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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TOP 5 of tokens in 2018. Your opinion on: March 14, 2018, 11:41:22 AM
If you asked me, my favorite coins for this 2018 would be :
1. Ethereum
2. VLB
3. Neo
4. Buzzshow
5. IPL

Your project is good, i find it intereseting but i must say i am more interested into VLB right now. They have great founders and team, has a lot of great partnerships, and lastly a realistic softcap and hardcap. They are on their ICO phase now. And the recent moves they make is they have two interview in a big event, one is in Japan.
582  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: March 14, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
Please quote this message guys

----BITCOIN ADRESS ----

bc1qcgv6chyj4s8xwm8k3x0d7lxtq3j8dhnrfqed72

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

i am athanz88 (u=1141886) from bitcointalk.org, today is March 14th,2018, and i am stating that the account is belong to this address.

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----

IKHOr8iHSDBA+0gpIkqp9wFHNIXnUjoOepw59/sbDJYABgCGk8ZJv1y3dMOVQ1WYaKy/wGHjIqr7yhsCQX74eGc=

Thanks man.
583  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: March 14, 2018, 07:48:45 AM
Sya bru prtma x mlihat postingn sebagus ini. Postingannya sngat mmbantu bgi yg mmbcanya ,apalagi bgi pemula sprti sya ini yg msih trsesat di tngh jaln, yg blum tau arh n tjuannya kmana... Trmaksih pak ats infonya,ini akn mnjdi ilmu yg sngat pnting buat sya...

Please use english and for now i guess it is better if you just stick and communicate with other members in your local thread. Using other language beside english in other board can be classified as breaking a rules and you might get a punishment from it.
584  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISCUSSION] cheater detector yang berujung Red Trust & BAN. on: March 13, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Rame nih kayaknya, ikut nimbrung sedikit soalnya ada yang bikin ane sedikit geli bacanya.

Merujuk pada : Logikanya, saat kita menjual Token maka kita membutuhkan Ethereum untuk biaya gas, tentunya ETH gas hanya bisa kita dapatkan dari teman-teman kita sendiri. Karena sangat jarang orang yang mau membantu kita tanpa mereka kenal orangnya

Logika agan 100% ngawur, eth bisa didapatkan hampir disemua exchanger. Artinya ga cuma bisa didapat dari temen sendiri.


Benar sekali gan, ETH itu bisa didapatkan dari exchanger tempat dia trading, jadi tidak perlulah transaksi-transaksi yang mengundang kecurigaan

Ane pernah bantuin beberapa teman untuk ongkos gas, dalam hal ini tentunya ane melakukan transfer ETH ke wallet mereka dari wallet ane untuk bantu biaya gas, jika hal ini bisa membuat ane ter ban atau ter redtrust, oh alangkah ngawurnya sistem judging ini gan  Cry

Transaksi yang normal dari address eth ke address yang lain ga akan pernah mempan untuk menjudge orang sebagai multi accounter yang berujung pada red trust atau ban terkecuali transaksinya udah berlebihan. Misalnya hasil bounty dikumpulin di 1 address di waktu yang hampir bersamaan. Wajar lah kalo ada yang curiga.


Ini yang meningkatkan kecurigaan yang melaporkan termasuk kita-kita yang membaca ceritanya, kesannya habis bounty farming langsung dikumpulin di satu tempat di wallet utama, biar gak lupa dan token tidak tersebar-sebar. Terus berdasarkan post sebelumnya, malah ada address yang terkait penipuan, coba liat posting sebelumnya gan. Dan beberapa mod juga udah menjalankan prosedurnya sebelum sampai ke pengecekan transaksi wallet.


Tau sendiri kan sekarang di VIP minimum transaksi etherium keluar dilayani adalah 0.1 ETH. kasian temen2 kita gan musti nyediain uang yang segitu banyaknya, sementara mereka belum dapet hasil dari bounty, lalu kita mau tulus bantuain dengan mempertaruhkan ID prime kita..

Coba dicek lagi di VIP berapa minimal withdraw ETH, apakah 0,1ETH seperti yang agan tulis? Buat bounty hunter harusnya juga siap modal dong buat transaksi keluar MEW mereka, masa iya untuk mendapatkan hasil dari jualan token yg didapat ga mau usaha nyiapin IDR buat beli ETH sendiri. Toh nantinya ETH tsb juga bakalan berguna lagi kedepannya jadi ga perlu repot2 lagi pinjem sana-sini.


Nah ini yang saya bilang sebelumnya (karena momod bilang pendapatan mereka ini bisa puluhan juta perbulan), masa gak mau nyisain ETH buat gas untuk transaksinya, sisain berapa gitu dari pendapatan, lebih aman daripada pake cara-cara lain. Maaf kata aja ya, tukang2 lain yang jualan makanan misalnya kayak bubur atau lontong aja berani nyisihkan uang untuk modal awal dan bagian modal itu gak pernah diganggu gugat, bahkan kalau mereka menilai bisa dilakukan penambahan modal yang diambil dari untung harian, mereka lakukan, masa kita yang kerjanya terbilang nyantai gak berani sisihkan modal?

Saran ane jangan pake standart transfer MEW lah kalo mau kasi redtrust or laporin kita biar ke ban

Melaporkan orang lain dengan dasar apapun itu hak setiap orang gan, entah nantinya itu diterima sama DT atau engga itu urusan belakangan. DT juga ga akan seenaknya ngasih red trust dari semua laporan. Pastinya bakal di check ulang dulu, kalo emang terbukti ada kecurangan dimata DT ya memang udah nasib dapet red trust. Kalo itu terjadi pada agan atau siapapun yang merasa red trust yang diberikan adalah salah, maka tinggal menjelaskan dengan bukti yg kuat kalo yg dituduhkan itu ga bener.


Sudah dijelaskan mod, dia ngasih gak berdasarkan transaksi MEW, tapi ada kecurigaan di forum terlebih dahulu seperti campaign selalu bareng, aktifitas merit farming, dll, barulah dia merujuk ke transaksi blockchain.

Maaf panjang.
585  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Teknik Menghindari Plagiarisme dan Dianggap Copy-paste on: March 13, 2018, 07:19:51 PM

Santalima, apakah agan baru saja ngopas teks dari agan athanz88?
Atau ada maksud lain?


Mungkin maksud dia cuma meng-quote kata-kata ane gan tapi mungkin belum mengerti cara meng-quote.
586  Other / Meta / Re: JUST MY SUGGESTION on: March 13, 2018, 07:00:31 PM
my suggestion to dev forum for making this system ... every member MIN RANK MEMBER  have sMerit every day ,

so everyday sMerit can be generate

Code:
Legendary: 10sMerit perday
Hero: 5merit perday
Full Member: 2 meri per day
member: 1 smerit per day
Sorry agan I'm still Newbie do not want to step over jr brothers to legendari, just I want to argue If sMerit in every day can apply labih good and with good terms too, now to get smerit wrote do not know how to say how from post the reality of many brothers who post good but there is no smerit, which is certain and very main how to get merit and then can be applied one day per smerit. Sorry if my words are wrong....Huh


It is better if you learn about this forum for a while in your local board and communicate with members there. If you can make a great post and contribute there, i am sure you will get the merits. Even if you dont get it, just keep contributing because making yourself have a better quality and competency will bring you good in the future. First thing you should learn is english, and then this forum and cryptocurrency.
587  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which is better to invest in? on: March 13, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
I can advise you some ICO project in which I invest:

1 WePower.network - a great team with major influence on the European energy market.
2 VLB - a strongly backed-up group of advisors with fast fundraising and real experience in the auto
3 Qlink - a decentralized mobile network for constructing an open-source telecom infrastructure

For a short time investment, if you can score a good project, alt-coins can bring you a lot of fortune. These 3 coins is good based on my personal of view, but i reall suggest the number 2, VLB. They have a great team, advisor, partnership and realistic caps. They are on their ICO phase now, i have a feeling this will be a good coin based on my research about them.

O ya, if you heard about VLB on 2017, yes it is the same project. Last project cap is not achieved so they returned all the investors' money and made a new plan, and now here they are with a better team, realistic cap, and adjusted money plan for every cap reached.
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Vin or VLB ? on: March 13, 2018, 06:03:24 PM
Hey guys I've been looking into Auto industry coins and I've been looking for a good coin to pour some money into.
VLB has a good team and great partners but no marketing and VIN has insane marketing but their github seems like a ghost town.
Anyone else wanna shoot some feedback my way? Not sure which one to invest in....
As for me, these projects simply can not be compared. They have different potential, but VLB exists for a long time and has already shown its results, while Vin is still a mystery.

I agree with you, both are a great example of a competitor to each of them. But i really have positive vibes for VLB rather than the competitor. Last news about them is one of the founder had a interview in the 10th blockchain conference organized by Blockchain EXE in japan. It is a great thing because there are many of car company in Japan and they have a chance to make a new partnership there.
589  Other / Meta / Re: like where to raise the position bitcointalk.org account? on: March 13, 2018, 04:22:04 PM
wow there has been a lot of cases like this, member from (most likely) Indonesia Local Board going to other board without learning first. This is embarassing and could affect other Indonesian names, because it is already tainted and i personally dont want that to become more bad.

For OP, here i give you a direct link to the Indonesian thread about some rules and basic things to know about this forum. Please learn well.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818787.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=764664.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750446.0
590  Other / Meta / Re: Introduce a "Up vote & Down vote" system instead of the "Merit" system on: March 13, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
I just want to say, rank is not a human right but it is a privilege which you got after you do something good for the forum. For the past system, the fact that they are here long before the merit come is a good thing for the forum, some of them are great person but some are not and did spamming the forum, but it is in the past now and you can not change it. It is just the same like you are blaming people because they are into bitcoin way gaster than you and you join when the price is already 10k.

Even if you can not login into this forum with many accounts (100 you said which i dont know if its true or not or you just said it based on your logic without valid data), there are lot of disadvantages with down voting system, one of them is a group of member who holds grudge against each other. It will just create a war in here. And you may face increasing difficulty to join in bounty and sig (because you are so persistent about ranking to get dollars) because other group will make sure people who are not in their group to get alot of down vote and cannot join bounty or sig.

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3. The proposed system is not perfect. But it can make better by discussing.

Same, merit is not perfect, it can be better by discussing, but for now the solution is already discussed, which is to add more merit sources and give it time.

p.s. if you like so much about reddit and steemit system, why dont you play there?
591  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISCUSSION] cheater detector yang berujung Red Trust & BAN. on: March 13, 2018, 09:25:16 AM
Yang di post agan nyerok di atas saya ini mendapat balasan dari hillariousandco

Oh what a suspire, sylon's campaigns being abused by farmers en mass again  Roll Eyes.

I'll go through them later when I've got time. If you go through sylon's campaign spreadsheets you'll likely find dozens of farmers with dozens of accounts. Often you can spot them just by their usernames or patterns they sign up in (a load of Full Member accounts all sign up at the same time with roughly the same postcounts etc).

Translate:

Wow, sungguh suatu kejutan, campaign nya sylon di abuse lagi sama para farmer-farmer.

Aku bakalan ngeceknya nanti kalau aku punya waktu. Jika kamu meneliti spreadsheet campaign-nya sylon kamu bakalan nemuin farmer dengan multiple/banyak akun. Seringkali kamu bisa menemukan mereka hanya dari username atau pola mereka saat mendaftar ( banyak akun full member yang mendaftar di waktu yang sama dan mereka rata-rata hampir memiliki jumlah post yang sama, dll)

Lihat kan, beda-beda orang beda-beda caranya. Ini malah ampe global moderator nentuin cuma dari username doang, dan bahakan dia menyatakan dll, berarti dia mempunya banyak cara untuk menentukan dan mempertimbangkan seseorang kena negative trust atau tidak.

Kita mengira kita bisa mencurangi system sampai detik ini, belum di negative trust bukan berarti kelakuan jelek kita tidak diketahui sekarang atau nantinya, lebih baik main aman dan jujur saja.
592  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISCUSSION] cheater detector yang berujung Red Trust & BAN. on: March 13, 2018, 08:00:49 AM
buat temen" seperjuangan yang mengais rejeki dari cara jujur atau dari cara farming akun dan terlebih lagi menggunakan cara curang, itu semua hak masing masing, dan momod disini menjalankan tugasnya dengan baik.

jadi buat kalian yang nggak mau di ban atau di kasih red trust oleh mood disini ya sebaiknya pakai cara yang jujur, jikalau moderator salah mengasih red trust kepada kalian yang maen jujur, kalian bisa ajak moderatornya ketemuan secara langsung toh dia masih orang indonesia.
sedikit pesan buat orang yang masih menggunakan cara curang telebih muslim nih, buat apa kalian dapat penghasilan yang banyak sedangkan hasilnya diperoleh dari cara yang curang ?
memang kalian bisa sanggup memikul rasa bersalah dari cara kalian tersebut ?
untuk apa mendapatkan hasil yang banyak jika hasil tersebut dari cara yang tidak benar, mau di pakai untuk kegiatan baik pun uang tersebut tetap bersumber dari cara yang tidak benar dan tidak akan bisa di rubah menjadi hal yang baik.
fikirkan hasil curang tersebut yang akhirnya kalian berikan kepada sanak kelluarga dan mereka dengan senang hati menggunakan atau memakan hasil dari pemberian kalian tersebut ? apakah  kalian tega ?

belum ada kata terlambat untuk kita bertaubat dan merubah semua itu sebelum mental kita dirusak oleh sesuatu yang mudah diperoleh dengan cara curang tersebut.
fikirkan lagi, apa value dari diri kita yang bisa kita lakukan jika semua ini sudah tidak ada ?
apakah kita akan terus - terusan tenggelam dalam hal yang tidak benar seperti itu ?

mungkin kalian akan ketawa membaca ini dan merasa sangat benci, tetapi inget bro penyesalan selalu datang belakangan, selalu jadikan teguran dari orang lain sebagai bahan renungan.


Salut sama yang ini, kita harus punya kontrol terhadap semua hal di hidup, kalau gak mau pake agama pake kontrol moral mu. Kecurangan kecil di sini bisa aja terbawa ke bagian-bagian lain kehidupan karena udah terbiasa.

snip
Sehubungan dengan thread kami https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3114418.0, dan berdasarkan anjuran https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3114418.msg32181188#msg32181188, sekarang kami masih dikantor polisi untuk membuat laporan tentang hal tersebut.
Berikut adalah wallet lama kami : 0x7939A4aea1B95048575B5a69197eC43886b702BB
Dan kebetulan kami memang pernah copy memberikan prifat.key kepada seseorang sekitar bulan september, dan dua bulan yang lalu terjadilah hal yang tidak kami harapkan, banyak token yang keluar dari wallet kami.
Berikut transaksi keluar dari dari wallet kami:
1. https://etherscan.io/tx/0xac617a54f88cebdb12d0f2a32e416e13127f1b8440ef3cc32501eb77abc043ba
2. https://etherscan.io/tx/0xd811e8002f4587e9c2b2e9850797af711d1b9008ca3b95891d86d843ff5ac6af
3. https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb511cec02221ed35de937a74c23f829d467184ff6f65b8ec1cd28abe742612d3
Dan masih banyak lagi.

Mohon moderator untuk membantu kami, sesuai anjuran dari pihak kepolisian  


Nah coba tolong dibahas ini, yang merasa dirugikan oleh yang punya address akhirnya datang juga setelah postingan agan joniboini, dan saya lihat juga yang punya address ada di atas.
593  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Teknik Menghindari Plagiatisme dan Dianggap Copy-paste on: March 13, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
trus caranya kita tahu kalo ada member yang postnya copas punya orang lain gimana gan?apa harus cocokin postnya satu persatu?capek dong...kyknya seru nih jadi tukang pengadu post copas...heheh

Iya. Capek. Memang seru.

~
Kita melihat perkembangan sekarang , memang sangat berkembang dan mampu merubah perubahan ekonomi masyarakat di berbagai kalangan. kita harus belajar dan harus menguasai topik .jadi bila mana memberikan postingan harus ada kaitan nya dengan topik..

Kalau kita lihat sih perkembangan bitcoin sekarang gan,emang sangat berkembang dan mampu merubahkan ekonomi masyarakat diberbagai kalangannya,kita harus belajar untuk menguasai topik yang  kita posting gan,jadi bila mana untuk memberikan posting maka kita harus ada kaitan dengan topik yang mau diposting.

Ehem?
Nah post yang hampir sama persis gan,bahaya juga kalau begitu.
Semisal kita uda ngepost tetapi ada orang lain yang tidak bertanggung jawab meniru post kita.
Nanti yang kena kita juga,walaupun kita tidak tahu apa apa.

Kan ada waktunya kapan dipost itu postingan gan, dan yang lebih duluan ngepostnya sudah pasti itu adalah postingan yang original sedangkan yang belakangan adalah postingan yang copy paste atau plagiat dsb. Postingan original gak mungkin lah diganggu gugat sama pihak yang berwenang gan.

Oya untuk OP, dari kemaren-kemaren sih saya ingin menyarankan ini sebenarnya soalnya saya cukup terganggu dengan judulnya, yang benar itu katanya adalah plagiarisme bukan plagiatisme gan, mohon dikoreksi biar makin bagus ini thread hehe.
594  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it Okay? on: March 12, 2018, 08:48:38 PM
Thank you sir, and by the way here's one of my work... I know that I cant still add some image here but Ill be leaving the link below

As much as I would like to please your creativity,unfortunately your subject kinda annoys me.You don't really introduce someone into bitcoins and point them towards this forum's signature campaigns as a medium to earn bitcoins.This is what is wrong with every other idiot who happens to the forum in 2018.

Bitcoins can be purchased from exchanges and signature campaigns aren't for everybody.

After i take a look on OP's comic, i agree with Joel_Jantsen, very much. It is better if you make something about history of bitcoin, or technical thing about bitcoin, or trading about bitcoin, or basic things about bitcoin like wallet etc.
Pointing out bitcointalk.org as a place to make bitcoin is not a good thing, besides, this is a forum, and its function is to host people and community to talk and share abuot common things and for this forum it is about bitcoin. The making money part is only the bonus and not everyone can get that bonus.
595  Other / Meta / Re: Were sMerits being wasted ? on: March 12, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.
The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

I also not like the idea of these merit points being used for old posts. Another wrong trend is that if someone gives 5-10 merit points to a reply, we start seeing merits raining on such posts from other members.

It is a kind of appreciation to the content, why not? It is just the same thing if you gives appreciation to your country hero which already died in the past, or you dont agree to that kind of things too? And for your question, it is not a wrong trend, maybe your brain and knowledge just can not process how great the content of the post is. It is just the rules that great post attract merits.
596  Other / Meta / Re: Newb To Newbs: Gaining Merit Fast! on: March 12, 2018, 06:47:13 PM
where's the guide to earn merits as fast as possible? you just compiled everything merit related that had good replies which can be seen from the meta's page 1-5. i was totally deluded by your title, you could've just said comments about these good posts.

And the best part is that he did not even check if all those threads are open or not. He added those giveaways which are closed as well like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2843413.0 .

However, seeing that he is still a junior member, I still appreciate the time he took to compile the posts as one place. There is no way to gain merits fast. In my opinion, you should be fine with your current pace, there is no need to hurry about it. Gaining knowledge and Shari ideas with members should be your primary purpose here, merits will follow.

It is you guys that can not take the message he brought. With all that sources/thread you can not take any hints on how to make merit fast? i will tell you :
1. There are statistic about where people get merits, then, you should come after the merits there and post your quality posts there.
2. Look into any thread which the OP get a lot of merits, OP in this thread is saying that you can make thread like them too because idea to make contribution is everywhere and can be anything, you just can not read the message from OP here.
3. Some of the merit giveaway thread is closed? great then it means people already giveaway the merits and you can see all the merited posts and try to learn from all of that.

Still can not accept that is some way to gain merit fast or at least at a normal rate??? This is a forum man, sometimes people spoon feeding you, sometimes you need to take the hint.
597  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it Okay? on: March 12, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
Well Im planning to create a thread where the members can see my works here in this section?
So before on doing that I would like to ask if there will be anyone whose against it?
(This are just some fancy comic things that I will be creating. )
Thanks to this threads that gives me the motivation to do this


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2957836.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3108981.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066415.0

Is it okay to share you my piece of works?

Well sharing something good and has a value for the forum is not a bad things in fact it is encouraged by the community, so you can make a contribution and people can get something from you, but make sure it is a positive things to share.
And to be specific, what work is it? Maybe you can start by posting it and if your works dont belong in here, i guess it can be moved to other section by moderator.

I am watching.
598  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Jr. Member s.d Hero)[UPDATE] on: March 12, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
Sepertinya tidak semua orang bisa membuat post yang bagus dengan rangkaian kata yang menarik ditambah dengan kualitas post yang seperti orang inginkan. Dan saya adalah salah satunya. Saya rasa setiap orang pastinya memiliki standar kualitas yang berbeda dalam menilai sebuah post. Semoga saja sistem merit ini tidak membuat kesenjangan pada semua member.

Kesenjangan member yang mana dulu gan? Kalau membernya memang berbeda kualitas dan member yang kualitas rendah malah dapat merit yang banyak iya barulah itu kesenjangan. Tapi kalau member yang berkualitas dapat merit dibandingkan dengan member yang gak berkualitas yang gak dapat merit, tentu itu bukan suatu kesenjangan.
599  Other / Meta / Re: my account is banned on: March 12, 2018, 04:00:38 PM
Maybe this can be used proof of your spamming and breaking some rules activity

Mixed language in other board than the local board

for trading hell gampag easy gan ... we have to jelih only to melih coins whose price can go up and down ,,,, and maybe every exchange or xchange has a different fee ... and slalu dick gan or setting with the price you want ,,,, or automatically

for trading hell,, ente must know about the market that ente tau, for vip, it is very good for trading, tp for now there is a problem of price reduction for all coin, tp do not panic first all will return like beginners, and do not we fooled, hopefully you understand with my answer.

and there are lot of it, and not to mention all the multiple bounty post which used to report your work (you dont need to post a new post, just edit your first post), that, can be considered as a spam.
600  Other / Meta / Re: my account is banned on: March 12, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Spamming. Lots of your posts went to Trashcan and you even tried to translate some ANN into French. Remember? Don't be sad, I know you still have a Jr. Member account to play with.
How can you say that I still have a jr member, if I am wrong, is there any proof here.
There should be a warning for me

He should know that because he is moderator on your local board. I bet he knows all the people who comes from his country. And you must be think that you are smart and you can cheat the system out, but here you are. My suggestion is move on to your next account and dont make the same mistake.
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