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8241  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Taproot proposal on: June 12, 2021, 09:28:07 AM
i know you are saying that the majority do empty block
but that is YOUR opinion and YOUR pre-set mindset.
its not what the reality of what the network is doing

a empty block occurs 0.5% of the time. of blocks (seems you think i meant time as in time)
however when there is a stale block. its because pools are continuing to mine their attempt while validating a block

if the network was majority empty block mining before validating previous blocks the network would see more stales and orphans than it actually does

the empty block/stales and orphan occurrence is super low. indicating the use of a 'pre-validation empty block' strategy is not the norm/majority.

..
yes there is a valid concern IF pools were all idiots and were spv mining and empty block mining. . but they are not.
put it another way
starting a new block many seconds before a pool that full validates a broadcast block would give the empty block pool a headstart. meaning if majority of pools were doing it the majority of blocks would solve their empty block faster than a full validation pool
this would end up with majority of blocks being empty blocks. but reality of 2020 show 0.5%

so i hope you can understand 0.5% of the network do empty blocks because 0.5% of blocks in 2020 were empty blocks

so calm down your fears. as its not a 'majority of network' thing
once and for all realise YOUR opinion of how many pools are empty mining without validation is YOUR error of judgement and causing you to endlessly spiral down a argument of meaningless fear

so move on. the network is safe

EDIT: below kano wants to continue a derail about his beleifs that the network is weak because in his mind every pools uses crappy stratum software that doesnt validate blocks..
he pretends empty blocks are all found in 3 seconds

yet looking at block data just today
if all pools were empty blocking and all empty blocks were found in 3 seconds. then all blocks would be 3 seconds apart and empty

however i found one of the rare empty blocks.. and strangely it was 3 MINUTES after its previous block
687238-687239

seems kano has been reading too many 'bitcoin is broken' conspiracy tweets where they always finger point at the pools(facepalm)

..
anyway back on topic.
TR locked in. no drama no fuss.
i personally wont be using it as i prefer my keys spread out and unaffiliated. but glad there was no coercion/mandates to get this upgrade going
8242  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Increasing outgoing connection limit on: June 12, 2021, 02:50:45 AM
dont worry about it too much

the theory of 6degree of separation is at play
if you (1) are connected to 6 peers(6^1)=6 nodes see your tx
if those 6 are connected to 6 each (6^2)=36 nodes see your tx
if those 36 are connected to 6 each (6^3)=216 nodes see your tx
if those 216 are connected to 6 each (6^4)=1296 nodes see your tx
if those 1296 are connected to 6 each (6^5)=7776 nodes see your tx
if those 7776 are connected to 6 each (6^6)=46656 nodes see your tx

as you can see your transaction does not require leapfrogging over 46000 hops one by one to get to the entire network
each peer branch of 6 hops it forward through their branch of 6 and within just 6 hops the entire network of 46k nodes has seen it. which is mere seconds. for 6 hops of 6 peer average

increasing the peers at your end doesnt make much difference to the hops needed.
your 1 to 12 peers =12
those 12 still average 6 peers=72
those 72 still average 6 peers=432
those 432 still average 6 peers=2592
those 2592 still average 6 peers=15552
those 15552 still have 6 peers=93332

so as you can see its still 6^6

it may bring it down to 5 hops. which is meer milliseconds of difference. but the downside is you as a relayer of other peoples tx's before you.. will then be sending all their tx's out in more data multipliers thus using more of your bandwidth.


what important is not the number of connections above 10 as that only changes things slightly. its making sure you node is connected to good healthy full node peers that are not just spv/lite leacher wallets that dont relay and just take data and forget without passing it on

basically if all your 6-10 peers are leacher wallets that dont relay. then yea your tx is gonna get stuck
if all your 6-10 peers are full nodes that do relay. then your TX will get sent around the network very quick

its more of a game of who rather than how many
so check the useragents and versions of nodes your connected to to make sure your not connected to any/many leacher nodes
maybe if you know a good popular service that has multiple connections on their side and they are connected to popular services with multiple connections. then you being directly connected in that higher multiplier can help.. but you just doubling your peer count would half the time it takes for tx to get around


i hope this makes sense
8243  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Taproot proposal on: June 12, 2021, 01:46:07 AM
oh kano...(facepalm)
no the 0.5% is not some time conversion meaning 3 seconds(your premiss)
its actually the blocks that occured throughout 2020 where out of 58000 blocks only 280 of them were empty blocks. its got nothing to do with YOUR "3 second" maths of 600seconds / 5%.

its got everything to do with the small insignificant utility of doing empty blocks

anyway. as for your "not sure where you got that statement from but its not true"
i quoted YOU. infact you quoted me quoting you. thus double obvious where that statement came from

seems your forgetting what you wrote and then spinning a different version of events as if you never said the first version of events you implied even when its clearly been quoted of what you said

one last time.. so take a seat. relax and slowly understand things. have a cup of coffee after and actually let the information be absorbed.
YOU said majority of network would build onto a invalid block..
I SAID no. majority of blocks are NOT built ontop of via the 'empty block strategy'
as proven by only 280 blocks out of 58000 blocks statistic

i debunked you by showing you the under 280 of 58000 stat for 2020. which shows that majority of pools DO NOT build ontop of invalid blocks due to the low amount of empty block strategy being used.

i hope you get it now. accept that empty block strategy is not used as often as you presume

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now a reminder of the math. for the last time. so please allow it to soak in
0.5% is the number of empty blockers (those who build on a block thats not been validated yet)
5% is the under 5% that have not signalled a desire to upgrade to TR
=under 0.025% that 'could' ignorantly accept an errored block
then with other factors included..(basically assuming a 10% risk/intent) puts it at a 0.0025% risk of an intentional event.

...
so lets just pretend you stepped a few steps forward and realised the chance of it happening is 0.0025%

your then asking what about those that then build on top of that
seriously your talking about "those".. meaning you want to interrogate who the 0.0025% pools are
well it does not matter in the end. as its a small insignificant proportional risk of a insignificant amount that would want to make an alt. and even if they did. so be it. they are an alt.. bye bye moving on

meaning 99.975% have rejected that block and moved on and just accepting normal blocks
yawn. no drama. non event. didnt even notice it happen coz its such an insignificant event
just like all other orphans that have ever occured in the last 12 years that no one talks about or realised even occured unless they specifically went and looked

realise that is like a negligible amount/opportunity that would make their own altcoin if they wished to proceed down their path. and thus it does not impact the rest of the network
..
the orphan rate drama just self regulates it out.
at a risk of 0.0025%
a meaningless number of insignificance

again.. the chances of a pool making an empty block is about 280 out of say 52k+
the chances of a empty block building ontop of a faulty block due to not being an upgraded node is even less
the chance of a pool  normal game theory incentive. and intentionally wanting to cause an error even less

so please stop saying/thinking that majority of the network does the empty block strategy, let alone other false presumptions
because stats show the very opposite.

majority of stratum servers(pools) are NOT SPV nodes making empty blocks

this is the final time im going to repeat myself. because it seems you are not understanding stats and numbers and quotes
step passed your pre conceived notion that majority of pools are amateurs that use crappy stratum software.
as thats not reality.
8244  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Taproot proposal on: June 11, 2021, 11:39:02 PM
While it is only a short timeframe after each block change, the majority of the network hashrate will mine on an invalid transaction for a short period of time after the block change.

majority of network does not just stop mining their own block attempt when first seeing a new block header.
majority of network actually continues its block effort until a new block is validated.

less than 0.5% of blocks are 'empty blocked' (280blocks of 58k are empty(2020stats))
adding to that the amount of pools that are not signalling for TR is under 5%

so at very max its a 0.5% of 5%. meaning with other factors at play. the end the result is a 0.0025% risk
definitely not a 'majority of network will mine'

so calm down(seems im repeating myself)
As I've mentioned before, the issue is if anyone else then finds a quick block without any invalid transactions in it, on top of the invalid one, what pools will continue on that block, and for how long?
um i dont think any would. as the odds are super low
as there is no large economic incentive /positive reason to waste so much cost on doing this intentionally. (standard game theory)
but it seems you believe majority of pools will do this because its your belief that majority of pools do use crappy stratums and spv wallets and do empty blocks as standard.. so maybe you should be asking yourself which pools would be doing this.
8245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The "craphole" world being created by the Dems. on: June 11, 2021, 11:25:17 PM

oh badecker.. do you even read
the blogger your quoting is arguing
a. over population in cities
b. extermination of population

cant you understand the blogger is just making random rants to garner loyal idiots into his fan base by poking at both sides and then defending both sides of a population debate.
in short he is trending both sides of the story . meaning the rant is in effect a empty rant

even the housing issue.
a. hates people living in apartments
b. hates people getting into nature and living in cabins/tents

basically A says the solution is to become a nomad. and B is that he hates that police wont arrest nomads

its also saying that while police wont arrest nomads meaning free to move and live.. it says they think cities will be locked down and inescapable and have people arrested if they are seen moving about

again making the rant empty of value by going in both directions just to sound trendy to both sides

dont you get it yet. your influencers are not making any sane/rational point. they just want to garner fanboys into liking them because they want to appease everyone while solving/offering nothing of actual value


you cant cry about over population whilst then taking away womans freedoms to choose if they want to remain pregnant.
you cant hate allowing freedom of movement and seeking shelter for oneself and then promote freedom of movement and freedom of shelter for oneself

8246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 10, 2021, 11:26:18 PM
tvbcof doesnt do the research

he scouts conspiracy sites and known idiots on twitter and just rehashes what they say without checking..
he is one step above you because you only quote the same main sites over and over and even after a year you still advertise the same false crap without even taking 10 minutes out of your life to even check if what you say has any validity.

tvbcof is tame compared to you. but he still fails alot
take the saRNA stuff
he was quoting crap about vaccine replication. using the same dumb terminology as idiots.

it was me that was telling people that to replicate it needs mRNA to be combined with saRNA
and he spent months trying to find atleast something that mentions saRNA in conjunction to vaccines.. but he didnt take a lil extra time to check if what he found had any validity towards the vaccine that is publicly being used

a prime example of your idiotic repeats..
you keep using the stupid silly buzzword 'chemtrail' but you have no clue and its obvious.
if you bothered to even take my hint months ago of 'cloud seeding' which is the technical term. then maybe you could have taken yourself in a more modern and uptodate path that atleast sounds like your not an idiot that just repeats other peoples nonsense

yep each time you say chemtrail. you are just showing you know nothing and you dont even do any research or understand the subject matter you pretend to talk about
8247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 10, 2021, 10:54:17 PM
even a so called useless study can have a use,
but like i said . it needs context. and something to compare it to. to help validate it

yes in feb/march Us/UK was not good at testing people.
but thats not to say testing was useless

it was purposefully limited to the sickest people with symptoms to identify what they had to then suggest how to treat them and what to expect as possible symptom progression

yes useless as a stat for community spread as it wasnt used for community testing of pre-symp. asymp or mild symptomatic people in the community.

but by testying those entering hospital atleast had some use to know what was causing their ailments and symptoms that then progressed and in some cases caused death which then allowed them to know the cause of death from entering thte hospital until last breath.

as long as you can understand the contest and limitation of a study you can still find useful info from it.

however yes there are other studies.. where idiots like tvbcof dont understand the context. heck they dont even read half of the study. they just take abstracts of exerts from a study that fills their biased view and fits their narrative.

they call it their science. when its funny how they dont even understand the science to actually know the context of what they read.

take tvbcof the other day he found some leaflet talking about vaccines with saRNA. but he didnt read it or check it in detail to realise the vaccine that went through the trials and then publicly used had a name with b2. yet he was adement that people were being injected with c2.
simply because he didnt ready the studies properly.. and now he is trying to blame science for his dyslexia
8248  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 10, 2021, 09:53:07 PM
lets just use another example as it seems somes only reading half a history book and arguing about what he read rather than the big picture of this topic

so right now in the tigray region of ethiopia.. 2million people are displaced out of 7million
an election was held in november and the previous government are dismissing it
300k people are in famine due to purposefully stopping food transports to an area

..
meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people around the world are spending $10-$50 on their placard and picnic protests

imagine it $1-5mill being spent on placards to do with another country in famine. but $0 of that placard money.. $0.. zero ends up buying a single bottle of water for those in famine.

yea american protest it. and some dude that owns a woodshop is making mega bucks selling wood placards. but is he really actually helping solve the famine in ethiopia.. nah.

american defense and 3leter branches already know about the tigray struggles. so. placards and picnics are doing nothing.

even unicef is making megabucks providing aid.

but here is the thing
those people in Ethiopia wont get food any faster if they just stood on the streets with placards.
what they need to do is organise the community.
find out who is a truck driver. who owns a truck. and then organise locating and getting food for themselves.
even if it means crossing borders.

they need to come to some agreement with the government to find a peaceful resolution.
again this is not stand on the street with a placard
its actually pen to paper. make a list of both demands. and 'wants' and what they can offer in return

petition it. get signatures to show its a big enough deal. EG 300000 signatures of starving people.(too many to arrest or shoot)

placards and chanting fall on death ears..
which normally end up turning into unorganised chaos of guns and killing.
but smart decisive pen to paper petitions is the faster yet calmer rout to resolutions
8249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Equivalent Network Time on: June 10, 2021, 08:20:26 PM
each coin of mine is worth only 12-24 seconds each
..
but how come there is no value in the fact that my utxo's are now built with like 400,000 blocks ontop of it thus making them far far far more difficult to re-org the blockchain to spend them

it would cost a hell of alot of mining power to rebuild a change from 2012. far more then rebuilding a chan that just edited the last block today

so why again is a 2012 block worth less than a 2021 block

look i totally get it coins in 2012 were only 12seconds of time which were based on pretty mucch gpu.
which is like 120 watts for 12 seconds so pretty much pennys

but ever thought of a representation where utxo with more confirms are worth more
8250  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 10, 2021, 07:11:18 PM
well if people are talking about the covid death numbers.

its simple
take the number of people dying within reasonable time of testing positive for covid. WHO HAD THE SYMPTOMS

then look at all mortality death.
and separately look at the 2 separate data points

what you will find is if the all mortality rate went up. and the only common denominator change to the environment was covid

and then when you look at the covid death numbers and realise their spikes and dips fit into the EXCESS death numbers neatly.

you start to see that covid did cause more deaths than normal

..
if covid cause zero deaths and it was just a error of reporting cause of normal deaths.. there would not be excess deaths. .. nor would there be a pattern between the excess deaths and the new event

but reality shows that there was excess deaths and that coincided with covid deaths being the cause of the uptick rise in deaths.. thus covid does cause deaths.

and once you have analysed the data..
then you can go ask the doctors on ICU wards.
then will give you witness testimony that people were dying due to infections in their lungs and not something else.. like excess gun shootings.
yep ICU were not filled with excess gun shooting victims. they were filled with lung infection patients
who subsequently died.

thus adding to the proof that covid causes deaths
8251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 10, 2021, 06:58:02 PM
ok well you keep thinking 'unifying many voices as one' =throwing tea in the sea = the way to go...

meanwhile other people can unify in the legal system of actual petitions and resolutions and govern their area.

what you fail to see is
the tea party was just a group of men peed off that britain was selling tea cheaper than the blackmarket tea from other countries.
they also didnt like it when england was selling tea to cough 'pirates' cough who then sold indian tea as blackmarket tea for a premiium.

but this tea event. was not the sole trigger/response to cause the civil war/revolution. it was just the media story to hide the true causes

the tea party was october-dec 73.... where by they dunked the tea in december 73 after giving the captain a month..
a whole year later of nothing. no gunshots no battles no wars...
(thus non event)

then congress was formed and a petition was sent. sept 74
thats when the real drama unfolded. and within 5 months. britain backed down feb 75
when britain sent out the conciliatory resolution as a display of repealing the old acts

so if you want to play around and think that tealeaf soaking of 73 causes wars in 75.. you are reading the wrong stories

you are forgetting alot of detail in between

its a nice story to tell the kids '100 americans dunked tea in the sea and freed america'
but thats BS
look at the resolutions, petitions, formal representatives of legal matters and acts that occured behind the headlines
8252  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Legal tender definition on: June 10, 2021, 05:08:10 PM
edit:
ok after reading the posts below. i withdraw my original post thinking it was just about remittance.
(bad intel from people in el salvador a week ago thinking its just a remittance gimmick)

alot has changed in the last 2 days. it seems el salvador is really going full on bitcoin train.
definitely gonna book some vacation time and go there and buy some property now

8253  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Research topics in Bitcoin on: June 10, 2021, 04:51:47 PM
the reason to look into the network topology suggestion i made is just that

if idiots start running their branded full node in a less than full node option.
whether it be prunned or the gimmick 'stateless' or lite. then they are no longer blockchain seeders. but just leachers

what you then find is true full nodes dont want to be direct peers to leachers as its not helping themselves or others in the true decentraled network

if you want 8 connections to peers to have a safe varied/random observation of incoming blocks/transactions. you will not want to use up one of those limited resource peer connections on a leacher that doesnt relay.

thus why it says most cases of spv,lite.prunned."stateless" end up needing to self run a bridge node to be the seeder for the network and a translator. just to stay on the network.
or what actually happens is these less than full nodes end up using a commercial centralised service as their bridge.

..
there is alot of game theory and scenarios involved when you understand the network layout.
which does help to not only understand the network.. but also the users, the diversity, the power plays, and the challenges to offering different services and if differing services would ultimately help or mess with the network

in the case of utreexo full node users wont want to downgrade their node to a leacher wallet. otherwise there was no point in being a full node in the first place.
also full node users wont want to 'bridge' themselves to these downgraded leacher wallets

thus the NEED of utreexo to be added into a full node becomes less of a requirement. and more of a 'just make your own wallet software that API calls data from a proper node

.
in short utreexo wallets sit at the edges of the network. the bottom layer. sitting along side cell phone lite wallets
8254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 10, 2021, 04:41:32 PM
whats next..
badecker buys a placard and stores it in his basement
'i protested' [never left basement]
8255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 10, 2021, 12:17:58 PM
sorry folks about badeckers usual trolling.
if only politicians were easy to rebutt

anyways
back to the subject.
if you wipe away all the media printed social drama of protests. and actually look into the big details of lobbying, petitions, lawsuits and even political bribes. you start to realise that society only changes with these mentioned things and not due to placards and picnics

so people need to actually start using these methods and not just waste time organising picnics/chants
8256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 10, 2021, 11:51:40 AM
your grammatical knitpick would have been more noted if you tried to distance yourself from the 'we' by saying you didnt mean yourself you meant US/humans in general

but you decided to embarrass yourself by trying to change your sentence to make it sound like your saying 'we got the vaccine' instead of 'we got vaccinated'
however even if you were to say 'we got the vaccine' the implication/meaning still ends up being the same thing
because when i say i 'got the vaccine'. i dont mean they handed me a vial i store in my fridge. i mean i was vaccinated
8257  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As a Chinese, I want to talk about China's ban on cryptocurrency on: June 10, 2021, 08:54:46 AM
China’s partner, El Salvador, has announced that Bitcoin is their legal tender. Since China and El Salvador are in partnership, China has to recognize Bitcoin, otherwise it is contradictory.

elsalvador still uses the dollar

however instead of using western union to transfer:
US -> $-> WU database -> $ -> el salv
it has allowed
US -> $ ->btc -> $->el salv

where by the $->el salv portion is allowing remittance businesses in el salvador to be allowed to convert btc to dollar in el savador domestically

its not where el salvador no longer accepts dollars and only trades in bitcoin to buy bread fruit and tins of beans
8258  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Massive drop in Hashrate (50%) ~100 ExH/S on: June 10, 2021, 08:19:25 AM
Under the Chinese government's crackdown on Bitcoin mining farms, the Bitcoin mining hash rate is decreasing.

china announced a crackdown of mining farms in coal power plant regions
since 2014 mining farms have never set up farms in those locations.
they had already decided to set up in regions of renewable and enjoy special electric price contracts in those regions because of renewables.
thus. non-big-deal

most of the hashrate volatility is hardware upgrading and also america not mining because the price is sub $35k so its not profitable to mine IN AMERICA

hense the slushpool lack of US block solves when price was under $35k
8259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When will the vaccination end? on: June 09, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
the vaccination ends at the tip of the needle
8260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why revolutions and movements fail at their desired outcome on: June 09, 2021, 11:13:53 PM
^^^ We got Covid and the vaxx from Fauci through some roundabout method like this.
Cool

you got covid and the vaxx

so you got vaccinated after all... well thanks for that admission.
now you can get on with your life and stop pretending your an anti vaxxer
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