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741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on live game or while game hasn't started yet? on: July 03, 2023, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: cabron

Cast your bet in a match that have yet not started or bet when the game is already live?
It must have been asked before but in case new sports bettors have not yet read such thread, reply back your opinion about it.

Found myself losing when the money line changes from 1.75 to 4.35 as the game began. But sometimes when I also wait for the game to start, it changes to worse such from 1.75 to 1.10

I think, bet when the match is not yet start is the best tactic which it has been helping people not to loose so much money in their gambling because it help people to carry out their personal research to know the past performance of the both teams before betting. If you wait for the match to start before you can bet, it will lead you to miss your opportunity in that particular match, because you will bet base on the moment performance which is not reliable like betting before the match. I believe, you will continue to maintain good result in your betting, if you can apply that strategy betting before the match and it will help you not to worry too much when you know the two teams performance history.
It seems to me that a lot depends on what kind of match is being played. There are games where the favourites don't care about points or winning, but for the underdogs it's a matter of life. So if you bet during the game, after seeing how the teams play, it can make a profit.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How big is your optimism for crypto investment? on: July 03, 2023, 03:06:23 PM
Well, as of now cryptocurrencies are always on the news and it's difficult to miss it. I think that adds fuel to the optimistic view of cryptocurrency investing. It's not the same as before where we need a broker, a middleman, or whatever they call them, we can now do it ourselves anytime and anywhere we like due to the large number of exchanges either CEX or locally where we could buy it in an instant.
I think the big questions will be not just the optimistic view but how far are we willing to keep the cryptocurrency of our choice. In the altcoin industry, there are so many options out there and it's difficult to pick one with a long-term purpose. Unless it's Ethereum and BNB.
With the mountain of cryptocurrencies being created, I think we also need to be wise with our choice and not just because we are too optimistic about the future it holds.
The main point you are making is that cryptocurrencies give us freedom of action. And only our personal choice can make us more financially independent or fail. It's all about making the right choice, whether it's altcoins or bitcoins. We should not succumb to the news, but choose a time when there is no news about cryptocurrencies, so the possibility of profit is much higher.
743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is right time for investment ? on: July 03, 2023, 09:33:12 AM
If it's a small amount, it's okay to invest in the early sales stage. But if it's money that you can't afford then don't take the risk. This is a tough choice for those of us who are struggling to make money but I prefer something certain with low risk. Unless I have earned a reward or bonus from where I work then I will take a little risk to invest in a new project.
It's probably not about the risk, but about the amount of time you are willing to wait for a profit. If you are looking for quick money, you will most likely lose your deposit on coins like PEPE. But if you are ready to wait a few years, there is nothing wrong with risking a lot of money. The main thing is to choose a quality project like DOT, ATOM or something newer.
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC or altcoin on: July 02, 2023, 11:49:09 AM
don't compare btc or altcoin. btc of course the number one coin. anything else is just supporting crypto market to be useful, adoptable, cheaper, faster and easy to use for average guy. in fact the store of value is on Bitcoin. we can call it like gold in digital world. sometimes people comparing it to alt is just does not make any sense at all. if bitcoin die, all altcoin are need to prepared for their graveyard too 
I think it's obvious that Bitcoin is the king of crypto and there's no doubt about it,
So far it's been impossible for altcoins to beat Bitcoin,
indeed if Bitcoin dies then everything will also experience the same thing.
I don't think bitcoin will ever die. It is impossible because the network is decentralised. It is only possible if the death of the internet worldwide happens, which is also unlikely. Bitcoin can be compared with altcoins in terms of transaction speed and fees, smart contracts and other things that bitcoin does not have but altcoins do. But of course bitcoin is the king of the market.
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XLM - yes or no? on: July 01, 2023, 08:41:17 PM
the ATH price of XLM is $0.876 and the current price of XLM is $0.107, so I think it's very good for you to buy XLM right now and hold until the altseason comes, because I'm sure when the altseason occurs, then the price of XLM will definitely increase at least reached its ATH price and of course you can get profit more than 8x from the current price, so don't miss your chance to invest in XLM right now and get a lot of profit when the altseason comes.
It will be always risky to invest on Alt-coin for long-term. But it can be also different in some times XLM is one of the oldest project on crypto world and they are running good till yet . However, it currently stands well below its all-time high price Even then I think it is capable of recovering. If it recovers then it will be profitable to invest now. So if you wanna investment on it then I think it will be best to invest on it with a proper dca management and with the strategy of long run.
Stellar is indeed one of the oldest altcoins that has yet to disappear. But I think it will soon. They can't compete with newer projects that regularly have hype. XLM exists because of their association with Ripple. I don't have any other explanation for them not getting scrapped. Their price movements often repeat those of Ripple. Once Ripple weakens, stellar will disappear.

One basic factor is to compete with how the technology update, and I see your point there's nothing that Stellar is showing as of now, they are more on following the hypes but not quite huge if compared to other project old and new, they have their ways to attract investors but in terms of Stellar, mostly following Ripple and nothing else.

Maybe the chance of disappearing is not by far if there's no other update with this project.
Stellar has been in the top 30 for a long time. Other projects like EOS, ZIL, NEM and XTZ have long since dropped out of the top 30. XLM has not been able to offer anything to users. Yes, they made DEX, NFT and something else, but it is not in demand. Now people use APTOS or Arbitrum instead. i'm sure Stellar will meet the fate of all old altcoins that ended up on the trash.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XLM - yes or no? on: July 01, 2023, 03:51:45 PM
the ATH price of XLM is $0.876 and the current price of XLM is $0.107, so I think it's very good for you to buy XLM right now and hold until the altseason comes, because I'm sure when the altseason occurs, then the price of XLM will definitely increase at least reached its ATH price and of course you can get profit more than 8x from the current price, so don't miss your chance to invest in XLM right now and get a lot of profit when the altseason comes.
It will be always risky to invest on Alt-coin for long-term. But it can be also different in some times XLM is one of the oldest project on crypto world and they are running good till yet . However, it currently stands well below its all-time high price Even then I think it is capable of recovering. If it recovers then it will be profitable to invest now. So if you wanna investment on it then I think it will be best to invest on it with a proper dca management and with the strategy of long run.
Stellar is indeed one of the oldest altcoins that has yet to disappear. But I think it will soon. They can't compete with newer projects that regularly have hype. XLM exists because of their association with Ripple. I don't have any other explanation for them not getting scrapped. Their price movements often repeat those of Ripple. Once Ripple weakens, stellar will disappear.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is right time for investment ? on: July 01, 2023, 12:31:46 PM

If you want to buy bitcoin at $30k, go ahead, because the current price is worth buying,
even Microstrategy has also bought Bitcoin at the current price so if we buy it, we will be like microstrategy.
so don't worry we are not alone.
Microstrategy, Michael Saylor in particular, regularly buy bitcoin at any price. They have also been buying at 50k. Their purchase does not indicate that the price is about to rise. Their purchase indicates only that they believe in the first cryptocurrency, nothing more. Their average purchase price is around 29k. Agree that they are not making much profit right now.
748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 01, 2023, 11:13:26 AM
I am very sorry that Spalletti has left Napoli, he was really very good at managing the players
I don't know the new coach who coaches Napoli, he will probably be strong, let's hope he can do well
and i hope the better for my Juventus
Indeed, it is a pity that Spalletti cannot stay at Napoli much longer, because it seems that Napoli are also not ready for Spalletti's departure because of course this will change Napoli's performance next season which must also play in the Champions League. But indeed, nothing can last forever because they will change from time to time, so something like this is of course a natural thing. So yes, with those who cannot stay forever, then of course they must always be ready to be let go and must be ready to find a replacement and hopefully, Napoli's performance can still be consistent to compete in the top four next season.
Spalletti is a professional coach who has contributed and experienced a lot for Napoli so Spalletti's departure will be very disappointing to all Napoli players who have been trained to become reliable players.
With the departure of Spalletti there will be pressure for all Napoli players to remain the best club in Serie A and must be able to get closer to the new one sooner.
Even though next season Napoli's performance will decrease slightly, this won't take long and they will definitely still be able to dominate every game.
It is very often the case that with a change of coach, the team loses productivity. There are now many teams in Italy who are ready to fight for the top place next season. It seems to me that if Napoli are weakened by the change of Spaletti, then Lazio, Inter, Milan or Juventus will enter the race. I'm sure it will be very difficult for Napoli to confirm the championship.

Napoli has shown dominance this season. I find it highly unlikely that they will continue the same dominance next season. Teams like Inter Milan, Atalanta, and Juventus did not play well in the last season. Every team will strengthen themselves in the coming season. And so if Napoli can't strengthen themselves, it will be more difficult for them to stay in the competition. I think we will see the dominance of Juventus and Inter Milan in Serie A next season.
Juventus and Inter have done well this season, but there is also Lazio and Milan. Napoli cannot be ruled out of contention for top place either. It's just that Napoli will definitely have difficulties because of the change of coach, but if they can manage it at the beginning of next season, they will have a chance to become champions again. Somehow I don't believe that, though.
749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Everything is on FIRE today! on: June 30, 2023, 07:17:35 PM
I like your style. yeah, the market is flying and green again in the near future. The bulls will have to reverse that AVWAP resistance and $31k loop if they want to hold onto it. for this time, hope BTC doesn't pull another double top, because a lot of people have been waiting for that $30K zone. If Bitcoin did a double top, it would be a big problem and a clear correction would take place, no doubt about it. As @adaseb said It's worth considering too.
$31k is quite a strong resistance and currently, BTC is still on standby at $30k. If Bitcoin is able to pass $31k this will be a good trend going forward.
But if Bitcoin rebuilds the Double Top it will indeed be dangerous, there will be a deep enough correction before Bitcoin is finally able to break the highest price again this month.

The correction will clearly occur because the market already looks saturated, these few days Bitcoin is still at $30k, if the correction will be in the $27k price area. But if it is held back with some positive news maybe the correction will not be too deep.
What is certain is that you must be prepared with all conditions.
Well, even though it hasn't stepped down from $30k yet, the market is red once again which means that the price is dropping slowly and steadily. Bitcoin couldn't go across the resistance level at $31k once again and now the resistance becomes even stronger, if the price breaks below $29k, we will see it going toward the $25k region once again I'm afraid, and investors will obviously start buying right after it reaches in the middle of $29k.

If the correction doesn't take place and the price manages to go up again from here and crosses $31k, we might see it touching $35k for the first time in two years which will be a great way to raise up the confidence in retail investors and make them have some faith and more patience to hold.
I don't understand what red market you are talking about. Almost all coins are going up today. Many are up more than 30%. Yes, bitcoin has not passed 31k yet, but 30k was broken this week. The market is all green today and I hope that this month will close high for bitcoin and altcoins to continue rising next month.
750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we now on Crypto bull run? on: June 30, 2023, 06:17:41 PM
I have doubts that the price will surpass $35k in the next month, and it appears to be more of a bull trap rather than a genuine bull run. In my opinion, it seems that whales are seeking exit liquidity and deliberately inflating the price to lure in more retail investors.
For now I still don't think of it that way, because today it is very clear that Bitcoin which immediately increased to $ 31K could immediately fall back to $ 30K and even briefly below $ 30K. This means that there are many buyers who are still happy to buy Bitcoin, don't let Bitcoin go down too deep at the end of this month, and hopefully next month the price of Bitcoin can be much better than this month.

But there is a chance that the price could reach 50k this year. Many large funds have now applied to create bitcoin etfs. Because of this news bitcoin was able to break the resistance at 30k. If these applications are approved, we could well see a bull run. There is a lot of uncertainty in the market right now, but there is more good news so far.
So far there has been more good news, but some good news has still not been able to make Bitcoin rise sharply towards $ 35K. So Bitcoin may still need a few other things that are a little different in order to get more and more buyers interested in the next month so that the price increase can continue to be better.
There is euphoria in the market today. Bitcoin is up a bit, but altcoins have bounced back from the bottom very nicely. I don't know what news could have influenced this, but ltc did 30% and bch doubled in just one week. I guess it's hard not to say the bulls have come to the market.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 30, 2023, 04:22:07 PM

It is very sad to see the fate that Sergio Ramos experienced when he left PSG but it was difficult to find another team that would accept him because with his old age several teams in La Liga might think twice about accepting him to be added to the defense. but sadly I haven't heard any rumors from any La Liga team that has interest in signing Sergio Ramos and as far as I know only a team from saudi arabia has rumors about signing him.
well, maybe Sevilla has a slight chance to take in Sergio Ramos again but what is very disappointing it seems that Sevilla has no interest either.

I do not think theres anything wrong with Sergio Ramos being clubless, Sergio Ramos is old, past his best and injury prone; it is only normal if no top clubs wants to sign him anymore even as a free player. If i were Sergio Ramos agent, it is time to find a new club in the American League or even Saudi arabia. or what do you think ?
I don't think it's very easy to find a club in any league, including American or Saudi. If a player is many years old, his career is at the finish line. It's a similar situation now for Neymar, who will probably be without a club as well. It probably makes sense to look for a place not at the top clubs.

Neymar is 31 and I would take any bet that he will not be without a club anytime soon. He will sign one more contract with a bigger club or stay at PSG as he is too valuable in terms of his popularity. The only thing that can happen to him is that he has to accept a reduced salary elsewhere, but I am quite sure that they first who would be knocking his door when he is about to leave PSG are the Saudi clubs.

Ramos is six years older than Neymar and that is a totally different story.
Neymar has been rumored to leave PSG for a long time. Seeing the possibility of leaving PSG, Saudi clubs have already offered Neymar to play in the Saudi league, but Neymar will probably not play in the Saudi league. If Neymar leaves PSG, he may take a pay cut and return to the English Premier League or La Liga. I think at the moment he will try to stay in European clubs even if he takes a bit of a pay cut. Because at the moment his football still has a lot to achieve. And if it is not in Europe, this achievement will never be possible. After playing in Europe for three to four years, he can return to the Saudi League.
In four years' time, Neymar will be as old as Sergio Ramos. Although they're probably players of different levels, perhaps Ramos has a chance of making it to the Saudi League too, as he has a lot of experience. It's interesting to see how the old timers have started to move to this league. But it really is the end of a career, or rather a sale for a huge amount of money.
752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 30, 2023, 03:33:37 PM

It is very sad to see the fate that Sergio Ramos experienced when he left PSG but it was difficult to find another team that would accept him because with his old age several teams in La Liga might think twice about accepting him to be added to the defense. but sadly I haven't heard any rumors from any La Liga team that has interest in signing Sergio Ramos and as far as I know only a team from saudi arabia has rumors about signing him.
well, maybe Sevilla has a slight chance to take in Sergio Ramos again but what is very disappointing it seems that Sevilla has no interest either.

I do not think theres anything wrong with Sergio Ramos being clubless, Sergio Ramos is old, past his best and injury prone; it is only normal if no top clubs wants to sign him anymore even as a free player. If i were Sergio Ramos agent, it is time to find a new club in the American League or even Saudi arabia. or what do you think ?
I don't think it's very easy to find a club in any league, including American or Saudi. If a player is many years old, his career is at the finish line. It's a similar situation now for Neymar, who will probably be without a club as well. It probably makes sense to look for a place not at the top clubs.
753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is buying BTC now, the best option ??? on: June 30, 2023, 09:08:17 AM
Buying bitcoin is always the right decision. Even if you buy bitcoin at a high price, in your opinion. You have to remember that almost every year people say it is too late to buy bitcoin, but after some years the price gets higher, so it is never too late to buy bitcoin. This is also a good time to buy altcoins. I think it is even more profitable now.
754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 29, 2023, 07:23:30 PM
I am very sorry that Spalletti has left Napoli, he was really very good at managing the players

I don't know the new coach who coaches Napoli, he will probably be strong, let's hope he can do well
and i hope the better for my Juventus

Indeed, it is a pity that Spalletti cannot stay at Napoli much longer, because it seems that Napoli are also not ready for Spalletti's departure because of course this will change Napoli's performance next season which must also play in the Champions League. But indeed, nothing can last forever because they will change from time to time, so something like this is of course a natural thing. So yes, with those who cannot stay forever, then of course they must always be ready to be let go and must be ready to find a replacement and hopefully, Napoli's performance can still be consistent to compete in the top four next season.
Spalletti is a professional coach who has contributed and experienced a lot for Napoli so Spalletti's departure will be very disappointing to all Napoli players who have been trained to become reliable players.
With the departure of Spalletti there will be pressure for all Napoli players to remain the best club in Serie A and must be able to get closer to the new one sooner.
Even though next season Napoli's performance will decrease slightly, this won't take long and they will definitely still be able to dominate every game.
It is very often the case that with a change of coach, the team loses productivity. There are now many teams in Italy who are ready to fight for the top place next season. It seems to me that if Napoli are weakened by the change of Spaletti, then Lazio, Inter, Milan or Juventus will enter the race. I'm sure it will be very difficult for Napoli to confirm the championship.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why people are always interested in altcoins on: June 29, 2023, 04:22:07 PM
People are always interested in altcoins is because it is driven by the potential for high profit and the unique features they offer in the cryptocurrency market. Altcoins are not regulated by governments or financial institutions, making them a more decentralized and potentially profitable investment opportunity. Altcoin often have unique features or use cases that differentiate them from well known cryptocurrency like bitcoin or ethereum. This can make them more appealing to investors who are looking for better opportunities in the cryptocurrency market. Altcoins can also be highly volatile and have significant risks. It is crucial for investors to do their own research and understand the potential risks before investing in any altcoin.
Sec has recently had complaints about some altcoins, which has had a negative impact on the value of these coins. Therefore, the issue of control is a matter of time. It is enough to get a delist from most exchanges and the future of the project will be in doubt. You may be right about decentralisation, but the main factor here is investors who own a lot of coins who can also manipulate the price.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Next bull market comes in June on: June 29, 2023, 11:09:00 AM
That is what many holders have been waiting for who have been patiently preparing everything they believe to get the desired result, the bull market is sure to come. with so much good news about crypto it is a sign that there will be growth in the market and there are many other things that can affect market movements
The bull run will always be there because they are a part of how the crypto market works. We won't only experience a bear at all times however there is no way to predict accurately if when will the bull run can come. The price of the crypto can react positively on a positive news but sometimes the market can still move on its own, and the direction will reverse.

Sometimes people can refer to this as a bull trap. Not that I am hurting your feelings but TBH, I hardly see a positive news nowadays, just the negative ones. This is the reason why the price were dumping last time but luckily we are now seeing a recovery earlier this day but there are no reported reasons for this yet.
I don't know what negative news you are talking about. I think there is a lot of good news in the market now, which has allowed the bitcoin price to break the resistance at 30k. The bears left six months ago and now, if not the time of bulls, it is definitely a sideways price movement. Of course, nobody knows when the bulls will come, but I think that now there is a chance for that. Especially when the big funds are interested in bitcoin.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: June 29, 2023, 09:40:37 AM
I have noticed that France can't be champions in Euro tournaments since Euro 2000. The last time they did was then and after that time they made it to the finale even for only once. They actually have a squad that can win a championship next time. In Mbappe's lead they can really do a great work. After missing the chance to win a back-to-back title in the World Cup by a small margin they would surely aim the next Euro championship. They have a comfortable qualifiers group so they should be finishing it as leader.

But the real challenge will be the main tournament. There are a couple of very challenging opponents for France so their job won't be easy at all after a point.
There is many good teams over there like Spain but definitely France is one of the best teams with a lot of good players since they collected them from different nations.
Germany didn't recover yet and Italy are quite unstable right now. Croatia have a bad luck but are a threat for the others
I believe that France will win the upcoming European Championship. They are currently the strongest team on the continent. I probably can't name any other team that can stand up to France. Maybe England, but they did poorly in the last World Cup, so I don't think they can compete with France either.
758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 28, 2023, 07:25:55 PM
Among PSG, Lens and Marseille trio only Lens haven't changed their manager recently. And Lens really don't need a change at all after this superb season. The way they left Marseille behind and had a huge point gap with them at the end was really impressive. It is doubtful if they can do well in the Champions League group stage though. But it is early to say something before seeing their group there.

Lens' priority would be to keep consistent in the Ligue 1 of course. They will really need to work harder because this season might be more challenging than they assume maybe. I don't think Marseille would be this out-of-form next time.

Well, next season Lens will be tested with a fairly busy schedule of matches in various competitions. if they're not ready to deal with it, don't be surprised if Lens suffers a drop in performance. which means, they won't be as good as they were in the 2022/2023 season.
at least, Lens will take part in 3 competitions, be it Ligue 1, Champions League and also the Coupe de France. because of that, Fanck Haise had to prepare his team and at the same time deepen it by bringing in several newcomers. because if not, they may experience fatigue as happened to Marseille last season. the absence of several injured players could be a significant obstacle for the Lens squad in the coming season. So, you can be sure that Fanck Haise will have a tough task next season. that's why Fanck Haise must be better prepared with his squad for next season even though their focus is on the Ligue 1 competition.
Lens used to has recognized as mediocre team in Ligue 1 and on 2015 Lens even has been relegated after finished the league in the bottom position but when Franck Haise arrived to this team he has make significant progress and only in 3 years he can bringing Lens to finish at second position under PSG and i think nobody thought Lens will be able to finish at that position because on Ligue 1 people are more likely to talking about other teams such as Marseille, Monaco or probably Lille as the contender for PSG

For next season we will see whether Lens can maintain their consistency by playing in 3 competitions for one season because i am too curious how far Lens can go and for champion league obviously they are underdog because if i am not mistaken Lens was joining into pot 4 for drawing pot later and for summer transfer Lens seems want to upgrade their squad and recently they want to buy Juventus player Denis Zakaria but before that Lens already get Stijn Spierings as free transfer but i am quite worried because their goal machine Lois Openda was targetting by many clubs and i think Lens have to hold this player because he is important player for them

According to transfermarkt, Lens total market price is 221m while and got the second place on the table in the French league with one point gap they had with PSG, while PSg spend much more than Lens and I think if Lens could invest this huge amount of money for hiring players they could even they the title.

That's probably PSG's biggest problem. They spend huge amounts of money on top players. They probably have the best squad of any other European club. But they can't compete well in European cups. Ligue 1 is not a good league like England, Italy or Spain. But even this season PSG have hardly managed to take the top spot. I don't even know what could help them.
759  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for June on: June 28, 2023, 06:19:33 PM
For me so far, the 4 hour chart is not indicative of a new dump. Bitcoin is still at the 30k support level. It seems to me that the chart looks more like a flag. If that is the case, a new rise could happen soon. However, on the weekly chart bitcoin stopped at the level of the last local high. We need to break this resistance.
The question is, how can we break this resistance? Because I see that zigzag charts still occur frequently in Bitcoin even though it is still at the $30K support level. I also hoped that a new renaissance would come to Bitcoin soon and thought that a bigger price increase could happen in the near future. Only after seeing that the support is still not over $31K, I don't think a bigger increase is going to happen anytime soon in Bitcoin even though just three days ago it was above $31K.
Each of us sees a different picture on the charts. I see that on the weekly chart the candle opened above 30k. To me that means that the past resistance, which bitcoin tried to break several times, has finally been broken and the price has consolidated above that level. I hope this was not a fake breakout.
760  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for June on: June 28, 2023, 01:25:25 PM
^  True...  It might not drop down as deep as 25k from here on out but that's where support most likely is rn judging from the past price action.

As for the trend going up to 37k, it's looking less likely the more we stay at 30k - 31k.  Hopefully we at least get past above 32k before the week ends.  Check the 4h chart...  It feels like a dump away back to 25k.  Cheesy

But all in all, if the month ended today BTC would be up around 11% for June.  Not bad imo.
For me so far, the 4 hour chart is not indicative of a new dump. Bitcoin is still at the 30k support level. It seems to me that the chart looks more like a flag. If that is the case, a new rise could happen soon. However, on the weekly chart bitcoin stopped at the level of the last local high. We need to break this resistance.
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