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1121  Local / Treffen / Re: Berliner Bitcoiner [jeden ersten Do; 19:00; Room77 Gräfestr.77 Kreuzberg] on: September 14, 2013, 11:02:37 PM
keiner von den Berlinern da? nix für euch? http://openit.cc/
1122  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 14, 2013, 10:22:58 PM
Can someone clarify: simply visiting a forum page was enough, or opening an attachment?

did you mean because i linked to the forum in the OP? no, that link was safe, or what do you think of me  Angry

the exploit was in the site's messaging system when doing trades. That people can upload attachments there is a relatively new feature.
1123  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: neue Finanzkrise im Anmarsch? on: September 14, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
Ich weiß, dass es für Viele schon fast ein wenig abgedroschen wirkt, aber wie Goethe damals schon bemerkte,
die Medien, etc. wiederholen ihre Gebetsmühlen, von wegen "über unseren Verhältnissen bisher gelebt", über "wir müssen sparen" und "diese bösen, bösen Südeuropäer" leider viel häufiger, als die Wahrheit die Menschen erreicht.

Jo, und wenn "gespart" wird, wird von Rezession gejammert, und die Wirtschaft muss doch wachsen um jeden Preis.

Der Punkt ist der, dass rein technisch nichts dagegen spricht, ein "Schuldgeldsystem" zu machen. Letztlich spielt es keine Rolle, ob man einen Schuldschein nun gegen ein Stück Gold oder gegen eine (noch zu bringende) Dienstleistung eintauschen kann, das Geldsystem also von ersterem ("Goldstandard") oder eher von letzterem gedeckt ist.

Jegliches (Geld-) System läuft aber letztenendes auf das Vertrauens- oder Zuständigkeitsproblem hinaus, und genau da ist auch der Knackpunkt.

Das eigentliche Problem, was wir heute haben, sind die ganzen Verzerrungen durch das inflationierende Geldsystem, dass wegen der Kapitalflucht überall Blasen erzeugt, sowie durch die ganzen Bailouts, Haftungsbeschränkungen etc der "Sozialismus für die Reichen". Diesen muss man abschaffen. Das ist in etwa auch das Ziel, wenn die Reichensteuer diskutiert wird, aber das ist offensichtlich eine Symptombehandlung, die alles nur noch bürokratischer macht und nur weitere Schlupflöcher schafft. Nein, im Keim erstickt werden müssen diese risikofreien Möglichkeiten zur Kapitalvermehrung. Hier ist der Bereich, wo die "Austerität" ansetzen darf. Aber das wird natürlich nie passieren.
1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Please tell the truth on: September 14, 2013, 11:35:42 AM
[X] I have both buy and sell ads at localbitcoins.com with each 5-10% premium, and I trade all the time regardless of the current price.
1125  Other / Politics & Society / Investigation: Underground — And Illegal — NYC Dinner Parties on: September 13, 2013, 11:03:31 PM
 Shocked

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/11/cbs-2-investigation-underground-and-illegal-nyc-dinner-parties/

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NEW YORK (CBS 2) — As you sit down to dinner, this story illustrates eating out like you have never experienced before. We are talking about super-secret, illegal dining experiences hosted in homes.

CBS 2 investigative reporter Tamara Leitner went undercover to see firsthand how this underground world works.

[...]

un-re-gu-la-ted !!!!1!  Angry
1126  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: neue Finanzkrise im Anmarsch? on: September 13, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
Welch ein Zufall aber auch, wer hätte sich das bloß gedacht.  Roll Eyes
Während sich die Börserl der großen Masse, eher leerten als füllten, in den letzten Jahren, wuchs bei einigen Wenigen ihr Inhalt gewaltig an.

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/39/39888/1.html

na warum wohl... wir leben in einem Schuldgeldsystem, schon fast ein abgedroschenes Klischee, das immer wieder festzustellen. Geld wird immer mehr gedruckt, und des einen (Staats-) Soll ist des anderen Haben...
1127  Local / Presse / Re: Presseberichte / Bedeutsame Erwähnungen on: September 13, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
2013-09-13 netzwoche - Bitcoin-Experte wirbt in Zürich für digitales Geld
1128  Local / Presse / 2013-09-13 netzwoche - Bitcoin-Experte wirbt in Zürich für digitales Geld on: September 13, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
http://www.netzwoche.ch/de-CH/News/2013/09/13/Bitcoins-Experte-wirbt-in-Zuerich-fuer-digitales-Geld.aspx

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An der E-Commerce-Konferenz der Schweizer Informatik Gesellschaft diskutierten Exponenten des Online-Bankings aktuelle Lösungen. Der Bitcoin-Experte Jon Matonis skizzierte die Vorteile und Schattenseiten des digitalen Geldes. [...]
1129  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 13, 2013, 02:23:07 PM
Ideally, there would be no need to deposit funds into any website to do basic person to person trading. I never used the localbitcoins escrow system, if you meet in person it's not that important.

It enables in-person trading without requiring internet access at all, for neither buyer nor seller. All that's required is that seller can receive SMS.

In practice, many do have smartphones and transfer their coins directly though.

For online trading, escrow is pretty necessary in most cases though. That's why traders often have a few coins in their localbitcoins.com wallets.
1130  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 13, 2013, 02:16:12 PM
Der gute Falkvinge hat wohl grad mal wieder ein paar Coins verkauft.  Cheesy
1131  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fox TV and github on: September 13, 2013, 01:23:51 PM
horrible for OCD'ers  Cheesy

yup Fox Business is serious Business...

seems they're letting their interns design such info screens
1132  Local / Presse / Re: Presseberichte / Bedeutsame Erwähnungen on: September 13, 2013, 12:32:45 PM
http://www.titanic-magazin.de/news/titanic-wahlcheck-teil-84-5947/  Cheesy

grad die Piraten, schön wenn's so wär  Cool
1133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anarchism vs. Social Libertarianism: Hierarchies on: September 13, 2013, 11:12:03 AM
A true "anarchy" would probably look differently than anarcho-capitalists imagine, but it wouldn't be entirely "social" without hierarchies either. The truth would be somewhere inbetween I imagine, resembling syndicalism. There'd be free entrepreneurs (for the individualists) and independent worker co-ops.

Big "capitalist" "exploitative" factories would be impossible. Historically, workers went on strike, mutiny, and would take over the means of production. But it was always the legislation and police provided by the state that protected bosses in those scenarios. Economically speaking, this protection service has always been very cheap in a capitalist-corporatist system.

And if the "police" was private, well the "police" consists of "workers" too.

So if many places are organized more co-operatively, bosses would have a hard time to find cheap workforce.

Again, Mondragón is a good example of how things would look like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-obHJfTaQvw

There are technical hierarchies of course, and although they're largely organized co-operatively, there'd also be competition. All co-ops would have to keep up with the state of technology.

I've also long thought about the nature of "money" and I believe the misunderstanding and obsession about money comes from the monopoly of money that today is provided through the central banks. In a free world, there'd be probably a rich eco-system of different value systems (PMs, local currencies, crypto-currencies, reputation systems, "promises" and tokens issued by producers of goods and services, etc). And this will stop people from counting everything in USDs or the like in their minds, and they will realize that "value" can also be very personal things that you can't count.  Smiley
1134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Failed] Location for an anarchist country: Dogger Bank on: September 13, 2013, 10:55:24 AM
Sure you can buy land from countries, that's what most people do to build a house. I own land, but if I call it a country and decide to have my own laws on it, don't pay taxes for it anymore and build something on it that isn't approved by the municipality.

Theoretically, the question is all about the price. There ought to be a difference between buy and BUY. No, we don't really buy "land" from governments, we buy the right to build a house on it. So how much more would be the price to pay if you wanted to buy out off the sovereignty of a nation some piece of land ? If I'm harsh I'd say the price depends on the strength of the military you could provide to protect that land.  Lips sealed
1135  Other / Off-topic / Fox TV and github on: September 13, 2013, 10:28:19 AM


---via https://twitter.com/Stammy/status/378293744308461568/
---from http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2667694577001/writing-a-new-dictionary/
1136  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] LocalBitcoins.com - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: September 13, 2013, 09:42:54 AM
old forum software is old, can't grok those new hipster #! hashbang urls  Cheesy

anyway, staff is already over it by now.
1137  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 13, 2013, 08:18:01 AM
localbitcoins.com have optional 2FA but that goes only for logon, and not for withdrawals; you're already logged on when that happens.

a simple HTML with JavaScript that steals the current user's bitcoins from their on-site wallet.

over 1000 BTC stolen already.
https://blockchain.info/address/1EfEy1Ms6swbnfsL3VfLiY3asf9dhDCoCu
Most of those transactions date back to June or earlier.  Is the bug that old?

sorry, false report then it seems; although i believe the damage is way over 80 BTC if you skim over their forums.
1138  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 13, 2013, 12:43:54 AM
I hope this doesn't affect traders...

if you dare to take a glimpse into the forums right now... Rome is burning!
1139  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 13, 2013, 12:35:58 AM
LocalBitcoins isn't that where people actually meet in person  why are there bitcoins on the site?

To put them into the site's escrow for example. And the site features not only in-person trading but also various forms of online trading.
1140  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LocalBitcoins.com exploit! on: September 13, 2013, 12:18:06 AM
FAIL!

traders probably don't have their life savings in there, but they do have there what they need for their daily business
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