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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 14, 2024, 11:49:22 PM
Strong game by Valencia and after a long time they won three games in a row. I hope they will join at least Conference League next season. I miss watching them in European competitions. Javi Guerra came from the second team and adapted to the team well. Hugo Duro scored his eighth goal. These guys are young talents, Valencia can build a good team around them. The future looks bright.

Valencia are getting closer from that spot but If you take a closer look you will find out that these top teams all deserve to be in UEFA competitions.. Top four will most likely end in UEFA Champions League and at worst another in Conference League..
Real Sociedad and Betis, in addition to Atletico Madrid will end up in Europa or Conference League. These teams miss points from time to time but don't expect them to let Valencia took their hardworking places.

In Supercoppa de Espana, Real Madrid didn't allow Barcelona taking the title and beat them badly by four goals to 1! Barcelona and Xavi need more efforts to make the players more concentrated and especially ready for such big games!
Congratulations Real Madrid for this cup Smiley

Most likely? I think it is already known that the top four will play the Champions League. One club will go into the Europa League and one club will play in the Conference League. I think depending on who wins the Copa del Rey and the other UEFA competitions, there might be one more starting spot for the Europa League or Conference League. But it will definitely be four teams in the Champions League.

Athletic Bilbao is playing well. They didn't lose any of the last 13 games they played in all competitions and deserve the spot they now have. But I guess that they won't be able to stay there until the end.
122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 14, 2024, 11:36:15 PM
it is not that I am already thinking about a Villareal playing in the Segunda division, but I think if they have the wrong focus (which they don't because it makes no sense), clubs can be wrong and find themselves in a situation that they did never anticipate.

Sevilla is an exception because they made something happen that usually doesn't happen. But thinking that this is how it goes for any club playing against the relegation zone doesn't go anywhere. La Liga is their primary business. Europa League is the extra they still have to play for.

Sevilla not in form but they're trying, we should also look at other clubs that are not doing well this season. Sevilla new coach, Enrique Sánchez Flores is not considered a promising coach but he's doing his best to make Sevilla to stand back to their kneels once more, it's not an easy run for the new coach but he will try his best. Sevilla have dropped in form and they're close to the relegation zone this season, they've suffered alot from matches and the board will no longer take things easy other than going all in for the good significant positions

They have obviously not drawn the right conclusions after they played such a bad season last year. But it looked so positive because they were able to win the Europa League against all expectations. However, they can't expect to be winning this competition while they are performing so bad in La Liga. It is only 1 point to the relegation zone and if they get dragged into the danger zone, no win in the Europa League will help them to make up for it.

Has there ever been a team that won the Europa League while getting relegated into a lower division?
123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 14, 2024, 11:18:04 PM
If Kevin De Bruyne can now get enough practice, it will also have a deep impact on Manchester City's game. It's impossible to replace someone like him, let alone when he is at his optimum and then gets an injury. He scored a very important goal against Newcastle now and this could give him some valuable momentum for the next few weeks. Haaland benefits a lot from a well playing De Bruyne.

Now Manchester City has one more difficult game against Tottenham in the FA Cup. The next six weeks will be exciting for them and I hope they can keep everyone on board and nobody gets ruled out due to injuries.
Haland will really anticipate getting back on the pitch especially as Kevin de bruyne is now back, they make a very good combination such a that haland gets to score more goals in the presence of kdb because kdb has got the creativity that gives halamd the perfect chance to give Manchester city some more good goals.

I did mentioned on one of the thread that if the trio of haland, doku and KDB is back in the pitch, that the end to what they can achieve is just but a few because they are are all going to make so much happen around Manchester city using their combined efforts to get the desired results, but I'm the main time KDB has shown great performance in the games he did played just as he came back, I would just hope they don't get to stress him so much that he get back injured knowing that he's currently injury prone having suffered that which he's recently.

Yes but it seems that Doku has fully recovered now or not? I think he played more than 80 minutes against Newcastle and he had his first game last week, so it looks as if he is on a good way back to being in full shape again. But no doubt if a team loses three players like Haaland, Doku and KDB, it's not possible for any team to bring on the same quality. But when you see the line-up, Manchester City would never have a weak team to be honest. Silva, Foden and Alvarez doesn't sound too bad either. Wink
124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What strategies do you adopt that can help to make millions in sport betting on: January 14, 2024, 10:44:22 PM
After going through the thread below titled "Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting?"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475889.0)
I think it's possible using some sporting strategies. I wish to know which strategy have you been using to win big as a gambler.

Making millions in sports betting probably requires you to have millions in the first place. Sure you could always be lucky and hit a multiplier of 10x or so and get this one lucky huge bet. But if someone uses the word "strategy" to make millions, it doesn't quite sound like a reasonable strategy to make millions with sports betting if your only hope is to hit one big shot on an underdog team. It sounds more like you are talking about a strategy that involves more little steps instead of one huge bet. But if you really found a strategy and the casino provider is able to analyze your approach, I wouldn't be surprised if you get paid and then excluded from playing.
125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 14, 2024, 10:36:06 PM
But I wasn't referring to contracts in general, but more to his "golden rule" when he said that he won't stay at one place for more than three years, but he did break that rule for Manchester City.

I think when a coach built a great team and sees how the team thrives and becomes better, it is hard to say goodbye. But what is so impressive about Guardiola is that he built the most dangerous Barcelona there ever was in the history of the club. And then he decided to leave the club, which I still don't understand in some aspects, but I guess he wanted something new, a new challenge.

I think we should hope to see magic from Guardiola in Manchester City because, with the current situation they have in Manchester City, they are not in the good form at all to have a high chance for the Champions League compared to the other teams.
However, Manchester City can decide to put in more energy and try improving the team during the winter.


If Kevin De Bruyne can now get enough practice, it will also have a deep impact on Manchester City's game. It's impossible to replace someone like him, let alone when he is at his optimum and then gets an injury. He scored a very important goal against Newcastle now and this could give him some valuable momentum for the next few weeks. Haaland benefits a lot from a well playing De Bruyne.

Now Manchester City has one more difficult game against Tottenham in the FA Cup. The next six weeks will be exciting for them and I hope they can keep everyone on board and nobody gets ruled out due to injuries.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 14, 2024, 09:33:28 PM
Ronaldo's performances at Al Nassr are impressive and puzzling. Thats incredible for a 38-year-old to score 20 goals and assist 9 in 18 games. Its more than his Saudi league experience, I think. Ronaldo's top league stints show he adapts quickly. Although significant, his age feels like a number to him.

His competition level worries me, though. Is his skill or the league's quality helping him score? He's indeed a fantastic player, but context matters. Experience, team support, and league competition may explain his goal-scoring streak. I admire Ronaldo, but I think its necessary to have a balanced assessment of his career so far.
Since his professional career, Cristiano Ronaldo have played on five league from Portugal, Premier League, La Liga, Serie A then Saudi Pro League he has adapt well with all clubs plays and success winning domestic league with three clubs. Most important key from Cristiano Ronaldo is he can adapt well with culture, weather and atmosphere with all club have been joined since his professional career and consistency scoring many goals for every clubs joining.
Left one challenge with Cristiano Ronaldo will win domestic league tittle with Al Nassr for this season? its become second year for him but first season start well although he failed make Al Nassr winning domestic league tittle.

But this doesn't make him a super hero. He is a super hero because he was the best of the best in important leagues, but is he still a super hero when he scores goals in Saudi Arabia? I still acknowledge how good he is, but it is different when he scores in a top league or in a weak league. It is not the same.

As European clubs are packed with star players, scoring goals is the most difficult thing to do. But the clubs of Saudi Arabia are never compared with the European teams. Because if the Saudi players are left among the European players to score a goal then it will never be possible to score a goal. But Cristiano Ronaldo, as a European player, should be looked at differently as he is showing signs of age now but his running speed is still right. Cristiano Ronaldo has been insulted in many ways by European players which is why I think the Saudi League is a great honor for him.


I guess he still has a number of goals in his career that he is pursuing. He has to keep scoring if he wants to be nominated for the upcoming tournaments. The European Championship is guaranteed for him if he doesn't get any bad injury. But I would not be surprised if Ronaldo has the World Cup in the back of his head. He has these little goals like becoming the oldest top striker etc. Portugal has a respectable team and I believe he can still help the team. He is still good enough as you said and although his speed isn't quite the same, he is still dangerous enough and fast enough to score plenty of goals. He would probably feel a special push if he was up against some European top teams again (or Argentina at the World Cup).
127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 14, 2024, 09:23:58 PM
I actually never saw a winner between Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur I think both team are very evenly matched and they are both not in a very good form, although I think Tottenham Hotspur were just a little bit better than Manchester United but not too much to make a notable differences.
Generally speaking I think this encounter was a fair one and the score line was also fair, it was exciting too seeing that the game produce four goals and both team would now have to manage one point each.

It was a game well played by both teams and the points shared were well deserved by them both. No team did very well and so much better than the other, they were both on the average level against each other and that didn’t make a lot difference even in the pitch as they were playing. From the stats analysis of this match, it was revealed that Tottenham Hotspur had the most possession and more shots on target, but the retaliation of Manchester United on them with all this was a well matched for them which in turn didn’t allow them to have access to more goals. Good attacks by Tottenham and good repel from Manchester United. They should now be both looking forward to their next matches and see how they can win to improve their standing positions in the league table.

I think Tottenham Hotspurs was much closer to winning the game than Manchester United was. I am not only referring to their superior ball possession, but their attempts on target, which were three times as many as Manchester United had. Manchester's passing accuracy was a disaster as well. They had around 75& passing accuracy, which means that every fourth pass was a fail. That is really bad. But somehow ten Hag won this point and it will once again keep him safe for the time being.

Arsenal literally destroyed their great season in the last five games. They dropped 11 points and I doubt that they can afford this and still be able to compete for the trophy in the end. They are not out yet, but this trend isn't looking promising obviously.
128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 13, 2024, 11:50:11 PM
Ronaldo's performances at Al Nassr are impressive and puzzling. Thats incredible for a 38-year-old to score 20 goals and assist 9 in 18 games. Its more than his Saudi league experience, I think. Ronaldo's top league stints show he adapts quickly. Although significant, his age feels like a number to him.

His competition level worries me, though. Is his skill or the league's quality helping him score? He's indeed a fantastic player, but context matters. Experience, team support, and league competition may explain his goal-scoring streak. I admire Ronaldo, but I think its necessary to have a balanced assessment of his career so far.
Since his professional career, Cristiano Ronaldo have played on five league from Portugal, Premier League, La Liga, Serie A then Saudi Pro League he has adapt well with all clubs plays and success winning domestic league with three clubs. Most important key from Cristiano Ronaldo is he can adapt well with culture, weather and atmosphere with all club have been joined since his professional career and consistency scoring many goals for every clubs joining.
Left one challenge with Cristiano Ronaldo will win domestic league tittle with Al Nassr for this season? its become second year for him but first season start well although he failed make Al Nassr winning domestic league tittle.

But this doesn't make him a super hero. He is a super hero because he was the best of the best in important leagues, but is he still a super hero when he scores goals in Saudi Arabia? I still acknowledge how good he is, but it is different when he scores in a top league or in a weak league. It is not the same.

But at the end of the day he is at least trying to perform on a high level for all the money he gets. You can't say the same about Benzema and I think that is a shame. If someone gets so much money, the last you should expect are top performances.
129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 10, 2024, 08:17:54 PM

Spending too much money on the Arabian teams and especially in the Saudi Arabia during this summer made many people think about this country and now Valentín Botella Nicolás the CEO of FutbolJobs, started talking about the players they have so far.
He thinks Saudi Arabia is trying to make the structure of their football with the players they buy from top European teams to get progress.




https://www.marca.com/mx/futbol/2024/01/09/659d4716e2704e31758b45bd.html

Yes but this is where it falls short of a real strategy. This has been said before and I agree that you can't import a whole soccer world from one continent to another by buying a few great players. It makes only a small difference. See how much Ligue 1 changed because one club got a billion of investment. What happened? PSG is winning the league every year and people lose interest because it is boring. I think this shows how difficult it is to build a culture, an infrastructure, and all the things that the fans enjoy and the players are living for when they decide to become professionals.

Money will always be a short-term solution and we all know that. I think almost everyone here would sign a contract with hundreds of millions of dollars, but players stop playing for the sake of playing and start playing for the sake of earning. It is not the same. That is a problem Saudi Arabia can't solve with billions.
130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 10, 2024, 08:03:46 PM
This would be a huge surprise if Pep Guardiola decided to extend his contract one again as he already broke his golden rule once. He said many years ago that he will never stay with the same club for more than three years, but obviously he knows that he found what he was looking for at Manchester City. Lots of money to be made, good investment strategies in quantity and quality for the squad and I think he is not only the coach, but he has lots of responsibilities and rights in the club. It is exactly the way he wants it. I am not sure if he will extend his contract once again, but the question then would be where he could go next without making a step back in his career.
The contract of every coach doesn't exceed three years but Pep Guardiola have won the hearts of manchester city board, they've placed gigantic offer for Pep Guardiola for upcoming seasos. Alot of questions throwing behind the club's headcoach, Pep Guardiola about his next move from the Etihad stadium. He's one of the respectable coach in football, leaving manchester city wouldn't work this season because there's alot of work and priorities to accomplish for the club. Pep Guardiola is the reason behind the strong foundation of Manchester City, they stand brilliant in matches and among the top teams regarded as the best.

But I wasn't referring to contracts in general, but more to his "golden rule" when he said that he won't stay at one place for more than three years, but he did break that rule for Manchester City.

I think when a coach built a great team and sees how the team thrives and becomes better, it is hard to say goodbye. But what is so impressive about Guardiola is that he built the most dangerous Barcelona there ever was in the history of the club. And then he decided to leave the club, which I still don't understand in some aspects, but I guess he wanted something new, a new challenge.
131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 10, 2024, 06:18:24 PM
I had a look at the table because I wasn't fully aware of how it is looking for Villareal currently. I now saw that they are literally fighting against getting into the relegation zone. Now I read your post and you say that they are focusing more on the Europa League because they are caught in the middle of the La Liga table. No, shit is hitting the fan for them dude! There is no focus on the Europa League because they first and foremost have to make sure that they are not going to end up playing in Segunda Division next season. LoL, "they are currently still scattered in the middle standings". I would never want you to be the coach of a serious soccer club, it would end in a serious mess. Cheesy

I don't think Villarreal will have problems in La Liga. Yes, they don't have many points, but their position in the standings is not critical and they will have to try very hard to get into the relegation zone. Another talking point could be that Villarreal had an easy group in the Europa League, that's why they were able to take the first place. But I am sure that they will have big difficulties further on.

it is not that I am already thinking about a Villareal playing in the Segunda division, but I think if they have the wrong focus (which they don't because it makes no sense), clubs can be wrong and find themselves in a situation that they did never anticipate.

Sevilla is an exception because they made something happen that usually doesn't happen. But thinking that this is how it goes for any club playing against the relegation zone doesn't go anywhere. La Liga is their primary business. Europa League is the extra they still have to play for.
132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 10, 2024, 06:10:44 PM
~Snip
Real Madrid really understands how to arrange players in every match they have played so far, because if the opponent is not strong enough like Arandina, it is not a problem for Real Madrid to field second line players in that match. But for today's match in the Super Cup with the opponent being Atletico Madrid, of course Real Madrid will field their main squad to achieve victory because Atletico Madrid is also a fairly strong rival for Real Madrid in La Liga.
Even though this is a Spanish Super Cup match, both teams will consider it important to win. This match was played at a neutral venue, so there is no home or away team status for this match. Of course, this is an advantage for Atletico Madrid, who previously beat Real Madrid in a La Liga match, but Real Madrid is unlikely to accept a second defeat to the same team this season.

The match was played at Al-Awwal Stadium in Saudi Arabia. This stadium has a capacity of 25,000 spectators and is currently the home of Al-Nassr FC. Real Madrid and its squad have a high probability of winning, but if Atletico Madrid manages to kill Bellingham's game then a draw might be considered.

It is the shortest way for any of the clubs to add a trophy to their names. I think Ancelotti would not use this game to let some of his players get a rest. That is not his attitude. I think he could choose to rotate a small number of players, but not to rest players at the cost of weakening the team. It would rather be to prepare everyone for the hard second half of the season. He is a title collector and this title counts as well. At the end of the day, if you see the line-up for this trophy, I think there is still prestige at stake.
133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 09, 2024, 11:09:33 PM
I personally don't think Real Madrid or Barcelona is actually going to lose to Girona when it comes to the La Liga title. Well, I don't know about Barcelona because they are not performing well. And they are the defending champions. But I still think Real Madrid has a better chance to win the La Liga title compared to Girona. I am not trying to disrespect Girona. I think they have done a wonderful job. But I don't think they will be able to sustain that level of performance in the long run. Had some point the performances going to drop and that's when the difference in terms of points are going to be created with Real Madrid.
We do acknowledge Girona's performance and progress so far in La Liga this season. that is really impressive and extraordinary for a club that was previously considered an underrated or small club and in the end this season can really improve drastically and impressively compete with Real Madrid and also Barcelona. and even Girona is above Barcelona and Atletico Madrid at the moment with quite a big difference in points.

However, even though at the moment the number of points between Real Madrid and Girona is exactly the same, the only difference is the number of goals, but I think the La Liga title holders this season will still be Real Madrid. Because after all, Real Madrid has a stronger and more prepared squad compared to Girona and when they meet other strong teams later, Real Madrid's winning percentage will probably be higher than Girona. This is if we look at the squad data statistics and their strength. But once again, that is based on what has usually happened so far, but whether there will be a miracle with Girona experiencing perfect match results, that is beyond prediction.

What is certain is that whether Girona holds the La Liga title this season or not, their progress so far has been recognized as very impressive, and moreover, they will definitely become even more famous when finally next season they can enter the competition in the Champions League (UCL).

This is a head to head duel between the big Real Madrid and the small club Girona that has surprised everyone and so far taken La Liga by storm. Nobody would have ever put Girona in either first or second place after half of the season has been played. But now it looks great for them and I think it will all be about the lightheartedness of Girona and the massive experience of Real Madrid. If Girona doesn't have major issues anytime soon and they can diligently collect their points without losing many games, this could become a close fight between them.
134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 09, 2024, 10:53:35 PM
I had a look at the table because I wasn't fully aware of how it is looking for Villareal currently. I now saw that they are literally fighting against getting into the relegation zone. Now I read your post and you say that they are focusing more on the Europa League because they are caught in the middle of the La Liga table. No, shit is hitting the fan for them dude! There is no focus on the Europa League because they first and foremost have to make sure that they are not going to end up playing in Segunda Division next season. LoL, "they are currently still scattered in the middle standings". I would never want you to be the coach of a serious soccer club, it would end in a serious mess. Cheesy
That's why I said their situation is the same as Sevilla last season.
For the Europa League they only have to wait for the opponent who will play in the play offs and if we calculate the statistics of the round of 16 until the final (if Villarreal is able) it means they will only compete 7 more times and even then if they are able to set foot in the final so in this case the main focus is definitely the Europa League just like Sevilla did but if in the end they are eliminated in the Round of 16 phase or maybe in the quarter-finals then surely the focus is on improving for La Liga.
The current position in La Liga they are in 13th place and only 4 points different from the difference of the club that is in the relegation zone but it will not be a problem that is quite complicated because the match is still very long and with their strength I think when the focus is on La Liga they are definitely able to get out of that zone but for the Europa League once they make a mistake in the match that is done then it is the end for them.

I disagree to its fullest. Villareal's biggest focus is La Liga and nothing else. If you have some insider information, then let everyone know here, but I doubt that you are in touch with anyone from Villareal. If they are asked whether they want to be relegated into Segunda Division, but they get the Europa League title, or if they stay in La Liga but will lose the Europa League title, what would they prefer. I guarantee you that in 100% of the time they would say they want to stay in La Liga. Now tell me again what their main focus is, please. Or tell me that you disagree and that they would take the Europa League title and play in Segunda Division.
135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 09, 2024, 10:40:27 PM
Apart from that, I also worried about Guardiola no longer has the big ambitions he had previously because ya, Guardiola already succeeded in bringing Manchester City to all the trophies available . Therefore, it seems possible that in the future Guardiola will also leave and thus, it looks like Manchester City maybe find it difficult to get the right coach in the future if for example Guardiola really leaves . Indeed, the main priority is also about a good squad to get good results too, but if they don't have the right coach to build the team, at least they will still find it difficult to get the same success later as now.
I think you are right, if Guardiola doesn't have big ambitions and leaves from the club, then Manchester City will difficulty finding the right head coach. Because so far only with Pep Guardiola, the Manchester City club has been able to win many trophy, including their first UCL trophy in the previous season. But I hope Pep can stay at Manchester City by extending his contract later. After all as the best head coach, Manchester City must also still keep that man.

This would be a huge surprise if Pep Guardiola decided to extend his contract one again as he already broke his golden rule once. He said many years ago that he will never stay with the same club for more than three years, but obviously he knows that he found what he was looking for at Manchester City. Lots of money to be made, good investment strategies in quantity and quality for the squad and I think he is not only the coach, but he has lots of responsibilities and rights in the club. It is exactly the way he wants it. I am not sure if he will extend his contract once again, but the question then would be where he could go next without making a step back in his career.
136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 09, 2024, 10:18:17 PM

About Benzema i think he was failed to adapt with the atmosphere of Saudi Pro League so that's why the fans were starting to complaining to his performance although this season he has scores 9 goals but it didn't make the fans satisfied with his performance because they expect Benzema can scores more goals with Al Ittihad besides that Benzema also rumoured he has a conflict with Al Ittihad previous manager Nuno Espirito Santo and this also causes Espirito Santo have to sacked
Some of European players has starting not too comfortable to playing at Saudi Pro League including Benzema this because they failed to adapt with this league and some people predict those players had possibilities to leave Saudi Pro League this January and for Benzema too the recent rumour is this player maybe will leave Al Ittihad and he was linked to Manchester United

I have big doubts about his problem being the atmosphere. I think he is lacking the willpower to work for his money. Benzema had his luckiest moment ever when he became the best player in the world and out of a sudden the teams from the Saudi Professional League wanted him, but he is different than Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo really wants to score the most goals, that is the least he can do and he will do it whenever he can. Benzema doesn't care about becoming the goal scorer and he knows that nobody can take away the salary from him. That is why he doesn't behave like a professional. He plays like an amateur and can't get himself going again. It's like a scam to me, but the Saudi clubs are the ones who are wasting their money, so I don't care.

Well in the grand scheme of things I don't think that the Saudi clubs are actually wasting money. Because they wanted to improve the popularity of their club and the whole of Saudi football. They are successfully doing that by bringing in these very players. Now of course it is going to matter for the individual clubs if the player is going to perform well or not. But they are actually achieving what they wanted in some way.

But the way Benzema is performing right now, it is definitely hurting the club. And I don't think anyone can actually deny that benzema was very lucky in that year which he was the best player of the world. A lot of goals that he scored were very lucky. But he did deserve that in that year. But now it's like a different person.

I believe they overestimated the long term effect those investments would inspire. There was a lot of enthusiasm and also excitement and curiosity around the world. People wanted to see how Ronaldo is doing in the Saudi Professional League and then several players decided to go there. Players with a lot of following from the fans on social media and other channels. They thought that younger talents would decide to go there and they could start a small revolution in the world of soccer, but you can now easily see that the excitement is vanishing every single day. I am not even checking the results anymore if I don't have to and I am sure that other people don't care as much anymore as they did when the big news was out that Ronaldo would go there.
137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 09, 2024, 09:45:32 PM
Villarreal is doing shit in LaLiga and good in Europa LEague like the guy above me said, it reminds me about the Sevilla last year, who was a total mess in local tournament but ended up winning the Europa League, in the case of Sevilla they start bad in LaLiga and ended up in good shap, but is an equal case with this of Villarreal, but i dont see Villarreal winning anything.
Since Emery left Villarreal their situation has changed slightly but it is not impossible for them to focus more on the Europa League now rather than looking at La Liga.

Not that La Liga is not very important in this case but if you look at their current condition it must be difficult to compete in the race for the Europa League or Champions League because they are currently still scattered in the middle standings so surely their priority will be in the Europa League and it was seen when Villarreal performed quite well in the Europa League group phase.
The current situation is actually almost the same as Sevilla did last season but of course that doesn't mean they can walk free in this competition because after all, looking at the opportunities that exist for them at this time Villarreal is just a dark horse for the Europa League.


I had a look at the table because I wasn't fully aware of how it is looking for Villareal currently. I now saw that they are literally fighting against getting into the relegation zone. Now I read your post and you say that they are focusing more on the Europa League because they are caught in the middle of the La Liga table. No, shit is hitting the fan for them dude! There is no focus on the Europa League because they first and foremost have to make sure that they are not going to end up playing in Segunda Division next season. LoL, "they are currently still scattered in the middle standings". I would never want you to be the coach of a serious soccer club, it would end in a serious mess. Cheesy
138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: January 09, 2024, 09:29:23 PM
Anything that is casino-related has a slim chance of winning, and it doesn't stop the fact that some people can win big with it. This winning is the target of most gamblers and the reason why they patronise casinos engaging in lotteries, they have hope in it. The lottery is not a child's play and it depends on the lottery we are talking about to know how easy or difficult the winning could be. There are some that will just be about the general drawing for the lucky winners and nothing more, but in some, gamblers can still use some mathematical calculations to get the possible results. And guess what? This works and I've seen a lot of people who didn't predict randomly but went to their calculation table to draw out the possible outcome and it works for them.

The best of this is when they are playing a certain lottery that is manually set but has had some internal calculations that will always follow a certain pattern. The issue is that it could be rigged like others since it is not easy for the house to follow the same logic on this all the time, many people will later get to know it and use it to make money against them. In all, people can win in lotteries by luck and by their efforts, but no one should ever believe they can get rich in lotteries. However, if it happens, they can embrace it and be happy. You see that people often have this belief in winning in lotteries, which is why they will continue to patronise it.
When it comes to rigged, any game could be rigged and as long as players are not aware of it, there is absolutely nothing that we can do about it, it's just the way it is. However, we should remember, even when it's not rigged, it's definitely not something that we could end up with an easier solution neither, it's not going to be all that easy.

I believe that most casino games, even included lottery which may charge more than it gives out, who knows, could definitely end up being a little difficult to handle. If a casino rewards 1 million dollars to lottery winner, but sold 1.5 million dollars worth of tickets, that alone shows how it's "rigged" but in a legal manner, there is nothing shady about that, that's just how it works.

You put this well together and I think in most countries, the state run lotteries specifically, are not rigged in an illegal way. You said that well that they are rigged by officially saying that there return to player rate is ridiculous. Let's say there is a lottery with a jackpot of 20 million, then usually they make revenue of 30 or maybe 40 million and only give 50% back to the people (I said jackpot, I mean the whole prize money being distributed). It's kind of a little scam, but their is consent among all participants that they are ok with it by submitting their tickets and paying for it.

It would also depend on the countries, but for most state run lotteries I think this is how it works and that removes the incentive to scam in any other way. Whether this is good or not, I don't know, that is up to everyone! Smiley
139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 09, 2024, 09:02:31 PM

Ok that is quite optimistic because I think that no team so far has ever won the treble twice in a row. Solely based on statistics I think that this statement is doomed to turn out to be wrong, but for as long as Manchester City is around and in the position to win all of the titles, there is nothing that speaks against them doing it. Whether they will, I don't know. But we can see that the competition in the Premier League has become incredibly tough and in the Champions League, there are a couple of clubs that I think are on the same level as Manchester City. Definitely Real Madrid I think.
Yeah mate my statement is just based on speculations and assumptions and nothing more than that,  because we have already multiple factors that may prevent that occurrence from happening and as the season goes going more or more limits may be placed on Manchester City that will prevent them from achieving that records of maintaining that position for multiple of time.

But also we can't outrightly write them off either since at the moment,  Manchester City is the defending champion and is more likely perceived as the closest club to the title since they hold the title currently.

It has nothing to do with the fact that Manchester City is the defending champion. It has only to do with the fact that Manchester City is only 2 points behind the leading team Liverpool if they win that one game that was postponed. If we were to follow your logic, a team that is the defending champion should not be written off even if they are 40 points behind in the subsequent season only because they are the defending champion. I hope you realize how much substance that statement lacks...
140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 09, 2024, 08:53:26 PM
Salernitana scored twice in the game they have played in the two games that they've played within the past few days. Juventus did well to come back and win, that's how a big team should play.
They're very consistent so far, they have been the only club chasing Inter Milan this season, when the Champions League Competition begins once again they may like drop off if they don't play well
If not for that late penalty miss, Juventus then should have taken the lead or they'll be currently at the same points on the Seria A Standing. They want to qualify for the champions league not win the league so they said.

Do you know that almost all clubs work with understatements during the season for as long as they can and it is still credible and authentic?

Juventus Turin doesn't gain anything if they now announce that their plan is to win the Scudetto. There is no point in shouting out loud what they ambitions are. But if a team has 46 points after the first half of the season, do you really think that they are not internally talking about the title or at least thinking about it?

I am sure that the players know what this season is all about. The Champions League qualification is safe one goal for them, but the Scudetto is what they really want.

There was no doubt in my mind that Juventus was going to win against Salernitana. Because it was the second team in the table against the last. So it was always going to be 3 points for Juventus. But I was a little surprised to see Juventus conceding in this match. To be honest, was also surprised to see the score 1-0 not in favour of Juventus. But Juventus was able to turn things around. And it is not going to be wrong to say that Juventus was actually a little lucky to be able to get 3 points by scoring after 90 minutes in the match.

If we talk about Juventus saying that they are not very serious about the title, they are just saying that to divert the mind of their opponent to some other team because there is no reason for them to say that otherwise. Especially when they are in 2nd position. I also think that they are saying that to make sure if they face any kind of disaster later on they can say that winning was not their plan and they wanted to fix other problems first, kind of like damage control.

But what kind of disaster should they be facing now? Are you talking about the past season or about this season? I think I don't understand your post or I can't put it into context to be honest.

As for the last game played, it is how they operate at the moment. Win with the smallest margin possible, but as I mentioned before it can turn into a dangerous game when they repeatedly do that and always hope that a one goal difference is enough. But the thing is that they don't have a very good striker. I know that some will say Vlahovic is an amazing striker, but I disagree. His stats are definitely average and he wasn't able to improbe significantly for quite some time now.
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