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Whew, I removed that. Didn't remember to remove the stuff, sorry again.
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PS: Guys, I think narayan's already banned.
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I got this PM directly just now from friedcat directly, cheers! I'll release the funds to coco after I get to my safe, cheers! Friedcat, please let John and me both know about the transferring. Friedcat,
Please transfer the 386 shares to these people.
My email address: @gmail.com
My bitcoin address:1BH67djS52m9BdhrviqovdJtRsN7NWVT4s
Shares: 471 before this transaction
.... (removed by John)
Signature:
HHZM+E8xaPnsEGK7NxFplXE580Ut8bmuQ5YeNbRI69gt4tT3peTeci2oBc3hb35yVURIUyM7jo0k6lzkMSSrtDo=
Hi all, The transferring is done. Thanks. Best regards, friedcat |
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Waiting for the guys at sales (@T) hashfast.com to get back to me regarding the method to pay...
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Ordering in a moment, sorry again guys as I had a family emergency.
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This is plain stupid
Bruce Wagner, pirateat40, etc...
one of the trust factors... i don't know the nicknames you writed, but of course trusting only reg date is not a good idea. You can't beat all scammers, but you can reduce scammers in your community by taking some steps in managing of community I just meant that the problem is the trust people put in old members. If it is widely known that accounts can be bought, this trust disappears. IMO this is the better way to reduce scammers.
Well, this. No point giving the new users a false sense of security. If anything, the account selling threads probably gave newbies a nasty shock and the awareness of scams. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Please note that I have yet to receive the collateral in shares as stated here. I will confirm the receipt in a separate post when done.
The escrow address for DyslexicZombei's group buy is:
1KWAtXU2tNEUGpB7ksi4fEumJeXqZDCfdA
Please state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand.
If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery.
GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition.
Do note that I am only responsible for the funds up to the point it is sent to HashFast/CoinTerra.
Any losses incurred by HashFast/CoinTerra's or DyslexicZombei's failure to ship/pay out dividends will not be borne by me, but I will liquidate the shares held by me (currently worth about 5BTC) to pay the shareholders back partially if DyslexicZombei fails to pay out the dividends. Please note that I do not hold any form of ID of DyslexicZombei here, nor any personal contact information.
The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of. On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.
Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.
I am imposing a fixed and nonrefundable fee of 2.2% for this transaction, to be deducted when the funds are moved or otherwise. If the group buy fails due to the lack of interest, 1.1% of the fee will be released back to DyslexicZombei.
Thank you.
John (the escrow holder)
16 August 2013
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PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.
Which is perfectly understandable. You were not the one banning him for voicing out his opinion about this Garr255 scam thing trolling... I wish you were in charge here, actually. Ooops, did I just troll?  Seriously, theymos, I understand you might have felt uneasy about some of his posts, but this really looks like an abuse of power. You need to let people express what they think, including conspiracy theories about you, too. That's one of the burdens that comes with your position. If people were not globally trusting you, this forum wouldn't be the shade of what it is, you're safe and don't have to fear those random rants! Please relax and reconsider!  Well, to be honest here I don't think theymos can please everyone.  I remember that we got a lot of requests for Matthew to be banned after the Pirate event too. I guess if we went for the all-ban policy for scammers Matthew wouldn't be around to amend his bet by repaying partially here... |
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He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.
Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.
As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period. But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around. I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate. Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin.
The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.
Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit! PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here. |
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Hi daniel, I had my shares up for sale and ivan was going to buy them, the BTC was in escrow and we were waiting for the OP to come back online to transfer the ownership of shares.
Ivan: I have messaged john regarding your refund.
OP: I would like a refund as this group buy really doesn't seem feasible anymore especially considering the added burdens you are suffering from. Sorry for any inconvenience caused but I would like my 6 BTC to be refunded at your earliest convenience. Thanks
PS: Refunded as detailed via PM. I've PM'ed OP and prodigits7 (which is helping him in RL to get stuff straightened out) to refund you guys here as I see this GB's going nowhere. So should we request a refund from you or just sit back and we will get refunded soon? Hi daniel, I had my shares up for sale and ivan was going to buy them, the BTC was in escrow and we were waiting for the OP to come back online to transfer the ownership of shares.
Ivan: I have messaged john regarding your refund.
OP: I would like a refund as this group buy really doesn't seem feasible anymore especially considering the added burdens you are suffering from. Sorry for any inconvenience caused but I would like my 6 BTC to be refunded at your earliest convenience. Thanks
PS: Refunded as detailed via PM. I've PM'ed OP and prodigits7 (which is helping him in RL to get stuff straightened out) to refund you guys here as I see this GB's going nowhere. So should we request a refund from you or just sit back and we will get refunded soon? My addy is 1F7YfPrRuoCdkyJRz1to9tnogwqi6Kxar3. No, I do not and have not held any coins for this group buy at all. I merely have raging's contact information. It's up to him to refund you guys here. |
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I will buy 1 from you
Please ask johnk or somebody big about escrow. I live in Poland
UPS or fedex shipping please
I can do UPS today if you like. I think John K is on vacation. If you need escrow, I would ask that you be the one to initially select someone since you're paying the escrow fee. As long as they have a decent history on bitcointalk and many positive reviews, I will have no problems using them. I just ask that you arrange it since it is ultimately for your benefit and protection. PM me or email since I am heading out. Nah, I'm back since a long time ago. I've PM'ed you guys, thanks again dogie! |
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I have send friedcat a notice, by both PM and email.
I will transfer the dividend after John. K released the fund.
I confirm that I've been CC'ed the transfer request too. |
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I have info for CrazyGuy about his stolen Avalon I think.  He started this topic : "[BOUNTY] Info leading to criminal arrest in ASIC Theft. Escrow via John K." about 2 months ago .I try to answer or send private message to CrazyGuy but all newbies are closed for post answering or messages. So please if someone nows him, tell about this topic, or if you are reading , CrazyGuy, answer .  I've PM'ed him to answer this, thanks. |
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PS: Can you post the entire email header here (taking out your email addy if you want) LOL. Theymos sounds like my Nigerian prince promising me my own island!
Hey you got the same donation address as me. Must be a coincidence related to the bad random generator on Android What? I'm afraid you missed a joke... Oops, was too tired when I posted this.  |
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Unlike Paypal, John doesn't have a history of abuse, doesn't blanket ban transaction types, and you deal with the same level-headed guy every time. Until there's reason to doubt him, I'd never suggest someone not use someone who's had the opportunity to steal millions of $ in BTC and never takes it. There are plenty of alternatives, but when introducing third-party risk, you want them to have a long and spotless history -- nobody fills that as well as John (speaking as someone who offers free escrow).
With all that - John IS an easy choice, so there aren't going to be many alternatives. Competition's always good, but nobody can out-compete him AFAIK, largely because he has such an established history, and asking less in fees than him is practically impossible. So while it's not decentralized - if you're serious about securing contracts, you can't do better than having the PM page for John bookmarked.
It's for the same reason I wouldn't recommend someone use a new wallet from a team nobody's ever heard of over the established and reviewed wallet software which's been out for years. Trust and reputation's worth a fortune when conventional legal systems are too cumbersome.
Good to know, thanks! The risk with John K is probably that he doesn't have an institution around him that can survive his passing. If he were to have a heart attack today and die (not wishing it on him!), is there a substantial chance that all the funds in his btc escrow account would remain there, possibly forever locked away? Does he have a contingency plan? Hey, I do have a dead-man's switch in place as all the addresses I use are cold wallets printed and stored physically in my safe. I regularly back my escrow list of transactions up to two off-site locations, and in the case of me and my family's incapacitation my family lawyer is authorized to release the funds accordingly with the list. However, I still make it a point to not keep too much of escrow funds at once - I try to move through escrows as fast as possible to not have too much risk that I cannot cover using my own BTC funds at once. That's why escrows that might take longer (say, 2-3 weeks +) is charged a higher fee here. I don't hold more than 5k BTC in escrow at the moment, barring long term storage like the forum's funds (that I started to hold part of since I was a moderator). I've used John K but I've not understood this forums huge drive towards escrowing everything with him. It seems like the easy way out of doing any sort of due diligence. Seems to be the exact opposite of what bitcoin is all about. It's like John K became PayPal of this bitcoin forum.
Well, the main function escrow is all about is to gain the minimal trust required to start trading - most users I've escrowed for (at 624th escrow now  ) eventually 'grow out' from using escrows to trade and start doing transactions of their own. As a long time Bitcoin user, I absolutely welcome this as this is the initial idea I had when I started offering escrow services. I was tired of users complaining to me that Bitcoin's system makes scams easy with the pseudo-anonymity allowed, and there wasn't a reliable infrastructure in place for people to trade safely and build up trust to ease transactions. PayPal is an altogether different beast in itself as there is still loopholes and bumps where scammers can still thrive. In Bitcoin, you can eliminate 3rd party risk altogether if you choose to use a 3-of-2 FA escrow implementation, where no single party can access the coin by himself. You'll just need to trust that the 3rd party isn't collaborating with the other party to scam you here. (thanks again to Kluge for pointing me here!  ) |
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Hi daniel, I had my shares up for sale and ivan was going to buy them, the BTC was in escrow and we were waiting for the OP to come back online to transfer the ownership of shares.
Ivan: I have messaged john regarding your refund.
OP: I would like a refund as this group buy really doesn't seem feasible anymore especially considering the added burdens you are suffering from. Sorry for any inconvenience caused but I would like my 6 BTC to be refunded at your earliest convenience. Thanks
PS: Refunded as detailed via PM. I've PM'ed OP and prodigits7 (which is helping him in RL to get stuff straightened out) to refund you guys here as I see this GB's going nowhere. |
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Hmm... I kind of assumed that the resellers would buy from AM and then resell (hence it is a "re" sell). Do you think that AsicMiner is only getting the profits after the customer buys a blade from the reseller?
I think resellers have minimum orders, and those funds are released to the dividends once those orders are shipped. I don't know how many units have been shipped, but I doubt everything has shipped out. This - I think that only a small part of the hardware sale funds are in yet so far. We'll have to wait 1-2 weeks before they're actually sent to the div wallet I guess... |
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Hello John
I talked to your partner today, the one with a xxx telephone number.
The shipment that arrived June 11 is held by customs at the NYACC warehouse in New York. US Customs agent put it on hold for inspection and as of today has not inspected or released or made any decision on status.
We have contacted customs daily asking for a decision and or release .
I have a team member meeting with them next week to see if we can have some action and answers
We will keep you informed
Regards ^Reply received from sf-express just now. I guess the sample chips are indeed in limbo here... |
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JohnK - can you investigate who this "Gary" is and get his number / confirm current situation? If a guy that appears out of the blue can get in touch by phone and get a status update, surely you would be able to get in touch too to appease the crowds/verify the info?
To raging/friend: it is in your best interest to have JohnK/Ryepdx verify how/who you get in touch with from Avalon/Gary (Who is this guy?). This buy appears more and more like a scam, particularly due to you being the only ones able to get updates (despite a lot of folks trying to)
The Gary mentioned here has a sf-express.com email address as given by ragingazn to me not long ago, which is the company involved in sending the chips. (it's a courier service based in China) I'm currently drafting an email to him to get the situation clear here. PS: The tracking info indeed mentions that it's been held at the customs, just for the record. |
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JohnK - can you investigate who this "Gary" is and get his number / confirm current situation? If a guy that appears out of the blue can get in touch by phone and get a status update, surely you would be able to get in touch too to appease the crowds/verify the info?
To raging/friend: it is in your best interest to have JohnK/Ryepdx verify how/who you get in touch with from Avalon/Gary (Who is this guy?). This buy appears more and more like a scam, particularly due to you being the only ones able to get updates (despite a lot of folks trying to)
The Gary mentioned here has a sf-express.com email address as given by ragingazn to me not long ago, which is the company involved in sending the chips. (it's a courier service based in China) I'm currently drafting an email to him to get the situation clear here. |
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