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841  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Theymos: What the fuck is up with BFL and TradeFortress? on: May 20, 2013, 07:31:15 PM
Most scams derive from the stupidity of the victim, does that make it legitimate practice to "prank" or "teach" the (naive or inexperienced) stupid person a lesson?
I can't tell if you read what I said or not, but you realize that was also my point? What I did was stupid and I'm not interested in every doing something like that again. I learned a lesson. The point of this thread is, "is TradeFortress going to learn his?" and "Is Theymos going to pick and choose when to have standards for bans and scammer tags?"

On a slightly unrelated note, I am glad I did not accept those ASIC shares now as it is not good business to involve yourself with people whol like to fuck about with your money.
Not sure what to say to this as I think it was said in misunderstanding of what is going on..
842  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Discuss btc with live person thru Skype on: May 20, 2013, 06:43:42 PM
My other account is hero member.   Undecided

No worries I'll start testing with some friends.

What's your other account? (That would help people know if they're wasting their time or not). For example, if you were "dank", then people probably would call you on Skype en masse, but for an entirely different reason.
843  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: stuff heard at bitcoin2013 on: May 20, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
Did anyone at the conference say "Buttcoins"?
844  Economy / Services / Re: What business do you guys recommend? on: May 20, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
You miss the point, programming is done uniquely by each and every one of us. There's basically no limitations.
Oh yeah, there are people who offer the same old boring stuff, eg. make me a Bitcoin converter.
I'm talking about something unique, something different, otherwise there is no point.
Although, if you want to run this sort of business, you need to learn for a long time, it does eventually pay off.

The point? The point is that there are a ton of programmers and "programmers" offering their services. Basic supply and demand states that OP should try and start something that isn't a programmer offering their services, since there's already a huge supply on that front.

Unless, of course, there's some kind of creative angle to be had by applying programming skills.

I'm actually having a fuckload of a hard time finding anyone with any skill in node.js.
845  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Discuss btc with live person thru Skype on: May 20, 2013, 06:32:02 PM
Maybe it would help (just a bit) if people actually knew that you weren't just a 12 year old claiming to know something about bitcoin. Right off the bat having a newbie account makes one suspect "not a veteran".

Just sayin'.
846  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [2] countdown! on: May 20, 2013, 06:28:57 PM
Just got 2 units delivered.  Opening boxes now.


Congrats man!!



Hmm...man...







Okay, I guess with a haircut anything's possible. I dub thee, Milo bitcoin.

847  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whose face would you like to see on a 1BTC Coin? on: May 20, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
Nyan-Cat is the clear winner here.



Gotta post the video too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5e4fs96q4
848  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [2] countdown! on: May 20, 2013, 06:08:47 PM
Just got 2 units delivered.  Opening boxes now.

Congrats Milly! I demand an animated cartoon unwrapping video featuring you.
849  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinGator on: May 20, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
Welcome! That business model sounds like a wonderful one where lots of people will set themselves up for having their money reversed back into your account up to 1 year later! Count me out.

Good luck!
850  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Theymos: What the fuck is up with BFL and TradeFortress? on: May 20, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
This entire debate is the same as my Pirate bet where I didn't ask for escrow (because I was trying to prove a point about making bets without escrow and trusting strangers on the internet). I never accepted a penny from anyone and I still got instant scammer tagged and was held to actually paying people the balances of my prank.

The general consensus was that I "scammed expected value" or some whatnot. Despite feeling awful for others having made ignorant financial decisions based on that bet and having learned my lessons, you'd think this community would have learned it's lesson too. Instead, here we are again, except this time it seems Theymos is waiting on something (I'm honestly not sure what that is). I don't know what he's waiting on for BFL either.


Bottom line for community (a lesson I learned the hard way): Don't fuck with other people's money to "teach them lessons", despite your passionate crusade against stupidity.

Bottom line for mods: Stop having double standards for everything that happens on the forums. It's either okay to scam expected value (cheating), or it's not. Pick one and stick with it. </end thread>
851  Economy / Goods / Re: Possible Airplane for Sale ~1500 BTC = Very Nice Single Engine 4 Seat Bo on: May 20, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
Also isnt the point of Bitcoins to keep it private?

Everyone uses bitcoins for different reasons. I don't think the *point* of bitcoin is privacy, nor is the *point* to be able to buy drugs easier, people just use it for what they want. Personally? I use it so I can buy a plane on a forum easily without ever stepping foot on the tarmac.  Wink
852  Economy / Goods / Re: Possible Airplane for Sale ~1500 BTC = Very Nice Single Engine 4 Seat Bo on: May 20, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised due to your attempts to obfuscate (something the internet hates by nature) the very next person who gets information from you simply releases it here in this thread. I think you made too big of a deal about it and should have just kept things simple.
853  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [2] countdown! on: May 20, 2013, 05:16:55 PM
The reason nzhang has to hire a security detail is due to the perception in China that he is raking it in, not necessarily due to the fact.

In our hallway conversation with Yifu after his talk, I believe he mentioned that Batch 2 was a break even to money losing proposition (someone else who was there can confirm).  This was why the price of Batch 3 went up.  SMT lines aren't cheap.
I do not understand.   Why buy an SMT Line if you are not going to make machines anymore?   I thought Generation 2, they were just selling chips?


Maybe they're renting one.
854  Economy / Auctions / Re: SELL 5/100 of ASIC AVALON 85GHs BATCH 3 Matthew N. Wright on: May 19, 2013, 11:16:43 PM
Update:

  • gweedo opted to upgrade 2% (from 4% to 6%)
  • jski laid claim to 5% and is awaiting coinbase fund clearance

This leaves 3% left at 1.95BTC available for purchase still. 2 parties have already inquired but not sent payment.
855  Other / Off-topic / Thinking about starting a business in bitcoin? on: May 19, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
To start a business now in bitcoin, you need to be creative. To be creative, you need to remove yourself from that which dilutes your creativity (aka this forum). Take a look at other places on the internet for inspiration, focusing on places where bitcoin could actually solve a current problem or expand on an existing solution. It may take a while but sometimes those inspirations will just jump out at you even while you're walking down the street. Sometimes those aren't inspirations, but are really muggers. Either way, you'll probably lose money in the end.
856  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.2 Btc Loan on: May 19, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Newbie asking for 0.2BTC loans, newbie offering 0.2BTC loans. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208214.0
857  Economy / Auctions / Re: SELL 5/100 of ASIC AVALON 85GHs BATCH 3 Matthew N. Wright on: May 19, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
so how do we handle payments? where do I need to send?

PM the OP. Payments for your winning shares in this auction are made directly to him. He already paid me for his shares long ago. Once payment is made and confirmed, I will change his information to yours.

To change information I will need:

  • an email address you don't mind being displayed publicly in association with this purchase
  • a bitcoin address you don't mind being displayed publicly in association with payments from the ASIC mining profits

858  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] 1BTC - UK BANK TRANSFER on: May 19, 2013, 10:01:05 PM
Since I'm ignorant of the UK banking systems and such, why wouldn't just withdrawing through SEPA from Bitstamp be better? Isn't that free?
859  Economy / Auctions / Re: SELL 5/100 of ASIC AVALON 85GHs BATCH 3 Matthew N. Wright on: May 19, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
Matt, how come you are registered as untrustworthy?

Off-topic, but click the link in my signature. It should help explain that.
860  Economy / Auctions / Re: SELL 5/100 of ASIC AVALON 85GHs BATCH 3 Matthew N. Wright on: May 19, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
From the original auction:

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on April 02, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: ninjaboon on April 02, 2013, 09:11:37 PM
show us proof, like the email receipt.

Please read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163795.0

I'll share it with Tysat since he's a moderator here and he can either confirm or deny my claim of receiving one here in Korea.

I can confirm that he has an order for a batch 3 Avalon that's been paid.

No need to worry about there not being a unit.

------------------

Never has it been mentioned before that you have two units.
For me it doesn't add up, sorry.
I'm out.
Ah I remember now (on my phone or I would have checked). Tysat verified the order from Avalon. Seems like you sending a PM to Tysat would help clear up your confusions. Cheers.

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