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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: June 25, 2020, 03:04:06 PM
We heading for another record. By the time this page is complete it'll be over two months before the next one arrives.

Hot coin.
882  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: For Old and New forum members on: June 25, 2020, 02:58:40 PM
I dont think its good to leave a real job and focus on making money on forum because we dont know how the future of cryptocurrency is and it wont be good if someone chooses to focus on earning income here. It would be better if we think that the income we get on the forum is extra income and whatever we get here will not be a problem if the campaign end or the token bounty is worthless.

True, even though we can suggest the best for them, they have the right to determine their own way of life. Focusing or not on the forum to get income is a choice, I think they know which is the best.

People don't listen and they don't learn until they get a lesson rammed up them. Crypto is pure boom and bust. I'll bet plenty of hardened observers lost their shit and started plans for their paper gains in 2017 too.

It doesn't dawn on you that you've nobbled yourself until the chance to avoid it is long gone. Everyone thinks they're a genius when it's popping left, right and centre.

Arrivals now at least have the benefit of seeing what dead times are like. By the time it booms hopefully they'll know that's a time to be disciplined, not ecstatic.
883  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: For Old and New forum members on: June 25, 2020, 01:11:31 PM
Forums for work are excellent sites but it's foolish to consider making money here first got to gain knowledge about the forum first and learn something you've got to undertake to follow the principles of the forum.

Another thing to be wary of is becoming too dependent on earnings on here once you get those opportunities.

I've seen quite a few people talking about giving up their normal jobs and going 'full time' on here. If you did that in 2017 you would've thought you were set for life. A few short months later the shitcoin/ shittoken /shitfork /airdrop/ scene died on its arse and you'd have no earnings and what you had earnt would be worthless.

I've also seen people say they pay their rent with their sig campaign earnings. Sig campaigns can die after many years of successful operation without any warning at all.

Things change fast in cryptoland. Plan accordingly.
884  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 20-Year-Old Robinhood Customer Dies By Suicide After Seeing A $730,000 Negative on: June 25, 2020, 01:03:56 PM
YES! I believe it should be on Robinhood. They took the risk of giving an unemployed 20 year old "almost a million dollars" in leverage, that could not pay the negative $730,000.

This was a UI problem and the way Robinhood feeds info to customers. The negative balance was there while his trade was active. Once it closes it would've gone away.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/19/business/robinhood-suicide-alex-kearns/index.html

It's a failure on their part not to explain sophisticated instruments better to their customers. All he had to do was ask but it should've been made a whole lot clearer what was an obligation and what wasn't.
885  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Couple was forcibly ask by IRS to sell their crypto to pay their liabilities on: June 25, 2020, 12:40:47 PM
By natural law, any tax liability can only arise from an actual gain from an investment.

What many crypto 'traders' will have done is put whatever gain they made straight back in and many will have subsequently lost it. The moment you realise any gain is when it's taxable and you need to secure that there and then. A frenzied trader could have made tens or hundreds of taxable events every day. Each one counts.

If you don't keep on top of that then you can wind up with nothing and a tax bill that still runs in millions of dollars. I've seen a few cases of this now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tax/comments/9tcnu8/did_i_ruin_my_life_by_trading_crypto/?sort=confidence

In this case at least they have the money to meet the debt. Many won't.

I'm not sure whether crypto to crypto trades were taxable that way in 2017, that has been clarified and they are now in the US, crypto to dollars and vice versa always were and I'll bet many ignored that too thinking it didn't count as it was nothing more than a figure on a website.

There may be capital losses you can play against it. Dunno.

886  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitPay Launches Prepaid Mastercard in the United States on: June 25, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
Update: I loaded $50 on the card. They added a "transaction" fee and a "miner" fee same as they do with their regular invoices. However, the rate was very low .00546 which at current preev rate is $50.46 (10:37 PM EST 24-June) so not as bad as I thought it would be.

Did you double check what exchange rate you got? Some of these cards have hidden spreads. I didn't notice Bitpay doing that with their Wavecrest card that I had but times and policies can change.
887  Economy / Economics / Re: Roubini Warns about the Incoming Stagflation on: June 25, 2020, 09:41:21 AM
@gentlemand doesn’t this remind you of a very wise investor who’s yet refusing to accept bitcoins, clue his last name is Buffet, and both of them have one thing in common it’s their rigid approach which is blocking their view to see a different picture.

Nah.

Buffet has his system and beliefs which have worked for him since time immemorial. Bitcoin pisses all over how he operates and his preferences. It would be seriously off kilter if he did go all in. His position is consistent. He doesn't do gold either.
888  Economy / Economics / Re: Roubini Warns about the Incoming Stagflation on: June 25, 2020, 09:15:38 AM
If you make a career out of one point of view you eventually make yourself totally irrelevant as you can't give it up and acknowledge what's actually happening.

Even if you're eventually proven right, if you spent all that time repeatedly calling for something that won't arrive for another few years that doesn't make you look like a genius, it makes you look lazy. Almost everyone's proven right eventually if they pound the same points over and over.

Same goes for Zerohedge, the site that predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.
889  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [25-6-20] Bitcoin.com Forum Closes on July 23 on: June 25, 2020, 08:25:37 AM
I think I went there twice.

In this day and age I doubt any newly launched forum will ever get a lasting foothold. It's not a format that many are interested in any more, they're into stuff like Telegram groups et al.

You either have to be long established already or you're toast.
890  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anyone tried LibertyX's new buy BTC service (CVS & 7-Eleven)? on: June 24, 2020, 05:10:34 PM
It still exists here.

And what became of the Swiss railway ticket machines thing? That's the type of penetration that's hard to beat but yet again nothing's been heard of since. I guess it's not going to occur to the average rail user, or crypto buyer, to go Bitcoin shopping at one. 
891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Couple was forcibly ask by IRS to sell their crypto to pay their liabilities on: June 24, 2020, 04:04:44 PM
Weird little story. They're willing to attract the ire of the most vindictive government agency in the world for the sake of mad gainz that may never arrive?

They're already withdrawing crypto and have offered no reason why they can't withdraw more. If I were the IRS I'd nail them to the wall.

In future there are going to be many more cases like this. The 'I took a risk so I shouldn't have to pay tax' or 'it's on the internet so it shouldn't be taxed' crew are going to get some harsh lessons in The Man not giving a fuck about what you would like to happen vs what actually will happen.
892  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Beginner's needs directives from seniors. on: June 24, 2020, 10:54:56 AM
I agree that Newbies should be encouraged but what do you mean by massive support from the seniors? How can the seniors support the Newbies in posting or in educating them? It is the responsibility of the newbies to learn by themself. Even Seniors were once upon a time a Newbies. They have learned by themself, they have struggled to come to this level.

Maybe some sort of yearly residential gathering? Lots of star jumps, branded T shirts, shouting and whipped buttocks.

I feel no sense of grandfatherly duty to less awe inspiring members. I did not look to be breast fed by anyone on arrival here and the idea of searching for a nipple to latch on to did not occur to me.
893  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ==- Sim Kids - What happens when Bitcoin fails -== on: June 24, 2020, 10:16:38 AM
If the sentence was a minimum of 40 years, then very few would risk spending their entire lives behind bars.

And yet druggists are everywhere and in the US they get vast sentences handed out like sweeties.

I can't imagine many people ease up and go into contented retirement. They get greedier and cockier the longer they go on. You may start off sim swapping and wind up a total degenerate. Once you get into money laundering the target on your back grows a whole lot bigger.
894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here’s the Case for Bitcoin (BTC) Rise to $180,000, According to Weiss Ratings on: June 24, 2020, 08:58:50 AM
$180k is an absurd numbers to me, we can't barely goes to 5 digits without seeing any corrections. What more seeing 6 digits in the next coming years? And the market is on a cycle, boom and bust so it will be hard to achieved it without the bubble being burst, at $10k-30K per pop.

A Bitcoin with another 5-10x more users, which is very possible in a few years, that isn't at that price level would be absurd. Production is only going one way - down. The numbers who become aware of it and buy in are only going the opposite way. That only has one conclusion.

Four years ago, let alone five or more years ago, if you'd told everyone here we'd be bored shitless around $10,000 people would rip your knickers off and set them on fire. Humans always massively overestimate the short term and humongously underestimate the long term.

Leave one's monkey brain behind and drink in the bigger view.



895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ==- Sim Kids - What happens when Bitcoin fails -== on: June 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AM
I am confident Bitcoin will still be here in ten years. I'd be vastly less confident of being able to realise questionable funds ten years from now. Lord knows how good surveillance will be by then and how uptight any exchange will be. Anything of any value will have a black market but that might bid you in the balls when it becomes clear how dirty your money is.

During that time I'd have little doubt my funds would be labelled and watched closely. I'd go in smug about my little stash and emerge to find it had turned radioactive. And there's also that quantum computing thing which may mean someone has them away when you couldn't migrate and were helpless to do anything about it.

Once you get out you might have been stabbed and beaten countless times, raped a million times over, your family and friends may have abandoned you, you'll never get a job, may not be able to travel internationally and your health, both physical and psychological, may be in ruins.

$2 million for that and losing ten years of your life does not sound like a deal to me, but criminals are truly mindless people.

896  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anyone tried LibertyX's new buy BTC service (CVS & 7-Eleven)? on: June 24, 2020, 08:37:27 AM
I think if I had to deal with one of those I'd stick with an established exchange than a new unproven service.

Or better yet, try one of those newfangled decentralized things but I've been a hodler for too long so I'm out of touch with what the cool kids use these days.

This is run by the biggest and oldest Bitcoin ATM network. They'll know the ins and outs and the legal manoeuvres. The biggest issue would be the utter cluelessness of the store clerk person. I would hope they've made it totally foolproof and mindless on that side.

If I had the choice of this vs some totally unfamiliar dex the latter would take more to convince me.
897  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anyone tried LibertyX's new buy BTC service (CVS & 7-Eleven)? on: June 23, 2020, 10:54:54 PM
There've been services like this in the past like Zipzap and that one that was through French tabacs that were going to change the world. Then they were never heard of again. I'll guess this will go the same way.

There's got to be a level where KYC isn't required, and if there isn't they should establish one. In Europe you can put 250 Euros through a prepaid card before having to identify yourself.
898  Other / Meta / Re: Why does bitcointalk allows signatures? on: June 23, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
I know that some boards have that "display_signature: off" feature, but curious if there are any other sig-restricted threads in non-sig-restricted boards Tongue
Economics and Speculation boards don't have any sig restrictions.

Not to my knowledge. That's the one and only individual thread significant enough to justify that treatment. There are a few others that have thousands of posts too but many have gone off the boil years ago or they're about alts so no one can be arsed to tame them.

Here's the top threads.

899  Other / Meta / Re: Why does bitcointalk allows signatures? on: June 23, 2020, 10:22:31 PM
I  assume the WO thread is an isolated case, right?
I did not see any "disable user signatures" option when creating a new topic. Are there any others like that?... just curious

The ivory tower and serious discussion sections are also sig free and were created sig free. The WO had to make that change to save it as it was starting to get on moderator nerves and it was briefly shut down before being relaunched with its own mod and no signatures. It certainly changed its characteristics and a lot of dead wood made an exit.
900  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Estonia Tightens Checks on Crypto Firms, Cancels 500 Licenses! on: June 23, 2020, 10:20:07 PM
Man it's ridiculous how low Estonia's still is in comparison. It's also pretty funny seeing Malta's that high, considering its marketing image of Blockchain Island. Either way, this might be the reason why they increased their fees:

If I were a jurisdiction gunning to be a 'crypto haven' I would be demanding of the people who want my endorsement but I'd try to keep the fees as low as possible. We all know it's an early phase with a lot to play for still.

That means you're going to get some absolute scum who you want to deter at all costs, and future titans who you want to retain at all cost. It's quite possible the scum will have more money to throw at you.
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