I was going to say, I really hope that Russia doesn't become the new world ruler, considering how corrupt and totalitarian their government is, how much they trample on human rights, and how much their culture apparently breeds apathy and neonazi levels of nationalism, thinking that everyone just collapsing and being independent would be a much better outcome then being forced under Russia... And then I remembered that "As of 2012 oil and gas sector accounted for 16% of the GDP, 52% of federal budget revenues and over 70% of total exports", many of which are going to EU, so if the "West" collapses, Russia will follow. And before you say, "But China!...," at least 40% of China's exports are going to the "West," and that really high US debt you guys keep bringing up? A lot of that is to China, which owns $1.28 TRILLION in US debt, from which it earns $26.9 billion in interest payments every year, and which it holds as treasury notes to suppress the value of its own currency to make their exports cheaper and more competitive. If US collapses, not only will China instantly lose $1.28 trillion in assets, but it will lose a huge income, and its currency value will shoot up, as will the price of their exports and labor, making them really uncompetitive for outsourcing. Their economy will collapse as well, combined with massive unemployment. So, China will lose their export economy and many of their workers will become unemployed, Russia will find itself not being able to sell its oil to anyone (Brazil isn't doing all that well either BTW), and because much of Russia is held up by social welfare programs paid by those oil and gas profits (keeps the population pacified, but stupid, and keeps the economy from developing), when those social welfare programs dry up (or lead to massive hyperinflation), there will be massive mayhem in the streets of Russia. I am certain Jews will be blamed. So, if "The West" falls, your favorite pets Russia and China will fall with them. P.S. Oil and resources do not make for the richest economy in a nation. Who are the wealthiest, most economically developed nations in the Middle East? Oil-rich Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia? Nope! It's Israel and Dubai, the two countries that have no oil whatsoever! |
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interesting
any price aproximation?
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I am with Egypt on this. Homosexuality as such is not illegal in Egypt (there is no law banning it, as it is not mentioned anywhere in the penal code). But these people organized a public marriage event and even used the video of that event for propaganda purposes. If this event was private, what was the need to upload the video to YouTube?
Are you serious? Why does anyone upload their wedding videos to YouTube? |
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So... if EU airliners ignore the airspace restrictions, Russia will do... what exactly? Shoot down civilian planes?
They will act according to the standard protocol defined by Chicago Convention (1944). *Readreadreads* Ah, so the MH17 approach. OK (since when does Russia keep agreements and treaties?) |
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Unconvincing. A few hundred ... About 3,000 actually. And the anti- crowd didn't protest or have rallies, which would have been easy for them to do if they were a majority. |
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I wish that horse hadn't bumped and knocked over my dishwasher  |
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No official threads yet. We are trying to keep the price as low as possible (lower than other hardware wallets)
This claims that the Bitcoin communication will take place through radio waves !!! Am I reading it right ? By the way, is cardreaderfactory.com offering something similar ? That is right. Bitcoincard is designed to be used without an internet connection. I don't know anything about cardreaderfactory. |
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USA invades to disrupt what's happening in those countries,
And who asked them to do so? Using their logic, it's not their business what happens outside of their borders, am I right? You are right, and I agree (unless they ARE asked by the country they go into). So, why don't you apply the same standard to Russia? but doesn't actually try to take control of them and make them be a part of USA.
Yeah, they just turn them into colonies, raping their economy, buying all agricultural lands and stealing natural resources. That's much better than make them be a part of USA of course. Better for the USA. None of those countries you listed are American colonies. I think USA has maybe two or three colonies that are island, at most. And, again, why don't you apply the same standard to Russia? Russia is the one "raping" the economy and oil fields in Iraq right now. No issues with that? And will you complain just as much when Russia starts raping the economy in Eastern Ukraine and taking their natural gas, too? I won't ask whether you are a troll or you really believe in what you write, but USA can't make anyone democratic and capitalist because they're themselves neither democratic nor capitalist.
Huh. So, how are things going in Korea? Vietnam? Chile to name a few? Are they communist dictatorships like China or North Korea? Yes, they can't make anyone be democratic and capitalist, but they can help keep invading communist dictators at bay. And, again, I don't support either side invading, but at least the outcome of these guys is better than anything USSR and communists invaded. We have to be lenient with our younger brothers. Because before the beginning of 1980s many of us employed a very similar pattern of behavior, you know what I mean... The blind belief into the democratic values... A persistent usage of the democracy as an excuse for military interventions and economical sanctions, combined with incredibly strong belief into the need of bringing the order to chaotic environment. It's all the same, but unlike them we've seen this before.  And then you went right back to believing it, with your moronic defense of Russian military intervention to "spread democracy and bring order to the chaotic environment" in Eastern Ukraine. Pathetic. |
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Medvedev: If EU approves new sanctions (I think this will be counter-counter-sanctions), then Russia will be forced to reply asymmetrically and close its airspace (counter-counter-counter-sanctions): http://www.aif.ru/money/economy/1332908English: http://rt.com/business/185924-sanctions-eu-oil-airspace-medvedev/“We could impose transport restrictions,” Medvedev said, adding, "We believe we have friendly relations with our partners, and foreign airlines of friendly countries are permitted to fly over Russia. However, we’ll have to respond to any restrictions imposed on us," the prime minister said.
After sanctions hit Aeroflot’s low-cost subsidiary Dobrolet in late July, Medvedev discussed with ministers the possibility of limiting, of even completely blocking, European flights to Asia that overfly Russia.
“If Western carriers have to bypass our airspace, this could drive many struggling airlines into bankruptcy. This is not the way to go. We just hope our partners realize this at some point,” he told Vedomosti.
Flying over Russian airspace saves Western airlines headed to Asia at least 4 hours of flight time, which adds up to about $30,000 per flight.
Lufthansa said it could potentially lose more than €1 billion in three months if it does not use Russian airspace.
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“Sanctions are always a double-edged sword. Ultimately they end up backfiring and end up hurting those who are first to impose restrictions,” Medvedev said.
So... if EU airliners ignore the airspace restrictions, Russia will do... what exactly? Shoot down civilian planes? |
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They are not punishing Crimeans, they are punishing Russia, whom Crimeans decided to side with. If Crimeans don't want to be sanctioned, they can easily democratically distance themselves from Russia and declare themselves as an independent state.
Lol... you are funny. The sanctions are not having any effects at all on Crimea. Then why did you guys say they are punishing Crimea? And no amount of blackmail tactics can get Crimeans to back the Kiev fascists.
The fact that there are no fascists in Kiev aside, I didn't say they must go back to Ukraine. Note the last part of my post: "they can easily democratically distance themselves from Russia and declare themselves as an independent state. Stop day dreaming and get used to the fact that Crimea is (irreversibly) a part of Russia.
I wonder if that's the same as the 14 Soviet Republics used to be irreversible parts of Russia (which proved reversible once people living there have had enough). |
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No official threads yet. We are trying to keep the price as low as possible (lower than other hardware wallets)
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Where is the list of countries USA decided to invade and control as part of USA?
This list is only partial, as I have not included countries such as (Western) Germany, Italy and Japan, which are under American military occupation ever since the World War 2. While I don't support USA taking my tax money to set up military bases around the world... You have a funny definition of "occupation." USA is paying Italy to keep their bases there. Germany started WW2, so kind of deserved being under watch for a while. Note that Germany is not actually occupied or owned by USA, USA just has a military base there, and Germany actually partners with USA to combine its military forces. Japan actually pays USA to keep their military base there, since it's easier for Japan to rent out US military for their defense, rather than build up their own (plus they were banned from having anything but defensive forces after WW2). Plus having a military base on your soil is not the same as "occupation." At least not the same as the way Russia typically occupies. Do you consider that every country that has McDonald's owning some land in it as "occupied" too? 1949 Greece - Still independent country.
1952 Cuba - Invasion failed, still communist socialist country, economy still sucks. Still independent country.
1953 Iran - Still communist socialist country, economy still sucks. Still independent country.
1953 British Guyana - Still independent country.
1954 Guatemala - Still independent country.
1955 South Vietnam - Still independent country.
1957 Haiti - Still independent country.
1958 Laos - Still independent country.
1960 South Korea - Still independent country.
1960 Laos - Still independent country.
1960 Ecuador - Still independent country.
1963 Dominican Republic - Still independent country.
1963 South Vietnam - Still independent country.
1963 Honduras - Still independent country.
1963 Guatemala - Still independent country.
1963 Ecuador. - Still independent country.
1964 Brazil - Still independent country.
1964 Bolivia - Still independent country.
1965 Zaire. - Still independent country.
1966 Ghana - Still independent country.
1967 Greece - Still independent country.
1970 Cambodia - Still independent country.
1970 Bolivia - Still independent country.
1972 El Salvador - Still independent country.
1973 Chile - Still independent country.
1979 South Korea (Pro-USA government wanted) - Still independent country.
1980 Liberia - Still independent country.
1982 Chad - Still independent country.
1983 Grenada - Still independent country.
1987 Fiji - Still independent country.
1989 Panama - Still independent country.
2001 Afghanistan - Invasion was supported by Afghanis under Taliban oppression. Still independent country.
2002 Venezuela - Still independent country.
2003 Iraq - Many of USA citizens protested the invasion as based on lies. In the end it was proven that USA government lied to citizens to start the war, and almost everyone agrees this was a bad thing. Still independent country.
2004 Haiti - Previous presidential election was considered fraudulent by Haitians. Still independent country.
2009 Honduras - Still independent country.
2011 Libya - Was asked for help by Lybians themselves. Still independent country.
2011 Tunisia - Still independent country.
2013 Egypt - Anti-government protests against dictator supported by US were started by Egyptians. US didn't intervene to keep their "puppet" in power. Still independent country.
2014 Ukraine - Anti-government protests were started by Ukrainians due to concerns of their president being a Russian puppet, not USA. Still independent country.
USA invades to disrupt what's happening in those countries, but doesn't actually try to take control of them and make them be a part of USA. Even then, I agree, what it is doing isn't necessarily a good thing. On the other hand, when Russia invades countries, it's usually to make them actually be a part of Russia. Also, the biggest difference between the intents is that USA invades to try to make the countries democratic and capitalist, while Russia invades to try to make the countries totalitarian and socialist/communist. Note that in that list, every country that USA invaded where USA lost, and the country remained socialist with either a dictator or a corrupt government, the economy REALLY sucks. While in every country where the invasion successfully repelled communists and/or opened the country to international trade, the economy has been improving considerably. |
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You've twisted my words. I didn't claim it the way you're trying to show. I didn't mean Russia exclusively, I meant all media. They are all lying and spreading propaganda, just on different scales and to different beneficiaries.
The second sentence is a bit naive, but here in Russia people also don't like feeding them bullshit.
If you live in Russia, that's something you would be expected to believe. In Europe and US, we have some media that we know are lying and spreading propaganda, and some media that pride themselves on telling the truth, and actually compete against other media by exposing their propaganda. For instance, MSNBC often points out and debunks lies reported by Fox News, and in UK, BBC often points out and debunks lies reported by The Daily Mail and other propaganda news sources. There is a competition here for who can disprove the other's lies first, and present itself as the only truthful source you should listen to. What are the competing media sources in Russia? When RT is owned by the government, and most other media sources are also owned by the government, or are heavily influenced by them, who is there to try to debunk RT? |
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So it's ok for you that neo-nazis participate in official elections, that they are operating freely, have guns? In fact, they are nazi gangs.
You can't stop anyone from participating in official elections in a democracy. The most you can do is make sure to keep voting against them. Or you can be a dictatorship and ban everyone but "approved" parties from running (like Soviet Union did). Don't you think that in a civilized country they should be outlawed and fought against?
I don't know, don't you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism#Russia"In a country [Russia] that lost more people defeating the Nazis than any other country, there are now an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 neo-Nazis, half of the world's total."Russian National Unity (RNE), founded in 1990 and led by Alexander Barkashov ... adopted the swastika as its symbol, and sees itself as the avant-garde of a coming national revolution. Historian Walter Laqueur calls RNE far closer to the Nazi model than the LDPR. RNE publishes several news sheets; one of them, Russky poryadok, claims to have a circulation of 150,000. Full members of RNE are called Soratnik (comrades in arms), receive combat training at locations near Moscow, and many of them work as security officers or armed guards.Seems like it's a MUCH bigger problem in Russia than in Ukraine. |
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Crimes of Ukrainian Aidar battalion confirmed in Amnesty Int’l report - Russia http://rt.com/news/186576-ukraine-battalion-war-crimes/An Amnesty International report has confirmed that war crimes including abductions, executions and extortion were committed by the Ukrainian Aidar battalion in Lugansk region, eastern Ukraine, an official from Russia’s Foreign Ministry says.
“The report confirms large-scale crimes, including war [crimes] made routinely and under the aegis of Ukrainian law enforcement agencies, by the leaders and members of the Aidar battalion,” said Konstantin Dolgov, the Foreign Ministry’s commissioner for human rights.
“Amnesty International points only to some of these [crimes] – abductions, unlawful detention, ill-treatment, theft, extortion, including demanding ransom for abducted Ukrainians, and simple robbery from the civilian population,” Dolgov said. Hmm. So both sides have volunteers that are crazy and are committing atrocities (See previous HRW article about Separatists doing the exact same things to people in towns they control). I'm not a big fan of fighting crazy with crazy. I do hope Ukrainian government condemns their actions, as I hope Russia and Ukraine condemn the actions of the Separatists. |
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The NAF has retreated from the village of Chervonepole, thereby lifting the siege of Mariupol. I just hope that the Kiev junta does not use this opportunity to move more troops and hardware to that city.
Why not? The majority of the people in that city obviously want to stay with Ukraine. Do you want NAF to forcefully take it over and force the people to be a part of Russia (Novorussia)? Wouldn't that make the NAF just as bad as the evil Ukrainian junta? |
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Shouldn't that be 880 - 2014? |
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Brilliant propaganda. Starts with a bold statement, then tries to prove it by talking about non-related stuff. Suggesting that media in any way relates to truth is naive at best. There's strong propaganda, but in no way you can draw a conclusion that "in today’s Russia, the idea of truth is irrelevant". The idea of truth doesn't have anything to do with media and propaganda. So you admin that in Russia, media no longer "in any way relates to truth," and that "truth doesn't have anything to do with media?" Good to know, since that's what we've been claiming all along. Here in "the west," out media still tries to present the truth, and is shamed when it gets caught lying. |
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Don't forget that Dmytro Yarosh got 0.7% of the vote in Ukraine, and is opposed by the majority of Ukrainians, thus is very unlikely to be supported by the currently ruling party in Ukraine. And if the government supports him or his ideas in any way, Ukrainians have already demonstrated their ability to kick out corrupt politicians at least twice. |
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