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681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about Islam ? on: June 03, 2015, 09:20:02 PM
Okey what you really think about this religion

I think the fanatics have taken Islam away from you. They are now firmly in charge of it. You'll have to fight for it if you want it back again.

682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 03, 2015, 06:28:40 PM
None of the atheists has any logic that the things written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are false. All they can do is SAY that these things are false and make fun of them.

Interesting how you've deliberately neglected to point out that the believers in God are also calling BS to this nonsense as well. Actually everybody has! Cheesy

Is dishonestly lying by omission the only card left in your hand to play? Are you now that desperate? Really?


This is where you and the other atheists luck out. True believers in God - the Christians - are often more or less blind-faith believers. That is, they think that they have reason to believe in God, but they can't really put their finger on it.

The reason for this is that they don't know their religion anywhere near the way they are supposed to. Even Saint Paul, in Romans chapter 1 agrees with what I say:
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
In other words, even the Bible acknowledges the things that I say at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Be glad that other Christians don't recognize this, because if they did, you atheists and agnostics would be laughed right out of town because of your stupid, willful ignorance.

The believers are saved based on their faith in God. Faith in God doesn't have anything to do with the scientific knowledge that exists or doesn't exist. It has to do with the way that God uses His Word to hold on to the hearts of the believers.

The scientific evidence that I have shown at my above link is there for you. It is there to show you and the other atheists that your atheism is based in stupidity, so that thereby you might, through its prompting, have occasion to get into the Bible, get the Word into you, so God has something to save you with.

Science saves no-one. Science is way too limited in its scope and breadth and strength to save anyone. Only God can save. The way He does it is through faith in His words, the Word, the Bible. It isn't blind faith. It is "educated" faith. You are badly mistaken in your way. If you don't change, you will ultimately destroy yourself in an everlasting, painful destruction.

Smiley

Oh I see. The Christian God is the "correct" God.
Obviously you have studied, in depth, all the other countless false Gods to arrive at that conclusion. I mean you would of had to right?
I'm glad we sorted that one out. Now all you have to do is convince the couple of billion people in the world that disagree with you. Cheesy

I love it when BADecker starts doubting his own faith. You can always tell because he starts snapping and lashing out, like a cornered fox with nowhere to run. Funny. Cheesy
683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 03, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
None of the atheists has any logic that the things written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are false. All they can do is SAY that these things are false and make fun of them.

Interesting how you've deliberately neglected to point out that the believers in God are also calling BS to this nonsense as well. Actually everybody has! Cheesy

Is dishonestly lying by omission the only card left in your hand to play? Are you now that desperate? Really?

Tsk, tsk. All this dishonesty must be racking you up lots of black marks in Gods little book. Cheesy Oh, dear. Cheesy
684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 03, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
Therefore, in the eyes of the followers of these religions (majority), atheists (minority) appear to be total losers, since if their God exists, the believers will be rewarded, if he doesn't, they lose nothing, which instigates hate and envy from the atheists (since the latter psychologically can't ignore the opinion of the majority, whether they like it or not)...

Fallacy here, false dilemma. There are other outcomes, such as the repercussions of discovering you foolishly believed in a false God all along, instead of the real one as explained a few pages back.

As I said previously, this doesn't make the atheist strategy of non-believing losing less. Is it really so hard to understand?

Only God can answer that one.
We can only wildly speculate the better strategy.

Even if there is a perverted God that rewards only those who do not believe in him and punishes the rest, atheists would still ultimately be pathetic losers, since all their beliefs and dogmas would turn out to be false in the end...

Wtf, now I understand why they are so hateful, spiteful, and overall vicious deep inside

Sounds like lots of hate and anger you have bubbling away under the surface. Perhaps have a chat with God to cool off.
Oh.... Make sure you chat with the "correct" one, avoid the false man-made ones at all cost.

685  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 03, 2015, 11:01:57 AM
Therefore, in the eyes of the followers of these religions (majority), atheists (minority) appear to be total losers, since if their God exists, the believers will be rewarded, if he doesn't, they lose nothing, which instigates hate and envy from the atheists (since the latter psychologically can't ignore the opinion of the majority, whether they like it or not)...

Fallacy here, false dilemma. There are other outcomes, such as the repercussions of discovering you foolishly believed in a false God all along, instead of the real one as explained a few pages back.

As I said previously, this doesn't make the atheist strategy of non-believing losing less. Is it really so hard to understand?

Only God can answer that one.
We can only wildly speculate the better strategy.
686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 03, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
Therefore, in the eyes of the followers of these religions (majority), atheists (minority) appear to be total losers, since if their God exists, the believers will be rewarded, if he doesn't, they lose nothing, which instigates hate and envy from the atheists (since the latter psychologically can't ignore the opinion of the majority, whether they like it or not)...

Fallacy here, false dilemma. There are other outcomes, such as the repercussions of discovering you foolishly believed in a false God all along, instead of the real one as explained a few pages back.
687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 02, 2015, 09:56:20 PM
Quite simple. If you believe and God exists, you'll be rewarded. If God doesn't exist, you lose nothing. Therefore believing is more optimal strategy in life (and beyond), which atheists simply can't agree with and humbly resign themselves to...

Not too sure I agree with this optimal strategy thing.
Advantages of Atheism.

1) Don't have to live in fear of displeasing their god everyday, because they don't have one.
2) Avoiding the very high probability risk of accidently worshipping a false god.
3) No danger of accidently worshipping the devil disguised as god.
4) Got their Sundays free to do as they like.
5) More money in their pocket as the church hasn't squeezed it out of them.
6) Is amusing because religious people get annoyed others don't want to subscribe to "their special god club".

I expect there are many more if anybody wants to add.
688  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 02, 2015, 09:41:17 PM
There is difficulty in determining if I am a bad guy or if I am a good guy. Here is where the difficulty lies.



If I am a Good Guy

People need to know what is going on. They need to be warned. They need to be saved from their mistakes.

The scientifically observable workings of the universe are of secondary importance. People need to see that the Great God Who controls the whole universe, is the Guy who makes the rules and controls them as easily as you and I speak or write.

In the Revelation of the Bible, there is a short description about the destruction of the universe. Included in that description is: "The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place."

Much of the writing at the time that the Revelation was written, was written on scrolls, rather than books like we have today. The picture of that little line in the Revelation is like God getting tired of reading from the book of the scroll of this universe, and then rolling it up to place it on the shelf, something like a Middle East sage might do with a scroll today.

The rolling up of the story scroll of this universe is going to be a bit different than simply setting the scroll back on the bookshelf. God doesn't like this story, because the devil and the people have corrupted it. God befriended them, and they corrupted the scroll of this universe. So, God is going to throw the scroll of this universe into the fire. From Revelation:
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Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
The "first heaven and first earth had passed" by being thrown into the lake of fire. The "sea" spoken of is the sea of people who did not have faith in the One True God.

People need to be warned, so that they can seek God and be saved. God is not far from each of us. If we seek Him, He will be found by us, and we will be saved.



If I am a Bad Guy

There are people in this forum who don't believe in God. If I had not written my posts in such an adamant, direct form, the unbelievers would simply have gone on their way... not believing. But because of the way I have written, and because of the evidence I have shown, many of these people have become strongly opposed to the idea of God, much more so than they would have if nobody had written as straight-forward as have I. The result of my writing is that many of these have set themselves firmly in their anti-God stance. Some have even blasphemed God... more than they ever would have if I had not written.

The result is that these godless people will be punished more severely after the time of judgment than if they had never heard about God. Jesus said:
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That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

This means that I am actually causing some to be punished following the judgment, more than they would have if I had not spoken.



Conclusion

But what does it really matter? Their punishment is the thing that they have asked for by not repenting. And my words were a warning, causing some to have a change of heart, avoid the punishment altogether, and join with the saved in the new heavens and the new earth. Thus, the thing that I have done and am doing, is good, even though it moves some into contracting onto themselves more punishment.



Smiley


I don't think you're a bad person per se, just a confused victim being taken advantage of from the lies and propaganda of the church.
Don't feel too bad, you're not the first to fall foul and most certainly won't be the last.

689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A UK resident? If so, prepare your anus. on: May 30, 2015, 07:14:42 AM
I'm afraid the OP's quite naive. 3 years ago, I was in Italy, and some websites I tried to access were blocked. Today, I'm in France, in a public place with free wi-fi, and I've been unable to launch Tor. I've tried with different settings, but it fails each time.

It's the sad truth, we're getting f*cked everywhere.

It's worse in Iran, Israel, or Egypt, but that doesn't help.

I'm not really sure why you think I'm naive?

1) I never said other countries weren't having problems.
2) You said you was blocked, but this is rather vague. At what level was you blocked? Local machine, local network, ISP, government level?
I mean it quite understandable if a internet cafe chooses to block it's customers from watching porn for example.
690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison on: May 29, 2015, 09:36:09 PM
This sentence is way over the top. Life sentence without parole?

There's no hope.
691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 29, 2015, 12:49:53 PM
Usually religion people do good deeds to get heaven
This proves that the usual religious person is actually a bad one. They're helping others for the wrong reasons, for their own salvation. This is selfish.
The majority of atheists who do help don't do it because of such reasons.

You know I've never thought of that before. They want to get into heaven, so they help others but the main reason for helping is to selfishly help themselves, which is bad, so they don't goto heaven after all.

I'm going to remember that one.
692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 29, 2015, 07:45:30 AM
Religious activities depend HUGELY on the INTERPRETATION of the reader. So, Islam or Christianity or Buddhism teach whatever you interpret out of the words.
Well that's the very core of the problem. People interpret it into whatever suits them at any given time and claim they are just following their book.
In other words, people can do what the hell they like and push the responsibility off themselves.

Dangerous.


693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A UK resident? If so, prepare your anus. on: May 28, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Best get a plentiful supply of Vaseline in stock as the government is aiming up for full penetration of any communication privacy you might have left.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32896921
I don't buy it.  I don't see the UK being nearly as bad as America in breaking the privacy of it's populations.
As with a lot of things, the UK is somewhere between America and Europe, not ideal but not quite NSA levels yet.

I trust the Tories not to go overboard, Labour would have been worse, much worse.

Well according to Snowden, GCHQ is much worse.
http://rt.com/uk/174172-british-intelligence-lacks-oversight/
694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 06:44:05 PM

only someone who thinks they are very special would believe that the universe did not exist before them and will no longer exist after them...


Only someone who is prone to believing in fairy tales would believe for no reason that the universe existed before they did.

So, if you have reason to believe, what is it? And don't say, "'Cause Mommy told me so."

Smiley

Do you believe in the fairy tail story Jesus once existed then? Long before you was born, so how do you know he existed? You trumpet it to everyone as fact.
695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 05:16:20 PM
The universe didn't exist for anyone before they were born. Therefore the universe doesn't exist except for the lifetime of people. The suggestion that the universe exists more than your lifetime is all a made up story that you might have heard about before you were born, but that you have apparently forgotten about since.

 Cheesy

Well I glad we cleanly sorted that one out.

WTF am I reading? It doesn't even make any sense. Just some random words bashed together.


Shockingly, I understood this, but it's still inaccurate.  Of course he doesn't realize it, but this is close to an Occam's Razor-type inference based upon all available, pragmatic evidence acquired throughout our life.  It's a perfectly valid conclusion that we can't possibly know whether the Universe does or does not exist in the absence of our experience of it, or some aspect of it.

His mistake is making a definitive conclusion.  He is claiming he knows the Universe doesn't exist in the absence of our experience of it, rather than claiming we can't know, which would be empirically correct.  There is no theoretical way to empirically validate or invalidate the existence of the Universe in the absence of our experience of it.

Way over my head.
One question. If the universe didn't exist before I was born, how did my parents exist to create me?
696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
The universe didn't exist for anyone before they were born. Therefore the universe doesn't exist except for the lifetime of people. The suggestion that the universe exists more than your lifetime is all a made up story that you might have heard about before you were born, but that you have apparently forgotten about since.

 Cheesy

Well I glad we cleanly sorted that one out.

WTF am I reading? It doesn't even make any sense. Just some random words bashed together.
697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
So this guy is claiming he remembers things from before he had a working brain, and you guys are STILL feeding the troll?



Of course, neither you or anybody else can prove that there isn't consciousness without the brain. So where is your evidence that there isn't thinking without the brain?

I think you'll find the burden of proof falls on you with this one.
698  Other / Off-topic / Re: making a PDF on: May 28, 2015, 02:43:10 PM
What format are your statements in already?
Also I guessing as you want PDF format your planning to send them to someone, I wouldn't recommended sending sensitive data like that in plaintext via email.
699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 06:54:22 AM
People who don't believe in Jesus salvation are going to Hell.

See here's a prime example of someone telling you as fact what's going to happen when you die.
As we've already concluded, nobody knows what will happen when die, so this person is obviously lying.


Do you really know that I don't know? If so, how do you know that I don't know?

 Cheesy

Because you can't remember what you was doing before you was born. And you haven't died yet to find out.

So any views what will happen when you die are wild wishful thinking speculation at best.


Just because I didn't tell YOU what I was doing before I was born, doesn't mean I don't know. So, any of the views that you have about what will happen to you when you die are probably just wishful thinking.

Smiley

Oh that's interesting. Perhaps you'd care to share your experiences with us what you was doing before you was born....




Why should I waste the time. You wouldn't believe it anyway.

Smiley

How many of you Fluffer Overblows are there, anyway? When one of you gets tired, another one takes over.

Speculating what's going to happen when we die is a waste of time anyway as nobody knows.
Anyone claiming xyz is going to happen when we die is simply lying, end of story.

What are "Fluffer Overblow" type people? Logical intelligent people?
700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 06:35:37 AM
People who don't believe in Jesus salvation are going to Hell.

See here's a prime example of someone telling you as fact what's going to happen when you die.
As we've already concluded, nobody knows what will happen when die, so this person is obviously lying.


Do you really know that I don't know? If so, how do you know that I don't know?

 Cheesy

Because you can't remember what you was doing before you was born. And you haven't died yet to find out.

So any views what will happen when you die are wild wishful thinking speculation at best.


Just because I didn't tell YOU what I was doing before I was born, doesn't mean I don't know. So, any of the views that you have about what will happen to you when you die are probably just wishful thinking.

Smiley

Oh that's interesting. Perhaps you'd care to share your experiences with us what you was doing before you was born....


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