Now there's a problem. Probably the biggest obstacle to recovery as well.
There is no recovery the way you want to recover the process. As I said to you, I fully understand you want to salvage the operation, but once a crime was committed it is not possible to just move on. It just can't work that way. First the fraudsters should return the money to the investors, and then you will have many options how to progress with the Bitbay project - even you can continue working with David (until he is jailed) if you think he is an honest individual -, but you can't ignore the fact that many naive investors have been the victim of this crime and first they must be compensated. Not only common sense and moral dictate this, but this is the interest of all of us who has anything to do with digital currencies. Actually this is pretty much the last nail in a coffin that has been solidly built by crooks such as Bob and Ryan, Prometheus (that still is uncovered and in full operation), his face, Dan Metcalf, and a few others. Liquidity has dried up completely -they took it all- and the last available went to Ethereum and the SuperNet. There's no money to be stolen so -sorry Bob but that record-breaker you and Ryan are planning for April? Not gonna happen, ok?-, the gig is up for all these MF scammers. And Alts will slowly disappear while people will go back to Bitcoin, which will flourish in 2015 and beyond. The nightmare is pretty much over. And it ain't coming back. |
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I delivered the smart contracting wallet. And I plan on continuing to deliver. This thread is a paid FUD thread. You are a Hero member, this should be apparent to you.
Now, you are disrespectful not only to me who opened this thread but to those members of the community who are quite rightly concerned about the level of scam and fraud in crypto. If you read the OP you will see this thread was opened in the very firsts days of the ICO, because - just like many community members - I understood that the Bitbay operation is a scam: there is no legitimate team behind the operation but P&D guys, there is no business plan and consequently the raised fund will not be used for development but will be used for personal purposes. It is clear by now from your own admissions and Bob's logs that not a legitimate team organized this project but a mob, there is no business plan whatsoever as the main guy is Steven Dai and he never had a legitimate business before and therefore the presented "business plan" that he will take on eBay is as much fraudulent as pretty much all elements of the Bitbay project are and the raised fund was shared between the organizers of the project instead of using it for development. You have acknowledged Bitbay was a scam, Bob has acknowledged it was a scam and even your biggest fanboys (like this decentralised boy) say in this thread that they have been victim of a fraud ... but you come here and have the stupidity, arrogance and self assured idiocy in believing in your own ill-driven truth to post that " this thread is a paid FUD thread". Even Bob came through, he posted the logs and he posted a BTC address that his money was forwarded to. Despite many requests in this and other threads from the community you refuse to post the requested details (I am not going to repeat you know what was requested). You are the tough guy, you are posting all over the places that you are untouchable and that law enforcement won't act upon complaints - in the meantime you are still hiding the details and refusing to disclose the requested information. In the meantime, (despite you were equally active and deceiving in the scam as your partners were) you put all the blame on Bob & Gecko. You started this project with Chinese mobsters, Steven and Lin, and then you were hiding the whole fraud for weeks while investors kept investing into the biggest scam of the year. However, you still not only refusing to comply with the request of the community and assist us with the data so we can work with law enforcement more effectively ... no, you don't do that (what even Bob did) ... but accusing us that we are paid FUDsters. I said David a few days ago, I had enough from you. I will see you before you will be jailed and we will have a chat who is the paid FUDster. I personally am more than willing to BECOME paid. So Bob, if you are reading -as I know you are, piece of shit-, send a couple hundred of those BTC you scammed here since, apparently I am doing such a good job for you that this idiot is even convinced I am you -among other things I am way more handsome than you will ever dream to be since faces reflect personalities and you truly look like the rat you are while I look more like Han Solo, or Batman-. I believe I have earned them 200... |
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Finally -and only after having littered many threads with amazingly stupid posts- digicidal seems to have accepted the reality of things here after being in denial for weeks.
Better late than never I guess!
Yeah, it's really too bad you're such a ridiculous troll. If you hadn't been all over IE's jock for so long defending his numerous obvious shenanigans in scam after scam with your lunacy and mindless vitriol - even long after he admitted to it plainly - then I might have actually listened to you. Of course, I've seen all your posts... so don't think you're somehow immune to getting vocally behind some really stupid and shady shit yourself.  You express yourself very poorly and I have difficulty understanding what your ramblings are about, not to mention the fact that you seem -if I understand it correctly- intent on somehow discrediting me for either being a bagholder than did not buy in at 500 satoshis or a burned trader that was let hanging... I don't know, very confusing. Look, punk, I have been in this for a long time (if the longest is 2 months, of course- and made a ton of money in it. I believed in it the moment I went in through the beautiful logo. Supported, traded it, pumped it and told all my friends about it. You, little punk, are greedily looking at making a few cents manipulating the market. I am looking at defending a coin that can not just survive but thrive all the way to 1=1.
Don't even pretend to be on the same level, ok?
Now it seems like those BC days when you were one of the largest cheerleaders are gone... maybe didn't get out enough at the top to buy back cheaper after the fallout? Oh and remember SPA?  How about that KNC group buy? Yes pathetic idiot, I was quite a supporter of BC initially... until I discovered the scam that it was, denounced it and proclaim,ed that it was going to lose 90% of its value (it was then above 50k sat) and eventually die. I discovered and wrote amply about it, the manipulation that was taking place there with the full complicity of the dev team, everyone included, no exceptions and perpetrated by the group I named The Black Hand. It's all over these threads and, in some detail -and contributions by some of the ex-members of the dev team- on my WALL OF SHAME, also on these boards. That's what honest, normal people do when they are aware of scams. Like this one. Regardless of interests. Oh I know you cannot possibly understand even the concept, that's just the way you are wired, but it is like that. So simple. As for IE, I put him on THE WALL OF SHAME for his peculiar handling of the so called Wall Street event, which I opposed completely from the get go. The guy does very idiotic things on account of his uncontrolable ego and his victim complex by which there are always excuses that impede him to assume responsibility for what he does -or allows others to do, on his name- wrong. But I have to call it like it is and, although a public manipulator -quite different from scummy Bob and Ryan or Prometheus or others like those-, he has no scammed anyone. I don't give a fuck about the guy, too many character flaws, but what's true is true. And I don't give a fuck either about you or anyone else putting any or all credibility on me, up to you and up yours, actually, in your particular instance. But the trail is there for the interested parties to follow and decide. You acted your usual stupid self, for weeks, while you were being told -by me and others- why this was an obvious scam. It doesn't matter. In true IE fashion, you choose to blame how I said it for you to not believe it. More power to you and I hope you loss in direct proportion with the lesson you have been taught. More are coming, I am pretty sure. Of course I remember SPA. You or others, hopefully saved some money by not investing on such display of incompetence, fully denounced by me from the get go, in both Spanish and English. It is posted here, anyone can check it. It is still a monument of incompetence that will never be worth shit. Like you. As for the KNC miner, that idea went off the wall the moment I found out that company was associated with an individual accused of pedophilia in the US, but it was a good idea at the time... if only they delivered on their promises, which I don't believe they did BUT have done in the past and made a small fortune for those who did similar things to the proposed acquisition. Was anything wrong or shady in any way on that? |
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Everyone, stop using the wallet immediately. Barrabas IS Bob (from the unedited chat history that bob posted on bitcointalk from the wrong account)
Barrabas was warning of a back door.
Everyone stop using that client, neither that Bitbayd/Smart contract OR the Bitbay-Qt. Those were built by his coin dev flubber. We cannot trust any more links, this thread, nothing at all to do with the old source.
We will be doing a new build of the wallet. Unless that build comes from me, dont use it.
Yep, as I told you a few days ago in fact, THEY have your backdoor. Have had it since the beginning. But besides a scammer and a Turd, you are a total idiot and incompetent. At this point, idiot, pretending absurdities like this -and old and stupid trick, by the way, that never ever works-, is just plain desperation and progression of your pathological liar condition. I have a HISTORY, for all to see. A history of decrying the existence of sub-humans like Bob and Ryan... and you. Quite extensive, actually. Long before this abomination you allowed to happen and enthusiastically supported. So keep trying to avoid the inevitable, Turd. You will have more credibility pretending I am the Incredible Hulk. Or Han Solo. Oh, sorry, you lost the little credibility you had about a month ago already... |
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Amazing, simply amazing.
This Turd of an individual, in spite of the PROVEN FACTS that he was in on the scam BEFORE THE ICO, fully aware of how his name was being used, FULLY AWARE of how the crook Steve and the crook Lin were buying their own coin, being made aware BY ME, of everything that was going on -an d which he knew in much more detail than I did-, still, after the shit hit the fan, keeps pretending innocence... and keeping the funds, his random for this abomination of a scam -by the way, when it really blew up, he offer to return those funds... in another display of his pathological lying to try to avoid any responsibilities being, as it is proven, the ONLY party that actually could have stopped the scam on time and chose, instead, to ENTHUSIASTICALLY JOIN IN AN PRETEND IT WAS ALL LEGIT ALL ALONG.
Amazing, simply amazing.
And now, he keeps trying to scam the rest of the blind greedy sheep, fully knowing there are more than 600 million coins in the hands of the scammers, 100 million of them in his own hands. Once again, amazing beyond belief.
And, mind you, this guy cannot code shit. Just a tiny bit of self-taught Python. No C, no C++, no nothing. This idiotic, lying bastard, still keeps on trying to con people -a very deserving kind of people, mind you- into the full fledged scam.
Allow it at your own peril. The guy belongs in jail... or worse. And much sooner than later, he's going to get his due.
A just to show, once more, how irrational, twisted, crooked and scammer this idiot is, he has been pretending now for a bit that I am Bobsurplus, who I consider several steps below a rat and who I envision waking up any morning, quite deservedly, hanging by his balls. And his right-hand man, Ryan Wrights, even a couple of steps below that... and, both punks, by the way, in irreversible route to self destruct by implosion. More about that as it develops...
Anyway Zimbeck the Turd, you are DONE, no matter what you try. Through and through. Only question is how much more damage you will inflict on BlackCoin before Pavel dumps you like the stinking Turd you are and how many idios you and Steven are going to be capable of fooling. I'll be watching...
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Finally -and only after having littered many threads with amazingly stupid posts- digicidal seems to have accepted the reality of things here after being in denial for weeks.
Better late than never I guess!
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Apologies if I sound crass, but is there a tl;dr version of what happened with the ICO/IPO if BitBiay and what the complaints are? These threads are too long.
Best TL / DR so far of this whole sorry mess (from Barrabas): Remainder for those who insist on not wanting to keep track: -- The chinese crooks, Lin and "Steven", still own around 400 MILLION coins -- Zimbeck the Turd still owns 100 MILLION coins. He also has collected around 300 BTC so far. -- Bob the Rat and Ryan the Weasel, not only have walked away with roughly 1,000 BTC altogether ALREADY, but the still hold approximately 40 MILLION coins. Do with this info whatever you please. You are dealing IN ALL CASES, with the worst scum on the face of Planet Earth. Is there something more comprehensive? Did the team not deliver what they promised? What are the scam accusations? If it was an IPO/ICO, isn't it normal for the team to own a portion of BTC and the alt? Of course it isnt normal! It is raw thievery in fact. Precisely the purpose of an ICO is to FUND THE PROJECT, not to LINE GHE POCKETS of the devs. It is generally accepted though that honest devs (what a laughable conceot, by the way), will pre-mine or "buy" in ICO/IPO, up to 1% of the coin. Anything beyond that is simply a scam by whatever definition. Devs gets serious profit ONLY if coin successful and then no more than many other investors that risked their money supporting and msking the project possible. Simple as that. |
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Another dead coin  Seems all other coins are scam coin except BTC  Even a good (non scammy) coin needs a great community behind it; unfortunately this one just doesnt have it. Plus the dev, obviously, has other priorities. |
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Only mod of btct can delete posts here. This is not a censored thread.
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so basically International Rob, the main scammer is Barrabas ?  Why that guys stupid enough to put that here, is beyond my understanding (same reason he did his complaining against bytecent, wasn't happy). welcome to Dumb and Dumber thread Now I believe I am Batman. And Robin... mayve even Wonder Woman too. What kind of new stupid are you? Wow! |
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I guess they will try to pump it and then dump it at 300 satos
But you have nothing to worry about. Zimbeck the Turd will "protect" you all the way... |
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Remainder for those who insist on not wanting to keep track:
-- The chinese crooks, Lin and "Steven", still own around 400 MILLION coins
-- Zimbeck the Turd still owns 100 MILLION coins. He also has collected around 300 BTC so far.
-- Bob the Rat and Ryan the Weasel, not only have walked away with roughly 1,000 BTC altogether ALREADY, but the still hold approximately 40 MILLION coins.
Do with this info whatever you please. You are dealing IN ALL CASES, with the worst scum on the face of Planet Earth.
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Wow, as soon as a few people start mentioning lawyers and BTer you get all conciliatory Zimbeck. U got Lin on the other line i guess.
Actually i can prove that in fact, i dont. I'm just politely requesting the community lets me do what i love and thats to make software. Ive already said, im the most transparent person in crypto by far. It was ironic i was even within miles of a mess like this. I'm going to share my wallets with you all. Something in no way am i required to do. BTER is a much more difficult thing to pursue if not impossible I think it would be a huge waste of community money. Not to mention time. David if your so honest you care to explain why you ripped this coin off? bitXbay http://bitxbay.ws/ https://github.com/bitxbay/BitXBay which was made Jun 9th. the git hub doesn't lie. Their web site details smart contracts and thus BlackHalo. It's a clear rip of that other coin. Blackhalo and Bitbay are clones of that coins software. David care to explain why you ripped this coin off? Don't bother him he is busy trying to explain why we should not think about suing BTer for being his partner in crime. The list of frauds that must be explained away here is long here friend, take your ticket and wait in line. Not at all. I'm aware you guys were hurt by them. I think its a very difficult case in China. And that in a nutshell is you Zimbeck. For three weeks you concealed your involvement in this scam. In this reply, you have the gall to say "you guys" were hurt by "them". No mention of yourself and the fat stack of coins you are sitting on. No mention of you hiding the fraud from the community for weeks while they kept buying. You have been balls deep in crypto for a couple years now, and you say you did not know who bob surplus was?  Shit, my grandma's an eskimo with dial up, she knows who Bob is. There seems to be no limit to what you think people will believe. In fact, i didnt have any clue who he was. I'm tired of repeating that. Steven was the one who approached me, ive cleared that with a reporter showing those logs. Ive got emails to back that up too. I wish i knew things would have been very different indeed. I'm not a crypto trader, im a software dev. If i was a trader last year, i would have been a millionaire. My full time involvement in crypto started with Halo and that was only in December of last year. (one full year) My stack of coins was never sold something im going to prove. I've got no interest in selling them. It may be wise to use it for bounties. I'm going to get some rest. Its 4AM. And that's why you had almost all of it (more than 80% of them to be precise) in the TRADING account and only less than 20% in two separate accounts, right piece of shit scammer? |
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Can the people that have been scammed, and with all the fraud that's been committed can 'we' the community sue the devs and bter?
Anyone know law?
You all claim to have records which you will have to hand over otherwise you will be withholding information which is also a crime.
I would like to state im willing to continue the coin as promised make my personal involvement transparent. My history, how i was hired on and clear my name. Ive never scammed anyone lets make that very crystal clear. I'm looking for peace. I can do in my power whatever is needed to make the coin great. Investors only suffered so far a minor drop. I'm of the impression Bob and Ryan sold most their coins already. I think Steve & BTER will also be willing to do help as well with what is left of the funds. In the new thread we can take the full communities response (the real one not the paid fake one). Everyone, lets move over there please. For investors I'm strongly considering a 1:1 exchange. My dev schedule has suffered a small setback because of this. Nothing that we cant push forward from. It can be positive and transparent. It will be. Thats why I was hired for this license. Thank you. And what about everyone who sold at a loss when this coin tanked when the news of your partnership with Bob Surplus came to light? and the fake BTC at Bter? what does your compromise offer mean for them? My understanding of what was going on was after my deposit was paid and the ICO was started. I didnt know who Bob was, I can prove that with relative ease. For the people who are upset at BTER one thing to consider here. That is a much more difficult and complex thing to pursue. Bitcoin is still unregulated. I'm not sure you will get far on that. They did after all pay as agreed the bitcoins to each party that was drafted. Very difficult if not impossible to make any case on them. If anything my info defends them. They bought their own coin. I'm not aware of what law that actually broke. However, threats, defamation, brand damage, (need i list all of it this page would be filled) are very clear and transparent are illegal in any country Bob and Ryan run to. Easy. BTER and Steven are happy to pursue what is left of the BTC that wasnt extorted from them. This is so typical of you piece of shit scammer: "They bought their own coin. I'm not aware of what law that actually broke." None, for you none. Amazing, what a disgraceful piece of shit scammer you are. You have to go to jail, have to. As simple as that. |
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Sadly you got scammed by zimbeck he cloned bitbay and Blackhalo from bitXbay. Their website http://bitxbay.ws/ their github https://github.com/bitxbay/BitXBay which was made jun 9th. the git hub doesnt lie. thier web web site details smart contracts and thus BlackHalo. ITs a clear rip of that other coin. He coded nothing. Don't fall for this scam. this mixed with scam Bter. Why the fuck would anyone touch this coin? Just a reminder to everyone: While Zimbeck can copy/paste, he CANT code. He just doesn't know how to code. Not C, not C++ AND JUST A TINY BIT OF pYTHON. hE CANNOT PROVIDE any TECH AT ALL. This piece of shit individual, is a cancer in crypto. So are Steven and Lin. And of course Bob and Ryan, who are in full self destruct mode... but that's another (developing) story. |
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Thanks for another reply.
I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.
That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan. Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin. Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange. I would really like to see if the pegging works. But who would buy the coin for 1$ if you have pegged it? Answering a few questions here: Come back to BC: I NEVER left. This mess im cleaning up. NT microtrader is on the agenda. Josh knows i was planning a big release. The microtrader is almost ready but coin daemons and markets have suffered a delay. It happens i can do an official statement. Halos next release is on the way and its a very big one. We got approved for some new articles. Its lovely. People sold BC to buy BitBay: I told them not to until they proved themselves. I was talking privately about what was going on for a while. Once the sirens went off I was scrambling to peg and get a bigger team. Nobody should sell BC ever. They should buy it. One of the biggest BC bulls out there. The 1$ Peg: Its a goal. The buy wall needs to be high enough OR the supply needs to be small (like .1% liquid maybe?). My statements in this thread were to make it a moving peg. Lets start small and grow to that goal. Am I going to take a bigger role in BitBay now?: I'm going to do clean up like a janitor. However, im not a genie, i cant control the price before the peg. Its anyones guess now who is going to mop up the coins. Im still very much a BC man. My hat goes off to rat4. Hes great(a real developer ). I hope all the big BC holders are out and the coin is distributed. The two coins have similar goals they coincide. November NT deadline should have been pushed back a bit. I was grabbing low hanging fruit on my dev work. A minor setback lets hope there arent any more of those. Like a plant we grow it. Patience. Plants dont just spring out of the ground and walk away they need water attention and time. No way Pavel is going to put up with your shit... although he put up with the Black Hand, so it's simply a matter of money. Again. Another greedy bastard... |
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I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today. anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:) BayScam? Bingo. The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning. Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either: A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors. B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money. C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow. D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing. BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO. Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter. Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens. And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.  Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be: (Chronological order) Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution. Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said) I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name. Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC) I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man) I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made. They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose. I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records) My hand was forced, i had to advance. The rest as they say is history. I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches. Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to. Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.
Zimbeck knew all the facts from the start, was 1/5, partner in the ICO, received massive amounts of BTC and BAY from BTer for his role in this sorry mess.
Zimbeck knew from the start that Bob Surplus was in on the deal and 1/5 partner.
Zimbeck hid his knowledge of all these facts - including the massive fraud in BTer - from both the Black Coin community and the Bay Community the entire time - until the house of cards came tumbling down.
Zimbeck is now scurrying from reddit to BTCT trying to convince everyone that he was an innocent victim in all this, and point the finger at Notorius Bob.
Zinbeck is currently doing nothing to help reveal the BTer fraud. In fact, quite the opposite - the chinese mafia figures who were behind the scam are the new thread moderators at the "new, official BAY thread". Which Zimbeck is now promoting.
Bob has not dumped his coins. A look at the charts will tell you this. David, Bob, and the chinese mafia can dump bay on the market anytime. Bay is now a magic piggy bank for the con artists that started it - as long as they can keep people believing. For this they need a front man? Who is that? You guessed it.
Zimbeck can tell "his version" of this sad mess until the cows come home. It will not change the facts.
Elanor rigby. Give your full name identity and address and then people will believe you arent bob or gekko. If bob and ryan want to clear their names then they can refund their BTC 191+191+500. Why don't you put your money where your dirty mouth is? Return the 191 BTC and 100 million BAY. Then ask the other crooks to follow your lead. THAT would be really wanting to set things straight. Fat chance ah? greedy lying motherfucker... |
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I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today. anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:) BayScam? Bingo. The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning. Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either: A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors. B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money. C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow. D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing. BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO. Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter. Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens. And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned. Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again. I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be: (Chronological order) Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution. Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said) I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name. Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC) I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man) I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made. They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose. I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records) My hand was forced, i had to advance. The rest as they say is history. I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches. Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to. Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful. Always the same BULLSHIT Zimbeck. The logs prove you ENTHUSIASTICALLY supported the scam. Irrefutably. And you were told -by me, although you kne it much better and in full detail- what was going on. You refused to come out clean because you wanted the money. Deposits can be returned, you know that. You greedy bastard motherfucker, you made it ALL possible fully knowing what was going on from the get go. You STILL do, scammer piece of shit. |
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You cannot be this stupid, really, can you?
Steven engineered the whole thing. Along with Lin, in on the "deal" from the get go. Steven (and Lin) then contacted Bob and he came on board. Subsequently, Steven got Zimbeck, for shit load of money and Zimbeck found out about Bob/Gekko involvement about two minutes after he got his first money (make a note of this, ok? 350 BTC -he has admitted only to 191...- plus 100 million BAYs). When he found out Bob was involved, not only he enthusiastically approved of the pump but was as lured and supportive as anyone in the group --more so in fact, read the fucking logs-.
So it is fully clear to everyone (since you cannot be reached): There are no innocents here. Crooks all. The worst imaginable kind of crooks if you have to make distinctions. From Steven the mobster, to Lin the crook, to Zimbeck the Turd and of course including Bob and Gekko, the worst pair of lowlives on the face of the earth. They all belong in jail, but with the key thrown out to the fucking deep sea. Get it now?
And make no mistake about it: BAY, under whatever denomination, Halo and anything that anyone of these crooks will ever touch, is doomed. You, the blind, greedy, hypocrites, equally low lives as the aforementioned -sans the opportunity to steal-, will not salvage a single penny here. Or anywhere you choose to follow these crooks individually, on pairs or as a group.
This shit is done, stick a fork in it. And I am not just referring to BAY.
PS this was directed to digicidal in particular, but obviously to a much wider group too.
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All these sheeples are throwing their lives away on this coin. "Bitcoin Dev" is not a dev, he is chinese mobster Steven who already stole their money. BTer Lin who also stole their money and engineeered massive fraud in the ICO through fake buys on BTer owns another 20% of this coin. There are enough "free" coins in circulation that the price will never recover towards IC0. It is just a magic piggy bank for these chinese guys for the next 6 months - as long as they can keep the "community" believing in this fairy tale.
And now there is talk of "forking" the coin - and David says he is "looking" at this? Sheeze. This gets scammier and scummier every day. I don't see David talking about the chinese mobsters returning their coins.
It's all a scam, a fake out. They have everyone thinking that 'cuz Bob left the danger is over. I got news for them. Bob hasn't left. Check the charts. It ain't there. Those coins are also waiting to rain down on them.
Anyone who still 'believes' in this thing seriously needs to get some fresh air and perspective.
Finally... someomne who gets it! A lot of people gets it. A few simply refuse. They like it deeper and more painful. I guess there has to be all kinds. But everyone, no exceptions, gets you BOB. And you will hang by your balls, I am pretty pretty sure. |
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