Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself. One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy. Doesn't he own ~5% of NXT? No, as I understand, everyone was allowed 1 btc max investment. bcnext was not exception to that rule. The 1 billion nxt were divided among the investors. This is all public record and happened in the open forum. Unless he was using a sock puppet account to invest twice, there was no special "stock" for bcnext. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3254124#msg3254124see this post in particular, where he laid out the rules clearly about "no developer/creator cut" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3256852#msg3256852Here is my perspective. If you open a a distribution round in one and half month and get only 71 people in which 8 people end up owning 40% of the supply. Then that was a disaster distribution and indicated incompetency. I don't know why you can be proud of it unless the person in charge of distribution intentionally did not try at all. I believe this is what happened: The first post was back in Sept 2013. The traffic in this forum was 1000 time lower. His account was new with no history, and in the second page of the thread someone claims "fraud". People were skeptical, traffic was much lower. I won't call it a "disaster" though as nxt by any standard is a success with large and very active community that grew rapidly. |
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Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself. One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy. Doesn't he own ~5% of NXT? No, as I understand, everyone was allowed 1 btc max investment. bcnext was not exception to that rule. The 1 billion nxt were divided among the investors. This is all public record and happened in the open forum. Unless he was using a sock puppet account to invest twice, there was no special "stock" for bcnext. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3254124#msg3254124The question is does he own 5% ? not what's the rules of distribution?. I don't mind he owns 5% or more at all but here you should answer the question instead of evade it. There is no way to prove who BCnext is and what he owns. All we know this is what happened in the public forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3256852where anyone was allowed to invest btc (cap was 1 btc) and all coins were distributed among the investors. The IPO was open for 2 months. There was no creator's cuts or special stakes for bcnext. This is all public record. |
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Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself. One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy. Doesn't he own ~5% of NXT? No, as I understand, everyone was allowed 1 btc max investment. bcnext was not exception to that rule. The 1 billion nxt were divided among the investors. This is all public record and happened in the open forum. Unless he was using a sock puppet account to invest twice, there was no special "stock" for bcnext. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3254124#msg3254124see this post in particular, where he laid out the rules clearly about "no developer/creator cut" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3256852#msg3256852 |
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Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself. One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy. Doesn't he own ~5% of NXT? No, as I understand, everyone was allowed 1 btc max investment. bcnext was not exception to that rule. The 1 billion nxt were divided among the investors. This is all public record and happened in the open forum. Unless he was using a sock puppet account to invest twice, there was no special "stock" for bcnext. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3254124#msg3254124 |
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If you see that link you posted, it was I who was criticizing nxt's 64-bit account ID system, so you can't say I hold back my punches. Though it's not serious problem, as once outgoing transaction is made, the account is protected by 256-bits public key. |
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You are day-dreaming.
Everything is in the public record, including all the stakeholders list and initial distribution. The unclaimed coins went to community fund. Unless you are accusing bcnext of running several sock puppets with those initial 73 investors, how am I daydreaming? Dude you seem to have an emotional attachment to BC . The slightest thing mentioned or a sinful word called *distribution* and boy you take it on yourself to wade in. The vast majority of Nemsters don't care about some ghost or hate people from over the road. Far harsher words have been spoken on other threads, i recall some by evil Bob or someone. I don't recall you standing up and spreading the love there. Emotions can sometimes blur thought processes, Dude you seems ok and speak with conviction but chill with this BC stuff. I wasn't emotional. I was responding this particular comment: NEM devs are taking smallest piece of (THEIR) cake in whole cryptocoin history
RESPECT This poster used the words "cryptocoin history". I repeated the same exact words in response. I think there are probably many other examples with no priming where developers have smaller percentages. Even satoshi himself has maybe at best 10%, but he was mining alone for an year or something, as there were not a lot of other people around. |
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You are day-dreaming.
Everything is in the public record, including all the stakeholders list and initial distribution. The unclaimed coins went to community fund. Unless you are accusing bcnext of running several sock puppets with those initial 73 investors, how am I daydreaming? |
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Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself. One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy. |
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To be honest,it is really not a very good distribution.
1/2740=0.00036 and ~but we (the core development team) will keep the promise of taking the maximum of 10% of NEM for personal compensation to deliver the community a complete NEM V1 blockchain. ~
10%? really?
Are you kidding me?I'm really disappointed and I will not buy any nem coins in the future.
10% for developers is a fair share. They worked hard and organised such a massive project and distribution. They deserve to be rewarded. Yes, they wanted to get rich so organised this project. But they also create some money/btc for us for just trolling 10% =400 shake/5 or 6 =60-80 shake/person fair? We have only 1 shake but His cake is 60-80 times as big as mine. Does that seem fair to you? WTF I made a promise to myself that I will act nice when it comes to things regarding NEM because I want to respect the movement. I'm going to say this as nice as possible. You are not seeing the big picture here. You are very short-sighted. Missing the point in a very very idiotic way. Open your eyes and take the lint out of your ears. 60 times more for the CREATORS than the guy who just CAME to what these guys CREATED!! That for one is the best deal I have seen. Look around, but follow my advice above first. SMH +1 10% shares for devs is ok and normal NEM devs are taking smallest piece of (THEIR) cake in whole cryptocoin history RESPECT With all the nxt bashing, BCNxt didn't get any extra shares of nxt. He paid by the same rules like all the stakeholders, despite the fact he was the first to deliver second generation crypto currency. Now talk about respect there. That makes nxt developer (BCNxt) the fairest developer in the history. No one is going to ever come close |
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Do we have a clear idea now how many exo per btc (and ltc) early investors get?
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Instead of giving stakes to people on waiting list, can we give them to the owners of popular exchanges?
cryptsy,
mintpall,
justcoin
bter
btc38
coinbase
etc etc
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I think most altcoins announced here, and I don't need to name them, on bitcointalk are completely pointless and have no real world application whatsoever outside of this small sandbox, but I don't go post on boards and insult supporters of those because I have better things to do with my time. If the fraud committed by Aphroditecoin serves a purpose here and makes idiots like you think they are too smart to invest in any other country coin then fine, the benefits will be enjoyed by someone more deserving in the end.
You are an idiot if you think any country named bitcoin clone (made by total anonymous fraudsters who don't even live in that country) are not "completely pointless". You are also an idiot if you think merchants in a country will accept as payment (send you goods, gold, silver, food) in return for such coins, when you were given the "coins" for "free" in "airdrop" (if that even happens). The whole idea, starting with anonymous fraudsters living in mom's basement issuing the coins to a country they pick randomly from the map, to "free airdrop" is stupid. You are an idiot, dude. |
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dragonseer is either involved in the scam itself (developer's sock puppet) or he is missing about 50% of his brain cells.
Think about this: An unknown scammer with very little programming skills sitting in his mom's basement spends 1 hour to clone code, clone a website, and create a twitter account, and then proclaims this "coin" will now be the unofficial currency of this country (he picks it randomly from the map) .
dragonseer starts buying the coins and insists the coin will change the economy of the country, and merchants in that country will accept it as legitimate payment to sell goods.
Talk about being stupid.
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NXT looks good, but is held back by the initial distribution to only 71 people...
This is nonsense, as far as I am concerned. Nxt IPO was open to everyone for 2 months. There were fewer people on the forum back then, and many were skeptical claiming it a scam. In one way that turned out to be a good thing as they didn't have to deal with sock puppets. That was back in Oct/Nov of 2013, and it's irrelevant now as there are somewhere around 25,000 nxt accounts with at least one nxt in them. Nxt distribution is no worse than bitcoin where early miners still have vast majority of bitcoins. It's not going to make a difference going forward. What matters now is current development, active developers, adding new features, making it more useful as a platform to wider audience, and active community. Just a quick look at the forum https://nxtforum.org/ and it's clear nxt have all these properties. |
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Is there a reason why you continuously spamming not only this thread but every other thread on BTTT and Nxtforum with Nas? I know you bought large chunk of NAS and now want to promote it, but this is shameless spamming Sorry that I botherd you with free coins... "Free" is funny word here. Of course it's a "giveaway" to promote a coin that you bought (large chunk) with real bitcoin and now want to promote it for selfish interest. That doesn't change the fact your posts are spam. |
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Is there a reason why you continuously spamming not only this thread but every other thread on BTTT and Nxtforum with Nas? I know you bought large chunk of NAS and now want to promote it, but this is shameless spamming |
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whoever is out there offline bruteforcing the blockchain, must have guessed it on you. sorry dude
No guessing required. The hacker just went through two million or so bitcoin addresses with money in it (could be done in two seconds) and found his account. His password was not random. |
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Why does Graviton allow this?!?
If whoever is doing this owns up publicly and can provide solid proof to me (means, an email from Graviton), I'll return the 0.9 BTC (minus fees) that I sniped.
ROFLMAO!  ...it's called KARMA... Edit: [WTB] 50M NAS for 0.50 BTCEDIT: I have now sniped 13.8 BTC 26.7 BTC. I will return it, same conditions as before. Graviton: if this turns out to be a bug in your platform, please let me know and I will of course refund. Deadline for owning up & providing proof: 3 days from now. You have not "snipped" anything unless you can withdraw them dgex  |
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196 I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky... https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.htmlIf your password was truly random, with no keyloggers on your machine, then you might be the first victim of 64-bit ID weakness as you had no outgoing transaction. Can you post your password so people can compare your public key with the hacker one? yes, op, please get us your passphrase. we're all extremely interested in this case. if your passphrase generates the public key f32068b534e8e892168dac1a7b90357bc9cd302ab2a68b95483cd18c5d86ee12, then as these bruteforce odds would be the equivalent you you winning a lottery going on right now in some other planet not of this solar system, we will then assume your computer is hacked or someone sniffed your network packets while you used used an online wallet somewhere, or that you used a compromised wallet program. if your passphrase doesnt generate that public key but does generate that account# then it is a fact that there was a 64bit collision. and this would be the first publicly known instance. quite a big deal. Ill donate 500 NXT to your new account if this is the case. maybe others will donate as well. Hey there, sorry for the long wait. Been away yesterday and just came home. The password I used for my old account was: 1NmYJ9JD28E23ANjErJ9ADfcswvavmej35 Thank you all for your interest in my case! P.S: yes, it looks like a BTC address, but it was actually generated by a PW-generator If its random password, why does it have funds in it? https://blockchain.info/address/1NmYJ9JD28E23ANjErJ9ADfcswvavmej35Thanks for posting the password. Your 64bit account ID was not hacked. You had a very weak password (a bitcoin address with transaction history on bitcoin blochchain) It has nothing to do with the length of the password. A random 15 char password would have been much stronger than a known bitcoin address with transaction history. |
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You sound like one though, That's a pretty nasty reply from a "new" user
I don't give a toss what you think, but you're right, I'm a nasty old fucker, even on the first date. What's your beef anyway? You sound like a nosey school girl. Back on your knees darling, unless of course , your one of the developers. Are you? I am pretty sure you are a sock puppet |
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