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21  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: September 19, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
My proposition was to filter out potential abusers using my script, then manually verify the list and only punish those that received merits for posts that are complete garbage...
This leaves the possibility the shitposter received Merit without buying it. The sender on the other hand is for sure guilty in this scenario.

Your project deserves it's own thread!

I hope your works can be done as soon as possible @mocacinno. I am sorry to say that and it sounds kinda annoying but if the works can be done as soon as possible, then people can really use it to mark that "lucky member" so they can not advance to upper rank. At least I would do that if no one doing it, with my ignore button.
22  Other / Meta / Re: Should we look through the post history before awarding merit to newbies? on: September 19, 2018, 10:58:50 AM
In my opinion, and i apply it to myself, i should look into a member's post history before giving a merit to someone. It takes a lot of time but it will save this forum from adding more spammer. In fact, people should do it because Theymos already made an addition to this merit system for reducing spammer and recklessly giving merit will undone what Theymos did.

I do believe that people deserve a second chance to prove themselves are better now, but not in 1 day after this new system was added. After the introduction of new system and this or that spammer changed? Nope, it is just an attempt to get merit so they could spam their bounty more.
23  Other / Meta / Re: And thats how I got my FIRST ever Merit... on: September 19, 2018, 09:53:09 AM
Looking trough your post history man, I feel like I'm in Gyza.

It's not Egypt here, please stop the quoting pyramids, I don't even see how did you manage to get 1 merit.

Same, i am quite confused in here. I do really agree that anyone deserves a chance to get a merit and second chance to be a different person and stop being (at least less) bounty hunter, but is too fast for someone to give this OP a merit. Just my opinion.
24  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
I bought an account from the owner. Not hacked one

Moderators bans a man who violated the rules and its forbidden to create a new account on the forum for him. I got a ban for something I didn't do and now I cant write on the forum

Probably the original owner already know that he is being reported for plagiarism and the account is on the risk of getting banned, and then he sold his account to you which is the best thing happened in the original owner's side, but unfortunately it is the worst thing happened to your side. You got scammed.

You will not get your account unbanned, even if you have all the valid data in your hand.
25  Other / Meta / Re: Easy Way Newbie To Jr. Member Process on: September 18, 2018, 11:15:42 AM
Yes Agree with your comment.But I think this is what theymos want to do, new members need to post high quality post to earn their 1 st merit. Not just posting or replying just for bounty campaign.I think new system shows it's importance by this post, actually this is clearly an attempt to get merit himself but he understood he want to create(quality) post. and past I saw many merit rewarded posts like this post. so I don't think he is a dabbler, just let him to grow with new system.

Well i just want to say this. Look, in a high quality post there is something called novelty. It does not mean that your post must has 100% novelty but at least it is not something that is always repeated by newbie or Jr. Member who come to this Meta Section. This kind of post is already made by a lot of newbies and Jr. Member, even since the original merit system introduced back in January, and people are already bored of this
26  Other / Meta / Re: Set up a simple task for the novice and get a Merit on: September 18, 2018, 03:10:28 AM
This is giving us (at least me) a clear insight into this matters because of some question left in my head after the new additional of merit system, such as :
1. If merit is so hard to get, all newbie will be at meta, but it is only a fraction of them. It indicates that other newbie account is just an alt-accounts to newbie who comes up in here, or some just dont care.
2. Why does this newbie who come to here think 1 merit is a nearly impossible task? Simple. Because they have a lot of accounts, that is why it is hard. Making good content in a lot of accounts is hard and buying merits for all of their account is expensive.

Isn't helping members and making a good contribution is a simple task? It is only 1 merit, come on !
27  Other / Meta / Re: My opinion on the hottest issue of the day on: September 17, 2018, 07:14:46 PM
What the hell? It is only 1 point of merit and you think it is the end of the world? Sorry to say but you are weaklings. It is just a f damn 1 point and you think you can not even get it? Your guys' mentality is really broken because doing a lot of bounty hunting.

My friend decided to buy merit and he was cheated. You can imagine that, in my country, the amount used to buy 10 merits may be the amount of food per person in a month.

And why the hell he bought 10 merits? Obviously because he has 10 alt-accounts.

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merit ruins my life !
28  Other / Meta / Re: Is the new merit system better? on: September 17, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
The best additional system to this forum since the introduction of merit itself. It creates a lot of effect, positive or not depends on the way people look at it. Even though i am using signature and it may sound hypocrite, but I think if you can not get 1 merit, you should listen to what Theymos said in the last line of his OP in his latest thread.

Why would you think 1 merit is not fair for you? Simple, it is because you only want to do bounty in here (and maybe with a lot of alt-accounts because what the hell it is only 1 merit, it is not that hard unless you got 10++ accounts), not anything else. You treat this forum as a farm, not a forum.
29  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [GUIDE] Melakukan Report Secara Efektif on: September 17, 2018, 04:55:40 PM
Bagus bagus, banyak yang termakan umpan dari saya, klo kata anak jaman now ini namanya ngebait, hehehe. Thanks for coming in to my thread, i appreciate it a lot. Dengan kalian membuat post di sini, berarti kalian peduli juga dengan keadaan spam yang sudah berlebihan di forum kita.

Buat yang udah ngelakuin report, selamat guys, dan terima kasih atas usahanya buat forum ini.

@panjul07 dan mu_enrico
Thread guide tujuannya untuk orang yang belum kena virus untuk ngereport. Klo udah terkena ya ngapain baca report, paling juga udah khatam ilmunya. Tidak perlu lah rasanya membilang2kan aksi lebih baik daripada sekedar kata2, tujuannya sudah beda. Pengembangan itu jangan dari satu arah klo menurut saya, klo agan mau meningkatkan aksi silahkan, tapi ingat, suatu saat member yang ngespam lebih banyak dan di satu titik bahkan usaha 10000% dari beberapa orang gak akan mampu menutupi perkembangan spammer. Makanya saya translate guide biar orang membaca dan kena paparan virus untuk ngereport, supaya ada kemungkinan orang yang mau ngereport bertambah. Ibarat ngiklan, apakah orang bakal langsung menonton suatu film kalau gak lihat iklan atau trailernya dulu? (kecuali film yang udah punya nama/franchise besar kyk marvel dll). Nah sekarang pertanyaannya, apakah report itu namanya dah besar? No. Makanya saya buat thread.
30  Other / Meta / Re: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements on: September 17, 2018, 02:47:45 PM
I hope it will help reduce spam a little bit, but unfortunately for account farmers, 1 merit is not a big deal they always can buy it.

You are right, they will easily do it. I think this rule will be very wise if the person who can give merit is a moderator.

Even if they can buy, the price will be higher now since Theymos introduced this system (if there is a merit trading going on), and it would take them a lot if they have 20++ accounts. You will be surprised of how mmany accounts a people can have and maintain.

The word is official now. Merit ruins my life !
31  Other / Meta / Re: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements on: September 17, 2018, 10:38:17 AM
But if you're incapable of posting anything worthwhile, then you will never rank up, and you shouldn't: this isn't the forum for you.

The best news i have read from Theymos since i registered on this forum, and the best line we have got so far from the Admin itself. This will make the popular word in this forum become official :
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Merit ruins my life
like any other popular word (ex : HODL)

The additional of merit sources is so great. I hope the distribution can be wider and faster after this additional of merit sources. 120 merit sources is a great number in my opinion.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you believe in ETH? on: September 17, 2018, 06:02:02 AM
It is a normal reaction i guess. What is not normal is people who are still believe in Ethereum, and still hold it until it reach another "All Time High" price again, that is not normal. That is why not everybody can be rich and success in this world.

Yes, i believe in Ethereum, but mostly I believe in Bitcoin.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: can cryptocurrency succeed? on: September 17, 2018, 12:01:07 AM
Cryptocurrencies have proven that we Can transact anonymously without a centralized interference.
The Blockchain has proven that data can be stored in a decentralized public ledger against any form of manipulation.
Smart contracts has proven that two or more people can trust a system in which the assigned contract managing it will be fair to all parties...

When speed, simplicity and efficiency is added to all of this I think decentralization and blockchain technology can go far in the real world as regards adoption.

What do you think of the chances of cryptocurrencies to succeed?.

While decentralized system brings some advantages, it also brings a disadvantages like security issues, anonimity (gives advantages and disadvantages, and many more. Just want to say, what you have been saying in the OP is basically right, but lets not forget that every system alwaya have its advantages and disadvantages.

Although i agree that cryptocurrency can be a big success, it is still a long way to go before all people adapt this technology.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it worth the work and waiting? on: September 16, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
You need to make sure from the beginning that the coins you will be supporting is the right coins. If you already made a decision then stick to it. I make my step very detail, even i make when will i sell the coins or in what price i will be selling those coins, not just work and then sell it when we get the coins.

If you want to be sure, then just do some Ethereum and Bitcoin.
35  Other / Meta / Re: Do you think more merit sources need to be added? on: September 16, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
I see that some people voted for the “no” option. It’s a pity that they didn’t express their opinion on the thread.  Cry

It is like hit and run, right? I guess if they do share some of their opinion, there would be a great deal of discussion going around here.

If so, he should probably grant some staff or even trusted members of the community the ability to add them, or make more admins who can do this.

Couldn't agree more with you hilarious. Theymos should give this kind of authority to a person who can help him in this merit matters. I believe the authority is not as high as giving someone the ability to restore account, because it is a different job, way different, so i think it is not a problem if Theymos give this "merit sources authority" to some trusted person/member.
36  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel? on: September 15, 2018, 07:42:08 PM
The idea is great in general, but it has a lot of things to be prepared for the idea to be succeed, like :
1. Who will run the channel? If you run it yourself, you will need a lot of time Theymos.
2. Who will be the judge on "quality posts" to be showed up on the channel? It is a hard task because it is definitely a subjective task.
3. Reward system for  content creator (optional)
4. Are we prepared enough for the next generation of spammers which might be attracted by the channel?
37  Other / Meta / Re: Do you think more merit sources need to be added? on: September 15, 2018, 04:56:10 PM

That would be a good start, I think.  There's only 84 right now, so it would certainly help.

Does anyone think giving out more sMerits per good post would help?  If I'm not mistaken, merit sources get topped up pretty quickly so giving out 5-7 merits for a good post shouldn't put much of a ding in their supply.  I don't really know how many the sources are giving out per post, and I also don't think the number of members who truly deserve to rank up is all that high.  

If that ranking up pipeline thread keeps getting updated, that would be a good place to look for members needing merits.  I have that one bookmarked, but not all of those people make good posts.

Yes, 100 would be a good start. With that being said, i think that giving out more sMerits per good post would be a great help and it can (slightly) solve the problem which DdmrDdmr's stated in his new thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029372.0).

I hope that thread can help a lot of people in the future, maybe including myself  Grin (no joke)
38  Other / Meta / Re: sMerit participants – a worrying descending trend (!/?) on: September 15, 2018, 03:34:25 PM
Regular members should have more merits to spend (x merit/month) and merit sources should give more to high quality posters.

So reguler members should have sMerits per month? I dont understand this idea of yours.

Should you guys, who are merit sources, make a same standard on how to give merits to a post? Maybe some standard on how much points to be given to a post too ? This statistics given by DdmrDdmr is worrying and it can lead to an abstain of giving merits in the future.
39  Other / Meta / Re: Do you think more merit sources need to be added? on: September 15, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
Of course. Merit source number should be increased to match the number of forum's member because there are some of high quality members left unmerited because the coverage of  current merit source is not that wide. I suggest it should be added based on region/local board activity, because there are gems hidden in the local boards, and some of them are not good at english. There are no rule stated that a meritorious post should be in english right?

Maybe 100 merit sources needed as a start, for now?
40  Other / Meta / Re: Create new account to make revenge. on: September 15, 2018, 01:14:01 PM
Do not worry and just carry on with your job on reporting people with that kind of action. Plagiarism, abuser, cheater, scammer should be banned and the forum need a lot of people to do a job like you and the others. For your info, trust system divided into 2 categories, trusted feedback and untrusted feedback. If untrusted people (people which are not in the default trust system/link) give you a negative feedback, it will not affect your account at all, same goes to positive feedback.
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