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3621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
Anyone with a level head would read this and notice the glaring lack of research and round-about way it talks about bitcoin using explanations only bitcoiners use. It screams fake.
Exactly! It's the 21st century. They totally release a fake fake document to "crowd-source" their research. Cheesy

Lol +1
3622  Economy / Services / Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER! on: May 08, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?
Someone may have put an ad on Facebook application. List shows always only the domain, even if the ad is on ex. mydomain.com/mycoolhomepage/  Smiley Anyway, new partner page is coming soon.

Cool!
3623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
Anyone with a level head would read this and notice the glaring lack of research and round-about way it talks about bitcoin using explanations only bitcoiners use. It screams fake. Everything down to the style it's made in. The very fact that a document in 2008 looked similiar should be proof enough considering the FBI doesn't keep the same style of letterheads for 4 years.

Look at how they talk about Silk Road research. Look at how it sounds like a fanboy masturbating to himself while he pretends to be a cop. FBI doesn't talk like this. FBI doesn't care. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's an elaborate troll to present some kind of legitimacy of Bitcoin so that the price changes.

There are no sources for this document, no trail, etc. It is not recognized by anyone other than a dude on a forum someplace? Give me a break. Have the person who actually retrieved this file swear an affidavit and we'll protect them through freedom of the press laws in the UK. Anything else is just a bunch of nonsense and I'm disappointed to see such a large group of people falling for it. I thought you guys were smarter than this.
3624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 09:18:38 AM
You guys crack me up. You're already referencing it as "the FBI report". What a fail community. Excuse me while I go make another FBI report.

"Oops! it leaked! What do you guys think? Ignore the links to Bitcoin Magazine on the poster's status. I don't know how that got there"
3625  Economy / Services / Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER! on: May 08, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?

Go to facebook.com
You'll see that facebook placed a giant bitcoinAdvertisers Ad on their homepage.
I think Google will do the same.

If you mean that Andrew paid Facebook for some advertising space for bitcoinadvertisers.com, that's understandable (although I have yet to see any) but I don't think that qualifies anyone as a "partner" or else I'd be a partner of Walmart for buying a gift card.
3626  Economy / Services / Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER! on: May 08, 2012, 07:40:39 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?
3627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 07:31:19 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/92797476/FBI-Bitcoin-Report-April-2012

Holy smokes!  Very interesting, what do you guys think?

I've already given my opinion on the style of the document and how I think someone in this community made it with one hand while jacking off with the other, but now I question your intentions.

Quote
FBI Bitcoin Report April 2012
Best bitcoin advertising service http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/ Best bitcoin news service http://coinbits.com/

Obviously you uploaded this document yourself, so you're the one who obtained it. Care to share your source?
3628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 07:27:46 AM
In contrast to any other publication from the FBI:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications

Why does everyone assume that a troll would only be trolling if it said the FBI was against Bitcoin? It'd be twice as funny to pretend it wasn't.
3629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 06:29:32 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/92797476/FBI-Bitcoin-Report-April-2012

Holy smokes!  Very interesting, what do you guys think?

rofl. It's on the internet so it must be true.

This is one of the ugliest/laziest trolls I've seen in a long time.

I wouldn't be so sure it's a troll... Seems pretty realistic to me.
I'm more sure of you being a troll than that PDF being one.

Look at the horrible quality (not the image quality, the horrible design). Since when does the FBI release private information like this, much less in such a horrible design? This is a 12 year old's copypasta in Word.
3630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 05:38:15 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/92797476/FBI-Bitcoin-Report-April-2012

Holy smokes!  Very interesting, what do you guys think?

rofl. It's on the internet so it must be true.

This is one of the ugliest/laziest trolls I've seen in a long time.
3631  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin ATM code is now officially an open source effort. on: May 08, 2012, 05:34:13 AM
I actually sent Todd a private PM yesterday? about removing the info he posted and hopefully he will comply but it looks like its too late.

Reddacted.
3632  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Inquiring] Selling PHPCO.IN on: May 08, 2012, 04:34:00 AM
I have to retract my bid of One million daollrs. It was made almost a minute ago, no longer want the domain + there have been changes in the US economy since then.
Well Blazr did have the ability to withdraw his/her bid because I wasn't selling it at the time.

That's okay. I didn't tell you what kind of dollars I'll pay in. I think I'll use sand dollars.
3633  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Inquiring] Selling PHPCO.IN on: May 08, 2012, 04:31:58 AM
I have to retract my bid of One million daollrs. It was made almost a minute ago, no longer want the domain + there have been changes in the US economy since then.
3634  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Inquiring] Selling PHPCO.IN on: May 08, 2012, 04:29:52 AM
One million dollars.
3635  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Bitscalper under new management. on: May 08, 2012, 04:18:17 AM
Nachtwind, I'll agree with you only if you agree that when you get cancer, it's going to be your own fault.
Just as when bitcoin reports it's first series of murders, it will be derived by the cancerous speaking portion of this so called facade of a community to be their fault for indeed getting murdered.

Apples and oranges.

You got suckered by Bitscalper and lost, despite everyone (including myself) warning you to stop.

Your arrogance kept you pushing on like a fucking retarded child.

You got burned horribly bad and desperate to reclaim some of your losses, you hopped on the bandwagon when MiningBuddy said he would try to take over the arbitrage site.

IF MiningBuddy takes responsibility for all of Bitscalper's debt (which is fucking retarded and I don't know what he's thinking), then I will stand right beside you when MiningBuddy doesn't pay. IF MiningBuddy is just taking over the site to try to make money back, then you still only have two people to blame---


1) Yourself for being so goddamn gullible
2) Bitscalper for being the garbage he is

3636  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin ATM code is now officially an open source effort. on: May 08, 2012, 01:40:37 AM

It seems like you really like spamming your information, but I honestly have to wonder-- do the developers you mentioned above appreciate you posting their cell phone numbers without their permission?
3637  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitcoin Savings and Trust is probably a Ponzi Scheme: A Petition on: May 07, 2012, 06:16:01 PM
Of course we do not want to support shady, anonymous and opaque shit as a community. It is for that reason that I did not invest in bitscalper. Bitscalper refused to reveal his identity  while running an arbitrage service where he held onto large amounts of bitcoins. This was quite clearly a scam. Pirate on the other hand has willingly given his identity to his customers. Further he has given his customers a basic explanation of how the business works: selling bitcoins locally to people who do not wish to use the established exchanges. As a customer I am perfectly happy with this explanation. I do not require a detailed audit of his transactions or a play-by-play run down of everything he does in order to trust him with my bitcoins.

Thank you for the information. I was not aware that Pirate had already disclosed details of his operation and am now beginning to think the people calling it a ponzi are just jelly.


Matthew, I have to say that for a 4,000+ Post Member of this forum, I find it difficult to believe that you have never attempted to find out who Pirate actually is....?

All of his personal information is quite readily available to anyone willing to do the legwork if not satisfied with the basics.


I've stayed far away from lending/investments/alt coins/gambling on this forum until recently.
3638  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitcoin Savings and Trust is probably a Ponzi Scheme: A Petition on: May 07, 2012, 04:31:53 PM
Of course we do not want to support shady, anonymous and opaque shit as a community. It is for that reason that I did not invest in bitscalper. Bitscalper refused to reveal his identity  while running an arbitrage service where he held onto large amounts of bitcoins. This was quite clearly a scam. Pirate on the other hand has willingly given his identity to his customers. Further he has given his customers a basic explanation of how the business works: selling bitcoins locally to people who do not wish to use the established exchanges. As a customer I am perfectly happy with this explanation. I do not require a detailed audit of his transactions or a play-by-play run down of everything he does in order to trust him with my bitcoins.

Thank you for the information. I was not aware that Pirate had already disclosed details of his operation and am now beginning to think the people calling it a ponzi are just jelly.
3639  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitcoin Savings and Trust is probably a Ponzi Scheme: A Petition on: May 07, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
But with that said, it seems that you are against this secrecy that is here.
Secrecy towards investors is nonsensical. "Here's a paycheck, don't ask where it came from."

So, I must ask, if you are against it, should Funding sources for ventures be transparent also?
Aren't they usually transparent? I'm at a loss for how this is related to telling investors how they are earning money on their investments.

some people like to remain anonymous in supporting ventures the will help the community.
So let them remain anonymous, but tell everyone that someone contributed. Saying "This money is here and don't ask how" is not a confidence builder.

When I read this, I found your statement ironic considering ALL the people that have benefited from Pirates venture.
I guess indirectly I have too, like if someone used their profit to buy a Bitcoin magazine or something, but that doesn't mean the investments are safe or that I would personally approve of investments that don't disclose details of the investment.

If evidence or actions comes to light, then lets talk.
I agree, but I still say this level of opaqueness is visible only in the mafia.
3640  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitcoin Savings and Trust is probably a Ponzi Scheme: A Petition on: May 07, 2012, 01:21:24 PM
I don't know why anyone is even bothering to argue about this. Investments that aren't illegal or ponzi's have basic disclosures of activity. Show me where any of these disclosures are for any of the investments in Bitcoin? I'd say at this point 100% of the so-called investment schemes in Bitcoin are ponzi-like.

Vladimir's the only person I know so far (let me know if anyone else has done this for investments as I'm not sure how many others there are) who's actually taken things to the next level and gotten a formal investment disclosure in place for the ASIC bunker. This is the kind of crap that reflects poorly on all of us. Nobody talks about how the value of Bitcoin has risen since inception. Nobody talks about Bitcoin's usability. They talk about all the retarded, repeated scams and gullible suckers who will defend their investments in shady and opaque operations "because bitcoin".

We've had mining operators run out with the hardware or others claim that they got stolen, we've had online wallets claim to be hacked, we've got downright ponzis pretend to be arbitrage only to build half-assed arbitrage after-the-fact in order to save face. I've said this before during the BitScalper fiasco and I'll say it again:

Do we really want to support shady, anonymous and opaque shit as a community? If so, please provide a list of benefits of doing so, because in the world I come from, it only represents risk.
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