Nah, you don't get the joke don't you.  Who in his right frame of mind lends half a mil USD to someone anonymous with a throwaway forum account? |
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Oh God, Kluge definitely can be trusted for that paltry 1 BTC.  Just drop me a PM if you still need my escrow services. I think I can be trusted with 1 BTC, no?  |
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I don't think I've binned any of your posts yet.
maybe got slightly paranoid...  But anyway would like to see what content you are bining. many thanks for understanding for newbies question M. I bin begging, trolling, content less threads. |
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I don't think I've binned any of your posts yet.
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Confirmed and banned him. |
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Malaysia/Singapore seems high on your list according to the features given above.  |
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I confirm that I've successfully escrowed 400 shares for Rastapool just now. The funds are released to him already after friedcat's direct confirmation to me.
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50@2.0
Nooo! PS: Just joking above - thanks again for bidding lol I'll probably get out bid, but I thought I'd get things started! Thanks again for getting this started. |
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Thank very much John (John K.). Then the price 0.079 include the scrow fee
Yes, from what I see here. |
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Please note that only 1 bump per day is allowed.
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50@2.0
Nooo! PS: Just joking above - thanks again for bidding |
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Don't really see the point in bidding till you know what the price is on the 20th. We might fall back to 1.50 on BTC-TC by the 20th and then I'd feel pretty silly having a bid for 2 here, wouldn't I Yeah, I have a feeling this would work out better as max(btct.co, bit under, Havelock*100) Nah, I'm in no hurry to part with my shares. *John hugs his shares close, whispering 'myyyy preciousssss'* |
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Escrow contract: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RWKMSbSbThanks, John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The escrow address for t13hydra's group buy would be: 12o8iQqAve6yN6QnjhVg1yuaASb66jPJhs Please state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand. If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition. The fine print: This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org. The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of. On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos. The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract. Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction. I am imposing a fixed fee of 2% for this transaction, pre-paid (or otherwise) to 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz . Thank you. John (the escrow holder) 2 May 2013 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRgdrDAAoJEINT5jezqu6wRI8P/3BVECO53o0jv/3peRyf06j0 pKIigTWDPRrlLXhwxC9jNuUTsBP1ZNklhLqsf9XPTUGUdhMtg5l0Yjukt7QuZJTn K5RdLylg3YyFs5SkIzFfkL9VAOAU60LAYLrpsZjUk4Qki1PU3R1haodoB7B9/5oG p7U7QQXgFBqKr64mJqDcMjrdvWpm0WquqqSmPtPhWYpdOEdu9QVxD5WsGDqPOW3S J6IbiQQxu3rZaKMWZemRrs8jLJQDPZjHJcCfg/jxwmZxPB87HGAkckcE2AJ/MLPh dl6E5PFHbOLPYAbtf8XpoIJMuDzX9qFK/4qmWw8C1pj68mzixGo562SVG8jUHXth K6bj13iXFS6G+0LYWzPJB9muP8i3EWRxbOLlqZsK0hioBBOuc1d9+WvjmrAWdrDJ 7MlZ5ATL9V/Dn4No5IryumoxZORIdrvuHK1OJieDmqF2sIeCqbNM9NqslJ0MeNuV khE5pdQZ/i/n8aMjocQyWN+tkAfNLyhELX9F5Uusk9zJ1jffXXrZyuU/4dMCuLlt 36qyo15alav0nNagXHrvauinEt+kJPVXWF/VQdHzMMZnXqT4nSnUH/Lx7UHEhE6G lO6cLvo0lanfq3+WY1LaKaQuFSgHGmwzX5sy0c0k5udNHZeOwe2d9RvZJ49W7ETP 6TYyaTcMrnCCl7M3EoXt =KvuC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- A question, i have to send the btc for the chips (example 80chips=6.32btc) to 12o8iQqAve6yN6QnjhVg1yuaASb66jPJhs and then 2% for escrow (in this example 0.1264 btc) to 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz Is this correct? Nah, just drop everything into the escrow address seeing that everyone's going that way. I'll deduct the needed fees etc when the escrow is ready to send the funds to Avalon. (much like what I did for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195052.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 ) If I'm not wrong, only th3joker paid his escrow fee to 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz beforehand. ....
so I pay ecsrow to John K and then when you pay order it goes to avalon, then I wait, 10'000 get delivered to you, and you don't run away with them, make units, and send them out? does seem risky.
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As per this, I'm ready to verify OP's identity to hold in escrow should something goes wrong, to reassure potential investors. A sample of what I verified for two other completed group buys is here: first - the price is at least 25% too high. these will be mass-made in only a few months time, probably by the time these are received and reshipped...
second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?
um... escrow? and these are supposedly shipping in about 2 weeks... Just using the word "escrow" doesn't really answer the poster's question. 1. AM gets the BTC 2. Operator gets the hardware 3. Associates (buyers) hope the operator ships their units. 300 * 1.99 = approx 70,000 USD (at the moment). The escrow agent is holding his identity as a guarantee, yet in reply#95 of this thread the operator tells us his name. The escrow agent has since not disputed it. A simple google search tells anybody more than they need to know. klondike_bar has a real question that hasn't really been answered. There is a small matter of 70k worth of goods that are not really protected by a damn thing. I'm not claiming the operator will flee with the goods, but it has been done for a lot less. My order in this group-buy still stands, but the question needs an answer. EDIT: - After posting, I saw the operators post with his number et al. Maybe that will be an answer. Anyway, I'm sticking with my bid.I confirm that I have received (via email to my GPG email address) that I received: 1. State driver's license snap belonging to Arklan Uth Oslin. 2. Aklan's self-portrait (via mirror and phone cam) along with his driver's license in hand. 3. Official document mailed and addressed to Arklan, address different from the one in his driver's license but he has given me the explanation on that. I expect to be giving this address to friedcat for the shipping. 4. Arklan standing in front of his door with the house number in sight clearly. (matching his address above) 5. A digital insurance policy made out to Arklan and the address above. Some Q&A's on the escrow here (copied from a past group buy I did): 1) Is that contract binding between you and ragingazn628, or is it binding between you and all parties participating in this group buy (Group Buyers)? It would be binding with all parties involved up to when I submit the order (and the funds) to friedcat. The funds are guaranteed with me up to this point. Afterwards, it would be between the buyers and Arklan, but please note that my obligation of most of the funds is over once I pass this over to friedcat.(so if friedcat or Arklan fails to ship or anything I'm not in fault although this is very unlikely). 2) What will you do if Arklan keeps the chips for himself? I would provide all information that I have in hand for this transaction to the public, and probably assist in any litigation/legal enforcement efforts. 3) Do I understand correctly that we (the group buyers) will deliver the full payment to you (John), including Arklan's 1% fee, and you will hold that 1% fee in escrow? Yes. I will forward the funds to friedcat when the preorder opens, and keep Arklan's fee in escrow. I will ask friedcat to document that I have indeed sent the funds in. (and judging from previous auctions I've done for him, this will be required by him anyway) 4) Have you done anything to verify Arklan's identity and destination shipping address? See above. PS: Arklan, please add this to the OP to prevent more questions of the kind coming in. (and this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195052.msg2037964#msg2037964) |
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Mining is a HORRIBLE investment period. There is nothing wrong with mining if you think of it as some sort of techy hobby... but as a business decision, Horrible. As a gambling decision, Horrible too. http://satoshidice.com/. Nah, it depends on what you're using to mine them, and your electrical costs. |
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Whitelisted to post at other parts of the forum. Welcome!
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I think I just banned OP's alt (Name: theym0s Suppors Scammers) for spamming like crazy in the newbie subsection. Apparently his current account got banned as theymos was 'protecting' mc_lovin, who scammed him out of about 10 cents USD. A background search shows OP of being defrauded of a few cents by BTCJam from network fees too before. That drama... |
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right there! He posted 10 seconds before me! It's impossible for it to be my account, retard. Stop throwing out names, fucking hall monitor.
1. Have 2 windows open on 2 different accounts, 1 in tor maybe. 2. Type in a reply to a thread 3. Hit 'Post' a few seconds apart. Done.  Yeah, having 2 laptops on the same desk makes this "literally impossible" become child's play. Why no scammer tag, yet, theymos ? I banned both of them. Waiting for theymos to tag. |
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