How did back then btc dominance even went back up so much?  I remember when btc dominance went really low but at what point did it go back up?  Did alts just didn't go up as much anymore or something?

It literally shows like half the entire address?  When i copy and pasted the full address... it showed the other half. 


Is that normal?


Why does coinbase not show your entire btc receiving address on one page to view all of it?  That doesn't seem secure at all.


I mean what if you got copy/paste malware or things like that?


Also not talking about the app... im using coinbase on the laptop now and it displays it like this.

I am going to transfer some btc from nano ledger to my coinbase account.  I never sent any btc to coinbase.  When i go to my coinbase account, clicked on bitcoin and it shows a btc receiving address.


However... you don't see the entire address.  Its literally like less than the whole word that is visible?  You see a long address but then it shows ... at the end.  I then copied it and pasted it in nano ledger and it shows an address... but of course you can't see the entire address every single letter on coinbase. 


Is there a way to fix this?  I can't imagine thats how it is?

The thing is I then disconnected my nano ledger from laptop.  


Then just went and did the exact steps I did in the post above with putting 0.05 btc to send and my coinbase address.  Everything was literally the same as in it showed the same maximum spendable amount of btc and I was free to type any amount of btc to spend up to the maximum spendable amount?  


But when i got to the fourth and last step, it then ask me to connect and unlock my device.  I did not do this part.


So is there any concern here?  I'm surprised why it even let me enter any amount up to the maximum btc in my wallet even when I didn't connect my nano ledger yet?  Again if you had an old account in your ledger live that isn't connected to your replacement nano ledger seed which you use now, then what happens?


Such as so what would happen if you connect a different seed nano ledger that isn't connected to the account linked to those btc seed in ledger live?  What message would it show?





But in my previous post... if the nano ledger screen showed output 0.05 btc... show my coinbase btc address in three parts... then accept or reject... is that 100% I own those btc then?

Right now I logged into ledger live and I connected nano ledger to laptop.



Step one


I copied/paste my coinbase address to send to.  Then i selected bitcoin 1 segwit at the bottom for the account to debit since there is where my btc balance is.





Step two


Maximum spendable amount is X btc.  That X btc amount is the amount of btc i have in my portfoiio in ledger live.  I then put 0.05 btc to send and just put standard fees 





Step three


From Bitcoin 1 segwit

To

Coinbase btc addresss



Shows the btc amount 0.05 btc
                                 btc amount in USD


Network fees in both btc and btc and in USD

Total to debit...  in BTC and USD







Step Four


Please confirm the operation on your device to finalize it


Amount    0.05 btc
Fees         0.000017908 btc


On nano ledger deviceit shows


Review output 1

0.05 btc

Address in three parts

Accept

Reject


I clicked on reject and then it shows Red Exclamation Mark on Ledger LIve and shows


Operation denied on device.

Please retry to contact ledger support if in doubt

Save logs
 







Does this confirm I own all those coins in my btc wallet because in the last step, it got to the accept/reject part?

Okay those safe deposit boxes near you... I think those are extremely rare.  I heard of those but I rarely ever see those type of safe deposit boxes in any bank I go to... and I'm from a big city etc.  So I assume you are probably in a smaller city or town?  If so... then I could definitely see that.



I actually wouldn't feel safe having a safe deposit box at a small bank in a smaller town for some reason.  Feels like manager/employee could do things where its much harder to do in a big city bank right?  Like imagine a small name bank i never heard of in say iowa... vs say bank of america or chase in los angeles or dallas.  I mean... i don't think anyone in a bank of america branch in los angels or dallas that is manager/employee would risk doing something like this because they will get caught.  Would you agree on this?



Also, i know it depends on how much you have.  But if you have say l btc or around 50k, people wouldn't want to pay for two safe deposit boxes for the seed to protect that?  I mean its like 2% insurance or so if you think about it a year?  Like say a box cost you 60 a year etc.  Or would you say thats still too much?  I guess if people had like 100k worth of crypto, then it will be worth it?  At how much money would you say it would be stupid to not get two safe deposit boxes at two different banks to store your seed?  I got to assume at say around 250,000 usd, then its almost a no brainer? 

Yes i know getting bank safe deposit boxes are much harder.  But if you have access to it or have someone close with it... then wouldn't it make sense though? 



Yea... i get what you mean if you live in a country with no safe deposit banks and you are far away from it.  I mean like imagine you are in the US for example and live in a big city, like Los Angeles, Texas, Florida etc.  Thus the cities with a lot of the major banks like bank of america, chase etc.  If you had those safe deposit boxes already... wouldn't you put it there?



Yea i know there are tons of ways to store your seed phrase.  But theres always negatives of each one.  Paper... well theft or fire.  With cryptosteel... what if theft and someone finds it?  I mean i seen how it looks... that looks like its something important even if i don't know what crypto is.  My method of storing it online in password manager like keepass/lastpass seem to have most people against it which i understand. 



But if you do that... and store it in the cloud... gmail or dropbox... well someone still needs to hack your email/password... and then your password for your password manager.  Now if you get malware/keylogger, then I know you are screwed right?  So its like you need to make sure you never download anything you don't know on your computer with password manager in it.... right?   So its like any mistake like clicking on email phishing link could screw you up?  But i always hear people say clicking on link doesn't do anything... only if you download EXE file, then you are in trouble.  But don't you still need to open the EXE file?  So if you downloading EXE file but immediately cancel download, isn't that still okay?



Putting it out in the open like a monitor doesn't seem like good idea.  I think putting it where its not visible is the best way.  Also... in a safe?  That is probably the last place i would put it.  I mean any thief is out there looking for a safe.  I still don't understand why people buy a safe here.  I mean... unless the safe is well hidden, isn't safes in general bad? 



Yes i know everyone has a different personal situation.  But if you are from a big city with big banks and thus safe deposit boxes... isn't it wise to use those then?  Also what about people who travel quite a bit?  I mean, traveling with your seed on paper doesn't feel smart to me at all.  Its like you carrying everything on you with that piece of paper etc.



Well obviously i dont mean storing the seed in multiple cities over the country that would be insane.  I obviously mean like the same city etc.

Did most or all of you update to the new firmware yet?  Or you all waiting a few weeks before you do it?  I got to assume very few people update immediately when there is any firmware update right and just wait a bit to see what others say first?



Also what if you don't update the firmware now and travel and say you won't have access to your seed for at least 6 months or so?  Thus I heard never good idea to do firmware update without your seed with you.  Do you think there will be any concern down the line where there is another firmware update in say few months... then when you do an update 6 months down the line... then you might have issues?  I recall years ago people who didn't do any firmware update for years... couldn't do it later on and had that message of device not geniune and firmware way too old.  But someone mentioned ledger fixed this issue right so essentially if you are using the firmware right now... not the one just updated... you are probably still good for a year or two at least?



Or always safe to do an update within a week or weeks after it comes out?

Can you name me DEX and CEX exchanges?


What im surprised though is i have waves... and i had no idea you could trade with a ton of coins on their waves exchange etc.

Does anyone here think btc dominance will get back to over say just 65%?  I don't even think so at this point anymore with all these altcoins.

Yes i know if winklewoss does it, you don't need to.  But i mean if you put in multiple safe deposit boxes... the seed broken in half for example and make two copies each and thus multiple safe deposit boxes at bank, you don't need to be concerned about theft or fire at your home etc.  I mean doesn't that pretty much make it ideal for just about everyone?


The only annoying thing seem to be if you don't have your seed with you, you need to make a trip to the bank and get the two safe deposit boxes etc.


But have there been cases where people seed been exposed when they put it in safe deposit box?  Of course i mean split it up into two pieces or even three pieces.  Because if someone like even bank manager/employee had access to your box... they only have half the seed... they need the other one in your safe deposit box in another location etc.

Also i see you could stake btc and eth as well... but even usdc and usdt.


The apy shows over 30% Estimated APY Interest.  What in the world?  So how much does this translate to in interest yearly?


This makes no sense at att as it say you stake usdt, you get usdtLP.  So is that safe or not?  So if you stake it for a year of say l0,000 usdc or usdt... you going to get back all that usdtlp and that would easily convert to usdt at a flat one to one rate?  These interest rates sound ridiculous... even higher than blockfi/nexo.  Is there something im missing here?

Do any other exchanges use USDN or is it only waves?  Is it safe to have USDN?  Like i know people back then said having lot of USDT wasn't that safe since it wasn't confirmed backed but now people say usdt and usdc is safe.


But what bout USDN?


So basically staking USDN on waves_exchange wallet those percentages is like staking usdt or usdc stablecoins with similar interest rates on nexo/celcius/blockfi?

Okay so been a while since i checked the waves_exchange client and have quite bit of questions.




So im staking some waves now as i did a while back and see 6% staking and seem to get waves sent to me every week.



I see usdn where you can trade waves for it.  Is usdn a stablecoin like usdt or usdc where its flat one dollar regardless?



The thing that is confusing here is at the bottom it says you stake usdn and get 12% to 15%   If so, i see you could stake usdn now and it shows interest of 18.67%.  Is that annual interest?  If so, how is that even possible?



Example if one person has 10,000 dollars worth of waves now and trades it for usdn... they get around 10,000 usdn minus trading fees right?  And i see the fees are literally like 15 cents or so?  It literally shows the transaction to swap waves for usdn is 0.005 waves fee.  But i see there is also a protocol fee... so is that another fee you pay?  So imagine trading 10000 usd worth of waves... how much would you get in usdn?



So that would mean if someone has say 10000 usdn and stake it the entire year they going to earn 1200 usdn or so at least by the end of one year?  So now their balance is 11200 usdn?  Thus imagine doing this with 100,000 usdn... you going to earn 12000 usdn a year?  Then with that balance, you could convert that 12000 usdn to usdt... that send that usdt to coinbase or exchange to convert it to fiat and then to your bank account.  Am i making any mistake here?  But this is with using 12% yearly interest but right now... its 18.67%?  But that number changes throughout the days and weeks right?  But it doesn't get lower than 12%?



If that is the case, couldn't someone with 1,000,000 dollars literally just earn 120,000 usdn a year and then convert that to usdt... then convert it to fiat to coinbase and back to their bank account?  I know those sites like blockfi, celsius offers you interest like that on stablecoins like usdt and usdc etc... so the waves exchange does it as well with usdn?  And USDN is basically a stablecoin of a dollar and never changes?



Can anyone confirm this?

Okay so been a while since i checked the waves_exchange client and have quite bit of questions.




So im staking some waves now as i did a while back and see 6% staking and seem to get waves sent to me every week.



I see usdn where you can trade waves for it.  Is usdn a stablecoin like usdt or usdc where its flat one dollar regardless? 


The thing that is confusing here is at the bottom it says you stake usdn and get 12% to 15%   If so, i see you could stake usdn now and it shows interest of 18.67%.  Is that annual interest?  If so, how is that even possible?



Example if one person has 10,000 dollars worth of waves now and trades it for usdn... they get around 10,000 usdn minus trading fees right?  And i see the fees are literally like 15 cents or so?  It literally shows the transaction to swap waves for usdn is 0.005 waves fee.  But i see there is also a protocol fee... so is that another fee you pay?  So imagine trading 10000 usd worth of waves... how much would you get in usdn?



So that would mean if someone has say 10000 usdn and stake it the entire year they going to earn 1200 usdn or so at least by the end of one year?  So now their balance is 11200 usdn?  Thus imagine doing this with 100,000 usdn... you going to earn 12000 usdn a year?  Then with that balance, you could convert that 12000 usdn to usdt... that send that usdt to coinbase or exchange to convert it to fiat and then to your bank account.  Am i making any mistake here?  But this is with using 12% yearly interest but right now... its 18.67%?  But that number changes throughout the days and weeks right?  But it doesn't get lower than 12%? 



If that is the case, couldn't someone with 1,000,000 dollars literally just earn 120,000 usdn a year and then convert that to usdt... then convert it to fiat to coinbase and back to their bank account?  I know those sites like blockfi, celsius offers you interest like that on stablecoins like usdt and usdc etc... so the waves exchange does it as well with usdn?  And USDN is basically a stablecoin of a dollar and never changes?



Can anyone confirm this?

I entered my waves password into the waves_exchange... it worked.


I have no idea why everyone here suggested i create a new password or account.  That literally made no sense at all.

I want to confirm i could send 0.05 btc from my replacement nano ledger to coinbase.  Let say my ledger live shows 3 btc.  Let say i received 0.005 btc months ago to the replacement nano ledger.  So my balance is 3.0005 btc.  I have never once sent any btc with my replacement nano ledger after i restored an old nano ledger seed into it.  So i want to make sure i have full access to the btc in my ledger live portfolio accounts.


Thus if i were to right now try to send 0.002 btc from replacement nano ledger to coinbase, obviously it will work since i received 0.005 btc to it few months ago. But i want to make sure i have full access to all my btc in the ledger live accounts.  Does that make sense?


My main concern is when my old nano ledger s broke... I didn't get a replacement nano ledger till a bit later... i also didn't have my seed with me at the time.  So when i finally had both of that... i restored my old nano ledger seed into the replacement nano ledger s and it showed processing and then correct which mean my seed was correct.  But i want to make sure l00% that seed i entered... was the seed connected to my btc/bch balance in my old nano ledger.  Does that make sense?  Reason i say this is because i wrote a few other seeds as well when i first bought the original nano ledger but those seeds had nothing there.  Those were seeds i created... then intentionally put wrong pin three times to reset it.  I did this twice with the first two seeds in my original nano ledger before when i set up my old nano ledger the third time... then i wrote that seed and then sent my btc from electrum to it.  But during that time, i never reset my old nano ledger to test if the seed was correct.  But when the old nano ledger seed broke, i had to get replacement nano ledger and restore the seed with it.  Does that make sense?  The seed i entered into the replacement nano ledger is correct... but i want to make sure that seed is tied directly to my coins in the old nano ledger and NOT one of those seeds with 0 balances on it.

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For a few months, all my old transactions with btc and electrum no longer showed up in ledger live history.  I was told this wasn't possible.  But when i did that clear cache on ledger live, it showed all the transactions i ever did etc.



My balance on ledger live was always correct. 



But I want to make sure the seed that is attached to my replacement nano ledger now... which is the old seed for the old broken nano ledger... is indeed connected to my entire balance on ledger live.  I'm not sure if my language is confusing here or whatnot... but I'm confused why lot of people are confused with what im asking here.  Its like saying... hey i see you have this amount of btc in your accounts history in ledger live... but those accounts might not be linked to this nano ledger and its seed... does that make sense?



I want to try to see if I could even send 0.05 btc from my replacement nano ledger to coinbase.  To do this... i know i need to connect my ledger to it.. then click send... then copy/paste my coinbase btc address... then i would type in 0.05 btc right?  Then when i do this, it would ask me to confirm in the nano ledger screen... hey you want to to send 0.05 btc to that coinbase address right?  But before i could even type the amount of btc i want to send... would it show the max amount i could send?  Example... say you have 3.0005 btc in your ledger live balance... if on that sending page... you tried to put down 5 btc to send... it would show error right and you wouldn't even get to the screen where it ask you... sending 5 btc to btc address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX confirm or reject?


My main concern is the 3 btc in the ledger live balance and accounts is not associated with the seed in this replacement nano ledger... but one of the other seeds i wrote down.  Does that make sense?  Or is that impossible based on the information I gave you?  I just want to make sure i could send 0.05 btc... so if i can and it does go through, then obviously the entire 3.0005 btc balance is connected to this nano ledger/seed.

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Why would I need to recreate a password?  Im confused why this is necessary since im still using the exact waves_exchange client as i did last year?  You say passwords only work in one browser, if you log in in different browser, you need new password.  So im using a new browser now?  If so, how?  I am still using the same waves_exchange client right?  Only difference is the log is bit different as it gives more options now?



How would i re-create a password?  You mean sign up for new account after clicking software... is that what you mean?  Then after i put in new password, type in my waves seed?



The thing that confuses me is why do I need to recreate a password here?  Back then when i used the waves lite client on chrome... i remember the first time i had to change to waves new dex client... i had to create a new password... then enter in my waves seed.  Then after a while, the waves new dex client was no more and then we had to use the waves_exchange client.  So i had to do same thing, create new password for waves_exchange client... then type in my waves seed in it... and it was fine.  



But right now, its still the exact waves_exchange client right?  If it is... then why do i need to create a new password?  



Now if its no longer the waves_exchange client and it changed to a completely new waves client... then i understand having to create a new password and needing to then type in the waves seed.  But I don't get why i need to create a new password here since im still using the exact waves_exchange client?  Could someone answer me this part?

But after clicking on software option, do i need to create a new account?  Why would i though if i already have a waves_exchange account already?  It should still be my old same account right?  Again, i am using the same laptop that i used since i last logged into waves_exchange last year.  I would open waves_exchange and type password and thats it.  So shouldn't it be the same password i been using all along?


I could understand having to create a new account if i never used waves_exchange... but i have used it for a while back.  The only difference was back then, the login option is much different.  It was just type in password or create account.  Now it gives you multiple options.  So i want to know... can i click on software... then just enter my old waves_exchange password to log in just like normal?


Im trying to connect my wallet with an exchange... but i have used this waves_exchange wallet before.  Again, I used it for a long time already.  Its just i havent logged in for a while because i notice the login options look different.  So could i just enter my old waves password and thats it?  Asking this because i dont want to make a mistake here so i like someone who has used the waves_exchange wallet could answer this.  Again, i used this waves_exchange wallet a long time ago when it came out. 

I see a bsv balance in my coinbase account along with a btc and bitcoin cash balance.  These balances are extremely tiny. 


But are you saying... i can't send bsv from another wallet to coinbase right now?  Again, i want to claim my bitcoin sv... then send it to coinbase for storage there because nano ledger doesn't support bitcoin sv.