deities and gods did not write scripture

humans did.. these humans pretended to be messiah.. messengers. or witnesses..

most of the messages were not 'gods speach' but instead laws and moral rules to keep the population tame and civilised where the rules of kingdoms pretended to have got messages from a being no one has ever seen so that any blame can be pointed to the sky and not at the messenger
even though the messenger is actually the creator of the rules of ancient law

governments do it now. senators make laws by their individual votes.. but when questioning. no single senator can be blamed because the entity 'senate' created the law.

shows she has a good immune system
those that react with a longer delay. like getting a fever on day 3 means their immune system is not good

so take some positives. her immune system is very good and reactive. and settled down quickly after
what you dont want is a delayed reaction and a prolonged effect

so be happy your mom is good

but anyways with the odds of a death being 1/140k-1/2.5m from a vaccine infection..
thats alot better then
a 4/1000 death risk from covid(50-64)
a 13/1000 death risk from covid(65-74)
a 32/1000 death risk from covid(75-84)
a 87/1000 death risk from covid(85+)

~10,000x-100,000x better having the vaccine than having covid

in the 3-6 ,months of mid(1k) and high(20k) participation
they did not have any amounts of blood clots outside/above the norm unvaccinated populous had
it was only a couple cases out of the 20k

in the UK vaccines there were given out to 18million, only had 30 blood clot issues. and only 7 resulting deaths
cases 1/600,000     death: 1/2.75mill

in denmark vaccines there were given out to 140,000, only 2 blood clot issues. and only 1 resulting death
cases 1/70,000    death 1/140,000

the thing to learn here..

many idiotic conspiracy theorists claim that vaccine studies dont check care or monitor.. and yea by seeing these results in public shows they do check monitor and care
yep they idiots think there is a massive coverup and no transparency... and yet these numbers are public thus debunking them

its funny.. if they didnt check with just a few dozen cases.. or if they did check.. conspiracy idiots would be outraged both times

now your making up numbers because 99.9999% of the world think your a god..
oh wait they thought you were a dog. because all you do is bark up the wrong tree and lick ass

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death reporting is very accurate because if there lacked death reports. then there would be many missing people reports instead.. reality is when reported dead they actually do die..
reality is there are not 297000 bodies uncounted somewhere

if people were to mine it..

the cheapest mining is china/iceland  mining farms which can mine for $21k/btc
the most expensive country to mine is germany home hobby mining which is upto $72k/btc

so the window of value is $21k-$72k
yep right now germany wont want to mine because they can buy it at ~$60k meaning they save money by just buying instead of mining.
china.iceland are mining and selling so they wont be buying because they can mine it cheaper


if the price spiked above $72k then its a bubble as there is no reason at all in any way to sustain it above $72k
no one sees it as sustainable above $72k right now so no one but foolish drama speculators would.. which would then correct

bubbles do not mean its pricing something of no value. it means its over pricing excessively something of lower value

even today. tulips are being bought and sold. go visit a garden store/centre
tulips are still of value.. but just no longer excessively priced

2018's $20k was above the value window. so it did not sustain. that 2018's $20k was a temporary bubble

metal scrap mining is not worth it
if you could carry £120 with your own arms great.. .. but its a tonne so no chance of that. it requires transport.
it requires storage.. all of this costs money.
if you want to store £45k of iron. that means you have to transport and store 375 tonnes
your not gong to be able to store 375tonnes in a spare bedroom..

also it will take many many many hours to rip apart microwaves and other scrap to get to the good stuff.
even africa with a low wage of under £1 an hour with peopleliving in shanty towns cant get scrap without cutting a few health and safety requirements

so goodluck trying to cover your costs in a proper lifestyle of rent and bills
goodluck covering them costs

maybe just watch steptoe and son. and enjoy watching. not pretending you can do it. or move to africa and clog up your lungs to burn out the material you want. atleast there the government wont chase after you for chemical waste. and no one will request expensive licences and health and safety requirements

but in the real world.. scrap metal is not cheap to process.. and then ask yourself why they prefer to ship it to africa rather then salvage it locally.. there is a big reason.

oh and last thing. if ou are in your 70's and spent the last 20 years salvaging scrap and you have only achieved 'several £1ks' then in them 20 years. you have only made enough for 1 years retirement income.

maybe try something that can make you 20times that to atleast break even

the Vaers only accounts for 10% .. is an estimate that only the serious stuff gets reported because not many people are cry babies about the small stuff

when it comes to hospitalisations and deaths those numbers are accurate

its the small stuff where some just feel they might cry like a baby to a family visit/call to enquire some advice
whereby the small stuff might be 10x more but just not reported(sought medical help) because 90% are not cry babies


in short. hospitalisation/death is 99% accurate.. pain in the arm. rash on the arm 10%

looking at the ALL deaths.. there is definitely not a 200k increase of excess deaths where it cant be explained by causes

well where did the french franc the spanish peseta. german d-mark al disapear

.. i will say there will be multiple fiats around the world. but as for which fiat is deemed the international reserve or the counter balance of all fiats.. well thats got more to do with which country is regulating international trade more so than which currency is favourble

bitcoin wont become the fiat counterbalance of international fiats. as its not able to be controlled by the regulating country.

bitcoin is a alternative safe haven separate from fiat and should always be considered an alternative and not a replacement

dreams of bitcoin defeating governments are for the fantasy section

if gold could be mined in someones back yard with just a spoon and a coffee filter ($2/ounce) the gold prices would not maintain at $1800.. people would sell it down to something like $6

yep with mining costs being say $900+ 'value' and then some speculative overpricing of an extra <100% brings gold to its 'price'


with bitcoin. in germany with $0.38/kwh electric it cost $72k to mine bitcoin. so if they can buy it cheaper than they can mine it for.. they will
and if china with $0.04/kwh electric it cost $21k to mine bitcoin. so if they can mine and then sell for higher.. they will*

its this value meter $21k-$72k that is the window of the bottom limit people wont dare sell below and the upper limit people wont dare buy above

yes america has a ~cost of $33k per btc uk has a $42k per btc
meaning if the price moved down below $42k UK miners will slow down on mining and go on a buying frenzy
meaning if the price moved down below $33k US miners will slow down on mining and go on a buying frenzy
 as its far cheaper to buy it than mine it

these factors are all at play in the background giving bitcoin some background underlying value..
20% strong at ~$37k 50% strong at $27k and 98% strong at $21k**

yes the prices above $37k can feel speculative/volatile and full of just pure emotion trading. but there is actually underlying value at play hidden below

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so play the gold backyard spoon or excavator game
if gold cost $900 because it requires expensive excavators and diesel to mine. is golds supply value 0 or somewhere above $900

yes the speculative 'bubble' is whatever is above $900 where a 2x might seem like a ready to burst bubble thats not sustainable where as a 30% profit is reasonable and of accepted value

so if you live in america knowing you could mine for $33k a coin.. or for a little extra you can just buy it and not have the hassle of setting up hardware and facilities and paying bills continuously.. how much premium would you consider as value and worth paying for a btc

*(mining hardware in the 165exa range is a $15k cost (9 month ROI) plus $1.5k per 1cent electric(i done the complicated maths then simplified it for this demo))
** based on mining demographics and electric prices (china33%US21%russia6%india6%japan6%...)

from a cost-profit numbering where least profit is first and most profit is last

home
office
retail
campsite land
carehome
prison

most to least maintenance
prison
carehome
office
retail
campsite land
home

room for expansion/multiplier.. least to most
home
retail
office
prison
carehome
campsite land

vulnerable??
its been 12 years where an address has exposed its publickey a few times
there is 18coins $1.08mill up for grabs... but so far no one has managed to take it

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S

seems secure to me

anyone ever think that the actual victim two years ago is not this newbie on this forum this week

anyone ever thought that this weeks scammer found a video of someone else being a victim to phishing and this current scammer just borrowed the other persons video. and done a screen shot of the video and just whited out the borders to make it not look like it was a screencap of the video..

all done hoping people will donate to his address out of sympathy.

call me a cynic but i smell alot of rotten fish in regards to this OP
he has definitely screen-capped a shot of a 2 year old video. and offered no evidence or detail outside of the video

.. yep OP.. your screencap was a bad edit of the video.. too obvious
(normal people would not just use pre existing public info as proof.. they would use fresh pics)
(screen capping a video and editing a frame is more trouble and more hassle than just taking a pic fresh)

actually.. someone with 12k coins wanted to merge a single coin and put all back as 'change' in their same address
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b8808c3be4c77edaf448edfe3c7c6c0bfc955fe5f64ad0547e180235d6884025

coin movements onchain do not show whats happening on market orderlines

a better metric is to look at how many coins are in known exchange cold wallets and watch if they increase or decrease if your looking for a 'exchange supply'..its stil not accurate but more helpful that the chart OP was using

EG (76k coins moved between april 3rd-4th)(and yet no one screamed out drama then)

guys the topic creator has a known presence in the forum for trying to poke

he purposefully found a 8 year old reddit post to set a debate
key facts are in 2013 the only exchanges were btc-e, bitstamp, mtgox. and mtgox was going through its lock-in and close down drama

so yea in 2021 context it looks like the topic is about wallstreet damning bitcoin. but in context of 2013 if someone that only knows about bitcoin via news of mtgox drama

most of the comments from no-coiners are about price and exchange drama.. nothing at all to do with the understanding of bitcoin itself. heck even the topic creator wants to spin it into a price discussion. which makes him no better than no-coiners

yet out of 500k uk severe covid sufferers needing hospital care
44k did not get any.
380k of that got hospital care survived because of it
86k died even with care

yep the 44k(3rd of all deaths) frail deemed as unlikely to survive anyway were left to just expire. if these conspiracy sites had any morals they would be fighting battles about the medical system neglecting 8.8% of severe covid people by not offering everyone a chance to survive.

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also
if a 10c mask can reduce the risk of later hospitalisation. a moral person would be happy about it

but nah. the conspiracy sites want to pretend they are against the medical system and pharma. whilst the conspiracy cultists actually offer their own pharma supplied sub-par treatments and claiming the sub-par treatments are the immortal herbal remedy everyone should buy. at more then 10c a day

"how high must the price go"  (facepalm)

its not the price that sets it as being a good store of value
its the utility of being a store of value that makes it a good store of value

if it costs $5+ to make a transaction..average joe wont will like using it as a store of value for part of their wage
even if it has a 'store of value' status
yep even if gold is a store of value. if people are going to be charged $5 just to get hold of gold above its price. they are not going to want to handle it any any daily/weekly income amount

you might find institutions hoarding large amounts to dilute the fee down to sub percentages. but normal average joe people wont bother with it if it costs them $5 to swap ownership of say $100 amounts.
its not about waiting for a market price to declare 'store of value'
its about the trust/confidence and the underlying value(not market price) and the cost of utility that decides if something is a viable store of value

anyone asking "how high must the price go to" is very much a person that is playing the highschool economics tulip game and not understanding the underlying utility that creates true 'store of value' status.. because their mindset is purely on price spikes and bubbles and ATH's
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i am pre-empting the usual rebuttal of advertising another network as the solution to the fee problem
anyone thinking that co-signing token payments are 'sovereign' needs to learn what sovereign means and how co-signing tokens is not anything like sovereign utility

no.. locking up gold to play with digital certificates/bonds/promissory notes is not the same as owning gold
no.. locking up btc to play with millisat htlc is not the same as owning btc

bitcoin can become a good store of value when it keeps a good underlying support no one wants to sell below and where it can be moved/transacted without huge fee's

at the moment its not a average joe/unbanked store of value. but a institutional reserve store of value.

badecker is so ignorant of technology and science. that he would easily be fooled into believing that planes are metal birds made by god. used to prey on humans and try eating hundreds of humans per flight via proof that hundreds of people are in a planes 'belly' each flight

prions are not made simply if something designed for arm muscle gets into brain tissue.

for the multiple time prions are not caused by a first generation dna. rna or mrna

prions occur naturally from a dna/rna that has multiplied soo many times that it has a misfold at some point

mrna does not have the replication aspect to actually replicate to even be able to mutate/misfold
mrna whether in the arm or brain does the same function. if thats a function the tissue type does not recognise. its ignored and just gets broken down into cell waste
its not going to do something completely different

mrna vaccines do not even have the code base to 'talk to' the cells RNA and change the cells rna or dna
the mrna vaccine code only contains a protein making aspect.. totally not and totally separate from mutating rna/dna.

its not going to replicate. its not going to spread. its not going to replicate its not going to mutate

once you realise the many sections of rna and what is or isnt included in a mrna vaccine. then and only then you can pretend you have learned something

so here is a challenge for you
learn about a topic first. from source specialist experts. but not from conspiracy paid speakers with no hands on first person experience. do the research first. and then form an opinion.. do not form a fantasy opinion and then find any random incorrect piece of info that matches your fantasy

so again make it clear. do your research then post..
dont post something then avoid research

the graph is self explanitory..

in 2010.. bitcoin was only 1 year old. so ofcourse 100% of people only held for a year..
it was IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to have held coins for 2years+ or 5years+...

in 2014 it was only 5 years old. so ofcourse in 2013 NO ONE held for 5+years.

what you need to realise is the now on year 12. the amount of 5+ year coins is mostly lost' forgotten coins which are not really part of active circulation. most of the coins will never move every again. so that 5+ year allowment can be ignored.

when looking at the 1-3month and the 2-4 years they can be shown as the short/longterm plots.

yes i know i personally have coins that have not moved in 5+ years but i still have the keys and can move them. so its a small hypocrite to declare my coins as lost/forgotton. but when you look at the 1mill coins that are satoshi stash. thats 5% of all coins that wont be moving.
there are many other coins that were lost/forgotten in the 2009-2013 era too

so dont put much weight into the 5+year coin amounts. as most wont ever move.

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if you plot out the coins in say 2013 and look at the 1-3 month vs 2-4year
and then plot out the coin in say 2020 and look at the 1-3month vs 2-4 years

then you will have better scope to make better judgement of sentiment of long vs shortterm holders

but the graph as a whole is misrepresenting it as you have to be aware that in 2013 no one could have held coins for 5+ years even if they wanted to

lets see if there is more simply math to work out electric consumption

155exa hash in february(average)

outdated oldschool tech
asics:S9  hashrate: 14th  wattage:1.3kwh
=11071429 asics
=14,392,857kw/h

current tech
asics:s19 hashrate 95th  wattage:3.25kwh
=1,631,579 asics
=5,302,631kw/h

next gen tech
asics:S19pro  hashrate: 110th  wattage:1.3kwh
=1409091 asics
=4,579,545.kw/h

seems easier math then what BurtW keeps promoting

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soo lets dollarise it -with burtW $0.03 electric cost
s9: kwh*0.03 =$575,714.28
/6block/6.25coin=$15,352.38 per btc

s19: kwh*0.03=$159,078.93
/6block/6.25=$4,242.10 per btc

s19pro: kwh*0.03=$137386.35
/6block/6.25=$3,663.63 per btc

now wasnt that easy

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these numbers are about the energy power consumption amount. .. but do not include the hardware ROI costs