Can someone clarify: simply visiting a forum page was enough, or opening an attachment?
did you mean because i linked to the forum in the OP? no, that link was safe, or what do you think of me the exploit was in the site's messaging system when doing trades. That people can upload attachments there is a relatively new feature.
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Ich weiß, dass es für Viele schon fast ein wenig abgedroschen wirkt, aber wie Goethe damals schon bemerkte, die Medien, etc. wiederholen ihre Gebetsmühlen, von wegen "über unseren Verhältnissen bisher gelebt", über "wir müssen sparen" und "diese bösen, bösen Südeuropäer" leider viel häufiger, als die Wahrheit die Menschen erreicht.
Jo, und wenn "gespart" wird, wird von Rezession gejammert, und die Wirtschaft muss doch wachsen um jeden Preis. Der Punkt ist der, dass rein technisch nichts dagegen spricht, ein "Schuldgeldsystem" zu machen. Letztlich spielt es keine Rolle, ob man einen Schuldschein nun gegen ein Stück Gold oder gegen eine (noch zu bringende) Dienstleistung eintauschen kann, das Geldsystem also von ersterem ("Goldstandard") oder eher von letzterem gedeckt ist. Jegliches (Geld-) System läuft aber letztenendes auf das Vertrauens- oder Zuständigkeitsproblem hinaus, und genau da ist auch der Knackpunkt. Das eigentliche Problem, was wir heute haben, sind die ganzen Verzerrungen durch das inflationierende Geldsystem, dass wegen der Kapitalflucht überall Blasen erzeugt, sowie durch die ganzen Bailouts, Haftungsbeschränkungen etc der "Sozialismus für die Reichen". Diesen muss man abschaffen. Das ist in etwa auch das Ziel, wenn die Reichensteuer diskutiert wird, aber das ist offensichtlich eine Symptombehandlung, die alles nur noch bürokratischer macht und nur weitere Schlupflöcher schafft. Nein, im Keim erstickt werden müssen diese risikofreien Möglichkeiten zur Kapitalvermehrung. Hier ist der Bereich, wo die "Austerität" ansetzen darf. Aber das wird natürlich nie passieren.
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[X] I have both buy and sell ads at localbitcoins.com with each 5-10% premium, and I trade all the time regardless of the current price.
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Welch ein Zufall aber auch, wer hätte sich das bloß gedacht. Während sich die Börserl der großen Masse, eher leerten als füllten, in den letzten Jahren, wuchs bei einigen Wenigen ihr Inhalt gewaltig an. http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/39/39888/1.htmlna warum wohl... wir leben in einem Schuldgeldsystem, schon fast ein abgedroschenes Klischee, das immer wieder festzustellen. Geld wird immer mehr gedruckt, und des einen (Staats-) Soll ist des anderen Haben...
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Ideally, there would be no need to deposit funds into any website to do basic person to person trading. I never used the localbitcoins escrow system, if you meet in person it's not that important.
It enables in-person trading without requiring internet access at all, for neither buyer nor seller. All that's required is that seller can receive SMS. In practice, many do have smartphones and transfer their coins directly though. For online trading, escrow is pretty necessary in most cases though. That's why traders often have a few coins in their localbitcoins.com wallets.
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Der gute Falkvinge hat wohl grad mal wieder ein paar Coins verkauft.
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horrible for OCD'ers yup Fox Business is serious Business... seems they're letting their interns design such info screens
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A true "anarchy" would probably look differently than anarcho-capitalists imagine, but it wouldn't be entirely "social" without hierarchies either. The truth would be somewhere inbetween I imagine, resembling syndicalism. There'd be free entrepreneurs (for the individualists) and independent worker co-ops. Big "capitalist" "exploitative" factories would be impossible. Historically, workers went on strike, mutiny, and would take over the means of production. But it was always the legislation and police provided by the state that protected bosses in those scenarios. Economically speaking, this protection service has always been very cheap in a capitalist-corporatist system. And if the "police" was private, well the "police" consists of "workers" too. So if many places are organized more co-operatively, bosses would have a hard time to find cheap workforce. Again, Mondragón is a good example of how things would look like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-obHJfTaQvwThere are technical hierarchies of course, and although they're largely organized co-operatively, there'd also be competition. All co-ops would have to keep up with the state of technology. I've also long thought about the nature of "money" and I believe the misunderstanding and obsession about money comes from the monopoly of money that today is provided through the central banks. In a free world, there'd be probably a rich eco-system of different value systems (PMs, local currencies, crypto-currencies, reputation systems, "promises" and tokens issued by producers of goods and services, etc). And this will stop people from counting everything in USDs or the like in their minds, and they will realize that "value" can also be very personal things that you can't count.
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Sure you can buy land from countries, that's what most people do to build a house. I own land, but if I call it a country and decide to have my own laws on it, don't pay taxes for it anymore and build something on it that isn't approved by the municipality.
Theoretically, the question is all about the price. There ought to be a difference between buy and BUY. No, we don't really buy "land" from governments, we buy the right to build a house on it. So how much more would be the price to pay if you wanted to buy out off the sovereignty of a nation some piece of land ? If I'm harsh I'd say the price depends on the strength of the military you could provide to protect that land.
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old forum software is old, can't grok those new hipster #! hashbang urls anyway, staff is already over it by now.
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localbitcoins.com have optional 2FA but that goes only for logon, and not for withdrawals; you're already logged on when that happens. Most of those transactions date back to June or earlier. Is the bug that old? sorry, false report then it seems; although i believe the damage is way over 80 BTC if you skim over their forums.
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I hope this doesn't affect traders...
if you dare to take a glimpse into the forums right now... Rome is burning!
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LocalBitcoins isn't that where people actually meet in person why are there bitcoins on the site?
To put them into the site's escrow for example. And the site features not only in-person trading but also various forms of online trading.
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FAIL!
traders probably don't have their life savings in there, but they do have there what they need for their daily business
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