osensei already quoted my response - you can read the discussion on that thread for more details as to why it's pointless. We will sort out Tor connectivity for MyMonero, but an SSL cert is a waste of effort.

Hilariously, Blockchain.info are only *now* turning on HSTS and similar, which should have been on from the get-go.

If you look at the Bytecoin source code from the beginning it said "Copyright (c) 2012-2013 The Cryptonote developers". Here is an example from the May 4th 2014 initial commit - https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/blob/296ae46ed8f8f6e5f986f978febad302e3df231a/src/cryptonote_config.h#L1

The point at which they changed it to say "Bytecoin developers" was August 13th, because even the previous commit (June 29th) still said "Cryptonote developers" on every file - https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/blob/209e2356f54c5f93b8f6d6cf7810693e60b45a9e/src/cryptonote_core/tx_pool.cpp

The best thing for you to do is checkout the source code at that June 29th commit and see if they attribute anything to the Bytecoin developers. You will see they do not.

With regards to them being the same people, there used to be a topic on the CryptoNote forum called "Who Are You?" that they've since deleted (you can see it on archive.org as the fourth post down on the Philosophy sub-forum). Thankfully, Rias (a Bytecoin shill) wrote up a little FAQ where he referenced that deleted thread in answering a question -

Do you like his personality from before or after the account was sold to the current owner that launched QuazarCoin? Because clearly there are two different personalities and two different people.

You misunderstand the difference between creating a new anonymous account and purchasing old accounts in order to look legit. The one action is perfectly legitimate, and there are several cryptocurrencies where that is the case. The other is borderline fraud.


The CryptoNote developers did the work, NOT the Bytecoin developers. You're confused again.

Additionally, the CryptoNote developers developed the reference code precisely so that projects like Monero can be built using it: "It is a purely technological project which serves to enhance the cryptocurrencies ecosystem."

The Bytecoin developers slapped some lipstick on that and tried to get the community to kiss it, but the community rejected them. That does not diminish the hard work that the CryptoNote developers and academics have put into the original reference material.

Your continued implication that the Bytecoin developers were responsible for a codebase that is clearly marked as having been developed by the CryptoNote developers is the only thing happening that is blatantly immoral.

Well, that and the ongoing CryptoNote scams.

I don't know where you get your facts from, but this stuff is well documented on the forum. In fact, the OP of this thread has given us all the info to explain things -


And whilst it's very cute that you call him "Mr Seis", I think you missed the paragraph in the OP that exposed the account as being a bought  account -


If you need any assistance or help understanding these two paragraphs and figuring out that OracionSeis is a scam account and QuazarCoin a scam coin please don't hesitate to ask and I'll try walk you through it in more detail.

Lrn2sarcasm plx

You do realise that the CryptoNote developers did all the work, right? Which is why the original Bytecoin source says "Copyright the CryptoNote developers". More recently they changed the license and the copyright, but that doesn't change the fact that the Bytecoin developers just slapped a name on the CryptoNote developer's hard work, ghostmined 82%, and then tried to sell it as a fait accompli. There's even a thread on the CryptoNote forum somewhere where they mention the recent (at that stage) rift between themselves and the Bytecoin developers, I would imagine solely because the Bytecoin developers did nothing more than "copy, change some variables, make up a bitcointalk page (with their lies) and launch the coin".

Well that's really disrespectful to the developers that made those clones. You didn't even acknowledge all the effort and hard work they put into it. How dare you, sir!

/hypocrisy

You must be new around here.

You'll find that we have a very low tolerance for scams, even the ones that have a lot of work put into them. In fact, the best scams normally have tremendous effort put in making them appear legit, and when those with even a modicum of technical skill uncover the truth they show no mercy. That in and of itself does not denigrate or reduce the effort the scammers have put in to their elaborate scam, and I noticed the OP indicated the technical merits of the CryptoNote project.

I'd also like to point out that the Monero core team do not go around "attacking other coins", although we are all known in the cryptocurrency community and will definitely engage in vigorous debate and / or correct false or twisted information. We are all our own persons and entitled to be as opinionated or neutral as we wish, and unless someone has a factual disagreement with our opinion, it is merely us participating in an open and opinionated debate.

Hi guys - just a quick update, we had the Missive up earlier on forum.monero.cc, but pulled it down because of a breaking bug in the Windows 0.8.8.5 builds (OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD are all fine). We're diagnosing and fixing, and will be putting it back up as soon as it's fixed:)

A couple of corrections, if you will. Firstly, Risto has definitely invested a lot of time, money, and energy in Monero and related services. However, at this stage the funding is heavily skewed. At this stage our donations (including those from Risto) cover about 18% of our costs, the remaining 82% are covered by the core team. So I'd say that Monero is "mainly funded" (to the tune of 80+%) by the Monero Core Team.

I agree with most of your points, except that I do think that we're at a stage where we understand the code significantly more than before. When we took over the codebase there were 68 518 lines of code. We've since added 63 790 lines, so I think it's safe to say that we've done a significant level of work and acquired a deep understanding of the code.

I'd like to officially state, for and on behalf to the Monero core team, that this is the biggest load of rubbish we've ever read.

We have no deal with BCX, nor have we ever had a deal with him. In fact, our many attempts at engaging him have come up empty.

We also have not ever, and will not ever, "offer a proposition for DRK" to BCX or any other trolls. What an absurd notion, we're not even in "competition" with Darkcoin, much less able to waste money on a petty spat.

Good catch, I'll fix it shortly:)

Right now there isn't interioerability between simplewallet and MyMonero. We will be providing that capability later on.

No that's spot on. LMDB is fast, lightweight, and proven (it's used in OpenLDAP). That doesn't mean it's the only solution, and we WANT to have multiple available database implementations so that users can choose a best-fit with a reasonable default.

Baby steps:)

Physical or virtual? During a sync from scratch lmdb can request as much as 8gb, but it's all virtual. I've seen well under 100mb of physical RAM in use once it's synced up.

Hi guys - just to add that I have had really crummy Internet connectivity (literally been in the desert;) so I wasn't able to update this.

We are going to skip this week's Missive and go over to next week's on Monday, as we're struggling with nagging Windows build issues for 0.8.8.5.

Hah - you and me both!

Internet has been a bit spotty whilst I've been travelling, but we are busy finalising the Missive and will push it out as soon as the new Monero builds are done with testing, so within the next 12 hours at the most;)

Apologies guys - I fell asleep last night as I was about to post it (product of jet lag). I'm at the airport in Dubai, and as soon as I've managed to sit down and pull my laptop out I'll post it.