42:02 AM
Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /get.php.

Reason: Error reading from remote server


Attack again?

Still struggling to access this page.
3023  Economy / Lending / Re: 10 BTC Loan Needed - Australian Registered Verified Company - 30% for 2 weeks on: September 29, 2013, 01:09:15 AM
Unfortunately you can still default on the loan even if we know exactly who you are.  Lenders don't want to go through the hassle of suing you.  You're going to need to think of proper collateral. 

Also that link is just a landing page.  Undecided


What is acceptable collateral?

Yes I will provide corp documents to an interested lender which will show ownership.



So you won't provide a link?  Incorporation documents are public knowledge.

Acceptable collateral is anything that can easily be sold for $1500.



Sorry, provide a link to what?

Ok so to secure a loan, I need to post/ship something to the lender that can be used as collateral? What if I repay and the lender fails to return the collateral?

Seems like a catch 22 no matter what, right?

But you want the lender to take ALL the risk. You're trusting enough to take their coins but that's it. Do I have that correct?
3024  Economy / Lending / Re: 8.5BTC Loan Needed on: September 27, 2013, 07:02:58 PM
I know..... A lot asking from a newbie. I need the BTC for a new computer, I'm typing this on my Android tablet, and as nice as the tablet is, I need a computer.
I get paid next week and will repay with 9 coins, I'm willing to negotiate the repayment.

I need them by 6:30PM CST.



Thanks,
Bitmin1991.

What do you have for collateral that exceeds your loan request?

I know It's not "much", but both my tablet and iPhone. Lender can resell both on eBay for the amount of the loan. If I don't pay it back, which is very unlikely (hate scammers), they'll be heading your way. My repayment date is the 1st of October, if not earlier.

@peonminer: So every newbie is a scammer?

Sell them yourself to fund your PC or wait. I would suggest reading the Loan section on how collateral works. This has been covered scores of times.
3025  Economy / Lending / Re: 8.5BTC Loan Needed on: September 27, 2013, 06:45:37 PM
I know..... A lot asking from a newbie. I need the BTC for a new computer, I'm typing this on my Android tablet, and as nice as the tablet is, I need a computer.
I get paid next week and will repay with 9 coins, I'm willing to negotiate the repayment.

I need them by 6:30PM CST.



Thanks,
Bitmin1991.

What do you have for collateral that exceeds your loan request?
3026  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives? on: September 27, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Let me quote the email which I sent to the owner, TradeFortress, a few minutes ago about how whiskchat.com is not working with it:
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First, you nearly lose me all my money [through a bug in the API]. Then, you change your IP. Now, you're not letting API requests get through, because WhiskChat uses a very dynamic IP and "whitelisting" doesn't cut it.
I've had enough: I simply want to stop using your service.
...(snip)... replacing Inputs with something better (bitcoind?), unless you can fix your service.

Anyone have any good alternatives to Inputs.io that are reliable? Coinbase seems nice. (warning, that link is a shameless referral link)

Reason for self-moderation: Deleting spam replies. Deleted replies will be posted below, or acknowledged.

Interesting, I usually have all the odd stuff happen to me but I am having no issues logging in.
3027  Economy / Lending / Re: 17.5 BTC Loan For a Month (Because I got scammed) - Will payback 20BTC on: September 26, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
Your best bet is to get a loan on your Jeep. Easier, quicker and safer for everyone involved.

I understand what you're saying, but there is a lot of fees and everything involved with it. Not to mention the time and stress. And they ship away your title and I think you have to pay extra to get it back.

The 2.5btc interest I'm paying here is looking better for me personally. I'm not saying it's in anyway beneficial to the possible lenders, but that's up to them.

I'm just putting it out there. A "Shot in the dark" if you will.

Thanks for chiming in though -- It's very possible I may do that.

Drive to bank or other institution.
See loan officer.
Get approved or not.
Approved, they hold your title, you keep possession of Jeep.
Disapproved: You= Sad
Loan paid off, you get title back and a nice boost on your credit score. I have never been charged to get a title released.
30 minute ordeal from the time you see the loan officer.
Faster and easier than trying to get a BTC loan.


3028  Economy / Lending / Re: 17.5 BTC Loan For a Month (Because I got scammed) - Will payback 20BTC on: September 26, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
And still, this is just money you are playing with.
Just don't play for 2 months, and you're back on track. Right ?

All I'm saying is it' very possible for me to pay this back and make somebody money. That's what my goal of posting is here was:
- Quick and reputable loan
- Make somebody money

Your word is not a guarantee, and your jeep is not worth enough.  Undecided

For what it's worth I just did a KBB on it .. It's worth 3500.

So to a dealer wholesaled it would be 1500 (still not 2k, but it depend on the dealer) .. a private party much more.

Are you proposing borrowing Bitcoins or cash? There is a difference, after all...

Scenario 1) You borrow 17.5 BTC at $135 each and intend to replay $2362.5 upon the due date, regardless of what the price of Bitcoin does (ie, if the price of bitcoin fals, you repay many more BTC than your borrowed, andif the price of BTC spikes, you repay the loan by buying fewer Bitcoins than you received in the first place.

Scenario 2) you borrow 17.5 BTC and intend to reoay the loan by transferring 17.5 BTC back to the lender, without regard for the price (ie; if the USD/BTC exchange rate goes to $270, you would be paying back twice as much on a dollar denominated basis, or if BTC falls to $67.50, you'd be repaying half as much on a dollar basis.

Either is fine, but should be disclosed. If you're seeking something akin to Scenario 1, I would make it clear that you're trying to borrow cash and intend to repay cash, with Bitcoin jut there as the means to transmit value. If you're envisioning the second scenario, one might ask what your plan to repay will look like should Bitcoin double in price during the time the loan sis outstanding.

Good question.

I'm asking to borrow 17.5 btc. I'm never going to cash these out .. They are just send to the current guy I'm looking to pay.

NOW for paying back - I would prefer to pay back in BTC. Keep things simple. If you would prefer me paying you back in cash or maybe half cash and half coins .. I'd be open to that as well.

I understand that from the point in time I borrow the coins to when I'm looking to repay COULD double. So I would have to buy them at possibly double the value -- that would indeed suck, but keep in mind I'm planning on paying 5btc per week.

Example (and planned payment dates):
September 27 (tomorrow) - 5btc
October 4 - 5 btc
October 11 - 5 btc
October 18 - 5 btc

Make sense?

And yes, by tomorrow I technically only need 15 btc if I purchase 5 tomorrow.

Your best bet is to get a loan on your Jeep. Easier, quicker and safer for everyone involved.
3029  Economy / Lending / Re: 17.5 BTC Loan For a Month (Because I got scammed) - Will payback 20BTC on: September 26, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
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It's very possible I might do this, but doesn't this mean they would own the car?

If it's paid off, try to get a loan on the vehicle. They will hold the title until paid off.
3030  Economy / Lending / Re: 17.5 BTC Loan For a Month (Because I got scammed) - Will payback 20BTC on: September 26, 2013, 03:51:02 PM
Sorry for the bad luck. Unless you sign over the title to the lender or place in escrow, it's not collateral. Do you offer anything else that would be easy to resell and cheap to send to the lender?
3031  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS Intel Core i7 4770 Quad Core Processor: 3.4GHz, 8MB L3 Cache, On-Chip Graphi on: September 25, 2013, 05:28:22 PM
Beware of this seller. He sells on Bitmit, will sell items out from under you during an auction giving you lame, suspect excuses. "Seller" won't honor his own prices either, I am 0-2 with this "seller". Man up.
3032  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a 24 hr loan for 1-1.5 BTC. on: September 25, 2013, 12:10:05 PM
I can loan you ~1.5 BTC in fiat money using Paypal.

1. I will send you $150 dollar.
2. You pay me back $150 + 5% ($7.5) + $15 flat = $172.5 within 48 hours as a "GIFT".

It is important you send it back as a Gift as you don't need to be able to file a dispute when sending the money back.

I have two questions for you:
1. How are you able to pay me back after 24 hours?
2. What do you offer when you are not able to pay me back within 48 hours?





Gift funded via CC can result in a charge back. Claims of hacking or identity theft can have the same results.
3033  Economy / Lending / Re: Request 40 btc @ 14.5% through btcjam: refinance KNC Saturn from CC to BTC on: September 25, 2013, 05:10:04 AM
But that would defeat the purpose of the 6 months of hosting I paid for Smiley

If I emailed KNC miner about adding the third party escrow to the account and have the future shipping address changed to their address, would that be suitable?

Or is there no good way to go about this while retaining the hosting package with KNC?



No. In case of default you could yell fraud, hackers or whatever. When you buy a car on credit, the title stays with the place that did the loan. In a default situation, they repossess your car. They also run a credit check beforehand to see if you even qualify for the loan. Your credit score takes a huge hit once a loan is defaulted and you can/will be sued or wages garnished to satisfy the loan obligation. None of these protections will be in place for your loan.
Do you have something of greater than loan value you would ship to the lender to hold?
3034  Economy / Lending / Re: Request 40 btc @ 2% through btcjam: refinance KNC Saturn from CC to BTC on: September 25, 2013, 04:17:04 AM
are you saying that what i described doesn't fit the definition of collateral?

or

that it doesn't hold enough value to be collateral?

You can't hold the collateral on your own loan or it isn't collateral. Collateral usually needs to exceed the value of the loan to be a worthwhile risk.
3035  Economy / Lending / Re: Request 40 btc @ 2% through btcjam: refinance KNC Saturn from CC to BTC on: September 25, 2013, 03:43:32 AM
Only if I default on the loan:
-While hosted, The miner and hosting account will be transferred to the lender(s)
-After 6 months, the miner will be sent to the lender(s)

Sorry but that isn't collateral.
3036  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTS 6 BTC FOR VERIFIED PPUSD on: September 23, 2013, 04:54:46 PM
I warned everyone this guy was a scammer, but no one listened!!!

This is Sublimes second account as I stated earlier on. Sublime is also a scammer, they gave me a negative trust rating to big up their own shit scam services, don't worry though I will sort that Sublime out, I have his eBay account which means I have more details on him.

Well done as well to all the assholes who thought it would be wise to side with Sublime, you can pat yourself on the back for playing a part in this scam.

Sorry to hear you got scammed mate, should have come to me. I would have sold you bitcoins through PayPal.

As I said earlier feedback on this forum means JACK SHIT!! Never go first just because some asshole has more feedback, fuck Sublime aka Biglabs!

Also beware sublime has more accounts which he will use for scamming. Where are the mods on this forum??

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Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.
3037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [BTC][many-alts][POOL][0.5%Prop.][3.2%PPS][hynodeva.com][pps each30min payout] on: September 23, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /get.php.

Reason: Error reading from remote server


Attack again?
3038  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Would you trust paypal? on: September 23, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Selling a lot of Singles and because John K escrow is impossible to contact due to how busy he is, I am considering paypal.

Is this a bad idea?  Even if it is from verified users?

There are still a few trustworthy people out there to handle your escrow.
3039  Economy / Lending / Re: .10 loan on: September 22, 2013, 11:29:56 PM
Sent, also added 1 large pizza and cheese bread.  Grin
3040  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending with Lawyers on: September 22, 2013, 01:18:58 AM
Couldn't resist  Grin

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