yup.   one of the major things is getting a clean,  new wallet UI that is less techy.   The interface needs to be dummy simple.   for example there should only be 2 choices.. anonymous (darksend)  or non anon.  The whole  process and application must be far FAR simpler... no command line,   no config file etc erc... and that is shy my friends its called a "release candidate".   This is where retailer's like me are going to step in and now we are going to demand simplification.   i need my counter staff,  sales team and our restaurant side staff to be able to use this.... so im going to start piping up,  Darklord... lets work on this together... UI needs  serious make over.    for all you dip shits saying crypto is dead.... give your head a shake and get lost... you wouldn't be here wasting ur time on here.... this is far from being over... this is just beginning!

Well, I hope you're right mate.

The problem is that these people are arrogant and refuse to make concessions for reality.

How long was BTC developed and conceptualized in total secrecy? How long did Satoshi keep it entirely to himself?

DRK is being conceived in the open. We're observing with DRK the portions where even other current shitcoin clones are kept entirely under wraps.

We're seeing more of the development cycle in DRK than has ever been seen in any other crypto, ever. The problem is that most people are too stupid to realize that "launch" for everything else they've seen, and "launch" for DRK are NOT at ALL the same starting point.

The code may be closed, but the entire project isn't; as has always been the case before, and even currently with imitators. It's not just for the sake of stopping copypasta bullshit, but the fact that it's just not ready to be open sourced. We're seeing the pre-launch stuff that no one ever sees. We've been given a glimpse into a process historically kept entirely under wraps. And people are complaining that it isn't Open Source? The problem with these people is that they fail to grasp the concept, or they do in fact know better, but are using the fact that most people do not to push their agenda. The parties opting-out of DRK becasue it is "closed source" are only showing their hand in pimping their own pet shitcoins.

The bottom line is that no other coin has had open source code at the point of inception. No other coin has had a development process that anyone even knew about! DRK has let the community in on part of that and so the ignorant dicks complain that they didn't get everything while ignoring the reality that it's more than they ever got from any other coin in this stage of development.

When it's ready to be Open Sourced, it will be. Just like everything else. The only difference is that Evan let the world look through the window early, so they ignorantly presumed it was that far along when it was not. Now they complain that it's not open source at a stage when nothing else ever was, either...

On the other hand there are lots of smart people staying away from darkcoin who normally love privacy and anonymity. People like Andreas Antonop, Taaki even Gmaxwell. Personally, I think the darkcoin code works and is bloody brilliant but the closed source nature is driving talent away. Also, you guys are going to hate me for saying this but the name divides. Maybe that's what you guys want and I'm not bothered by it but uninformed people will tend to assume sinister motives simply because of the word dark. Ok, some of you will say we don't care; let Evan finish coding and we'll stick with the name. In that case, we can't complain about the current price. And I know many of you don't care about price. But it all adds up.

I agree...I think with time people can get over the Darkcoin name...wouldn't have been my first choice for a world anon currency, but it is unique and it is a statement.  I have this with my own winery name...I picked something completely out of the ordinary- Misconduct Wine Co.  and we now have a growing cult following in high end restuarants and select stores.  In the snoddy world of wine...it took alot of time.  But everyone remembers it and gets what we are about.  There is still 50% of the old guard wine consumers that flip their nose up...but today we had one of the top private wine collectors come in and rant and wave about our wines!  Time....friends time.  Evan knows what he is doing...

I sympathize for his job, as he is not reviewing static code but rather something that is constantly changing / evolving / reprogrammed to new functionality. You can't really rubber stamp if you have to face this (otherwise positive) problem.


Crypto-traders, buyers, etc do not usually understand technical concepts, not necessarily because they are stupid, but because they might lack the knowledge to properly evaluate stuff.

1. We've seen that in "complex" coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637645 (read post #2 and post #9 by me)

2. We've seen that in the anonymous market: a lot of people were unable to properly evaluate the worthiness of certain coins in the marketplace. People were getting excited by vapor, believing FUD as truth, claiming scummy P&Ds are innovative anonymous coins, equating DRK being trustless and decentralized with other trusted and centralized solutions, not understanding the difference between actual coins that can be used versus proof-of-concept coins etc etc.

yeah true....the masses will never completely or even remotely brace crypto....

Yeah...we've been talking about that...my thoughts are there is a seed change happening in some of the bigger investors and initial investors.  I have several friends that have been playing out this game now for 5 years and are frankly burnt out....It seems instead of the road forward being clearer, its become cloudier in some ways.  I think the biggest thing we need to work on...and it has to start with BTC is grow the acceptance of this ecosystem.  BTC must/has to succeed, tho I'm sure there are those that would disagree...  We can't have businesses...like mine for example always wanting to change BTC or any coin for fiet.  This is are single biggest challenge.  Neutrino, is has very interesting concept up their sleeve, and I've video chatted with them several times a few months back, I wouldn't dismiss them so easily.  They have had some very successful ventures in the past and have a great base, although small, around them.   We'll see.  Its interesting times... and I think the whole crypto community should band together to promote this to the masses.  Our in fighting has collateral damage to those outside of our community.  Its hurting us by not painting a positive picture of the ecosystem.  It sucks because there are so many bad operators out there, that we all get jaded.  But folks...we need each other...we need to promote Crypto coin to the masses.  I'm not sure how we are going to bridge our in fighting.  no clue.

I agree it is. A release candidate and therefore classified usually as beta

^^ This 100%.

Wait until v1.0 before being too critical.

As good as can be expected.  It's been brutal for most cryptocurrencies lately.

I hope everyone understands RC4 HAS NOT LAUNCHED YET... its out in spork mode. It is meant to be this way. Roll out RC4 to the adventurour to play with and report bugs "large scale" - which are just little pestering things and nothing major.

 No one need to update unless they dont want to. Except pools if they dont want orphaned blocks when the fork is set.

end of story

first make it work. Then make it work better.

oh boy and here comes the peanut gallery!