I did. I know what it is. I want to know why YOU want a global soviet empire.

Ok, I read about it. Now tell me why you are so against a multipolar world (where USA is offset by Russia, Europe, and China), and want a unipolar world (where USA and Europe have collapsed, and Russia rules everything)?

And by the way, despite what bullshit Russian media have fed you, I actually know the people who were protesting on Maidan, and the reasons they were protesting. It was not because of anything America said it did, it was ENTIRELY because of what Yanukovich did. So if you believe that the West and USA paid Yanukovich to cut freedoms and reform government to give himself dictatorial powers, you are nuts!

Mexico doesn't NEED to be free of US, you fucking moron. It IS free, and has a good economic trading relationship with US. US is not interested in invading Mexico, and Mexico is not afraid of US (unlike Russia that thinks Ukraine is a part of them they want to take back, and Ukraine that has been lied to and attacked by Russia for over 200 years).

Well ok then...


I seriously doubt that.

Luckily, many of us will not be affected, because we use Bitcoin. Unlike Russians, where bitcoin is illegal, then not illegal, and then again illegal.

Do you know what it means to have debts? It means USA has $17 trillion (or $200 trillion) or OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. It has all that money, much of which is in the form of tanks and planes, in USA, not elsewhere. And those other people DO NOT want USA to default on those debts, because they want to make sure that USA pays them back (countries like China for example).

What do you suppose will happen if the West goes out? Who will take their place? Soviet Russia and China? Do you SERIOUSLY want that??? Besides, I thought we were all for technologies like bitcoin undermining governments and establishing a more free world, not for military dictatorships taking over failed empires. WTF.

Maybe USA should invade Russia and put millions of russians into extermination camps, because Hitler did it too. Or better yet, NATO should nuke Moscow, civilians and all, because USA nuked Hiroshima once. I mean, if some other country did it, it must be ok, right?

I don't get it. If those Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine want to break off from Ukraine, then why is it bad to arm them all? Won't it help them protect themselves from Ukrainian army? And why would they even suggest arming the citizens, if they didn't support them and supported Ukrainian government? Something here doesn't add up

(but it adds up perfectly if the citizens did NOT support separatists, and wanted to protect themselves from them and from russian invaders)

ZeroHedge is not a financial blog, as it is a libertarian political blog. And a lot of Libertarians were duped by Russian propaganda, simply because they are typically very anti-establishment. So when Ukraine, Europe, and Russia started saying that Putin was creating propaganda, instigating war, and invading Ukraine like some military dictator, they went anti-establishment and started defending Putin... except in this case the establishment was actually right.

Did you pull that out of your own ass? Or out of Putin's ass?


That was probably because by the time referendum was even brought up, Russia has spent so much time spreading sensationalist and fear-mongering propaganda around Ukraine that any referendum would no longer have been objective, and based entirely on lies. Remember that stuff about protesters in Maidan being mostly Right Sector? Or that Ukraine supports Right Sector and will elect Nazis to government? (when in actuality Nazis got less than 2% support) Russia even tried to hack Ukrainian voting machines to make Right Sector president win the election, with the virus thankfully discovered and stopped before elections took place, but since the IT people did not tell anyone about finding the virus, Russia accidentally reported that Right Sector won, by the exact amount the virus was going to make him win, and were caught put publicly.

So, sure, Kiev denying the referendum may have been one of the key causes, but Russian propaganda and lies was THE key cause that started it all.

Sad thing is, these sanctions can be stopped almost instantly, if Russia simply denounces those who have illegally entered another country and are fighting a foreign military, stopped (not promised, but *stopped*) supplying military troops and hardware to those fighters, and stopped its obvious, massive, anti-Ukraine propaganda campaign. But of course that will never happen, as Russia sees no problems with their citizens "voluntarily" invading other countries and killing other people (troops or civilians), never admits it has done anything wrong, and is completely incapable of not lying, after doing it nonstop for the last 100 years.

Actually it's the opposite. India wages have gone up exponentially, and a lot of the coders there got used to the idea that they work at a company for a year, then quit, go to another new foreign company, and make twice as much. Now everyone demands too much money, and it's impossible to keep employees for more than a year. India is no longer competitive compared to many other countries. In China the problem is similar, but not as bad, where a lot of Chinese companies are competing for developers, and are just raising the wages themselves to be able to retain their employees. Now it is very hard to find software developers (and workers in many industries) in China, and although many of the companies remained the same and employees are loyal, their wages are getting as high as India and other parts of the world too.

The only places left where software developer wages are still low are places like SouthEast Asia and Africa, where education isn't that great, and thus number of software developers is low, and places like Russia and Eastern Europe, where education has always been really good, and there are a lot of desperate software developers with nothing to do. So the race is at the top, India and China are almost at the finish line, and it'll be Ukraine's turn soon.

P.S. CSC, the largest IT services and outsourcing company in the world, is not even looking at India and China any more, but are looking into places like Malasia, Kenya, and Eastern Europe.

Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.

Fiat didn't "win" over the gold standard. We were all using the gold standard, and then whoever was issuing those gold backed notes for us just decided to break his promise. The "win" was based entirely on fraud.

Not true:

Very soon. It's basically functional in testnet at this point, but still has some bugs to iron out, and to be implemented in LocalTrader correctly. It will probably be out by the time Mycelium Entropy devices ship.

I was having plenty of problems about that! I was just convinced that much of that shelling was done by the separatists, not Ukrainian military. The first round of GRAD rockets fired in this war was by the separatists against Ukrainian army. You guys posted a lot of videos of separatists firing mortar shells, which are not at all accurate. If Ukraine is shelling residential areas, they are likely abandoned and taken over by these separatists. The videos you guys yourselves posted, of areas after shelling, show the city completely empty. And it's a well proven tactic of Russia to do something, and then blame the other side of doing it.


You know that defecting to the other side is not an option, because Russia doesn't have a justice system. Their only option is to quit and disappear, which, as you yourselves reported, many did.



THEY ARE NOT THE SAME GODAMN NATION! Do you claim that Spain and Italy are the same Latin nation? Of course not. This is why there has always been conflict between Russia and Ukraine: Russia thinks Ukraine is the same Slavic nation, and wants to take control over it, and Ukraine always viewed itself as a nation separate from Russia, and always fought Russia to defend itself.

Why aren't you saying that Ukraine and Novorussia are part of the same Slavic nation, and should all be one, instead of fighting for independence? Why is your cognitive dissonance so broken that you can't see Ukraine fighting for independence from Russia as being the exact same thing as Novorossia fighting for independence from Ukraine?

By the way, you guys are cheering on the progress of the rebels, and apparently think that this issue can be fully resolved just by rebels pushing off Ukrainian military, taking over cities, and holding their territory at a new border. As if by succeeding in this, they will win and the fight will be over. Don't fool yourselves. There are a lot of people living in those areas, especially cities, who do not support Russia, and do not want to join it (you are also probably fooling yourselves if you think Russia will allow Novorussia to exist as an independent country). Many Ukrainians who live in the cities, that these rebels are forcefully taking over, have sworn to fight off Russian invaders by any means necessary, including using guerilla warfare. Russia will likely have a similar result from their invasion of Ukraine that USA had after invading Iraq: very prolonged fighting from insurgency, with a lot of lives and wealth wasted from an enemy that you dpcan not even recognize or know is even there. There was one chance for this to resolve peacefully: allow Eastern Ukraine to actually vote on whether they want to be a part of Ukraine, or how autonomous they want to be. Sadly Russia completely ruined that chance by making up lies that the government in Kiev is Fascist, that they wanted to ban Russian language and make Russians second class citizens, and other such bullshit, until some of the more crazy, violent, and gullible people in Eastern Ukraine (like you guys) decided to take up arms and break away by force, by taking over buildings, shooting civilians and government officials, and starting a civil war. You guys obviously don't remember, demonstrably having no long term memory at all, but this civil war started out as just a bunch of armed hooligans going around shooting people and taking over buildings. Nothing more. It wasn't until soviet troops and weapons entered the country that this turned into a full on war with civilian casualties.

I think what makes me most sick of all about you assholes is that these troops, both Russian and Ukrainian, are conscript soldiers, probably only around 20 years old, who are being forced to go and fight whether they want to or not. But you are now at a point where you see Ukrainians as not even human (very obvious by your derogatory comments targeting Ukrainians as a whole, not just the government), and grimace at the senseless deaths as if it's great or to be celebrated.