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781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi unmasked? on: December 04, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Those guys in the video are just a bunch of scammers with no credibility in front of anybody with half a brain.
782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2013, 10:34:02 PM
I love how nothing is considered off topic in this thread, from random trolling to serious debate, there are times in which "wall observing" is just noise

Cheesy
783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: December 04, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
Ah, of course thanks Satoshi and community, but I am still here =) Next entering point for me is in 2016-2017 year.

Agree completely on this, fits with my timeframe projections as well.

All of these epic, once-in-a-lifetime super-bubbles (stocks, bonds, housing, crypto-currency, and more) will ultimately collapse. Comparing now to the end of the roaring 20s doesn't do today justice... you'd have to go all the way back to the South Sea bubble to find comparable financial psychology.

Nothing compared to Bitcoin. The price of stocks of the South Sea Company started at roughly 100 GBP - the peak was 1.000 GBP. A ten-fold increase from 1719 to 1720.

We just had a ten-fold increase in BTC only in the last month. There's has been NOTHING comparable to Bitcoin in history.
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 04, 2013, 11:51:44 AM
This is becoming a big problem.  Buyers get frustrated by sending 8 e-mails and getting no answer.  We need a rule which clears the books of orders which are not valid/active.  

RULE:  When your order is part of a crossed book - and more than 3 days old - it gets removed.  Both on the buy side - and the sell side.  If a user doesn't like that his order was removed, he only needs to renew it on the 4th day to completely restore his offer.  No problem.  Much cleaner book.  Efficiency is restored as buyer and seller will only be seeking a deal on real active offers.

Yes, this indeed is a problem, the overlap really got out of hands recently.

pKnowles, I like your suggestion, this could be a good solution. Before implementing this I'd like to think a little more about it, I will post an update soon.
If anyone has a better solution to this problem, please let me know.

I have to say that as a seller I had the same problem with buyers. While I honored the only sell I've been involved in, despite of the price going up during the sale, when the price went down because of the reddit attack I tried to sell MSC sending PM to at least 5 buyers and I got no answer at all... Until 5 days passed and the price went up again - then the sellers replied me if I was still willing to sell 20% below the market price... That's lame. Some rule should apply.
785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2013, 11:49:55 PM
The best course of action for the guy is to extort Bitcoins from you guys on a bitcoin related tor site by means of a signed message saying: Send me more coins or I will dump. Grin

This almost makes me send a Satoshi with the message: "Dump Moth*** , Dump If you have the balls"

Do it:)

Now seriously: if he wants to dump, he still needs to do it in an orderly fashion. In summer 2011 somebody dumped hundred of k's of BTC and took the price to $0.01 (a forum user bought like 270k BTC for $3k), and Gox just halted trading and "rolled back". If something like that happens (hundred of k's dumped) the exchange would just stop the activity as they would assume that something fishy is going on.
786  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of bitcoin wealth by owner on: December 03, 2013, 08:53:16 PM
Bitcoin's only intrinsic value is confidence. So "weak hands" will mean strong hands, and vice versa at some point in the future if I am correct.

The blockchain and it's many revolutionary uses (among which the possibility to transfer value in a trust less and decentralized fashion) gives Bitcoin a very definite, "real world" intrinsic value. The blockchain has multiple uses that have the potential to become more important than those of gold.

I kinda hoped you already understood that.
787  Economy / Speculation / Re: There is already 1000 Bitcoin Millionaires in the world - effects on price on: December 03, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
Only 1000 persons with 1000 coins or more? I think that in the 1k range we have more than that, I'd say at least 2000 persons. Just remember that 1000 coins just costed $12.000 in January 2013.
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: December 03, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
3) the operator of sheep market was an amateur. He has been doxed. Probably he will end up behind bars soon, and in any case he will have a hard time cashing out the coins. Look at how he is desperately trying to launder them: it's pathetic and amateurish, you just cannot launder 100k coins as he is trying to do because there aren't another 100k from other users to mix you coins with. Either he cashes out in small chunks from localbitcoins, either he is caught very soon.

What if he boldly sell them on an exchange? Who's gonna stop it? Who will sue him?
And why should he be in any hurry to dump?

Nobody will sue them, LE will arrest him with similar charges as per DPR. They already have its full dox.

If he boldly sell the coins on an exchange he will get caught immediately after.. All kinds of AML/KYC procedures are triggered at both the exchange and bank level when somebody tryies to cash out dozens of millions quickly. Bitcoin liquidity is still a joke.

Secondly, just look at the guys Facebook and at the amateurish mistakes he made leading to his dox. Look at how ridiculously badly coded was the SMP. And finally, amuse yourself watching how the guy is desperately trying to tumble the coins, failing hard because he is anxiously trying to tumble all of them instead of leaving the big stash in a few addresses and tumbling just a few hundreds every day (the only way to effectively launder such an amount). He is mixing his own coins over and over, that is very telling - he is an amateur and he is anxious.
789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: December 03, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/

96000 btc stolen =) Good luck bulls

At least 96k. There are other suspicious addresses (many of them), but seems highly unlikely that that market could have had such a massive volume (+200k coins), especially considering that SR had only 27k in users funds when it was shut down. Nevertheless:

1) after the media attention to SR the number of black market usets is growing exponentially. BMR is closing because it cannot handle the amount of traffic, in fact there are real concerns about Tor not being able to scale in order to accommodate services with such a huge amount of users.

2) the genie is out of the bottle. Some thought that after SR the "black market use" of Bitcoin was going to disappear. They were delusional. In fact, smart contracts and other applications of the block chains are a killer app for the black market. This is growing, day by day. The insane amount of BTC stolen by such an amateur operation as sheep market is very telling. Compare that to the amount of coins stolen from inputs.io or GLBS. Probably not even Gox is holding 100k BTC of it's users at this moment. Sheep market did.

3) the operator of sheep market was an amateur. He has been doxed. Probably he will end up behind bars soon, and in any case he will have a hard time cashing out the coins. Look at how he is desperately trying to launder them: it's pathetic and amateurish, you just cannot launder 100k coins as he is trying to do because there aren't another 100k from other users to mix you coins with. Either he cashes out in small chunks from localbitcoins, either he is caught very soon.
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 03, 2013, 02:40:04 PM
Please add a bid to the order book for 100 MSC @ 0.19 BTC
Bid?? They have cheaper sells atm I think..

Sorry, it was a typo - I edited the post, I'm willing to place an ask
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 03, 2013, 02:27:00 PM
Please add an ask to the order book for 100 MSC @ 0.19 BTC
792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2013, 11:23:36 AM
Sheep marketplace turned out to be a scam, operator is now desperately tumbling at least 96k BTC.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rvlft/i_just_chased_him_through_a_bitcoin_tumbler_and/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1ru5ir/founda_wallet_containing_98million_worth_of_coins/

793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2013, 11:44:10 AM
A little reminder to all the newcomers about what happens when you sell on weekends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4axmD2YvPnA

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 30, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
Why didn't BTC rose $400 in two days? am I supposed to wait to become rich??? what is this!?!? *outraged*

This just means that the top is not yet around the corner. The faster it grows, the sooner it crashes.
795  Economy / Economics / Re: (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan on: November 29, 2013, 12:18:59 PM
Saving is for suckers.
Buy at 10$ and sell for 1000$ in under a year.

Yep, tell that to those who bought for $0.05 in July 2010 and then sold at $20 in Summer 2011, "bringing home" a profit of 1-2 million $. Now they would have close to $100MM.

Selling most of your coins is for suckers.
796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2013, 10:13:55 AM
There is also the chance they bought their own walls to induce momentum.

Anyone with more bitcoins than 1,000 is cautious of the rise, and scheming to keep the price in check to solidify their own position in the real world. (Anyone with <1,000 coins does not have walls)

This is funny. When I started to trade actively (January this year) a "wall" was +20k coins. Now 500 coins is considered a "wall". When and if we hit 5 figures, 50 BTC will be considered a "wall". Funny indeed Smiley
797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2013, 11:53:18 PM
I think this is a hookup, cash for everyone, coins for everyone, happy thanksgiving ??

No. If somebody wins somebody has to lose.
798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Can you see the headlines

"Bitcoins worth more than GOLD!"

Eek!

What does Peter Schiff say?  Grin

Expect another big stream of headlines as BTC blasts through gold's price.

After the one ounce of gold mark, we'll have to look at the 1kg mark  Grin

I suck at math, how much is 1kg of GOLD ?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

$40k
799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: November 28, 2013, 04:38:17 PM
If we are the new wealthy elite we will be able to find all of the legal loop holes necessary to pay as little tax as possible.   Grin



Good christians do not do that Cheesy
800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
WoW, german radio (SWR3) bashing bitcoin:


- Not legitimate
- Not backed by anything
- Could be gone in a year
- Do not invest into Btc
- Keep your children away from it!!

Good. This is bullish.

"Be greedy when others are fearful"...
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