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Howza about we let Risto decide what is appropriate in his thread?
Like in browsing the Internet itself, I often find interesting or useful information that *apparently* is off-topic.
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So, prophetx, what do you predict? $1500 for BTC when Wave 5 is through (say, this summer)? Spell it out for us. If we reach a number like that, my respect for TA will go up!
All the religion and hocus pocus in the world will not prevent btc from reaching a new ATH... If I had to guess I think it will go $2300 or so on the next major pump..... And then retreat back to the safety of $1800 or so.... Buy whatever you can afford and then just relax... You can't predict exact times and dates in a market as craxy as this one.... Just buy, relax and enjoy your gainz, there is no stress free option unfortunately... |
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i dont know why you guys so worried about other coin progress  i thought this is monero's thread ? so what if Dash reach monero's marketcap, what would you do ? cry some more... fud some more ? Probably nothing... My Monero stash is worth significiantly more than it was when I invested into it initially so I am not hurting (hundreds of percents since I was in since the early Poloniex days). I am more worried about the currency competition point of view. There is no room for more than 1 anonymous currency (in my opinion) and it is better be Monero, isn't it. Xmr and sdc are the best private coins I think the dark will be a pump dump n without serious legs I wouldn't even buy it as a hedge and the market has decided xmr is better than dash |
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why not, actually more socially active than XPM, ain't that prime?
this is a worthwhile project ,would be good if we got some more people interested and get a bit of a buzz going again .....used to be lively when it was on POLO for awhile |
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It would be much lesser in value. When I purchased my smartphone the price of bitcoin was 1000$ and so if I did not purchased my smartphones I would have lost 300$ at this point of time. But btc is now moving up and I am waiting for it to increase more and hope it will go back to 1000$ so my earned bitcoins at this moment will have more interest.
you just need to wait a bit longer  check again in a couple of years the smartphone you have now will be on some scrapheap and the bitcoin will likely be $5000-10,000 |
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Prepare for free fall guys. The manipulators have taken enough of your money for now and will let the price plummet again to 300-500 levels in order to play the same game all over again.
Anyone thinking this is a free market is delusional. 99% of all coins owned by 5 people lol.
And who are these 5 people and if you knew this much you can very well provide their names as well,with this thread it looks like you are delusional to the core ,manipulation in a market is a regular occurrence and traders like to cash in the maximum during these times and even if the price of the coin touches rock bottom traders will find a way to earn money from it. I don't think the current trends are price manipulation. It is pure, unadulterated, free market. Price manipulation is illegal and could land you in jail if proven in a court of law. well price manipulation could land you in jail if it is about stock markets or any other regulated market. But Bitcoin is not regulated so i think who ever is into manipulation of bitcoin prices will not get into any trouble even if he admit to it Phil G Potter (the coo of BitFinex) admitted in an interview to what would be considered insider trading in any regulated market he maybe have been drunk or something and then he tried to say it doesnt matter because hes a whale and bla bla bla ....... those guys should be in jail already but theyre laughing sitting on that giant pile of stolen btc they refuse to talk to the fbi about.... |
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Is this the right time to buy bitcoin? As of this moment, bitcoin is at $769, almost where it began to rise and went pass $1100.
So is the current value where it will stay on average? I mean it can go down or up but on average do you think it will remain close to this value? If yes, then I'd assume its the best time to purchase some bitcoin.
Your thoughts?
In February it will be $2000 so buy ASAP.... I think impossible if February can reach $ 2,000. we have a realistic, but I agree that may currently is currently the best to buy bitcoin, as the price now will never happen again. watch ,listen and learn Gentlemen ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVAI07f-5M0 |
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So, someone just stated in the Polo trollbox that CoinBase had announce Monero support which has started a nice little uptick in pricing. I can't find any evidence to prove it so, I'm sure it was someone just talking their book.
Anyway, the question I have is if/when they do add USD/XMR pair how many Monero will they have to have on hand in inventory to even start trading? I would think it would be substantial, so shouldn't we expect that they are looking to accumulate now or at least soon if they haven't already started?
Thoughts?
I'd be very surprised if Coinbase announced XMR adoption now, and at least for a few more months. They would be advised to ride the downtrend to find the bottom and accumulate accordingly. Gut feeling says that Monero and Litecoin will be announced together, probably in March sometime. XMR & LTC on Coinbase? Do you have any proof of this? Fluffypony went to coinbase last week ,i doubt it was for no reason |
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Today i went through an article published on a website claiming that a report published by a Denmark-based Saxo bank has forecasted the bitcoin price to leap upto 165% or $2000 in 2017 beacause of economic stimulus and aggressive fiscal spendings by Newly elected U.S President Donald Trump. What does you guys think?
Indeed, theres a big possibility that bitcoin could leap to 2000$ price or even higher by this year. Not only by the help of that news but rather more and more companies are accepting bitcoin and investing into it. around one third of tech companies in the uk have bought some btc just in case they get hit by ransomware and need to pay ASAP 2000 will certaintly be broken in 2017 |
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Did bitbet ever do the right thing and return the coins to this customer ?
i almost made a large bet but luckily i saw this thread .......
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I feel Bitcoin is a crazy strong buy at <800. It is just not going away. What is the downside? Umm.. going to $500 (-38%) and retaining the unexpiring call? What's the upside immediately? $3000 (+275%) and even more in 12 months' time. Just my 2 cents.
I have to agree, btc for ~800 is a steal..... Most people will look back and wish they bought more after March /April Just a few short weeks to go gentlemen! |
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Etherium cannot be held as the price always goes down with massive inflation, supply and pos.
ETH is looking a lot healthier than etC Bitpop, is this really the best way you can use your time? |
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Thanks to all trolls for quoting me about ZCoin! ESpecially that one who posted all the tech information about it! Cya!
Gtfo you Ztrash shill cunt... This thread is all about Honeypony!  |
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Is this the right time to buy bitcoin? As of this moment, bitcoin is at $769, almost where it began to rise and went pass $1100.
So is the current value where it will stay on average? I mean it can go down or up but on average do you think it will remain close to this value? If yes, then I'd assume its the best time to purchase some bitcoin.
Your thoughts?
In February it will be $2000 so buy ASAP.... |
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Yes we will break 2000$ mark one day, but not this year. I assume we will be near that mark on next halving which is for 3 and a half years from now. Before that only some miracle need to happen to we see that jump on 2000 and more dollars.
Segwit is not even near to be activated, who will know will it be activated in some time and even if activated can that boost price so much.
you should familiarise yourself with clif high : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVAI07f-5M0 |
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if we get to break that 1165$ ath and get to have an stable sell/buy at those prices then literally the moon is the limit. We are not that far from that price and we actually got to it a couple weeks ago, the thing is we couldn't maintain it.
next time we will maintain it because the coins willl be in stronger hands who will not panic like little bitches when it goes to 1200...... even the coins i bought for $3 i wont be selling under 10k |
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Xmr is still in my opinion the best privacy coin,followed by SDC DASH is flawed and zcash is a scam (imo) We may retrace a bit for now but I think $50 by the summer is realistic so stay calm and hodl  You forgot about ZCoin. i didnt forget ,i just dont rate it at all.... a cheap copy of zookos scamcoin has no place in my portfolio i also hold some NAVcoin because i like the project as well (its also a privacy based coin and i think this wil only become more importamt in the future ) http://navcoin.org/zcoin is not a copy of zcash at all. It is a totally different protocol. Yes, somebody finally implemented the zerocoin protocol. You should do more research before shit-posting totally incorrect things, as it makes you look like a fool. smh Zcoin isn't a copy of anything! LOL do you know anything about the coins you are trading?? i know im making money ,i guess youre holding dem heavy bags lol here ,knock yourself out : Zcoin uses Zerocoin technology from the Zerocoin paper. http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdfThis is a very well peer reviewed paper. Zcash uses Zerocash. http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdfAlthough Zerocash is a development from Zerocoin meant to address certain perceived shortcomings of Zerocoin, they are not simple forks of each other and rely on different protocols. Zerocash was meant to improve on Zerocoin on these issues: a) Zerocoin still requires a basecoin to convert back before being allowed to spend. Zerocash has no more basecoin b) Zerocash's proofs are much more efficient and smaller than Zerocoin's c) Zerocoin uses fixed denominations to mint (1, 25, 50, 100) while Zerocash is not subject to such limitations d) Greater privacy with Zerocash since sender/receiver/amount are all obscured. However Zerocoin's advantage over Zerocash are as follows: a) While still retaining the basecoin and a lot of the Bitcoin core code, it is a lot easier to integrate to existing Bitcoin merchants/etc. b) Although Zerocoin's proofs are larger and occupies more storage space, the computational requirements to generate a private transaction are many times faster. Zcash requires large amounts of RAM and minutes of computational time. Zerocoin requires seconds to use and is not memory intensive. Basically Zerocoin uses more storage space but is computationally much less intensive. c) Parameter generation for both Zcoin and Zcash requires a trusted setup but Zcoin's parameters are arguably less controversial. ( https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Parameters-in-set-up-phase-for-Zerocoin-in-ZCoin) d) Most importantly is that in Zcoin, total supply is still visible so if there's a flaw and someone is secretly creating coins for themselves, this can be much more easily detected. With Zcash, because everything is hidden, if a flaw is exploited, it may be almost impossible to detect! e) Zerocoin's tech is more peer reviewed and better understood than Zcash's. Zcash's use of zero knowledge proofs uses ZK-Snarks which very few people understand. Even Zooko himself admits he doesn't understand it ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RLjcGVUnw&feature=youtu.be&t=17m30s). Note that Zerocoin's paper was only like 15 pages. Zcash's paper is more than 50 pages so Zcash's is considerably more complex which means more things that can go wrong. This is why Zcash had to spend so much money on multiple security companies auditing on its critical components and bugs (including some serious ones have been found). A security audit is also not fool proof as the DAO exposed and which is why Zcash also uses multiple companies to audit. Zcash is pretty neat technology and I think is a very amazing innovation but I do think that Zerocoin has a role to play. Its anonymity is still amazingly good with a much larger traceability set than previous anonymity implementations (basically all the previous Zcoins minted), it can be much more readily used today with existing vendors/merchants and can be used in a wide variety of devices today. Did you just copy and paste that?? Ahahahahaha whats copy and paste ? |
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Think about it. There is not a SINGLE altcoin worth holding long term in hopes of it going %2000+ ever again. So we would need to be looking at new interesting projects, but there are none.
I asked about Iconomi, but nobody gave a fuck to reply to me.
you think that ethereum cannot get to $200 or zec to $800 ever? Zec was already $2000 close to beginning when it was highly illiquid; still, it is probably achievable. I think that these numbers are quite possible, as is $16000 for btc. I am not sure yet about more than this. the first few ZEC sold for $5900 a piece i believe ...... BTC ,ETH ,XMR etc are all capable of exponential growth but from 700+ coins id agree most are complete shit |
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Xmr is still in my opinion the best privacy coin,followed by SDC DASH is flawed and zcash is a scam (imo) We may retrace a bit for now but I think $50 by the summer is realistic so stay calm and hodl You forgot about ZCoin. i didnt forget ,i just dont rate it at all.... a cheap copy of zookos scamcoin has no place in my portfolio i also hold some NAVcoin because i like the project as well (its also a privacy based coin and i think this wil only become more importamt in the future ) http://navcoin.org/zcoin is not a copy of zcash at all. It is a totally different protocol. Yes, somebody finally implemented the zerocoin protocol. You should do more research before shit-posting totally incorrect things, as it makes you look like a fool. smh Zcoin isn't a copy of anything! LOL do you know anything about the coins you are trading?? i know im making money ,i guess youre holding dem heavy bags lol here ,knock yourself out : Zcoin uses Zerocoin technology from the Zerocoin paper. http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdfThis is a very well peer reviewed paper. Zcash uses Zerocash. http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdfAlthough Zerocash is a development from Zerocoin meant to address certain perceived shortcomings of Zerocoin, they are not simple forks of each other and rely on different protocols. Zerocash was meant to improve on Zerocoin on these issues: a) Zerocoin still requires a basecoin to convert back before being allowed to spend. Zerocash has no more basecoin b) Zerocash's proofs are much more efficient and smaller than Zerocoin's c) Zerocoin uses fixed denominations to mint (1, 25, 50, 100) while Zerocash is not subject to such limitations d) Greater privacy with Zerocash since sender/receiver/amount are all obscured. However Zerocoin's advantage over Zerocash are as follows: a) While still retaining the basecoin and a lot of the Bitcoin core code, it is a lot easier to integrate to existing Bitcoin merchants/etc. b) Although Zerocoin's proofs are larger and occupies more storage space, the computational requirements to generate a private transaction are many times faster. Zcash requires large amounts of RAM and minutes of computational time. Zerocoin requires seconds to use and is not memory intensive. Basically Zerocoin uses more storage space but is computationally much less intensive. c) Parameter generation for both Zcoin and Zcash requires a trusted setup but Zcoin's parameters are arguably less controversial. ( https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Parameters-in-set-up-phase-for-Zerocoin-in-ZCoin) d) Most importantly is that in Zcoin, total supply is still visible so if there's a flaw and someone is secretly creating coins for themselves, this can be much more easily detected. With Zcash, because everything is hidden, if a flaw is exploited, it may be almost impossible to detect! e) Zerocoin's tech is more peer reviewed and better understood than Zcash's. Zcash's use of zero knowledge proofs uses ZK-Snarks which very few people understand. Even Zooko himself admits he doesn't understand it ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RLjcGVUnw&feature=youtu.be&t=17m30s). Note that Zerocoin's paper was only like 15 pages. Zcash's paper is more than 50 pages so Zcash's is considerably more complex which means more things that can go wrong. This is why Zcash had to spend so much money on multiple security companies auditing on its critical components and bugs (including some serious ones have been found). A security audit is also not fool proof as the DAO exposed and which is why Zcash also uses multiple companies to audit. Zcash is pretty neat technology and I think is a very amazing innovation but I do think that Zerocoin has a role to play. Its anonymity is still amazingly good with a much larger traceability set than previous anonymity implementations (basically all the previous Zcoins minted), it can be much more readily used today with existing vendors/merchants and can be used in a wide variety of devices today. |
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Xmr is still in my opinion the best privacy coin,followed by SDC DASH is flawed and zcash is a scam (imo) We may retrace a bit for now but I think $50 by the summer is realistic so stay calm and hodl You forgot about ZCoin. i didnt forget ,i just dont rate it at all.... a cheap copy of zookos scamcoin has no place in my portfolio i also hold some NAVcoin because i like the project as well (its also a privacy based coin and i think this wil only become more importamt in the future ) http://navcoin.org/ |
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It's more like:
1. Rally to $266
2. Rally to $1300
3. Rally to $35000
Can you imagine the number of sellers there would be at$1200 levels? A lot of money has to come into the bitcoin system for tge next bubble. I personally would be delighted with $35000, but I dont see it happening soon. the people who wanted out at 1200 could have left last week ,personally ,i wouldnt dust off my cold storage for anything under 10k (even when we reach 10k il probably only sell about 20%) |
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