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3801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs on: April 23, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
It's great to see that the magazine will really be shipping "soon". I remember on Feb 9th, 2012 when I paid for the first issue that it would be shipping "soon". It's great to see how much progress has been made. Wait a minute . . . there hasn't been any progress. Forget it. Go back to mining, trading, arbitrage, alt coins etc.

Thats the bottom line.  If nothing was paid for in advance nobody would complain ( ok , there probably would be some trolls that would complain even then Smiley   )


Heard loud and clear. You'll have the news you're looking for this week.  Wink
3802  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Jered Kenna and 'scammer' tag? on: April 23, 2012, 11:22:55 AM


If you said "that dirty mother fucking lowlife lemonade stand owner" then you should stop breathing now.

Did you see this:

"The only case where I can imagine something like the above logic applying is if the funds were stolen... "

I was replying to the bankruptcy argument above.

Sure! I should have clarified that I wasn't really directing it at you, but more at people in general for jumping into the lynch mob.

If people really want someone to lynch, they need to lynch their friends and family for making mtGox so big and making it a single point of failure in the bitcoin economy.
3803  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Jered Kenna and 'scammer' tag? on: April 23, 2012, 11:04:08 AM
User's funds in exchanges are not supposed to vanish just  because an exchange's own financial situation changes.
You're selling lemonade. You take the customer's money, and a robber runs by and takes your lemonade and the customer's money. You have no money and no product so you have to shut down. The police know who the robber's friends are, but they say that they don't want to take responsibility. The lemonade stand is a victim of theft.

Who should pay?


If you said "the robber", you're right! And that's why Tradehill is going to court.

If you said "that dirty mother fucking lowlife lemonade stand owner" then you should stop breathing now.
3804  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin pawns MintChip by being opensource. MintChip flaw already found? on: April 23, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
grab positive attention from non-bitcoiners, they'll be more understanding of a mere 3 months of development on something that has a chance to bring Bitcoin to new heights.
What about the community who already does use bitcoin. Don't they matter?

In what respect? I'm positive if you asked every Bitcoiner "what's the best thing for Bitcoin right now?" they would all respond "More adoption".

Yeah man, MORE ADOPTION, MORE BTC HOLDERS, MORE DEMAND, HIGHER PRICES, BIGGER BUBBLES!!!!!1111111

Those of us involved in bitcoin for its utility don't care about the spot price, we care about who we can send it to and who can send it to us. If everyone in the world was using Bitcoin, I still wouldn't think that $100 a coin is even remotely accurate. I think Bitcoin is worth about $2-3 probably.
3805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs on: April 23, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
Since my comment has been erased from the online edition of the magazine, I have no other choice but to post here about the "newbies" review of wallet options.
One again, I am writing this because the reviewer is using the name of the service my colleagues and I have decided to offer to the bitcoin community for free, namely instawallet, as title to his review.

He is citing as "disadvantages" the following:
 "You have to trust the provider not to be careless or malicious" Isn't it true of just ANY third party provider ?
When I am using the bitcoin client I am trusting the developers to be  not malicious nor careless.

It's an OPTION offered to everyone, not an obligation nor a "disadvantage", unless you ASSUME the provider to be careless, which in our case is totally unjustified
.
A review is not supposed to qualify as "disadvantages", options that are offered to users.
Otherwise, he could just by the same logic qualify as a "disadvantage" the option to control one's own keys because EVERYBODY can be careless at times in handling them.


I have no idea why your comment was deleted if it indeed was, because commenting on the article page is the correct way to dispute issues with an article and its contents. It allows not only the author of the article but the community to know the truth and allows everyone to react accordingly with the correct information.

That said, I am not entirely sure what you are arguing here, although I understand if your comment was removed for some reason that you would want to voice your opinion in this thread. Can you create another thread of discussion about this and post the link here? I would also like to get to the bottom of this and most importantly I would like to find out what exactly it is you're talking about.


EDIT:


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[8:21:53 PM] Vitalik Buterin: [...] changed to "You have to trust the provider not to be careless or malicious to a much greater extent than any other solution, since no one can audit any code and the provider (or someone hacking the provider) can potentially decide to run away with everyone’s funds at a moment’s notice"


EDIT 2: Apparently the article had to be reformatted at one point (probably due to the translations we are adding) and it caused all comments to be removed (not just yours).
3806  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations on: April 23, 2012, 10:17:22 AM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?

 Huh   did anything happen last week?

US Tax day.
3807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs on: April 23, 2012, 08:03:12 AM
Just kidding. I don't know why I am trolling you so hard. Anyways, good luck with the edition.

Appreciate it. We're very excited about this week finally coming.
3808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin pawns MintChip by being opensource. MintChip flaw already found? on: April 23, 2012, 07:51:22 AM
grab positive attention from non-bitcoiners, they'll be more understanding of a mere 3 months of development on something that has a chance to bring Bitcoin to new heights.
What about the community who already does use bitcoin. Don't they matter?

In what respect? I'm positive if you asked every Bitcoin "what's the best thing for Bitcoin right now?" they would all respond "More adoption".

Definitely. Still though, we want some good old fashion instant gratification from your magazine.

For bitcoin fans, I'm confident our magazine will be orgasm inducing. The wait can be attributed to the finishing touches that allow it to cuddle with you afterwards.
3809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin pawns MintChip by being opensource. MintChip flaw already found? on: April 23, 2012, 07:46:01 AM
grab positive attention from non-bitcoiners, they'll be more understanding of a mere 3 months of development on something that has a chance to bring Bitcoin to new heights.
What about the community who already does use bitcoin. Don't they matter?

In what respect? I'm positive if you asked every Bitcoiner "what's the best thing for Bitcoin right now?" they would all respond "More adoption".
3810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs on: April 23, 2012, 07:44:23 AM
We represented a community in the thousands, similar to the amount of hardcore Bitcoin users.
Awesome! How many pages did you work? Our magazine started out at 64 originally but we've already boosted it up to 100. If you're interested and I can see some of your previous work, I'd welcome the assistance of those whom have experience in publishing periodicals.

And To be honest Matthew, I do not see why you feel the need to create 'the best goddamn magazine ever to be released using complex and powerful imagery backed by a slow moving beaurcracy (editoral board) that can't decide whether to which socks to wear in the morning' type of issue.
Because it's not a two-bit fanzine full of circle jerking, but a periodical intended to bring some balance to the issues of Bitcoin in the outside world.

Some concessions need to be made if you wish to meet your deadlines.
We're not discussing deadlines, we're discussing a first release. We wouldn't be late on deadlines. I hate that it's taken so long to get the first release out, but as I mentioned, you'll get your news this week.  Cheesy
3811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations on: April 23, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?
3812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs on: April 23, 2012, 07:28:47 AM
I do not see how this can be so difficult. I was an editor on bi-weekly school newspaper for two years and we met our deadlines. Granted we had our infrastructure in place, but it still boggles me how delayed this has project has become.

Did your school newspaper represent the entirety of Bitcoin to the world, have articles that needed to be cleared by an editorial board, have an art team designing complex and powerful imagery around the context of the articles, and change the majority of your staff twice the way into it?

Anyone who has run a magazine knows what's happened and are happy we're past the rougher parts. Since everything is finally coming together to a level of quality that myself and the other 20+ individuals associated with the magazine at various professional roles are willing to stand behind, I'll have the news everyone is looking for this week.

I think it's very important to note that the speed of our work has absolutely nothing to do with trolling the forums. We produce quality based on our integrity, not the loud voices of a few obnoxious trolls. This magazine has an opportunity to bring Bitcoin to everyone. Why anyone would want to rush through the process (not talking about you BitAvenue) haphazardly just proves to me how far detached from reality this forum is sometimes.
3813  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Jered Kenna and 'scammer' tag? on: April 23, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
Sorry man. Until the last person gets their money/btc, he's a scammer.

If she floats, she's a witch.
3814  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin pawns MintChip by being opensource. MintChip flaw already found? on: April 23, 2012, 06:37:47 AM
Put it into perspective. With the large amount of money they invested without doing any research, I don't think they're slow to respond so much as they are dumb-struck and panicked at the realization of how big of a failure it is. Any expectations of a response that would acknowledge their failure is nothing more than day-dreaming.

You talking about Bitcoin Magazine or...?

MintChip failed before it started because it doesn't solve the real problem with currency, it just makes it easier to do the horrible things they already do and gives them more scapegoats to throw blame on in the process.

Bitcoin Magazine "late" as it is, succeeds by not throwing the entire community under a bus through poor representation to the outside world, something the majority of bitcoin businesses fail miserably at.

MintChip obviously spent a lot of money on their design, branding, marketing, and technology, and is an interesting starter experiment that will end up promoting Bitcoin more than Bitcoin could on its own probably, due to its superior image and quality.

When the community starts realizing that half-assed Coineer style bake sale newsletters don't grab positive attention from non-bitcoiners, they'll be more understanding of a mere 3 months of development on something that has a chance to bring Bitcoin to new heights.

3815  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are my bitcoins done for?! on: April 23, 2012, 05:57:23 AM
With no fee, it will take longer. Maybe even an entire day. I can't tell you why it didn't ask for a fee, but no you cannot add a fee after the fact; what's done is done.

You just need to sit it out and wait.
3816  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Jered Kenna and 'scammer' tag? on: April 23, 2012, 05:46:31 AM
Do you guys have any idea of the scale TradeHill was running at? They had at least several hundred thousand accounts, based on the referral codes I've seen. Now, imagine having to lay off your entire staff that was already overworked with the daily running of the business, and then having handle all of the payouts by yourself.

It could seriously take all year.

Seconded.

Anyone who thinks a major exchange's laundry is done as easily as your own has never run a business before.

I also wonder if there are people here who somehow than that Jered operated Tradehill in his own name out of his garage or something. He technically could just file TRADEHILL for bankruptcy and be done with it.
3817  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are my bitcoins done for?! on: April 23, 2012, 05:42:25 AM
Hey guys, I just sent a transaction for 342BTC out of a wallet from a new account. I thought it would prompt me for a fee like it did the first time I sent something from that wallet, but it didn't. So, now I'm afraid this transaction will get lost and never go into the next block chain. Is there anything I can do to try to get it to go through? Please help, I'm really stressing out right now. Thanks.

Not all transactions (especially ones of that size) will require a fee. Check blockchain.info with your address to confirm that the bitcoins were sent and received.
3818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin pawns MintChip by being opensource. MintChip flaw already found? on: April 23, 2012, 05:37:38 AM
The admins are slow to respond to these things.

http://mintchipchallenge.com/forum_topics/925

Put it into perspective. With the large amount of money they invested without doing any research, I don't think they're slow to respond so much as they are dumb-struck and panicked at the realization of how big of a failure it is. Any expectations of a response that would acknowledge their failure is nothing more than day-dreaming.
3819  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Little Pony megathread :D on: April 23, 2012, 05:07:29 AM
This thread is running dangerously low on pony.



My feelings on My Little Pony®.

3820  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] Special CoinAd space #3 on: April 23, 2012, 05:01:31 AM


Well that doesn't seem fair to direct visitors against clicking on the ad space.
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