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481  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is signing a Bitcoin address free or not? on: August 24, 2017, 04:46:29 AM
Yes x2 if you're talking about bitcoin signed messages, not actual transactions.
482  Economy / Collectibles / Re: At what price level do you start peeling rather than selling? on: August 23, 2017, 08:11:04 PM
Not sure how it is in other countries, but US airports (and by extension, planes & passengers thereupon) have only security theater, with 95% failure rate https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851

Effectively anyone who wants to get a weapon in, will. Weapons are even fabricated in prisons.

So potentially 95% of passengers are packing heat? I'm surprised there aren't more fire fights with shop staff at the overpriced Pepsis on sale.

Even if your buyer did produce an assault rifle from their panties, there are still enough cameras and security around to put a halt to them after they've emptied a clip into your face. It'll be too late for you, but not for your coin.

Armed robberies usually end with the victim's compliance, no bloodshed. A pistol covered from CCTV but revealed to the law-abiding/defenseless victim, or even the 95% believable threat of having a pistol, will do.
483  Economy / Collectibles / Re: At what price level do you start peeling rather than selling? on: August 23, 2017, 09:16:57 AM
The only point in peeling would be to liquidate your BTC holdings for cash.

Not necessarily. I might want to spend it. I might not want something physically accessible lying around. I may want it all installed in a hardware wallet.

I really couldn'tbe arsed with face to face sales and showing up with a sawn off in my panties. I like the sound of a legit auction house but a long wait could be in order indeed.


For an alternative to the sawed off shotgun idea....US seller, European buyer....both fly to Heathrow arriving around the same time.  Meet in the really fun Polish bar owned by the angry old Polish woman and do the exchange there.  You know the other guy isn't armed because you are still in the terminal of an airport.  Seller can fly with the coin in his pocket the entire trip.  Both get on return flights never leaving the terminal.

Not sure how it is in other countries, but US airports (and by extension, planes & passengers thereupon) have only security theater, with 95% failure rate https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851

Effectively anyone who wants to get a weapon in, will. Weapons are even fabricated in prisons.
484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: At what price point per BTC will it be too late for the average person on: August 23, 2017, 09:10:04 AM
It'll be too late once 1 satoshi/BTC0.00000001 is worth more than the smallest unit of fiat currency.
485  Other / Off-topic / Re: any good rpg games? on: August 23, 2017, 04:56:29 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241114.0
486  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Tacticool gear on: August 23, 2017, 02:09:13 AM
This topic is locked because of everyone violating the Local rule: do not reply to this topic.

If you don't want to pay with BTC, I also accept cash, but absolutely no PayPal or other non-cash scammer payment methods.

Please PM, IM (links under my QR code avatar), text 619-393-2253, or IRC me. Don't, if you won't prove that you have enough funds to pay immediately.

Eagle USA St. Louis size M (with adjustable paracord) black tactical vest

Click for full-size:


With thigh holster, large rear ALICE utility pouch. Has attached Uncle Mike’s belt, with Blackhawk dual pistol mag holder, ? glove/cuff pouch. All other pouches integral. Excellent to like-new condition.

$175/ plus cheapest USPS shipping within the U.S. (including to an international shipping forwarding service of your choice) TBD, or you may pick up in San Diego, CA.
487  Other / Archival / [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 6 on: August 22, 2017, 04:50:55 PM
All I will say is that the box will be worth about the same as the auction price. Will prioritize new items, then descend in condition if I run out of new items or the new items can't add up close enough. If the auction price is sufficiently high & my biggest box can't hold everything, I'll split everything across multiple packages.

Auction Terms (should go without saying, but: if violated, negative feedback with risked BTC will be left)

USA delivery address only; 100% up to you to find & hire a US-based shipping forwarder/reshipper if you're outside the US & send me a list of things likely to be seized by your Customs officials, so I won't include them.

Minimum Starting Bid: BTC0.015
Minimum Bid Increment: BTC0.005
Shipping: Free packaging, but the cheapest USPS shipping service based on dimensions, destination & weight counts towards auction price
End Date: 9/4/2017 @ 23:59:59 UTC-7 -> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/los-angeles
Payment Deadline: My BTC address will be sent to winner at end of auction, and payment must be at least broadcast to the network within 8 hours
Late Payment Penalty: Negative feedback; which will be removed after you pay 2x the amount of your winning bid (you'll get 2x the mystery box)
488  Other / Archival / Re: [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 5 on: August 22, 2017, 07:16:14 AM
The countdown started from my PM at 00:00 UTC-7.
489  Economy / Reputation / Re: TheButterZone ? on: August 21, 2017, 08:42:23 PM
Funny enough but had Butterzone said when Yogg asked if he should take a loan in case TBZ needed it immediately that yeah no matter what I need it within 8 hrs. I don't know if a feedback was needed, but anyways you have to read terms more carefully yogg.

The 8 hours is set so that I will wake up to at least 1 confirm on that TX on Tuesday morning, leaving the whole of Monday for last-day bidders to secure their bids' BTC on a banking/business day, and giving me Tuesday to prepare & tender the shipment to USPS before 5PM local, hopefully resulting in the mystery box being delivered on or before Saturday in the same week, or the following Monday at the latest.  

Irregardless, please CTRL/CMD-F the word "loan" & read all the times I used it.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / [WTS] 729.18643499 BTX + charity donation for BTC (offer open/ignore lock) on: August 21, 2017, 02:05:00 AM
This topic is locked because of everyone violating the Local rule: do not reply to this topic.

Please DON'T PM, instead IM (links under my QR code avatar), text 619-393-2253, or IRC me. Don't, if you won't prove that you have enough funds to pay immediately.

(SegWit/standard) Price firm.

You will get 729.18643499 BTX (minus fee) & I will make an in-kind donation of goods in your name to charity, for the difference between my price & average spot price, until I run out of my inventory to donate.

Offer valid as long as the ATH (on https://athcoinindex.com/currencies/bitcore) is $48.42 USD/BTX.
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / [WTS] 25 BCH + charity donation, for 25 BTC on: August 20, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
This topic is locked because of everyone violating the Local rule: do not reply to this topic.

Please DON'T PM, instead IM (links under my QR code avatar), text 619-393-2253, or IRC me. Don't, if you won't prove that you have enough funds to pay immediately.

I will send you 25 BCH for BTC25 (SegWit/standard) & I will make an in-kind donation in your name to charity of my entire virtual thrift store inventory. Offer expires when BCH's all-time high exceeds that rate.
492  Economy / Services / Re: Streaming engineer for Periscope, Facebook Live, YouTube, Twitch on: August 20, 2017, 10:11:51 PM
bump
493  Other / Off-topic / Re: punishment for rapists on: August 20, 2017, 08:29:29 AM
Rape doesn't require a penis, but it does require a head.
494  Other / Archival / [WTS] One $5 Amazon MP3 album (for US customer only) with Starbucks $5 as backup on: August 18, 2017, 07:58:52 AM


Select one of these $5 albums & I will buy it with my $2.56 promo credit+$2.44 rewards points & have Amazon email the album to you as a gift.

Quote from: Amazon checkout
MP3 gifts purchased at Amazon.com can only be downloaded by U.S. customers.

If Amazon tells me you couldn't claim your MP3 gift (nor convert it to gift credit, if that's still an option), I'll revoke it, then send you the card numbers for my Starbucks gift card loaded with $5 USD, so you didn't send me BTC for nothing & we don't have to burn your BTC on refund TX fee.

If you're certain Amazon won't be a problem & want to buy both the $5 album & the $5 Starbucks card in one TX, double the float price.



Also, since I have $2.56 promo credit & $8.08 in rewards points, for BTC equivalent, I can buy you any of the albums up to $10.64 in this maximum price refined search.



Please DON'T PM, instead IM (links under my QR code avatar), text 619-393-2253, or IRC me.

Local rule: do not reply to this topic.
495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Aug 1 summary on: August 18, 2017, 07:21:34 AM
or you just making a general warning against putting any BTC in exchanges?
Correct. Maybe you just hope to get Goxxed and Cryptsied.

And Bitfloored...
496  Economy / Reputation / Re: TheButterZone ? on: August 18, 2017, 06:28:52 AM
Considering how serious TBZ takes the terms of his own auctions, I am curious to know his opinion regarding minerjones backing out of 4 auctions in the span of roughly 5 weeks.

If someone's acting as a third-party's auctioneer, they should say so, so everyone can see that & punch out. There are probably civil codes applicable to auctioneering, as well.

I'm not a fan of third-parties in trades, whether it's an auctioneer, escrow, self-escrow, loan shark, friend/"loans are gifts", guarantor... and apparently I have to hold my nose on shipping forwarding when no bitcoiner in the US wants a thing. There is some degree of insurance that can be added to domestic shipments, but once it gets to the buyer's choice of forwarder, I don't have meaningful control anymore.
497  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] bitaddress.org Safe JavaScript Bitcoin address/private key on: August 17, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
I spy only an unconfirmed transaction from today at that address. Electrum might not be able to sweep unconfirmeds with CPFP, only sweep confirmed TXs. If you import the private key rather than sweep attempt, that might make it available for CPFP.
498  Economy / Reputation / Re: TheButterZone ? on: August 17, 2017, 09:03:23 PM
Allright, I'm subscribing to notifications too.

Please stop making false assumptions. Where did you see that I didn't intend to pay you, or that I don't have funds secured ?

Your own words in the past-deadline PM quoted below made it absolutely clear that you didn't have funds secured. Only after the deadline did a BTC1 input get added to 0 balance. If you had funds secured, then you wouldn't have been "a bit short on BTC".

Would that do ? This came from my Trezor.

Message : "This is yogg from bitcointalk and this address held 0.65BTC during the auction."
Address : 1ERTmtjSby7wjZM5WdAZ2yQvKwZyXB6oG6
Signature : H9uCue6ImJrzpWJee50V27YA0EXYPgFgI0DoW3Be+2EnWgfF9exu20WeSDCc+nUe8oFF7620etFolSR7Aq/deMY=

(except to victim-blamers who will always pretend they can't READ ENGLISH).

Like you predict what people WILL say ?

The answer to what is effectively "may I violate the terms of your auction?" is always implicitly (Why do you & everyone else think it's ok to violate the terms of my auctions?) & now explicitly, NO.

Allright. It's not like you mentioned the payment conditions in the PM you wrote me. Not a hello, nothing, except "You win!" in the title, a quote to my winning bid, and a BTC address.

Do you often do business based on implicit terms ? Do you request implicit amounts of money, and then brag around if that's not enough ?
Who else conducts business on implicit terms ? Even Google and Facebook have the courtesy of drawing that stuff in pages of documents, but at least if you read it whole you know what you stand on.

One third-party's involvement (the shipping forwarder minerjones) is quite enough. I don't want my BTC knowingly tainted by loans.

Which loans ? It was on my Trezor for god's sake ! ( https://i.imgur.com/xveV7JS.png )

Hello TheButterZone,

Awesome ! I'm curious to know what's going to be inside. Smiley
I am really a bit short on BTC at the time writing. Do you mind if I pay you in 48hr max please ?
Otherwise I still can take a small loan to pay you right now, but soon I won't need to pay any additional interest.

Thank you very much for your comprehension,
Best regards,
yogg

Yes, what didn't I say there..
And where do you see "I do not have the funds secured to pay you" ?
All the above was true. At the time writing, I was short on BTC. I couldn't access my Trezor wallet.

It feels like a trap, really. I started the bidding, I didn't even remember the exact time of the end, and the exact terms.

A Trezor inaccessible at deadline countdown does not equal funds secured for payment. Needing to "take a small loan" because you are "a bit short on BTC at the time" as YOU said, does not equal funds secured for payment.

Trap contracts are pages & pages, many hundreds if not thousands of words, including legalese. Mine was, according to https://wordcounter.net/ : 110 words (from "USA" to "hours" - if you count the entire OP, 172 words).

And, unsurprisingly, you revised history of what I PMed you first of all:

It's not like you mentioned the payment conditions in the PM you wrote me. Not a hello, nothing, except "You win!" in the title, a quote to my winning bid, and a BTC address.

"nothing"?


See that link at the top of my PM (of course not, nobody can ever read what I type, apparently)? That's to my OP, which is forum-timestamped showing that it was not edited after your bid. If I had quoted my OP in the PM, I could have edited my terms there, to try to pass those off as the actual terms. I only quoted what couldn't be edited at the quote source.


Please, let's remove the feedbacks we left to each other and tell me what it will take to settle this. Is there something that would make good for my bad, please tell. I can send the 0.02BTC to Sean's Outpost if that satisfies you.
Let's settle this and make some good.

My #1 goal is to liquidate my inventory, so:
1. Please ask Sean's Outpost to select around BTC0.02 worth of items from my inventory (reading the descriptions in full, not just looking at the photos) at https://instagram.com/thebutterzone (shipping will count towards the BTC0.02, just like my mystery boxes) that they can use, and give me their shipping address
2. I'll review their selections & calculate cheapest shipping to their address
3. I'll confirm to Sean's Outpost the items+shipping that adds up to around BTC0.02
4. I'll copy/paste that exchange to you (or we could preferably do multi-recipient/Reply-All PMs/emails from start to finish)
5. You'll confirm & pay me BTC0.02
6. I'll in-kind donate the items to Sean's Outpost in your name, & change your feedback type to positive
7. You'll get a donation receipt from Sean's Outpost & claim it as a tax deduction?

ETA: Any eligible US-registered charity (that I can look up on https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/ ) may be substituted for Sean's Outpost into the steps above - if they're in San Diego County, CA, shipping won't be necessary, I'll just deliver. Many say they generically accept in-kind donations, or publish wishlists for specific in-kind donations, for example: https://sdhumane.org/how-you-can-help/donate/donate-wish-list-items/
499  Economy / Reputation / Re: TheButterZone ? on: August 17, 2017, 07:53:03 PM
All answers in what started to become a pile-on thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954169.0

A bad outcome is unsuspected/unexpected from the violating of auction terms? ROTFLMFAO

Did Satoshi Jesus say it's 100% OK to routinely enter into contracts & violate their terms with impunity, claiming you didn't read them, no matter how few words they contained?
500  Other / Archival / Re: [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 4 on: August 17, 2017, 07:36:19 PM
Allright, I'm subscribing to notifications too.

Please stop making false assumptions. Where did you see that I didn't intend to pay you, or that I don't have funds secured ?

Your own words in the past-deadline PM quoted below made it absolutely clear that you didn't have funds secured. Only after the deadline did a BTC1 input get added to 0 balance. If you had funds secured, then you wouldn't have been "a bit short on BTC". The auction duration/end time is logically above the payment deadline, so even if you thought it was legitimate to place an unsecured bid on an auction, you knew EXACTLY the deadline for getting it secured later, but not so late that it was past the deadline.

As every auction term is equally important & violated, the order and font is irrelevant (except to victim-blamers who will always pretend they can't READ ENGLISH).

The answer to what is effectively "may I violate the terms of your auction?" is always implicitly (Why do you & everyone else think it's ok to violate the terms of my auctions?) & now explicitly, NO.

One third-party's involvement (the shipping forwarder minerjones) is quite enough. I don't want my BTC knowingly tainted by loans.

Hello TheButterZone,

Awesome ! I'm curious to know what's going to be inside. Smiley
I am really a bit short on BTC at the time writing. Do you mind if I pay you in 48hr max please ?
Otherwise I still can take a small loan to pay you right now, but soon I won't need to pay any additional interest.

Thank you very much for your comprehension,
Best regards,
yogg
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