bank refunds are not where the bank just 'takes back' funds from a thief and put it back into a victims account

the bank uses their own reserve to compensate the victim. and then separetly they seek justice against the thief.
usually by freezing his account unless he can prove funds are justified as his.
if not justified banks then debit the thiefs account to reimburse the banks losses
so in short.
no banks dont just take funds from a theif and hand it back to the victim


so yea when someone is FIAT scammed for buying $2k of giftcards for a nigerian prince.
the victim is compensated from the bank
then the bank would consult the giftcard company to freeze the utility of the giftcard and the gift card company then compensates the bank
the giftcard company then freezes the card until expiry to ensure its never spent

..
yes bitcoin does not have a way to blacklist/freeze transactions
but this is where users need to be self governing and independently smart with their funds and not be reliant on middle men to save them

name 5 freedoms you have lost in your lifetime

..
oh and please name which generation you call the perfect 'america' you are aiming to get back to.
name 10 freedoms you liked that are lost in all of history.

i actually want to know how you envision what america was/suppose to be

you pretend to want a free america.. but you have never known what this imaginary america is.
you have all these high hopes. but you dont even know what freedom is.
you have never even grasped the basics.
nor have you even thought about what is the cause and effect and consequence of your 'fredeom'

so come on badecker.
write out your vision of america.
explain the freedoms
explain he problems and the solutions


dont just cry 'america aint free' .. explain your fantasty..

had second vaccine other day.
no arm ache this time
maybe a bit of fatigue. but then again i am up at weird hours communicating with businesses in different time zones so its not really a symptom thats any different then i normally get

but im still not dead.

anyway..
37million UK folk have had the vaccine...
.. there's not been 37mill deaths
.. there's not been 370k deaths(1%)
.. there's not been 37k deaths(0.1%) related to being caused by or associated or within timeframe of vaccine
.. there's not been 3k deaths(0.01%) related to being caused by or associated or within timeframe of vaccine
.. there's not been 300 deaths(0.001%) related to being caused by or associated or within timeframe of vaccine

these battles have been organised for years

a decade ago there was news of a UK football(soccer) team owner funding to get families to move into housing around the temple that is part of all this controversy

it was an organised territory dispute/takeover
westbank trying to circle around the temple at take it over as westbank territory instead of isreal

..
this year its about isreal trying to 'evict' (using force) and to stop the westbank from being able to pray and live near the temple

..
segregation and territory disputes are not the solution.. they are the problem
just unite everyone and stop the hate. find respect in both religions to live side by side is the solution
integration not segregation

OP
stop playing as if you are smart.

if you can hack bitcoin you would have raided satoshis's stash by now
there are a couple old coins using old publickeys that have made transactions(satoshi-hal) making them addresses weaker than the rest
that one particular address is full of coins amounting to over $1m(30+coins)

so if you really were a 'hacker' and bitcoin could be hacked. that address should be empty after 10 years of you 'hacking' bitcoin..

.. but oh wait. its still has the cons. and all coins of all known cold store from 2009+ are where they suppose to be

the only 'hack's that have happened are from remote user hacks on wallets.. or idiots that have very simple pneumonic 'brainwallets'

thats not smart hacking or even perceived as clever.
so stop pretending you are some great developer that has broke bitcoin.. you havnt

as with all things, nothing is ever initially illegal.
so free markets cant just suddenly 'licence' things to only the few..

all things that the elites want the privilege of, they first have to do an outright ban on everyone. and then loosen the rules for their privilege.

its how the NY bitlicence happened.
they baned it in NY and then the government guy that implemented the bitlicence. then resigned and joined a private company to advise elitists on how they can get a licence to be able to get bitcoin
funny that.. but nothing new

same happened with alcohol 100 years ago. ban it to destroy the home brewery/moonshiners. then later only allow it to be sold if under a alcohol licence/permit

and its how slowly normal people wont be able to just make a wire transfer and buy bitcoin themselves.
because normal mainstreet residential banks wont allow wire transfers to exchanges

it will become an example where people have to use certain institutional exchanges to buy 'options'/ETF shares in bitcoin trusts rather than buying the actual bitcoin.

future advice. not needed immediately. but for prep:
hoard any coins you got. and do what i do. have local people you know that want to buy in and i do cash in hand trades with them.

alot of people think of iran based on the news reports..
when they see iran they think



but the reality is. iran actually looks more like


iran also has electric at just 1 cent/kwh
so even if you then need to pay for ventilation. is only ~2cent/kwh

..
but yes if you live in the most remotest part of the country. youe electric is going to be spotty.
bu thats the same for australia and america

many american hillbillies still dont have  constant power supply

top thinking price drop...
start thinking.. discount buying day

buy bitcoin. and when the price rises. sell the profit. and pretty much get a free tesla that cost you no fiat income
thank elon for a free car

give it a couple weeks....
Elon will realise that instead of thinking: 20% of mining is in china.. and XX% of chinese residential electric is fossil fuel

he will realise that the mining farms are located in locations of renewable power grids.
he will realise that the mining farms dont even compete by using a share of the residential power allotment.but they buy up the excess 'capacity' which is never paid for before and just went to waste.


put it this way if there is a 20gwh capacity power station
it is usually servicing 6.6gw residential 6.3gw commercial 4.8 industrial. 2gw excess

a mining farm buys up contracts of the 2gw excess allotment

this means instead of a powergrid only getting say
residential per hour: $396k at 6c/kwh
commercial per hour: $315k at 5c/kwh
industrial per hour: $192k at 4c/kwh
excess: $0
instead the power station gets(onlong with the top 3)
excess: $80k at 4c/per kwh
...
asic mining farms actually chose from 2014 to place their mining farms in renewable energy area's

so while small rural residents are using outdated power stations in other locations of china.
asic mining farms are in the uptodate area's where renewable power generation are happening

..
so in short elon will take a couple weeks to do the calculations and realise that bitcoin is already under 1% of fossil fuel utility
and he will then learn that there are no large asic mining farms for doge. and its actually home hobby miners using residential electric from fossil fuel area's that are mining doge. making doge the worse of the two

....
and if its just about trying to shame china..
china uses 6880 twh
US uses 4194 twh

but lets put it into prospective
china uses 4.178twh per 1m population
US uses 12.67twh per 1mill population

so the US is wasting 3x electric per person compared to china

its soft.

so far no option of hard fork. and no option of a forced fork/contentious fork. (all good signs)

if it doesnt get its 90% over a 2 week period it just wont lock in/activate.
but has many 2 week oportunities over the next 3 months

so far based on the latest 1day % is at about ~85% acceptance
so i see its getting close to having met threshold (within inches so far)
so as long as pools dont pull out it could lock in within a month.
as it just needs a few more % and them to then hold it for 2 weeks+

if it does lock in, it then allows 3 further months to then upgrade software before it activates (giving users time to update)

i see no contention or malice practices by devs trying to force the issue

there were other exchanges back then but they are gone now
such as mtgox and btc-e

bu the 'cry' might be:
cryptsy or cryptorush... both gone now


and to answer below.
cryptopia was founded in 2014+..not 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bitcoin_companies

BitPay    2011    
Bitstamp    2011    
Blockchain.info    2011
Kraken    2011    
Bitfinex    2012
Coinbase    2012
LocalBitcoins    2012
Paxos    2012    
BitGo    2013    
BitMain    2013    
Canaan Creative    2013
Circle    2013
Ghash.io (CEX.IO)    2013
Huobi    2013
ShapeShift    2013

some people cry 'crash'

smart people applaud 'discount buy day'

..anyone crying at $54k that they missed the chance to buy in cheap. should be buying in now and take the oppertunity.

i have hoarded for years and even im not upset. instead i found some spare fiat and bought more.
i dont need more. but even a 30%+ discount cant be ignored

no one posted it in 2017.. why
because before you came along this form had a higher IQ and just didnt bother posting crap posts about conspiracy theories..

but now you came along. people need to correct idiots like you. becasue you seem to want to post stupid irrelevant lies

and so yea you posting now. gives me a reason to debunk you.

just get the hint already
if you actually bothered to start posting real facts and stuff that can be backed up.. no by more conspiracy sites. but but critical factual evidence.

then your topics might have something meaningful to talk about rather then an endless game of correcting your stupid posts

so please can you try for once to make a topic that has some factual relevance. where it actually has some substance of meaning and is based on reality

if the QE money jumps straight into the M0(monetary base) then yes scream hyper inflation
but if they can syphon it quick into the M2 mutual funds, reserves and derivatives they can avoid a sharp spike in the M0

in simple terms.
if they can take it out of active circulation of its citizens they can avoid hyper inflation

..anyway..
going from
m0 jan 2020 - $4 trill
m0 mar 2021 - 5.25trill
is not going to cause a hyper inflation as its only a 30% leap

but looking at for instance M3.
which only increased by 6% each year upto 2020(then jumped)
from
m3 2013 - $100trill
m3 q1 of 2020- $124trill
m3 jumped to $146trill in Q2 of 2020
m3 jumped to $163tril in Q1  of 2021

as you can see going from
100-124 in 8 year
then 124-163 in 1 year.

is alot of QE and money management stuff happening away from citizen bank accounts
and citizens only seeing a QU uptick of $4t-$5.25t .. which is nothing in comparison

you are soo outdated

there were rumour of an arrest by conspiracy idiots from 2017
so thats 4 years outdated
and yes even them reports in 2017 have been debunked


the only legal thing presented to bill gates in 2021.. is divorce papers
.. please catch up to reality.. your going backwards


facts about 2021
a 39yo man who commonly calls himself willie gates jr was arrested
separetly
ex-microsoft guy bill gates was served divorce papers

when you wake up.. you will realise god did not write the bible..

isreal wrote the original stories to favour themselves
get it yet. if your the author of a  law book. you are going to create laws that favour you. favour your lifestyle and favour the things you want.

call it the "arizona rulez" and yea it will start with pretending that idiots in arizona are really smart because they can have freedoms like pissing in the wind while drinking a beer.. it makes no sense why anyone wants that freedom. obviously you should piss away from the wind. but idiots just want the freedom to pee towards the wind 'coz arizona rulez'

so now idiots like yourself will think that its good and proper to piss in the wind, where getting the backsplash on your denim jeans should be seen as a honour and a show of freedom

maybe your grandkids become totalitarian enough to then want anyone without wet smelly urine jeans to be classed as second rate citizens who do not deserve to live in your state.. all because you are the author of your rulebook

see my point.
you can pretend some divine mystery man imparted this influential law onto you and you then wrote it down in a book. but the reality is you wrote the book of the laws that you want to favour your lifestyle. even if those law are impractical. and full of silly things

..
but one thing is surprising.
suddenly you are ok blaming a religion and god..
i thought you were soo immersed in the bible that you would be kissing ass any act that favours the people in the bible

he is not interested in winning any trial
he is doing slapp lawsuits.. hoping they pay some meaningful amount out of their own pockets to make him go away

but he is an idiot at trying this game. because he has already lost his hand by doing soo many lawsuits it gives the game away that he wont stop filing new claims .. and so no one is willing to pay up. as they know he wont stop.

its not making laws to force mixing
its repealing laws that forced segregation

but if you want to have new laws.here is a simple few
have banks actually get vetted regularly.. if mcdonalds can do 'mystery shopping' then banks should too.. send in some undercover regulators both with the same credit rating. one white. one black.
and see if they are given the same mortgage offer.. fine the bank if not
or skip the mystery shop and go straight to the audits
have auditors check all mortgage contracts based on race. and look at their credit rating to find comparable black vs white contracts.

we are in the 21st century of AI. sifting through 50million mortgages can be done in like 7 minutes or less

chicken or egg
blacks fear cops in their neighbourhood more then white folk fear cops in white neighbourhoods
the solution is not about black or white neighbourhoods.. the solution is integrating people together and uniting people so that there is no separate neighbourhoods
..
putting aside that debate
there is also aot of pressure being put on about slavery.. and yet there is not one single person alive today that was a slave or slave master.
100+ years ago. all living slaves got compensated. and all slave masters no longer had slaves.

yet 150 years later its being pressured to act like its a common problem of the 21st century that needs solving
.. a problem that was solved 100+ years ago

most blacks do not actually care about slavery because they know they are not slaves. but its the SJW and media portraying that its a current event

people cant move forward if the SJW and media are playing games that have nothing to do with current realities

the message of wanting real world current event equality gets misrepresented by the crap SJW and media blare out about non current events.

blacks dont want segregation. LGBTQ dont want segregation... but the SJW are the idiots who are promoting labels and classifications to segregate people