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1361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 19, 2014, 09:58:45 AM
I believe the logo must be totally simple and remarkable, that is easy to remember and reproduce somewhere else. I think the logo should be just a letter D with some high tech font and maybe 1 or 2 vertical line(s). The logo must be visible in a very small size, must be seen nice on any background. What you guys have shown is pretty good and will be useful, but not as a logo of a new currency.


I tend to agree. I'll put my money where my mouth is and offer 200DRK for something that is professional and powerful... if it's awe-inspiring 300DRK. Let's look at this from a very fresh new prospective.  Anything kitchey or gimmicky is may be appropriate for doge(eek) of cat or whatever awful plethora of crap coins that exist.  is there a reason why we are having to stick with this tacky coin shaped logo...?   Q2C has a great design and fresh(don't know that crypto just speaking about the design). IMHO this coin should embody the professional and sophistication of something that is worthy of doing my most trusted and sensitive not only personal but corporate transactions. Transactions such as buying real-estate, equipment to transferring wealth of your families estate type the next generation.
1362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 19, 2014, 03:33:35 AM
IMO the #1 thing that darkcoin requires is a good and objective wikipedia entry, thus people can google darkcoin and find all about it right there. Right now google throws much irrelevant crap when one writes darkcoin (this can be different depending your area, browser history etc) and that can be rectified by a wiki entry that will be the #1 result (after the page is created and indexed).

As I said earlier the best way to promote something is to let others discover it instead of promoting it to them (which creates the reverse psychological effect of "they are trying to scam me") but in our time this means they have to google it. And googling darkcoin is problematic without a wiki entry.

+1

We need more hard information & genuine press; less cheap SEO tactics that make people think they're being scammed. The latter is what the pump & dump coins do, and it's why people don't take them seriously.

One thing that's desperately needed IMO is for someone with writing experience (I mean proper writing experience, not SEO shilling experience) to write copy for the official website.

Agree. It needs to look more like https://bitcoin.org/en/ with background, how to, etc.

 I agree, If someone/group wants to take on building the website, feel free to contact me: internetape@me.com

 Now we want someone that cares, to build a nice site, not just someone that THINKS they can build a nice site. Send me links to other site YOU have built and would like someone that can be technical and also be able to explain what a Cryptocoin is to someone that has never heard of them.



 We can take donations for the website developer, I will put up 100DRK and eduffield will match the 100DRK.

lol.  I just mentioned that in my last post.  I'll even up the bounty by another 100drk
1363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 19, 2014, 03:26:34 AM
IMO the #1 thing that darkcoin requires is a good and objective wikipedia entry, thus people can google darkcoin and find all about it right there. Right now google throws much irrelevant crap when one writes darkcoin (this can be different depending your area, browser history etc) and that can be rectified by a wiki entry that will be the #1 result (after the page is created and indexed).

As I said earlier the best way to promote something is to let others discover it instead of promoting it to them (which creates the reverse psychological effect of "they are trying to scam me") but in our time this means they have to google it. And googling darkcoin is problematic without a wiki entry.

+1

We need more hard information & genuine press; less cheap SEO tactics that make people think they're being scammed. The latter is what the pump & dump coins do, and it's why people don't take them seriously.

One thing that's desperately needed IMO is for someone with writing experience (I mean proper writing experience, not SEO shilling experience) to write copy for the official website.

Agree. It needs to look more like https://bitcoin.org/en/ with background, how to, etc.

Simplicity and clarity.   I have to admit that I'm not a fan of the current logo either.  It just doesn't portrait a very professional image. Maybe we should a have a contest to see who can design a unique logo that is a bit more corporate in its appearance.  I'd put up 100drk for that to start with.  eduffield no disrespect meant in providing some ideas.
1364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 19, 2014, 03:14:14 AM
IMO the #1 thing that darkcoin requires is a good and objective wikipedia entry, thus people can google darkcoin and find all about it right there. Right now google throws much irrelevant crap when one writes darkcoin (this can be different depending your area, browser history etc) and that can be rectified by a wiki entry that will be the #1 result (after the page is created and indexed).

As I said earlier the best way to promote something is to let others discover it instead of promoting it to them (which creates the reverse psychological effect of "they are trying to scam me") but in our time this means they have to google it. And googling darkcoin is problematic without a wiki entry.

+1

We need more hard information & genuine press; less cheap SEO tactics that make people think they're being scammed. The latter is what the pump & dump coins do, and it's why people don't take them seriously.

One thing that's desperately needed IMO is for someone with writing experience (I mean proper writing experience, not SEO shilling experience) to write copy for the official website.

I'd love to work on that one.   I've done a fair of marketing copy for my own businesses.  something that is clear,  technical but a bit more in the vain of "financial"  institution in its feel.  IMHO we should probably steer away from formage animated gifs and other low brow gimmicks, and reflect a far more corporate and professional image that reflects the hard work of the dev.  I do not wish to over step my bounds with our devs on this matter so some direction would help in forming the outline for the copy.  In our brand standard there should a clear and concise message that reflects the values of this currency,  whatever they may be.
1365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 17, 2014, 03:51:56 AM
if DarkSend works without any flaws, then DarkCoin will be better than Bitcoin. before all the other coins copy-and-paste the DarkSend code, we should really establish DarkCoin as the world's main crypto-currency. we need professional-looking user-friendly phone apps, paper wallets, video tutorials, promotional literature like brochures, ads, etc. and good social media presence. we need it to be totally simple and straight-forward for merchants and retailers to accept DRK and store it securely. and it would be nice to get DarkCoin on CoinMKT.com where you can buy and sell them for $USD with money orders or bank transfers.

actually, for a long time I've been enthusiastic about Megacoin, and I still am. but now that Eduffield and InternetApe are about to achieve the implementation of anonymity in DarkCoin's core protocol, I'm shifting a lot of my focus here now.

I made this video for Megacoin. (it was a LOT of work!) if I get enough extra time, I'd be willing to make some similar videos to promote DarkCoin once DarkSend is successfully implemented.




if DarkSend source is openly given out to the other coins, who knows if DarkCoin would benefit that much from having been the original anonymous coin, or if other coins with more of a head-start would just stay in the lead when they also implement it.

thinking about it now, maybe DarkSend's source code should be kept secret for quite a while. eventually it will need to be released of course, but so long as DarkCoin is the only anonymous coin, it will be better money than Bitcoin and will get adopted by the whole world. if the source is kept secret, I think DarkCoin price could go up to thousands of dollars per 1 DRK this year, adoption could spread like a wildfire, and, unlike Bitcoin, DarkCoin would be essentially unregulatable. transactions with DarkSend can't be easily tracked, they're just like physical private cash transactions.

financial anonymity is an inevitability. it's ultimately what everyone wants. outlawing and prohibiting this technology would be against the will of the people, just like alcohol prohibition was. eventually it just can't be stopped.

closed-source would require the world to trust DarkCoin's developers, but it's obviously in the devs' interests to develop a functional anonymous coin that's totally fair and square, especially since the code will eventually be released anyway. why would they try to rig it if that would just destroy the coin's value?

trusting DarkSend code seems to me like less of a stretch than trusting some of these Bitcoin and alt-coin exchanges with your real coins.

-onetime

I think your right.  About taking over bitcoin, a bit lofty.  But...how i've broken it up in my mind is: BTC as the holder of value, LTC ummm not sold on it....but its very mature, then DRK for financial transactions in real estate, financial institutions and bigger ticket items.(makes you think why the need for BTC)...  then something like FST for everyday fast small value transactions.  IMHO.

like to see what eduffield or internetape think about keeping this source closed longer?
1366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 17, 2014, 02:57:38 AM
Im still waiting for hazard to show up, it's not truly an altcoin thread until he starts his trolling.

I am also wondering what a nice community this coin has. No "scamcoin" or "dead coin" trolls here.

They dont know it exists yet, trust me, theyre coming.

YUP!  That they are...I'll have my fire extinguisher ready for the flamers!
1367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 17, 2014, 01:20:31 AM
Funny that you would say that...it was my first thoughts as well!  Using that ideology...group and myself are putting together the capital to start a small alt currency exchange with that exact thought process!  Being in Canada...I think it would be great that you could go to a brick and mortar office and meet the people that handle your exchanges & money...I think that is super important.  You can keep your financial affairs private...but those that handle your funds should always be accessable.... I have the beginings of a great team already that have done several banking institutional sites with ISO 9362 standards.  Missing is someone/peeps to create a great front end and logistics for the actual exchange.  Any thoughts on how this could be looked at would be great.

Your best bet for getting an exchange up & running quickly/cheaply would be to fork buttercoin:

https://github.com/buttercoin/buttercoin

It's an open-source crypto exchange.

Thanks.  It may sound a bit jammy that this site has inspired me.  It would be woefully naive of me or anyone embarking on such a task in establishing an alto exchange given the post-Mt. Gox environment to take the responsibility of others money, lifely hood and financial well being without the most critical attention to detail.  Mt. Gox is just the tip of the iceburg for what will surely be the continuation of larger hacking and system attacks.  The shear monumental task of trying to mitigate what the "Dark" (pun intended) forces of human greed and villainous nature can never be underestimated. Thus why really DarkCoin must be made...to protect ourselves from those that would strife to strip us our "property".  The building of an exchange must take these realities to heart.  I'm wondering if something like this could be partially funded by crowd sourcing?  
1368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 16, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
LOL, hopefully.  Well, I dunno, I think this one is special.  I read up on stuff every night before bed, and look especially for negative reports on crypto currencies and I have a good feeling here.  I do look at other coins, and most of them I don't like at all.  Nxt, Frei (with demurrage?)  No thanks.  I don't trust the first and don't like artificial manipulation of the second.  I like a free market.  These may be new concepts and it's good that lots of things are being tried, but it's manipulation that we're trying to get away from in our country currencies. 

So I'll stay here Smiley

its amazing with all these alt coins, that we stumble upon one, that seems like its not drawing that much attention, but you get a good feel, because of several things, first off, there is no premine... so you think to yourself, well, this is a dev that doesnt want to just dump it, when he can get a good price for it, second thing, ohh.. look, he is using his normal user name, not some name like *coin or what not... later on, the dev starts asking to buy coins, now you know, he has great plans for it, and is putting his money where his mouth is :-)

Funny that you would say that...it was my first thoughts as well!  Using that ideology...group and myself are putting together the capital to start a small alt currency exchange with that exact thought process!  Being in Canada...I think it would be great that you could go to a brick and mortar office and meet the people that handle your exchanges & money...I think that is super important.  You can keep your financial affairs private...but those that handle your funds should always be accessable.... I have the beginings of a great team already that have done several banking institutional sites with ISO 9362 standards.  Missing is someone/peeps to create a great front end and logistics for the actual exchange.  Any thoughts on how this could be looked at would be great.
1369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 16, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
You  know, my husband and I were laying in bed late one night with our touchpads and he read to me an article on silk road, they'd just been arrested.  so we thought Hummm, we don't really know about bitcoin... what's it all about?  We started reading things, got out of bed and I started putzing about with a bitcoin wallet, tried to figure out how to mine, etc... we went to sleep even later, and continued to try and understand how it all worked.  After about 3 or 4 days of that, we thought, oh, we should be looking at some new coins, it seems if you get in on the ground floor, and you catch a good one, you could make a lot of valuable coins.  So we started looking at what was coming up.  My husband saw this coin, and said, we should try it.  It was opening the next day, so I was ready, but didn't know what the heck I was doing really.  So I got on the band wagon wet behind the ears, and struggled to figure out what was going on.  I don't think I ever posted in the beginning, just struggled through by myself though other people were asking good questions.  Anyway, I only had my two machines, and it wasn't until last week I ventured VPC's, and only this weekend where I'm loading up on them.  So, I didn't make many due to my caution, though I did make some, and it's been a really great experience.

Who would have known, my first try at joining a fledgling coin would end up being such a fantastic coin!  Since then, I've learned so much, it's amazing!  And I have what I truly believe will be the most important coin around.  Finally, we did something right!

Thank you Eduffield.  In life, there is a lot of luck, and then there is a bit of moving on something when it presents itself, so you do have to take a leap of faith and JUST DO IT as Michael Jordan's ads used to say.  Thanks for the luck, the dedication, the idea, and everything!

And thanks to my hubby for seeing Xcoin just before launch!  LOL

Someday you'll hear people talking "Person A: I was into DarkCoin when it was called XCoin.  Person B: Oh wow!"

Well, hopefully. haha

Oh sweet Jesus. Crypto currency hipsters are here already. "I knew dark coin before it was cool"


hahahahahaha....LMOAF!!!!!!  that put the first big belly laugh I've had in a long time.  One forgets how good it feels to have a good laugh sometimes...I know feelings aren't based on facts or science, but its served me well in the last 20 years...right on guys keeping rocking!  Smiley
1370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | DarkSend Anonymous Technology Pre-Alpha Launch on: February 15, 2014, 11:07:39 PM

Hi InternetApe.  Please let me know as soon as you have a windows version for me to test out.  I'm around the next 48 hours!  PM me if you wish.  Thanks
1371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (pre-alpha) | CPU only | KGW | ASIC Resistant on: February 11, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
It is possible that full-cpu or full-gpu approach is wrong for maximizing mining output for this coin. I think it may require a hybrid mining solution (GPGPU) where some tasks are better dealt by the CPU and some are handed over to the GPU, either through opencl or cuda.
I think this is something that needs to looked at and addressed.  There should be rules now while this is new and differentiate this in every way and angle vs other coins.  GPGPU is one way...I'll leave this to those more knowledgeable then I but I think we stand to gain much by setting those parameters in stone now.  IMHO...
1372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | CPU only | NO PREMINE on: February 11, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
And now, how about collecting a good hefty bounty for a working effective GPU miner? I'd put down up to 1000 DRK - not much but if many people donate it'll build up.

If more people are interested I could work on GPU miner for a bounty. I already have something more or less working (pools are accepting shares, also solo-mined one block this night with it), but it's still very slow (nearly 2 MH/s on Radeon R9 290). Unfortunately I can't promise it will get much faster, still working on possible optimizations.

I'd been in to donating for that for sure.  Have been wondering why that hasn't happened yet.  I'll check back in a bit and see what you thinking for a bounty.
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