the jurys verdict is nothing to do with "satoshi"
again for emphasis. the jury did not give wright any coin or say that wright is the owner of the coin.
its purely about business ownership of a company set up in 2013

wright is not satoshi and thus does not have the private keys to move any coins from 2009. and so there is going to be no coin drama involving the 2009 stash..

calm down folks. its a meaningless verdict thats about business ownership nothing more.

the funny thing is by having a verdict that wright owns the company. now the australian tax office can sue wright for all the tax grant scamming.

im guessing wrights next game is to say he cant move the coins (his excuse) as it would then prove he owns the company(instead of linda(ex wife)) which would lead to the australian tax office lawsuit, so will (his excuse) not move coins to prevent being sued (lame excuse, but what do you expect from wright)

but overall remember
wright is, nor ever has been satoshi. wright never had the private keys. the coins wont move due to wright. so calm down folks. .. wright is still insignificant

edit for below post:
doesnt happen much but i agree with doomad on this one so lets reward him for it

the latest acquisition: 7k coins at 400mill = $59k a coin

if he is willing to buy those MANY coins at $59k each, then he is not going to be willing to sell any below that price. else why buy soo many at a higher price.

if your a retailer buying wholesale bananas last year at 27 cents. and then this year still willing to buy banana's at 59cents. why would you then sell all your stock of bananas at 44cent.. when you could have not bought any of the 59cent bananas and just sold all your 27cent bananas.

the case has NOT proved "satoshi"

it has just proved thats dave K was not part of a company Wright set up in 2013.
that is all.. moving on

just one example:
keeping the taint of movements of a utxos previous transactions is important for KYC and AML stuff
some services still want to avoid accepting transactions that have silkroad taint.
(pre-empt rebuttal:
unless you want to be one of those selfish leachers that request getdata of a new tx received previous taint blocks and then all blocks previous to that to then refind the full taint)

FULL means everything. a full node should do everything. hense the word FULL. by personally not wanting one feature, and pretending its not important because you dont want it. does not then still make the word full, full.. when its not doing the full job.
i get it its ok you dont want to do a full job.. but its not just about archiving. its about being a peer to seed other peers for IBD. its about having the full data to even be able to offer random blocks which as you say 'all it takes is the 'getdata' message'
sorry but if the peers dont have all blocks then your pruned peer cant then 'getdata' from that other peer of  random block X months ago
also if you are offline for a week and all pruned nodes are set to 288 blocks you also cant just resync just the last bit of time you were offline because there is a gap of 5 days of that week between when you went off line until the latest 288 blocks
you also cant offer any of this to others. literally making you as good as a lite wallet for the peer network

theres another thing nodes not listening means they are not offering a full service to the peer network.
but with that said i never said the 14k nodes were all nodes. but just an example selection by which even that selection are not even full nodes

yep being a full node is more then just one thing. correct and thank you for correcting yourself after your earlier defence that you think that being a full nude is only a selected features you thought were important to you. EG you thought a full node didnt need to archive, without realising the other features not available by not archiving. so im glad to see you might have seen the light whereby having all data and all verification done is actually important not just to you, but to the peer network

gosh darn it. i think even blackhatcoiner is starting to get it too. finally seeing the light of the problem
just one note. although it means you by not verifying everything put you at risk by not independently trusting the data. being able to get the data from other peers because they have the data to give is step one of that process. and the more important feature. after all you cant verify data if there are limited/no sources of said data to then independently verify

anyways
like i said if you want to prune. thats your choice, but dont be deceived into thinking your a full node on the peer network helping the network

oh, last note:

sounds like what kakmakr is hinting is a scenario where altnet like LN is refered to as 'bitcoin' where the actual blockchain network is defined as the 'sidechain'. so im surprised Blackhatcoiner has not sided with kakmakr thinking its a good idea. nice to see blackhatcoiner seeing the faults in kakmakrs idea. and takes note of this moment to realise what it actually means

if $1.4k is your entire "disposible" value after bills&meals. dont just buy all $1.4k as soon as its paid in.
look to see if the current price is higher or lower then the weekly/monthly average bitcoin price.

if the price is way above the weeks average it may be a hype bubble/spike so dont put all funds into an order. try and wait for the dip.

always try to buy low/sell high

maybe skip the first week. and just keep that first $1.4 spare in your exchange account. then week 2 buy coin. and if the price then goes down you have spare cash to buy the dip when it happens rather then hoping the lower price is still there the following week(3)

its not crispr
you really have no clue
crispr is about cutting and inserting..
they did not use a crispr process to analyse sars-cov-2

they used the same process as what forensics use to identify criminals from bodily fluid evidence. but more specialised equipment than forensics have, which can show whole sequences of any dna/rna from any sample from any source, whether its human, animal, organism, bacteria or virus.

yes whole sequences not just the S1 S2 spike

maybe if you try reading the reports you will see the equipment used, and you can actually research that or contact the manufacturer..

the lists of sequences i shown you many times are not just sequences. but the methods they found the sequences. try reading the reports and you will find out

.. but nah badecker wont do that because his cult conspiracy site didnt tell him to

my premiss is this
if you just want to validate your own transactions and you dont care about being part of the full node network of peers for the benefit of the bitcoin network universe. then fine you prune or use a lite wallet, whatever you choose. just know and understand that your not part of the full node network.

understand that by you saving your bandwidth/hard drive by not being a seeder means your not helping the real seeders.. and acept that your ok with that 'less than' status, because it fits your lifestyle

but if you want to be a full node then be a full node.
none of this wishy washy 'everyones a full node' pish posh

the network needs to have a strong amount of actual fullnodes
not a 3:11 ratio of full:lesthan group thinking they are all offering a full decentralised service for the network
without even knowing that there is a difference

fullnodes have the entire blockchain all the way upto the latest block. where all blockdata is included and all transactions within are validated. that way chain re-orgs cant happen easily/at all

however pretending that the bitnodes listing of todays 14k nodes are all "full nodes" is not correct thinking and not good in respect of a strong network of available nodes to service other peers

if you didnt validate all blocks. your not a full node
if you dont archive all blocks, to then provide to other peers. your not a full node
if you accept without validating transactions(eg missing witness). your not a full node
if you 'accept' stripped blocks (missing witness) and archive only the 1mb section. your not a full node

in all these cases cannot provide all info to be a good seeder for others.
years ago devs called this being a 'bridged' or 'downstream' node, though even that buzzword was not useful.

the adverts that the network is 'backward compatible' is a mis-information to pretend that old nodes are full. even when they dont validate all active rules and dont store all data per transaction/block

there are many many reasons why people should be proper full nodes to help the decentralisation of the network and avoid chain re-org risks due to many possible reasons.
hiding the risks of pruning, downgrading(or not staying uptodate), weakens the network

here is the thing.
bitnodes lists 14k nodes(at time of writing). but there are not 14k 'fullnodes' listed.
take just one thing. i just searched the nodes at current height and found only 3000 of them fully uptodate
then out of those 3000 nodes. not all of them are using versions 2X.X, meaning LESS than 3000 are even checking for taproot valid transactions
and i havnt even got to those LESS THAN 3000 that are set as prune
meaning right now at time of typing out of the 14k nodes listed on bitnodes. less than 3k of them are actually able to offer full node peer services. and be able to relay the latest block solved by a pool. all the others(11k) are missing blocks or have not fully validated taproot transactions properly using the new rules. or have the full blockchain for IBD

bitcoins crucial feature is that as long as you keep your private key private no one can take your funds

adding in features to take funds off people, by some silly reason like that person has not touched the coin in 10 years. is ripe for abuse, and should be treated as theft.

if people lose their key. thats their fault. no one should be able to have anyway to take coins off them for silly reasons.

if you want to offer any code that allows fund stealing. start with your own coins. let people take your coins off you because if have not moved them recently

no one should get free coins for doing nothing but hoping that other people want to hoard them long term

i appreciate that some do know the basics, but it appears some others do not. also this forum is open to all people who may want to learn. so instead of using buzzwords only devs know meanings of, or creating a culture of talking in special ways that only those "in the club" would know like some elitist group, sometimes its best to actually teach readers and not presume that things must be avoided because 'special group already knows'
(ive noticed this club culture alot)

anyways
its not a situation that pruned nodes should limit their depth to 288 blocks. its that nodes should have the latest 288 blocks. mainly to have 288confirm protection from chain re-orgs

some merchants/custodians with customers depositing once a month. may want to keep full block details of say 3 months, for their own personal accounting checks and algorithms.

the whole fingerprinting. is just those privacy guys wanting to not offer any specific info through their tor connection that can also be compared to their clearnet IP connection. EG if they all default to 288 blocks. they are then just a shadow in a crowd of shadows showing nothing unique that stands out


many pruners(leachers) are not the type that stay online 24/7.. they are usually popping online connecting to a full node peer grabbing 2week-2month re-sync in a couple hours. doing their own transaction and going offline.
thus not being online 24-7 to only request 6 blocks an hour as a plod along stay uptodate scenario.
thus full node peers are getting more connections demanding thousands of blocks an hour per connection and then seeing that peer disconnect and not a plod along 6 blocks an hour stay online situation.
this off-on-off scenario also means pruners are not online long enough to be 'latest block' seeders to take pressure off the full nodes by not being online to accept connections from others so that full nodes dont have to.. but instead full nodes still end up with genuine users wanting to help the network plodding along at 6 blocks an hour PLUS all the leachers dropping in and out at thousands of blocks an hour. plus all the genuine IBD people.
which is why many supernodes blacklist the pruners. and not connect to them

blachhatcoiner
other people read this. other people can learn from this. its not a private message. so dont turn it into an opportunity to be a drama queen. even newbies read this topic!!
and no. dont poke the bear causing drama hoping i bite so you can play victim.

its not a situation to act like an elitist bussworder hiding basic info unless a newbie drops a message asking for clarity. its a situation that newbies are here. this topic is open to all. not just 3 people

side note: this topic was created by a newbie. so backdown thinking that mentioning flaws should only be held in private conversation with minimal people and anyone mentioning flaws should be shunned. people can learn from flaws, and the hope is that devs also learn so they can fix the flaws. hiding things helps no one

maxwells latest defence is that one victim is NOW an actress and is crying crocodile tears which she has been trained to do due to being an actress..

also she has psychologists trying to spread doubt in witness/victims memory

the thing is. many of the victims(if you followed the epstein case) made police statements at the time of their assaults when they were teenagers and so before any even went to acting school or had time to forget what occured.

seems maxwell is not looking for proof of innocence, but instead just enough doubt in witness/victim testimony to get a 'reasonable doubt' verdict of not guilty. but i doubt it will work.

she is guilty. guilty. guilty. maybe better to plead guilty and name and shame for a reduced sentence deal.

the importance of the pilots evidence is not so much about any innappropriate acts happening on the plane in view of the pilot, but simply that maxwell and epstein brought the girls across state lines, thus ticking the first of 2 boxes about trafficking minors

badecker and tash
both of you idiots have been told over a dozen times.

its been isolated alot.. like millions of times already
lots of labs in lots of countries. lots of variants

its how they can spot new variants
you have been shown reports and those reposts also list the lab guys and doctors involved so you can contact them

your inability to even contact an expert or read a scientific report and only reply about quotes you found on cultish websites of conspiracy numbskulls, shows how you really deserve me calling you an idiot every time

your inability to learn or have an independent thought of your own is too obvious. as its your ignorance and memory issues

now grow up and read the reports already linked to you both many times before. and if still in doubt contact the lab techs and doctors listed on the reports

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a congressman senator does not work in a lab. you wont find any government(senator/congressman) with a virus isolate report produced by the government.

maybe try actually contacting viral labs and medical institutions instead(you know, the actual lab techs and institutions that actually do the work for the government)

stop being anal by asking government for a report that the government produced. because thats like asking a toddler for report of a car the toddler built with their own hands in a ford factory. simply becasue a toddler says his family has a car..
toddlers use cars(via their parents driving) but toddlers dont make the car

try asking ford for a report on their cars

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if someone was 5steps up and then now 4 steps up.. did they fall down, or take a step down

dont think of a dip as a fall/crash. think of it as a discount period or settling back nearer to value instead of premium

no one should fear discounts.
would you really cry if your cars gas price got cheaper, knowing in the end it will go premium price again

more that prune.. means more that DONT HAVE THE FULL BLOCKCHAIN.. why.. because they pruned
yep pruned nodes dont have the full blockchain. you can tell because they only have 7gb of space used not 360gb.
more people with only 7gb which is mostly only the last fortnight means more people that dont have all the data since genesis.
this then means more leachers are all then relying on less full nodes that do have 360gb full blockchain. and those less full nodes with full blockchain have to broadcast more data to those leachers meaning more centralised.


its an old phrase 'supernodes', but its a thing. the big main fullnodes of pools and exchanges select who they want to connect with for anti-DDos security and also to ensure they are linked to other important nodes for transaction relay efficiency.  

imagine pools/exchanges at the centre of a network and they transmit data out. like an exploding star. where each peer(planets) expands the universe of nodes outwards.
the lite/pruned wallets/nodes wont be seen as a priority nodes which the planets near the explosion want to transmit to. instead lite/pruned nodes are far out at the edge of the universe.
[not to be confused with an alt-nets bad naming buzzword for a channel]


a pruned node keeps X amount of most recent block
new users wanting to IBD(initial block download) start from block 0 not from block 560,000
so a pruned node only keeping block 560k to 712k wont have blocks 0-559k. and thus the new peer will disconnect and try finding another peer. meaning the pruned nodes are not getting any sustained downstream connections and there for they become the outer edge of the peer universe.

its the same for old version nodes that dont store all the witness data. new nodes will reject the data because its not full witness and disconnect from the node leaving the old node at the edge of the universe

the only LEGIT 'interest' is in the PoS coins where custodians merge many users value into large addresses to stake coins for PoS block rewards.

however PoW coins like bitcoin do not earn interest. they are usually put into custodians trust and that custodian then does trades using users coins HOPING for profit. but this is not legit or guaranteed. and expect losses

in both cases giving funds to an exchange long term can put your funds at risk. not just at a bad trade the custodian does but also the custodian doing an MTGOX on its users. or like the other exchanges done with their 'we been hacked' retirement plans for themselves

dont trust any exchange offering money for nothing. if they could make money for nothing.. they would not need yours, they would be self profiting.
if they could make money why would they give it away

if its too good to be true.. its not

100,000 is six digits
123 456
but achieving that in the final month is not happening

the buyer/miner demand is not there for a push past $80k
everyone on the planet no matter their electric price can mine bitcoin below $80k a coin price so no one sees value in purchasing it above $80k right now
if your in iceland where you can mine for $30k why would you buy for $100k, why would you buy for $80k why would you buy for $65k. you wouldnt
if you are in europe where you can mine for $40k why would you buy for $100k,$80k,$65k

yes japan has high costs and so they would buy for $65k but why would they buy for $100k

from a pure emotional, naive, pump of social drama speculation(hype bubble). the price may overdramatise temporarily to that level but from a sustainable value of a prolonged stay at $100k. no chance, this year
but this hype bubble must be some very energising news piece that tickles the naive trader to buy on a high, and i think enough lessons were learned in the $20k ATH a few years ago and the $1.2k ATH spike a few years before that. where most traders dont feed in as much to 'buy the hype. FOMO' anymore

people are more informed now to FOMO buy on the dips rather than the pumps. hense why the likely hood of seeing the price dip to $30k is far less chance than seeing it pump to $100k this month

so dragons tale was not a thing?
http://www.dragons.tl/games.php

i said back in 2013-14ish that dragons tale could have been expanded into not just gambling using sats but actually let users add more content like uploading images of products they sell which can be seen ingame and users can buy them and message delivery location.(3D ebay)

it is possible and graphic render detail has moved on since the days of dragon tale.

the obvious route..
facebook acts as custodian. like exchange deposits. then you make micropayments within your  custodian account offchain.
heck, knowing the plan some devs have. maybe even users can become the exchange 'hubs'
yes it wont be a 'all onchain' thing, because then how will facebook take their cut. facebook dont work for free

pruned nodes are not a trust thing.
all nodes(pruned or full) initially see a complete copy of all blocks and all transactions within.
just a pruned node does not archive them all.

this means a pruned node is not a (torrent buzzword) 'seeder' peer to then give that full information to others. thus peers disconnect from them and search for proper full nodes to get the data

if everyone pruned then no new users can then see the full blockchain to then do a full verification of all transactions.
.

this means the more people that prune. the less archives are decentralised. meaning less peers available to get the full blockchain from.
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if your a random user that doesnt do much transactions or spend much time with your node running, whereby being a seeder or wanting to be part of the network is not important to you then fine prune. but if you care about decentralisation and want to be a full node then dont prune.

but just be aware that being a pruned node does not make you part of the full decentralised network, you are more of the edge of the network, deemed a (torrent buzzword)'leacher' peer, not a seeder peer. by which you are shrinking/centralising the network by reducing the amount of full node(seeder) peers available, plus also putting those remaining seeder peers under more strain to transmit their full blockchains downstream to random peers by being relied on more as blockchain sources

this can lead to a paradigm where full node archive nodes (seeders) need high bandwidth(unlimited data) internet plans because they are getting more demand, just to service the leachers. leading to another drop off of full nodes due to expense of servicing leachers. or leachers/new peers having a delay in finding seeder peers due to demand because seeder peers limit their connections to not use excessive data. both of which can shrink/centralise the amount of full nodes available, or slowdown the speed of getting blockdata

i wonder where zuck got the idea

i wonder if zuck will let users play cow tipping to gamble for crypto

'tulip bubble'
hundreds of years later.. people can still go to a garden store and buy tulips

a bubble does not mean the item has zero value
a bubble does not mean once burst the value goes to zero

a bubble just means the price is inflated way above a viable value

housing bubbles did not kill real estate. people still buy houses