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1701  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do you think shorting of Bitcoins should be allowed? on: November 10, 2013, 01:06:40 PM
Allowed?  WTF?  How would you stop it?  You can do it on Bitfinex and other places.

After reading the post again I am even more baffled:  are you proposing that we should not be allowed to sell Bitcoins (go short)?  People should only be allowed to buy them?

...Bitcoins are at all time high prices now ... he would sell the Bitcoins ... and get cash.  Then, later, when the price of Bitcoins falls ... would buy back all the Bitcoins ... the dishonest owner would have made money

I sell high and buy back low all the time.  You don't want to allow that?

Sorry to not be nice.  This post is really, really bad.

Please add the choice  "One of the stupidest polls ever" so I can have a way to vote.
It is ok to be ignorant. What is not is insulting someone based on your ignorance.

Sell bitcoins = go short, when you OWN the damn coins. TradeFortress would "borrow" those coins from inputs.io. Can you grasp the subtle difference that makes you an ass for bashing the OP?
1702  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies, stay away from altcoins. please on: November 10, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
No offense, but the day that people started the ASICs arms race and killed GPUs for bitcoin mining, they fell from the top of their high horse. Yes, some alts are shitcoins, but you actually lost reason to complain when you pre-ordered your BFL or KnC.

Now, we agree that most alt-coins will not survive and people holding them for months, will become empty handed. However mining them and trading for BTC up to a week after being mined, is what was left for small/casual miners.

Further, people complain about wasting power with GPUs. Do you have an idea how much water, power, chemicals, capital, human work, etc... is wasted on making chips and bitcoin mining rigs that are not useful for anything else?
1703  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need some help with cgminer, runs once manually, then rejects its own config on: November 10, 2013, 12:32:19 PM
Oh, hold on, I'm not sure I understood ... Please post a screenshot of your cgminer window.

If you see ~3 Mh/s and it shows multiple lines with "Accepted ...", it's a tad low but still acceptable value for scrypt on your setup. Scrypt hashes tend to be ~1/1000 of SHA2 for the same cards.
1704  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need some help with cgminer, runs once manually, then rejects its own config on: November 10, 2013, 12:14:10 PM
Here's part of my cgminer.conf:

"intensity" : "20,17",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "7680,16384",  <- Use 16384 or see below
"shaders" : "1536,1536", <- Should be 1792 for you
"gpu-engine" : "800-900,700-790",
"gpu-fan" : "0-85,0-85",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500,1500",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0,0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0,0",
"gpu-vddc" : "1,0.9",
"temp-cutoff" : "78,78",
"temp-overheat" : "73,73",
"temp-target" : "68,68",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "120",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "10",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"scrypt" : true,
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1,W:192.168.2.101"
}


If it crashes/doesn't load/locks, etc..., better download pre-compiled .bin files, which btw are faster than default. Download from https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php?topic=6058.0 , unpack to the cgminer folder and choose the proper thread-concurrency value
1705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PSU recommendation for mining machine on: November 10, 2013, 09:30:55 AM
Maybe not. I toasted a 600W crap PSU with just a single graphics card. A Corsair 650W handles 2 cards without issues.

If the PSU can handle it, depends on the REAL(not claimed) Amperes provided by the 12V rail. You probably need up to 25A per card, not sure

In alternative or in addition you should undervolt the cards. You probably will need to hexedit and reflash the bios.
1706  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need some help with cgminer, runs once manually, then rejects its own config on: November 10, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
hehe... Welcome, and good hashing!

Make sure that the line that reads intensity has "13,13,13...." or "20,20,20..." or something in between. Whatever maximizes your hash rate without giving hardware errors.

You can further improve by figuring out a good ratio between the core and mem clocks. It's usually between 60 and 70%
1707  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What country are you guys from? on: November 10, 2013, 06:49:19 AM
Portugal
1708  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TradeFortress is a scammer. on: November 10, 2013, 05:59:41 AM
Ok, explain me one thing: did people that trusted TradeFortress with this ripple experiment, end up losing REAL BTC? Yes or no?
1709  Local / Portugal / Alguém tem hardware para venda? on: November 10, 2013, 04:47:51 AM
Estou interessado em saber condições para graficas ATI, FPGA ou ASIC.

Até 300€ por equipamento. Para entrega em mão em Lisboa e pagamento a dinheiro.

Indique marca, modelo, preço, consumo, hashrate

Propostas razoaveis, por favor  Wink Obrigado.
1710  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: free electricity - In what should i invest at moment? on: November 10, 2013, 04:27:46 AM
I think i will go for the Litecoin mining.
Whats the max GPU's i can have per computer?
Whats the best OS to install on the computers?
Do i need to spend a mouse,keyboard,lcd for each computer? Cant i make some sort of cloud for one computer?
You only need one single mouse, keyboard and monitor for all of them. You don't even need an hard-disk, an usb pen drive with Linux or CraPE (somewhere in this forum) will do. When set up, use a vnc server or remote desktop to login to the machines without needing to connect mouse/kb/monitor

Consider these ATI cards:
7950: 175€ - 200€,   650 Kh/s
6950(used): ~110€, 450 Kh/s
5850(used): ~60€, 400 Kh/s
7990: 520€ , 1200 Kh/s (bad €/Kh ratio, but higher density)

Offtopic: are you from Lisbon ?
1711  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is giving Bitstamp or Mt.Gox your information safe when verifying? on: November 10, 2013, 02:44:31 AM
Perhaps you could trade on this same forum, using escrow.
1712  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cheap USB block erupter on: November 09, 2013, 05:58:38 PM
So you started asking where to buy cheapest USB block erupter and ended begging for BTC ?

If you need some free BTC visit faucets...
Where is he begging for BTC?

I don't like that you say that I'm begging, this makes me upset. Sad I feel bad now.
I only want to learn things... I only want to learn how bitcoin works and if I can mine and would earn money I would give it to my mother anyway so she can buy fruit for us and other food.

Hope the other people don't want to hurt my feelings!
Oh lord! Understanding each other can be hard on writing and when people come from multiple backgrounds and are non-native English speakers.

I ask you: where am I assuming that you are begging? Sorry if this misunderstanding hurt your feelings. NOWHERE I was assuming that you were begging.

And to over1977v: where did you read that the OP was begging for BTC?

Nevermind...

1713  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: best cpuminer algorithm for intel i7-4770 ? on: November 09, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
With CPU, mine only CPU minable coins like primecoin

Sha256d and Scrypt coins are waste of electricity to mine with CPU
The primecoin boat has left too. Just because a coin has no competition from GPUs does not mean it is easy to get or is worth something.
1714  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: best cpuminer algorithm for intel i7-4770 ? on: November 09, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
thanks, in understand, that with this CPU its better to use a scrypt algorithm ?
As the algorithm isn't available on the Bitcoin Miner "cpuminer", i asume you tell me that its therefore better to use the CPU for mining other than Bitcoins with this algo.

i.e. with Litecoins as described here: http://cryptocur.com/litecoin/litecoin-mining/

If my asumption's right, thanks.
If i did misunderstand, please explain.

cheers,
Macki
Yes, with a CPU, you should mine at a pool that accepts the scrypt algorithm. From here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpuminer/, cpuminer supports scrypt (since it mentions litecoin).

You can mine whatever scrypt coin you like, trade it for bitcoins (e.g. at cryptsy.com) or not, or just point your miner to a pool that does the latter automatically. For a list of coins, look at coinchoose.com

As a starting point, register at https://hashco.ws or http://www.multipool.us. Leave the miner running for 2 or 3 days. Then evaluate if it is worthwhile the power usage, noise, heat, equipment degradation and hassle.
1715  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie here, all this cryptocurrency stuff looks awesome... on: November 09, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
Hi there.

Exchange your Nvidia GTX 650 for a good ATI. ATI videocards give you 5x-10x the rate of Nvidia for the same price point. Until then, use cudaminer software. See here: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

Dedicated mining hardware is always risky, with pre-orders, scams, delays, negative ROI and so on. At least, videocards have other purposes.
1716  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: best cpuminer algorithm for intel i7-4770 ? on: November 09, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
Hi there.

If I understand what you are asking, it is "scrypt", which is incompatible with all the others (phatk, poclbm, etc...). However it is the one that should be used for CPUs or videocards.

Select a mining pool that mines such scrypt coins, like one mining Litecoin, Feathercoin, Worldcoin or a pool like hashco.ws or multipool.us
1717  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: USB Block Erupters - Any chance to see them all ? on: November 09, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
Hi,

I'am mining with 22 usb block erupters.

All i can see in my BFG miner is 15, is there any chance to see all of them on one page ?

Best Regards,
Emzor

Dude, mining with those BE's are pretty much dead now.. :/
22 erupters ~= 6.7 Gh/s
1718  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: USB Block Erupters - Any chance to see them all ? on: November 09, 2013, 03:57:26 PM
Click the icon of the console window (top left), select "properties" and make sure it has more than 25 vertical lines. If it's not properties, it's the other option. Then restart bfgminer
1719  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need help with radeon hd 7950 on: November 09, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
Hi there!

Please post the configuration file
1720  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cheap USB block erupter on: November 09, 2013, 03:45:22 PM
So you started asking where to buy cheapest USB block erupter and ended begging for BTC ?

If you need some free BTC visit faucets...
Where is he begging for BTC?
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