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1561  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Mining Viable Anymore? on: December 10, 2013, 11:34:45 PM
You can absolutely make money mining alt coins. Instead of throwing lots of money at cloud mining, your best bet is to build a GPU miner for $1000-$2000 (or less). You can mine alt coins and then trade them up for BTC or fiat...or just sit on them and wait for them to increase in price. You can even sell off your hardware down the line and recoup some money. Something you also cant do with cloud mining.
This is precisely how I see it.

Choose ATI 7950 videocards if you still find them for decent price; reference, Sapphire or MSI Twin Frozr if you can (for the price, hash rate, modable, low power). 7970s or 280x are a bit better but more expensive. 7870s, 270x or 6950 if you can get them for 100€ or less.

I have now an additional Asrock 970 Extreme4 motherboard, a 6-core AMD FX 6100 CPU, a XFX Core 850W PSU and some cards. I can say they work.
Bump, just in case someone took my advice regarding the Ascrap motherboard. I had to ditch it due to random lockups. Replaced by a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining-Rig 3*HD7990 -- Problem -- Freeze after 10-30 minutes on: December 10, 2013, 11:27:06 PM
If you happen to have an Asrock 970 Extreme4 motherboard (or any Asrock) , get a better one like the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. Just like I had to do

http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/50970-asrock-970-extreme4-fx-8350-unstable-stock-settings.html
1563  Local / Portugal / Re: Alguém tem hardware para venda? on: December 10, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Só daqui por uns dias é que vou estar por Lisboa, mas upa!
1564  Local / Portugal / Re: Tranferir Bitcoins para conta bancaria, ajuda. on: December 10, 2013, 04:30:55 AM
Existe também a hipotese do okpay, mas as taxas de conversão de BTC para € são um bocado encolhidas  Roll Eyes
1565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Switzerland to vote on $2,800 monthly ‘basic income’ for adults on: December 09, 2013, 09:06:19 AM
Excuse my ignorance! What is a gypsy? Google images gives me women that looks like they are going to the Renaissance Fair.


https://www.google.com/search?q=gypsy&client=firefox-a&hs=2Fs&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=2SulUoLjO5HZoAS0-IGACQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=759


Gypsies are the descendents of refugees that came from India to Southeast Europe, when Islam did there the usual convert-or-die a few centuries ago.
1566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your view on shale gas exploration ? on: December 09, 2013, 09:02:26 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman
1) Do you agree with shale gas exploration in general?

In my opinion, shale gas exploration leads to irreversible environmental damage.  It is not economically viable either. We should rather invest in eco-friendly initiatives such as bio-diesel and cane-ethanol.
Agreed on the 1st and 2nd sentence, but biodiesel and ethanol haven't been eco-friendly, because some devastate rain forest to obtain the raw materials for those fuels
1567  Other / Off-topic / Re: BTC is still $1000 a unit in my fucking world.. on: December 09, 2013, 08:53:58 AM
$904 now. It will go back to $1000+  Smiley
1568  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Computer restarts after a few hours of mining on: December 09, 2013, 03:18:55 AM
The VRMs of that card may be very hot. Are they actively cooled? Check their temperatures with Gpu-Z
1569  Economy / Services / Re: BTCMiners "Cloud Hashing" | $8.50 USD per GH/s! on: December 08, 2013, 09:43:33 AM
I dumped 0.46 BTC into this.

Unless I drive my van from Portugal to KnC pickup location in the other corner of Europe, I'm definitely out of direct Bitcoin mining.
1570  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Stealing Programs!? on: December 08, 2013, 09:40:37 AM
I've seen that kind of shit for sale...  Roll Eyes
1571  Other / Off-topic / Re: Guys, it's almost Christmas! on: December 08, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
What I want for Christmas is a job that doesn't suck and doesn't screw people (I write data processing software for insurance business).

That bitcoin goes back to $1000+, so that both I pocket more and my Christmas donations to charitable organizations are more substantial
1572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suppressed technologies on: December 07, 2013, 06:16:51 AM
UFOs, our government has developed technologies with assistance of WW2-era German engineers.
Fixed  Smiley

Edit: See also if this doesn't raise a few eyebrows:
http://www.examiner.com/article/reagan-records-space-command-antigravity-fleet
Also this intriguing book in a peculiar style from a Texas engineer: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/pentagonaliens/pentagonaliens.htm
1573  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: when will btc stabilize? on: December 07, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
Let them become cheap again...

They are going down even more.

Sell everyone, SELL!  Tongue
1574  Other / Off-topic / Cheap dial-up access? on: December 07, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
If you are aware of an inexpensive 56k dial-up access, please PM me in the format:

Phone #: international prefix-number, e.g. 351-671515000
User:
Password:
Cost of connection:
Cost / minute:

Preferably from Portugal, Spain or other EU countries.
Thanks. Please no tangent replies... "oh why do you need dial-up in 2013?". Don't waste your time and mine. Thanks again
1575  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ''The End Is Nigh'' trolls and market speculation. on: December 07, 2013, 12:15:32 AM
Don't bet the farm on bitcoins and you will be fine.
1576  Economy / Lending / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin - Lending on: December 04, 2013, 02:08:31 AM
Your tirade about Sharia (and most of Islam) is obviously delusional crap, but you do have a point in denying loans to food speculators and similar financial criminals...
1577  Economy / Lending / Re: $5 loan (.006) on: December 04, 2013, 02:03:05 AM
sent .006 to 18KbQuoKninvjnD7NkfTcAyc4hH56rCzdt

thank you
Indeed. Thanks  Smiley
1578  Economy / Services / Re: BTCMiners "Cloud Hashing" | $8.50 USD per GH/s! on: December 01, 2013, 01:15:47 PM
The way I see it, he needs some help to succeed. He needed to go to the ER, his internet connection is failing, etc...

It's better for him and for us to work together instead of starting to panic and throw accusations. We would be scammed and lose our money, he would risk trouble with the law. It's a lose-lose to go full retard here, everybody knows this, so let's think it a little bit better
1579  Economy / Services / Re: BTCMiners "Cloud Hashing" | $8.50 USD per GH/s! on: December 01, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
What the hell is going on???

If the dude owes 31 BTC to someone else, what does it have to do with this thread?

Second, who's insane to grab $35k, buy 31 BTC at current market prices and pay now back the debt?? Obviously he will mine the fucking BTC, IF you give him a chance!!

otoh, of course it can be a scam, but that possibility was always there from the very beginning ...
1580  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 2.5K to spend, is buying 65nm 50Gh/s obsolete? on: December 01, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
That said, if you're going to purchase BFL hardware from ebay, or from who has in-hand, I guess the risk is similar to just another ebay purchase or dealing with a stranger. When I said BFL, I mean (pre-)ordering from them directly on their website
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