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1561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please tell me this isn't how transactions always work.... on: August 30, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
Your problem is easily avoided by using coin control. That way, you can choose which coins to spend, how to combine them, and you will not be caught by surprise that you can't spend the change, because you will know exactly how much change there will be in each transaction, and where will it go.

Coin control is a feature, which currently only the original Bitcoin Core wallet has (as far as I know).

Armoury has coin control feature.
1562  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-08-29] MIT students engineering bitcoin scheme on: August 30, 2014, 04:19:47 PM
Like this clown knows any better than a single student at MIT? I don't think he actually understands bitcoin, the innovation, or any advantages, he just sees "magic internet money". Maybe he will look back in a decade, and understand how clueless he was.


Link to a rebuttal: http://cointelegraph.com/es/news/112385/rebutting-the-ny-posts-lazy-criticisms-of-bitcoin


I love this statement. So true:
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It’s free money. Would there be similar hand-wringing about MIT’s beliefs if I walked around campus handing out Benjamins?
1563  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please tell me this isn't how transactions always work.... on: August 30, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Now I'm confused.

You are confused because you are talking about two completely different things as if they are both the same thing.

Thing number 1: Accepting an unconfirmed transaction that is funded by confirmed outputs.

If someone sends you a transaction, and the transactions that the inputs come from are confirmed, then malleability doesn't affect you.  As long as the transaction is well propagated and includes an appropriate fee, it's a pretty small risk to accept it.  For small value payments, most merchants would consider this an acceptable risk (probably a lower merchant risk than shoplifting, chargebacks, and counterfeit bills).

Thing number 2: Spending the output from an unconfirmed transaction.

If you receive an unconfirmed transaction, and then try to spend those bitcoins that you just received before they have confirmed, you then have a problem with malleability.  The transaction ID of the unconfirmed transaction could change before it confirms, which would then make your transaction invalid.  While it is often reasonably safe to accept unconfirmed transactions, it is never very safe to spend those bitcoins until the transaction has confirmed.

Thank you for your response. I am talking about #2.
1564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please tell me this isn't how transactions always work.... on: August 30, 2014, 12:54:53 PM
Anyway you don't even need to wait for a confirm if your buying food or drinks or whatever under $500  if clerk confirmed miner fee paid and transaction appears on his side then it is most likely paid and your good to go.
As discussed earlier, until the malleability issue is resolved accepting unconfirmed transactions is too risky at present.

Unconfirmed transactions are not risky due to the malleability issue unless you are relying solely on the tx id. You can safely use unconfirmed transactions as long as you don't use only the tx id to track them pre-confirm.

Oh right, so they are safe. So if the various wallets allowed unconfirmed inputs to be sent without using tx ids, problem solved.

Now I'm confused.

1565  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please tell me this isn't how transactions always work.... on: August 30, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
Anyway you don't even need to wait for a confirm if your buying food or drinks or whatever under $500  if clerk confirmed miner fee paid and transaction appears on his side then it is most likely paid and your good to go.
As discussed earlier, until the malleability issue is resolved accepting unconfirmed transactions is too risky at present.
1566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please tell me this isn't how transactions always work.... on: August 30, 2014, 09:45:02 AM
I sent them from and it confirmed in 6 minutes WTF, I have never seen anything so efficient..
I have. My fiat confirms immediately.
1567  Economy / Lending / Re: Am about to go homeless, could use some help on: August 30, 2014, 05:31:28 AM
 All of you trolling and the ones who are convinced by shills like Vod, Buffer and Jonald are actually keeping squall from his money...

What?  Me?  Stopping you from paying back Squall?  That means you believe that the only
way Squall is going to get paid back is if you get another loan from someone else to
try one of your far fetched business ideas.  


Getting a job would take longer to pay off the debt then the path I'm on now, that's the truth.  

Funny, everyone else on here thinks you getting a job would the fastest, surest way to pay the debt.


...If you give me a chance, you will see all that I have to contribute.

Contribute or be a bum.  It's your choice.  But it has nothing to do with the
bitcoin forum "giving you a chance"... (unless you mean another loan, which won't happen.)

You're not stopping me but you're slowing things down.  Either I can A) get a loan, set up my property and grow food, conduct business, produce music, write a book and pay back squall in a near time frame, or B) can work a minimum wage slave job at the cost of my soul for two-three years while retarding progression musically and spiritually, offsetting the release of the Tale of Dank and the music festival, or C) can work for myself as I do now with no assistance from anybody for more time than if I was given a hand to get on my feet but much less time than if I sold my will to a business, while retaining the peace and values I hold.

One day you will see all I have contributed and how you sent nothing more than ridicule and derision.

I pick 'B' for you, after that task is complete, you can pick your own.

Win - Win.

I know you pick B, that's why you are shilling me.  Luckily, I have freewill and I chose to work for myself and not the system.  Is there a problem with that?


I picked 'B' for you because that is the correct thing for you, someone with a huge debt on your shoulders, to do.

Please tell us more about how working for yourself "get's you out of the system"?
Self-employed have to pay their taxes as well you know.
1568  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 30, 2014, 05:13:07 AM
Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

I have no problem with tits personally.

But in all seriousness, tent stoves exist and will suffice in keeping the area warm.

Cold is also in your head.  You're only cold if you think you're cold.  A good friend told me that back in the day.  Temperature is all relative to perception.

And I love the snow, should be awesome.

Well you won't be needing heating then will you? Remember dank, think warm!!
I highly recommend you ignore this friend of yours. He/she is spoon feeding you complete rot.





We can be friends.  Smiley

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?

Well?
1569  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 30, 2014, 04:21:51 AM
Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.
1570  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 29, 2014, 11:17:30 PM
Over 99% of the idea that we are overpopulated is BS propaganda, designed to herd the people into the cities where they can be controlled by big government.

People herd to cities because that's where the jobs are.

You wanna try getting on the London tube during rush hour, you'll understand what overcrowding is.

Fine and dandy. The point is, there is no overpopulation.  Smiley

LOL, what are you talking about? You cannot just stack people 4 high, squeeze them in and then that's it.

You need infrastructure in place to support them. Our roads here in UK are at breaking point, NHS at breaking point, schools over subscribed. Plus all these extra people use more electricity, water, gas, sewers, the list is endless.

We can't keep concreting over farmland. This provides our food.
1571  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 29, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Over 99% of the idea that we are overpopulated is BS propaganda, designed to herd the people into the cities where they can be controlled by big government.

People herd to cities because that's where the jobs are.

You wanna try getting on the London tube during rush hour, you'll understand what overcrowding is.
1572  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 29, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
We can be friends.  Smiley

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?
1573  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 29, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
Look, if scientists and researchers had more than a rudimentary understanding of how things work, they would have been able to double and triple our lifespan long ago.

Let's hope not. We are overpopulated as it is.
1574  Economy / Lending / Re: Am about to go homeless, could use some help on: August 29, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
No one man is too good for anything, it takes true courage and real truth to swallow your own self righteous pride, and actually work hard for things while following your dreams. That my friend is what being a true contributor to human society is all about.

Well said. I like that.  Smiley
1575  Economy / Lending / Re: Am about to go homeless, could use some help on: August 29, 2014, 07:58:30 PM
  All of you trolling and the ones who are convinced by shills like Vod, Buffer and Jonald are actually keeping squall from his money...

What?  Me?  Stopping you from paying back Squall?  That means you believe that the only
way Squall is going to get paid back is if you get another loan from someone else to
try one of your far fetched business ideas. 


Getting a job would take longer to pay off the debt then the path I'm on now, that's the truth. 

Funny, everyone else on here thinks you getting a job would the fastest, surest way to pay the debt.


...If you give me a chance, you will see all that I have to contribute.

Contribute or be a bum.  It's your choice.  But it has nothing to do with the
bitcoin forum "giving you a chance"... (unless you mean another loan, which won't happen.)

You're not stopping me but you're slowing things down.  Either I can A) get a loan, set up my property and grow food, conduct business, produce music, write a book and pay back squall in a near time frame, or B) can work a minimum wage slave job at the cost of my soul for two-three years while retarding progression musically and spiritually, offsetting the release of the Tale of Dank and the music festival, or C) can work for myself as I do now with no assistance from anybody for more time than if I was given a hand to get on my feet but much less time than if I sold my will to a business, while retaining the peace and values I hold.

One day you will see all I have contributed and how you sent nothing more than ridicule and derision.

I pick 'B' for you, after that task is complete, you can pick your own.

Win - Win.
1576  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 29, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
I think you missed everything I said in my last post, let me quote it for you again.

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As a society, we are on the road towards extinction.  We are living completely unsustainably.

As a person, I'm using minimal resources in order to bring about a change in society.  Is the cotton tent I plan on living in made from fibers from earth?  Yes.  Does the 77 pound tent use nearly as much resources as a 100 ton house?  No.

The major issue is that we are not living our own lives, we are living a facade for the will of something other than us.  If we all did what made us happy, by helping others, we wouldn't have the problems we have in the world today.  We wouldn't have these trillion dollar big pharma, big oil and big banking industries.  We wouldn't have war.  We would have prosperity and progression.  Such a gross amount of energy is going towards consumptuous life styles and building an exponentially growing society that is completely out of line with nature.  The average person leaves a negative footprint on the world, I'm doing my best to live a simplistic life while contributing to others by creating food, music and ideas for a better world.

Do I use things that were made by society?  Yes.  I wear shoes, I wear pants, shirts, underwear all manufactured by large corporations.  I ride a motorcycle manufactured in Japan because that's what society offered.  The society I was born into was molded this way, so I am working with what I have.

I have a Fender Strat and Marshall amplifier, both of which I'm sure are registered as incorporation, but I am utilizing these tools to distribute a positive message of love through music.

I'm going to organize a music festival of a large scale, that will use a 140' stage, over 100 array speakers, 100 lights, a large LED video wall and a shit ton of porta pottys, all manufactured by companies.

You fall short to see the intentions of my life.  I'm living to make a positive change.  I have handed my life into the will of god, which is why I can do the things I do without fear.  I have nothing but faith, and as every day passes, that power only grows.

Don't think I think you're all horrible people for consuming earth and building society as you did, I don't.  We all do the best we can with the information given.  You did your best, just as I did my best when conducting my business with squall.  Now that doesn't mean we should close ourselves off from growing and learning.  Change is hard to do, that's human nature, but when presented with a higher understanding of life and how it could be, we oughta strive to manifest it into reality, not cling to the way it is.  If we always held onto the past, we would never move forward through time.

I believe everyone is a good person deep down.  What matters is if you believe you're a good person, not what you think but what you believe.

We had to make society the way it is for it to be as it is now.  We needed people like Hitler, Bush and Obama.  We needed them to fuck things up a bit for us to become aware of the nature of the world and learn from it.  We needed WWII to give birth to the counter culture in the 60's.  We need error in human life to learn as a species and grow.  It is the human experience.  It is all perfect is you truly see it so.  But at some point, we need to simply man up and take the information we have learned and do something with it.  We needed to create and destroy earth in order to develop intellectually to where we are now.  But now that we have found a higher level of understanding, with the power of the internet, psychedelics and the will of youth, we need to do something with it.

Rather than living the same pattern of a life indefinitely until you die, let's create a new way of life.  Let's create a world where people don't die.  I know it's possible, I know how to do it, I know I will not die, so let's stop the stupid games of judgment and doubt.  Take a step back and find some humility.  We all make mistakes, we all are wrong.  I have been wrong so many times in my life, but the only thing that matters is that I have acknowledged when I was wrong and only once you see and accept your misconceptions can you find the truth.  If you cling to the delusion you were brought up with forever, you will never find the true state of reality.

Why can't we love each other?  Why can't we be friends?  Why can't you ask questions rather than call names?  Why can't we be the product of millions of years of evolution that we are?

Maybe we are the ones trying to help you, and you just can't see it.

Anyway, back to the iPhone...
1577  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 29, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
Isn't it interesting Dank hates 'evil corporations', but happily supports one of them by having an iPhone and at least one more charging the thing up.   Roll Eyes

I don't have an iphone..

Oh look another lie:

Freestyled these with my iphone cause errybody hates dank and so what difference does it make if someone judges me for making some sporadic music?

Right, because I did have an iphone, and now I don't.  It fell out of my jacket pocket when I was recording myself flying down the highway.

Try again.

Oh right, so you didn't throw the dirty nasty thing away because you can't live with yourself having it any longer.
You lost it involuntary, which means you would of had it now, supporting Apple!

By the way, that bike, which make is it? A big evil company made it by any chance?

How on earth can you record any videos inside your jacket pocket?
1578  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 29, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Clearly I have to use some resources from society to become a rockstar and host a million person music festival.  Doesn't mean I have to vouch off my soul to the will of the machine.

So let me get this straight, when everyone else in the world uses the resources of 'evil corporations' for their benefit, you label them wrong for supporting.
Yet when you use the same resources, it doesn't count? Right?
1579  Economy / Lending / Re: Am about to go homeless, could use some help on: August 29, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
Not meant in an offensive way, but your quite new here. I'm guessing (though I might be wrong) that your not up to speed with Dank's colourful history.
I don't understand how you thinking alerting newbies on this forum about Dank being a proven scammer irresponsible?
It's an ongoing cycle. Dank requests another loan, previous debt concerns arise, Dank lies, then the shitstorm happens.

Till the next time.

Ok shill.  Please site one lie.  Good luck.

Dank stop mate. Your just digging yourself deeper in that hole. Cheesy

I don't have an iphone..

*facepalm* Cheesy
1580  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan for community in mountains on: August 29, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
Isn't it interesting Dank hates 'evil corporations', but happily supports one of them by having an iPhone and at least one more charging the thing up.   Roll Eyes

I don't have an iphone..

Oh look another lie:

Freestyled these with my iphone cause errybody hates dank and so what difference does it make if someone judges me for making some sporadic music?
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