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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 19, 2015, 02:13:54 AM
https://soundcloud.com/worldcryptonet/transmission-51-expanse-smart-contracts-ethereum-fork

Franko did an in depth interview about Expanse, check it out if you like, thanks! Smiley
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 18, 2015, 11:17:59 PM
james clayton you're an outright scammer. it's hard to tell if you know you are, but you are. you're born with it. your mind plays tricks on you and distorts reality.  maybe you can't see it yourself but others can which is why lots of people hate you.

this project has no transparency. you dumped, sold, 50k EXP so far.  you said it yourself "Nothing was ever dumped, but yes, 50k was sold".

somehow you justify it by comparing yourself to Ethereum. a project which has come up with brand new code.

you have no transparency as to how much was sold in the premine to BTC. where this money was allocated? how much does james clayton get? how about franco? what are hosting fees?

you expect people to support your scam clone projects without any roadmap or plan.

and maybe james clayton needs to look himself in the mirror because he's a bryce weiner level scammer.

franco seems ok. maybe he just found himself in a situation where he's stuck in a james clayton project. then again he does make shitcoins like franco and aiden that don't do anything. it's cool that franco coin is just rotting on cryptsy though.


Much hate. Very disappoint. xD

The answers to your questions are in plain sight but it's very clear you are here to destroy something that has potential. Good day to your sir. I wish you all the best.

Don't like it. Don't be involved. Oh wait.. your not...

To anyone else who wants to think for themselves, perform due diligence. Don't just take the word of some sock puppet hater.

Some people do nothing but FUD and spread hate, and then complain that the price isn't higher while they have been attacking it constantly trying to drive the price down. I never FUD competition or alter screenshots like that guy, which actually is scamming, and have been involved in only a couple projects over many years without hiding my identity. I have offered trading advice in the past, only after people asked me to, and I don't even do that any more as a *few* people like this attack me for helping others, after they asked for help -- What I do when I see people spreading FUD is I just read their past posts to find out their history, and if all they do is FUD and spread hate, then it is pretty clear what they are about.
603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 18, 2015, 11:07:42 PM
lmfao. These guys are scammers. Join the slack to ask questions about the project and made comments about the steep drop in price and lack of price support - and they just kick me. Nice community management. RIP EXP.

I try not to moderate people and it won't happen again, so feel free to offer as much "constructive criticism" as you like in Slack, or wherever, but sometimes it can be a little tiring hearing FUD and personal attacks that are totally unfair. I think overall we have handled it fairly well, but nobody is perfect and now and then it can be a bit much.
604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nexus [Niro] - Pure SHA3 + CPU/GPU + nPoS + 15 Active Innovations + More to Come on: October 18, 2015, 08:30:29 AM
5% really? How could this not screw up with emission model??
Count with me, buy 1M niro, stake 100 years:

1000000
1050000
1102500
1157625
1215506,25
1276281,56
1340095,64
1407100,42
1477455,44
1551328,22
1628894,63
1710339,36
1795856,33
1885649,14
1979931,6
2078928,18
2182874,59
2292018,32
2406619,23
2526950,2
2653297,71
2785962,59
2925260,72
3071523,76
3225099,94
3386354,94
3555672,69
3733456,32
3920129,14
4116135,6
4321942,38
4538039,49
4764941,47
5003188,54
5253347,97
5516015,37
5791816,14
6081406,94
6385477,29
6704751,15
7039988,71
7391988,15
7761587,56
8149666,93
8557150,28
8985007,79
9434258,18
9905971,09
10401269,65
10921333,13
11467399,79
12040769,78
12642808,26
13274948,68
13938696,11
14635630,92
15367412,46
16135783,09
16942572,24
17789700,85
18679185,89
19613145,19
20593802,45
21623492,57
22704667,2
23839900,56
25031895,59
26283490,37
27597664,88
28977548,13
30426425,54
31947746,81
33545134,15
35222390,86
36983510,4
38832685,92
40774320,22
42813036,23
44953688,04
47201372,44
49561441,07
52039513,12
54641488,78
57373563,22
60242241,38
63254353,44
66417071,12
69737924,67
73224820,91
76886061,95
80730365,05
84766883,3
89005227,47
93455488,84
98128263,28
103034676,45
108186410,27
113595730,78
119275517,32
125239293,19
131501257,85

Surprise! Somebody who maintain the wallet after 100 years have 131M coins ! Smiley
After 16y on 5% you double from 1M to 2M.

16 Years is a very long time, and worrying about 100 years out? I think anything 5% and under annually should be fine. If there is also some POW, maybe lower it slightly. The balance is to have enough incentive to bother staking, but not so much that it grows out of control quickly. Doubling in 16 years isn't growing out of control quickly. Once it gets around 10% then it starts to get out of control too quickly IMHO.
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 18, 2015, 07:01:57 AM
Thank you mate. You are vary kind!
Show me your graphics ?

I would just ignore that guy, read his past posts and you can see the type of person he is.

I do like that animated gif you made, it was pretty cool. I also like this thing, not sure who made it...


606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 18, 2015, 05:38:30 AM
lol at james clayton telling people not to worry when they said they bought coins at 200k sats.

devs dump 50k of their premine, no accountability or report of how much was converted to BTC and what it is being used for and allocated.

50k of initial premine ready to dump.

no BTC buy support from coins dumped.

nothing coming up except a GUI wallet that shift, the first ETH clone had at launch.


I told a good friend not to worry about it and that I was making no predictions. You altered the timestamp and misrepresented an out of context statement. Besides, that same friend had made 10x on other advice I gave him, so I am sure he is just fine. Miners and traders did quite well if they traded at the right time, and in case you don't understand crypto trading, prices change, and when people say they are literally not making any predictions, that means you don't take that as a prediction, understand?

Nothing was ever dumped, but yes, 50k was sold, and that is a very small amount. We said from the start we would use 100k to fund initial development and bounties. Much more went on the market from the other ETH alts from their premines, as they paid more in bounties and rewards initially to others, and there is nothing wrong with that either as this actually takes a lot of time to deal with.

The Expanse GUI wallet is already made, custom with audio, and it is amazing, nothing like Ethereum or the offerings from anyone else. We also have a custom block explorer and the DAO is being built. If you lost money on some trade in the past to the point that you feel the need to call my name out over and over, sorry to hear about it, but it happens to us all and it certainly happens to me. Anyway, clearly it wasn't here since you started FUDing us even before we even launched.
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 15, 2015, 12:15:08 AM
I think that Expanse needs more marketing to attract more investors and miners as well. This will have a positive effect in price and demand. If Expanse, could accomplish this (needs to be stronger at advertising) then it could become a very successful alt coin. I'll try my efforts to promote Expanse as well. It is a very good Ethereum clone.  Cheesy

Thanks!

Once everything is in place that will happen from the team. The custom wallet looks like it is finally about ready, I love the audio, came out great! We need to finish the white paper and the DAO, and then yes, we will have lots of advertising from the team itself. We want to have the key custom elements completed first before we focus on advertising, but that will come.
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 11, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
I agree there's a good team behind this coin but why use an Etherum clone?  Roll Eyes

Because ETH is on the death bed and need another huge financial aid or BTC to go to 1000.
With EXP DAO all the sallaries are in EXP thus motivating people to hold and price to reach sustainable levels.
The guys building this coins are legit and good to talk.

Join EXP Slack to see yourself...

But the they have to sell EXP to make a living.

Except we dont have to "sell it", the tokens can be used by themselves to purchase goods and services.

Who's gonna sell any real stuff for these tokens? Even if you convince some merchants, they will dump immediately whatever they get for BTC. Look at buy walls on exchanges, that's real value of your coin with premine combined. Maybe 5 BTC now. The launch was good, you caught some attention, got listed by a few major altcoin exchanges in no time. Right now, most people are gone elsewhere, price and volume are tanking. If you don't come up with anything outstanding, this downtrend will continue.

That is the nice thing about trends, they can change. Anyone that has doubts should wait until they see something outstanding.
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 11, 2015, 02:54:11 PM
I agree there's a good team behind this coin but why use an Etherum clone?  Roll Eyes

Because ETH is on the death bed and need another huge financial aid or BTC to go to 1000.
With EXP DAO all the sallaries are in EXP thus motivating people to hold and price to reach sustainable levels.
The guys building this coins are legit and good to talk.

Join EXP Slack to see yourself...

But the they have to sell EXP to make a living.

Except we dont have to "sell it", the tokens can be used by themselves to purchase goods and services.

I can confirm also that team looks pretty resourceful.
That they can use 100k/month does not mean at all that they have to do it or will do it ....

We started off with about that, 100k for initial expenses and bounties, and have only used half of it so far. So you are correct. Just because some Core requests funding doesn't mean it will be approved, they will need to lay out a convincing argument to the entire DAO for funding approval. Most people will not vote to dillute EXP value unless they think spending/using Expanse will help the project.
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 11, 2015, 02:43:22 PM
I agree there's a good team behind this coin but why use an Etherum clone?  Roll Eyes

Because ETH is on the death bed and need another huge financial aid or BTC to go to 1000.
With EXP DAO all the sallaries are in EXP thus motivating people to hold and price to reach sustainable levels.
The guys building this coins are legit and good to talk.

Join EXP Slack to see yourself...

But the they have to sell EXP to make a living.

If it comes to the point of selling EXP to make a living, then anyone buying now will be in some massive profits later, as our marketcap would have to be vastly higher for that to happen.

(I do own a small business, and Franko and Dan also have other sources of income) -- If Expanse does reach a point where it can sustain lots of developers working on it full time, then that will be amazing and the experiment will be a success. Not only for our team, but for all of those working with us and building it up. That is our goal of course, but nobody has to worry about us selling to make a living unless Expanse becomes a huge success, and if that happens then everyone involved would already be pretty happy about it.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 11, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
I agree there's a good team behind this coin but why use an Etherum clone?  Roll Eyes

We based it on Ethereum as there were some projects that we were already thinking about running on the Ethereum platform, and this allows us our own platform to do them on instead giving us more freedom. This way we can change the foundation a bit and try some new things, and we really wanted to create a self funding DAO system instead of using the ICO model of Ethereum. We believe our model has the ability to create a long lasted self funding sustainable ecosystem that solves some of the problems other crypto platforms are stuck with. (working on the white paper for it now)
612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 09, 2015, 10:35:00 PM
Sold all my exp a while ago.  Exited just barely in time to break even.

I think the issue with pump & dump came from the fact that this is one of the only legit looking cryptos to come out of the altcoin section in ages.

Everyone recognized this and so they were waiting for exp to hit exchanges.  It got pumped like crazy, probably thanks to some ETH money flowing in as well.  Then people dumped it back down when they realized the price couldn't remain stable with the rate of inflation.

Good luck with the project guys, I will keep an eye on it to see if there's a good time to pick up some exp again.

I think that sounds about right. My own expectations were that would would have massive hashing power, I expected it popular right away at least in that regard, and then slowly get on exchanges and build up the price/value. Obviously it went crazy right away and hit all the main exchanges within 24 hours. In order to maintain that price it would be difficult, but there is no reason we can't build it up over time now since our marketcap is extremely low at this point. So thanks, and yes, good idea to keep an eye on it. Smiley
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 08, 2015, 03:06:13 AM
It doesn't matter.. price will adjust. For 100 satoshi the premine is cool.

Also premine has nothing to do with decetralization.

It is supposed that you don't need trust when it comes to cryptocurency and blockchain.

When you add trust you add scam. Sooner or later.. Same think with goverments, banks and religion. Good luck to believers Smiley

That's sort of my point exactly. The 11 million coins are just a giant value destroyer and we can't trust that they go to any project of value. It would be ok if the dev fund was reasonable but with a few hundred thousand coins in existence and 90%+ premined in a 'fund' it's just not even worth paying attention to this project anymore.

I mean common, EXP is down 99% since it started trading with 395,193 mined and 11 million in a 'dapp fund' that can and likely will dilute the market 25% on a weekly basis. The market has spoken, and it absolutely amazing that the devs don't listen.

I find it sad, cause I do believe the devs are competent. Just apparently don't care about preserving any value in the project, or having anyone mine (mining Hash power is down something like 80% in 3 weeks)

What is obvious to me is that some group manipulated the market early on. Some "Mrpump" guy came in here and claimed it was his group or some whales connected to him. This created a very high starting price and a problem for us as that had to correct, and of course some will blame the devs when we had absolutely nothing to do with that, other than working on the project that some saw they could use to manipulate the price with. I had no idea that was the situation until someone literally came into this thread and said it was. The positive is that they saw value and this is long term project, and in my personal opinion at least, will have much more value in the future, the negative is that they created a situation where the price was too high at the start. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, and this is also why there were so many miners early on, but we still have plenty mining EXP now.

You are incorrect that the DAO fund will dilute the market like that, 1/220th of the DAO was used to cover some initial expenses, and pay the one bounty we owed for the branding/logo. We do have a large reserve for the DAO that will be released with smart contracts and with in wallet voting, but that won't happen for some time, and when it does it will be capped to a maximum of 1% per month, or .33% per core for a total of 1%. Smart contracts mean it will not be possible for any 25% market dilution, and if we were dishonest, obviously we would have sold more than 1/220th off, and anyone that thinks logically about this can see this is the truth. Sure, we could burn much of the DAO off and some would like that, and it would be great short term, and if there is a way for POS interest to fund the project with a smaller reserve this isn't out of the question later.

As we are doing some custom solutions they are taking more time, but we believe they will provide something unique rather than just cloning the same basic GUI wallet, or cloning the same basic block explorer. We have been in cryptos and very public for many years. We are not going anywhere and we have lots of connections in the world of cryptos. Once we add enough value in, I think people are likely to realize the project is severely underpriced, and then I think we will gain more attention. One of our core devs is a Dapp dev, we have tens of thousands of real followers between us on Social media, and we have time to work on the project and incentive to build it. We definitely care about preserving value, but not faking it, so whatever the market determines is just fine and we can build it up from there. As for hashing power, that will change as profitability changes, and if/when the profit goes up, more miners will surely mine more. Although we have plenty of hashing power to support the network just fine now.

As experienced DevTeam you should figure out that something unusual was happened. Just sort of responsible  you owe to community. I am not angry and do not blame anyone. But in fact this kind of situation produce negative feelings related to cryptocurrencies.  Unfortunately - one more time.

I think you misunderstand, nothing unusual has happened whatsoever. This is normally what happens with new coins and platforms if they have any perceived value. Love or hate it, people will trade and take their profits, or losses, and be happy or sad accordingly. Then some will move on and others will stay, then however price discovery and long term development can happen for real. For any legit project at least, and this is certainly one of those.

We have great branding and we have an honest experienced team, that isn't hiding like most at this price. Transparency that is real, and a design to fund the project long term. We have realistic goals rather than impossible fake promises and fake roadmaps, but we are planning big, while also considering the time it will take to get there. We also have some of the best exchanges and we are just starting. Not to hype, but I believe in the project.
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 07, 2015, 07:02:51 PM
It doesn't matter.. price will adjust. For 100 satoshi the premine is cool.

Also premine has nothing to do with decetralization.

It is supposed that you don't need trust when it comes to cryptocurency and blockchain.

When you add trust you add scam. Sooner or later.. Same think with goverments, banks and religion. Good luck to believers Smiley

That's sort of my point exactly. The 11 million coins are just a giant value destroyer and we can't trust that they go to any project of value. It would be ok if the dev fund was reasonable but with a few hundred thousand coins in existence and 90%+ premined in a 'fund' it's just not even worth paying attention to this project anymore.

I mean common, EXP is down 99% since it started trading with 395,193 mined and 11 million in a 'dapp fund' that can and likely will dilute the market 25% on a weekly basis. The market has spoken, and it absolutely amazing that the devs don't listen.

I find it sad, cause I do believe the devs are competent. Just apparently don't care about preserving any value in the project, or having anyone mine (mining Hash power is down something like 80% in 3 weeks)

What is obvious to me is that some group manipulated the market early on. Some "Mrpump" guy came in here and claimed it was his group or some whales connected to him. This created a very high starting price and a problem for us as that had to correct, and of course some will blame the devs when we had absolutely nothing to do with that, other than working on the project that some saw they could use to manipulate the price with. I had no idea that was the situation until someone literally came into this thread and said it was. The positive is that they saw value and this is long term project, and in my personal opinion at least, will have much more value in the future, the negative is that they created a situation where the price was too high at the start. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, and this is also why there were so many miners early on, but we still have plenty mining EXP now.

You are incorrect that the DAO fund will dilute the market like that, 1/220th of the DAO was used to cover some initial expenses, and pay the one bounty we owed for the branding/logo. We do have a large reserve for the DAO that will be released with smart contracts and with in wallet voting, but that won't happen for some time, and when it does it will be capped to a maximum of 1% per month, or .33% per core for a total of 1%. Smart contracts mean it will not be possible for any 25% market dilution, and if we were dishonest, obviously we would have sold more than 1/220th off, and anyone that thinks logically about this can see this is the truth. Sure, we could burn much of the DAO off and some would like that, and it would be great short term, and if there is a way for POS interest to fund the project with a smaller reserve this isn't out of the question later.

As we are doing some custom solutions they are taking more time, but we believe they will provide something unique rather than just cloning the same basic GUI wallet, or cloning the same basic block explorer. We have been in cryptos and very public for many years. We are not going anywhere and we have lots of connections in the world of cryptos. Once we add enough value in, I think people are likely to realize the project is severely underpriced, and then I think we will gain more attention. One of our core devs is a Dapp dev, we have tens of thousands of real followers between us on Social media, and we have time to work on the project and incentive to build it. We definitely care about preserving value, but not faking it, so whatever the market determines is just fine and we can build it up from there. As for hashing power, that will change as profitability changes, and if/when the profit goes up, more miners will surely mine more. Although we have plenty of hashing power to support the network just fine now.
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 05, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
Great job NRpatten! Nice to see someone from the community stepping up and helping others like this.

Smiley

https://github.com/nrpatten/expanse-proxy
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 03, 2015, 06:26:40 PM
Hey devs,

Opposite to many people here, I'm pretty happy with how you've been handling the situation until now.  I'm holding for the future ☺

Same here, it is not easy to see who is behind a coin nowadays and we have 3 talented devs + a great community(http://slack.expanse.tech) ready to make of this project something huge, many people worry about (Reserve: 11 Million) but this will be Managed by Community votes, this funds are the engine that will keep this project alive because money doesn't fall from the sky as we wish and many real devs are tired of drawing funds of their own pockets, price is down now because some traders are trying to buy cheaper but after GUI wallet release price must go up and be more stable.  Cheesy, buy or mine EXP now or  Cry forever.   

Thanks, that means a lot. We are designing this to be something that can last many years and evolve. It is easy to make something that is short term and just put out a bunch of hype and then abandon it as happens with most alts on Bitcointalk, but we are building the foundation for a sandbox that the community and new talent can build out all sorts of ideas and experiment with over the long run, and the community and 3rd party devs can be greatly rewarded for participation in Expanse. The huge rise at the start was a bit of a problem for us as it was unexpected, but the positive is that likely helped us quickly get on so many exchanges, so it isn't all bad. The price does seem to finally be leveling off now, Hash power is up quite a bit, and developments are on the way. Any positive messages mean a lot to us. Smiley
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 03, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Reallyredrum, funny.

In all seriousness selling pressure is a major concern with any crypto platform. If it is from mining, or premined funds, or bounties paid. All of that potentially can be sold. So managing it with smart contracts connected to public voting is a unique way to manage and control funding in a democratic way to limit selling pressure while still providing funding for development. I actually think that it is best to consider anything released will be selling pressure, even though some will hold, many will just cash out. So ideally funds must be spent on 3rd party projects or promotions that bring in more value than they take out.

The accounts are public, the projects funds will be released for will all be public. Everything is transparent. So people can decide if they think it is being done right or not with each months votes. They can also be a part of it and perhaps be paid for contributions themselves, if they can add value. Once we have the Hackathon there will be rewards even for those that refer the winning entries. Of course those people can just sell and I would expect it, but if they build something great and that adds value to Expanse, that should increase demand and the value of the platform.
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 02, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
This coin price will rise, great dev behind it Smiley

Price will rise, diff is ok i`m mining and waiting the right price Smiley

With 11kk premine and 357k coins mined for almost the whole month? You gotta be kidding.


implying cryptocurrency is rational that's so sweet!

People that are rational know that development needs funding. 90% of it is set aside for others, not the team, not the founders. Giveaways, a Hackathon we are planning, and countless other options are possible with funding set aside. We can do this without an ICO, and without any risk of it being dumped on people. Some options out there are 100% premined, some are premined with an ICO on top of that. The addresses are all public and this is designed to essentially last indefinitely, rather than a couple weeks or months at the most.

Here is a blog post I wrote that explains various funding options for crypto currency platforms and goes into detail for Expanse. This might be too much to read for some, but if you want to understand it, check it out:

http://blog.expanse.tech

This is different and perhaps we/I need to explain it better, but in time we will even have step by step videos showing proof with smart contracts, so that everyone can understand it that can watch a video.

Here is a chart that shows how funds will be distributed in the future, by consensus of the community and holders:

619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 01, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
Does Expanse have an operational wallet yet?  I've seen the pictures of some of the development, but is it out yet?  If so, has anyone tried it out?  THanks for any info....!

There is a non GUI wallet if you need to solo mine or can't wait, check the links in the OP.

If you are more interested in the custom GUI wallet being made and want to test it out, or just see how it looks so far, join Slack and there is a channel in that for it. http://slack.expanse.tech

Just understand that testing it means you do not use it for any large amounts of coins and all the disclaimers that go along with testing. You should wait until everything is updated and it is made available to the public if you want to actually use it.
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 01, 2015, 04:06:43 PM
Lets see if mr pump had right info Smiley so fr price is down

For the record, groups like that do seek out value for manipulations in cryptos. This has absolutely nothing to do with posting about cryptos, other than they might see value from information, and nothing to do with me personally despite what some haters might make up. Prices will go up and down and traders have to do their own research and take their own risks. It is amusing people get blamed for prices not going up forever, but that isn't how trading works. If you like Expanse, mine and hold some or find a good entry point. Don't listen to anyone spreading FUD or HYPE, just check it out yourself and do your own research. We are working on some cool stuff and are excited about it, but the huge rise at the start was unexpected, and hopefully we are getting closer to realistic price discovery now. Thanks!
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