He did transmit money without a licence He did partake in the top level of a ponzi scam
Please cite evidence of both the above assertions. Please also provide your definition for the words 'transmit' and 'partake'. transmit is the legal jargon they use for swapping btc for cash or vice versa he is well known for running a pirate passthrough for trendon shavers of btcst fame you must be new here ,learn to use the search function and an english dictionary would help you a lot : partake pärˈtāk/Submit verbformal join in (an activity). "visitors can partake in golfing or clay pigeon shooting" synonyms: participate in, take part in, engage in, join in, enter into, get involved in, share in, contribute to, play a part in, have a hand in, sit in on "only senior officers are allowed to partake in the negotiations"
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are these accounts still available ?
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Damn you must be a fan of me or something. This guy is on almost every single god damn post I publish. im a boxing fan and your taking bets for a fight thats not even comfirmed yet ?? WTF are you smoking over there ?
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if you have $200 in cash use that to pay the hookers and blow and hopefully the btc will go back to $450+ most people are not interested in taking a personal loss just to stimulate the bitcoin economy ,thats the reality Again, by spending 1 BTC on hookers and buying one back right away (at $200), rather than just spending the $200 on hookers, you are: 1. NOT taking any personal loss whatsoever (you already took that loss when buying 1 BTC at $450 and it dropped to $200) 2. Actually helping to recover your loss by stimulating the Bitcoin economy, rather than hodling and merely "hoping" the price will somehow magically rise to $450 Remember: by just sitting on your coins, instead of using them, Bitcoin won't grow! Spend them, and buy back at the same time. i understand what you are saying but i am already a bitcoin enthusiast people who are not converted yet think its a $450- $200 is $250 lost + exchange fees as its not always free to use banks to credit exchange and get bitcoins , charges vary depending on what country you live in and which exchange you need to use for whatever reason
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The Willybot scam stole about eleventy million... Yes, its in no way just 11 million. 11 million sounds so less, would be atleast a 100 times that. this figure is incredibly way too low ...... the pirate ponzi alone was alledgedly worth around 60 million usd in defrauded btc from investors "The SEC alleges that Trendon T. Shavers, who is the founder and operator of Bitcoin Savings and Trust (BTCST), offered and sold Bitcoin-denominated investments through the Internet using the monikers “Pirate” and “pirateat40.” Shavers raised at least 700,000 Bitcoin in BTCST investments, which amounted to more than $4.5 million based on the average price of Bitcoin in 2011 and 2012 when the investments were offered and sold. Today the value of 700,000 Bitcoin exceeds $60 million" http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370539730583#.VMtqE9KUfsw
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if they are worried about riots and rising crime they should stop flooding our countries with black immigrants
someone called saddam complaining about immigrants ..... i loled
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So what? A lot more people are buying their own homes too. Debt per person isn't really the greatest indicator.
When paying the interest on the national debt is more than our budget...it will cause some problems. Current interest payment is $430 billion. The proposed Defense budget for this year is $526 billion. We will soon be paying more in interest than for our national defense. If some politician says they have some plan for fixing the budget and it does not include addressing the huge debt, they are feeding you a pile of shit. what possible answer could there be to address a debt that size ? im intrigued which politician can pay off 18 trillion and what with and over how many years if if the interest alone is $430 billion and growing by the day ?
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Ponzi never die. Lol
If the greed not dies,Ponzis live ever. another english teacher in the house ,welcomez
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You would rather call it a gamblers fallacy, that the price can't go lower . Thats what most of the people holding bitcoin have the mindset about . You're missing the point. In both strategies I suggested, Joe is essentially keeping his Bitcoin. Except with number 2, he is actively helping to raise the price level, on two ends (bitcoin economy, and market demand). If Joe does think the price will go lower, then he's better off spending his BTC anyway (now that it still buys him $200 worth of stuff), rather than spending $200 and keeping his BTC. Or, better yet, he buys more- thereby decreases his cost per Bitcoin. He bought one for $450. Goes out and buys 4 more @ $200/each. Essentially, he bought each coin for $250/each (1250/5). BTC could make that kind of value back at some point on any given day. it still doesnt make sense to pay $450 for a btc and spend it on a hookers and blow a month later when its worth $200 , if you have $200 in cash use that to pay the hookers and blow and hopefully the btc will go back to $450+ most people are not interested in taking a personal loss just to stimulate the bitcoin economy ,thats the reality
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you should find more investor no one will invest a ponzi which has only 2 invest good luck..
that would actually be the best time if there ever was one to invest in a ponzi lol the earlier you get in the more likely you get anything back
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everyone keeps talking about "he will be rich when" "He will be wealthy" blah blah
we don't even know if he kept the coin he could have sold it buy now.
if he was living off of his fathers inheritance and squandered it on bitcoin he would have to sell the bitcoin to make back some money. Not many people could thug it out in a crack house working at ben and jerry's while they have 600 bitcoin that they sold their home for.
He's got another house and most likely a job as well he has another house?where is your source? the original article said " i inherited this house years ago when my dad died ,im am selling it for BTC because............ " the house is now sold for 648 BTC do you think he posted these posts from a cardboard box somewhere ? Alright so in other words you are simply assuming that he has another house. Give me a break buddy,until you have some substantial proof to substantiate your claim button your lip. Your greatest resource is your logic,when he said "all in" what the hell do you think that meant? He either sold his money took a huge loss,I calculated it already (if you need to revise go do so now before you reply) or is still holding them and living with friends family or maybe he even moved into a studio apartment. One thing is for sure,he doesn't have some "backup" house. why he dont have another house ? youre just making guesses as to where he sleeps now lol studio apartment friends couch hilton hotel ? anything else?
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the boffin guy who was the front man in usa should be facing felony charges for fraud and deception and god knows what else
its unbelieveable that everyones just letting him off when he was responsible for the USA fronting of the company
WTF is the accountability for him ?
Doesn't exist. Deleted his reddit & twitter accounts. Just into the thin air... Chat logs show that he knew he was being negligent and should investigate his anonymous partner, yet decided willingly not to. The company accounts and american name i believe was in his name. So how is it that he has dissapeared, and nothing... I don't even believe there is a real court case on this. All BS the guys name was landon iirc if he opened bank accounts for moolah /mintpal stateside someone will have his details no reason he should go scott free at all ,hes totally responsible for the usa side of the scam and partially responsible for the other countries when he agreed to the manager of a scam You can find his information on my site, network23.org/dogecoin - look on the "moolah resources" page, may actually be on a subreddit i made a while back - you'll see it on the network23 site. i didnt lose anything but i still think they both should be punished the amount of bullshit in this thread is unbelieveable they both need to face criminal charges but i cant file them because i havent lost anything someone who lost coins or money needs to do it in uk and us
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Exactly. We should be uniting with BurtW to *FIGHT* these absurd laws.
How do you suggest we deny the facts of the matter? He did transmit money without a licence He did partake in the top level of a ponzi scam Nobody can say he didn't do the only possible defence is that the law must be changed, and good Luck fighting that..... It maybe unfair but since when have they ever cared what is or isn't fair?
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What happens if China or Japan asked for their 2.5 trillion back?
Is that even possible? Will it just be unpaid forever or will they print more money and send it back?
I don't know how it works tbh....?
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satoshi - 1 million btc Karpeles- 850,000 btc pirate - 700,000 btc ulbricht - 650,000 btc winklevoss -210,000btc
btc is not exactly fair either in comparison when you count some of the wealth the major players have or had control off in some cases and these are just the ones we know about ,there could be whales out there with as much or more that just keep their info off the radar
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This seller apparently is even rated as "#1 best seller" in computer servers (although this could be talking about the product not the seller). The seller does have either 4 or 4.5 stars (our of 5) on all the products they are selling. It looks like Newdeal2014 is the only one who receives battery out of more than 50 buyers. If Newdeal2014 is speaking the truth. Newdeal2014 looks like hes in the wrong id bits of 8 is a legit seller perfect feedback
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Sad to see a new ponzi born every day in this forum.
Let's see how many idiots give their coin away to scammer.
it would be refreshing if there was only 1 new ponzi per day in this place every 2nd fucking thread is another new ponzi in broken english its spamming the place up
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the mods can check if he sent the pm to himself or used an alt with the same ip address - pm badbear ASAP to see if the pm is from a legit user or not
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Is that what the "Wealthy Elite Gentleman" is reduced to now? Cough syrup junkies?
Jesus man, get a hold of yourself. I'm hurtin' too, we all are. It's bad, but it's not that bad.
at times of great stress we need valium and vodka ..........but hopefully soon it will be whisky and cigars lol
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I was so amazed to see their interview today after they presented their ETF project!
They said if bitcoin market cap would be 400 billion if it becomes major among money transfer(visa,mastercard).
marketcap would be in trillions if it disrupts Gold..
They hold 1% of all bitcoin total supply!
They are taking bitcoin to wall street and comply with regulations to create the first ever ETF for bitcoin so all the banks and wall street major billionaires can now invest in bitcoin..
In the coming decentralized world which will be made up of key technologies like drones, 3d printing, autonomous agents we can be sure that the blockchain technology will be like how electricity was to the 20th century...
bitcoin will be the token of value in future...
they will be the masters of decentralized revolution!
If they were smart they would have sold when Bitcoin hit $1000, if they are still holding after that then they aren't good venture capitalists. How do you sell 1% of bitcoin without bringing the market to .01 slowly ,very slowly .........
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