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3381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 16, 2014, 01:38:32 PM
I feel like I must be in a parallel universe or there is something I'm not reading correctly.

It is strange to me that the work on the game would cause people to somehow feel worse about XMR.  It's not like rpietila is the main dev working on any of the other dev team projects.  This is just a cherry on top of the sundae.  I mean, if they came out and said, "hey, we're going to drop the GUI wallet because we've got this new game coming out," that would be one thing.  But that isn't the case.



I think it's because rpietila is seen by some as a major figure in Monero to the extent that what he says or does has a big impact on the direction of XMR. Whether or not that is technically true is irrelevant, providing that people look to rpietila for a sense of what the future holds. If I'm honest, the first time I heard about the game my initial reaction was to sell and to abandon ship, simply because it just sounds like a joke - if nothing else but for the simple reason that it's not going to have any effect on the price, nor is it useful in expanding XMR's userbase. I got into XMR because it was marketted as a serious enterprise that would deliver a credible anonymous coin with the ability to shift 6 or 7 figure USD volumes. I still believe this will ultimately be the case. But when everyone's talking about the 'game' being a major thing for XMR - I'm like, okay well that's fine, but at the same time not the type of ball park I was expecting. Perhaps if just as much energy was put into winning BTC-e I'd be more optimistic.

unfortunately, i have to agree here. Moneros main reason to exist is to transfer money anonymously. How this game could help grow serious userbase that wants to use xmr as a way to transfer money, because they need or want the anonymity for what they do, is beyond me. it feels like a waste of energy in times where support seems to be so low and userbase is shrinking. I am sorry to say, but we do not need the people that hold 5 xmr somewhere as an in-game currency. we need serious people that want to transfer money anon, for whatever reasons there might be. Maybe its just me that got i wrong. I thought our main targted usecases would be hiding money, useing anon currency to buy illegal stuff and kick the contoll freaks in the ass.

Dnaleor is working on this. He has been advocating monero on the darknet forums.
3382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 16, 2014, 10:19:02 AM
Stocks are up and down like yoyo, ending on a predictable enough rebound.

Gold is up a few dollars

Bitcoin is relatively flat, also a few dollars down.

This is just an uncomfortable pause while everyone waits to see if the not- so- invisible- hand can continue to control the confidence of the market.


AEX (dutch) is down again today. Around 3%. It has lost over 13% already since the top last month.
3383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
Another exchange bites the dust:

"MintPal is currently down for a number of necessary changes and fixes. A separate method of withdrawing funds will be made available on October 16th, 2014."

http://www.coindesk.com/moolah-mintpal-closure-bankruptcy/

Crossposting my own post:

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Domain Name: MINTPAL.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1841800953_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-01-07 10:52:15Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ALEX GREEN
Registrant Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Registrant Street: 1ST FLOOR
Registrant Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Registrant City: LONDON
Registrant State/Province: LONDON
Registrant Postal Code: N12 0DR
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.2081443767
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: ALEX GREEN
Admin Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Admin Street: 1ST FLOOR
Admin Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Admin City: LONDON
Admin State/Province: LONDON
Admin Postal Code: N12 0DR
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.2081443767
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: ALEX GREEN
Tech Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Tech Street: 1ST FLOOR
Tech Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Tech City: LONDON
Tech State/Province: LONDON
Tech Postal Code: N12 0DR
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.2081443767
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: NS0.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS1.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS2.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS3.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS4.DNSMADEEASY.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

Quote
Management of MintPal is being handed off to another entity, Moopay LTD does not own the exchange.

Something doesn't add up here.

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9182186#msg9182186

PS: I am just speculating here, not accusing.
3384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 15, 2014, 06:26:01 PM
Crossposting this:

Quote
Domain Name: MINTPAL.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1841800953_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-01-07 10:52:15Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ALEX GREEN
Registrant Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Registrant Street: 1ST FLOOR
Registrant Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Registrant City: LONDON
Registrant State/Province: LONDON
Registrant Postal Code: N12 0DR
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.2081443767
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: ALEX GREEN
Admin Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Admin Street: 1ST FLOOR
Admin Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Admin City: LONDON
Admin State/Province: LONDON
Admin Postal Code: N12 0DR
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.2081443767
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: ALEX GREEN
Tech Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Tech Street: 1ST FLOOR
Tech Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Tech City: LONDON
Tech State/Province: LONDON
Tech Postal Code: N12 0DR
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.2081443767
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: NS0.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS1.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS2.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS3.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS4.DNSMADEEASY.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

Quote
Management of MintPal is being handed off to another entity, Moopay LTD does not own the exchange.

Something doesn't add up here.

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9182186#msg9182186

PS: I am just speculating here, not accusing.

3385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 15, 2014, 06:13:56 PM
Quote
Domain Name: MINTPAL.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1841800953_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-01-07 10:52:15Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-01-07 18:52:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ALEX GREEN
Registrant Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Registrant Street: 1ST FLOOR
Registrant Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Registrant City: LONDON
Registrant State/Province: LONDON
Registrant Postal Code: N12 0DR
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.2081443767
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: ALEX GREEN
Admin Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Admin Street: 1ST FLOOR
Admin Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Admin City: LONDON
Admin State/Province: LONDON
Admin Postal Code: N12 0DR
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.2081443767
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: ALEX GREEN
Tech Organization: MOOPAY LTD
Tech Street: 1ST FLOOR
Tech Street: 2 WOODBERRY GROVE
Tech City: LONDON
Tech State/Province: LONDON
Tech Postal Code: N12 0DR
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.2081443767
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: NS0.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS1.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS2.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS3.DNSMADEEASY.COM
Name Server: NS4.DNSMADEEASY.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

Quote
Management of MintPal is being handed off to another entity, Moopay LTD does not own the exchange.

Something doesn't add up here.

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9182186#msg9182186

PS: I am just speculating here, not accusing.
3386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 15, 2014, 09:16:22 AM
Wow massive dump!  Shocked

Some speculation going on: https://twitter.com/omnik/status/522165410096234496
3387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 14, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
For those with XMR on mintpal:

http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/14/moolah-is-having-to-close-its-doors/
3388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 13, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
From the perspective of development, we need more use for XMR.
Therefore I am hopeful for Risto's Crypto Kingndom project.

Bitcoin used to have Silk Road which brought constant demand for bitcoins, we need similar things for Monero. I think non-kosher money is not the way we should engage actively but this type of projects like Risto's one.
Those projects, when successfully monetized, will bring large amounts of money (I am talking here about not millions but tens of millions, even hundreds of millions usd). If the game is done optimally and it is marketed the best possible ways. it might be a huge success and bring tons of non-crypto people to Monero-community.

I am not capable to do coding and I do not have financial resources to do big projects like this but those who wish I hope they will do them. If you can code, then do.

Also, what I would like to see is a Monero-dedicated auction site (like ebay but in Moneros), then perhaps e-book library which forces one to buy moneros first in order to borrow e-books etc.
This type of services are the ones that will hoover the excessive Moneros from the Poloniex - now there is a flood of Moneros. Slightly below 20 000 Moneros are daily mined currently and I am sure some miners would like to do something with their moneros instead of directly dumping them into Poloniex.  Roll Eyes

Of course I am assuming here the Monero services are not direct dumpers (like the major btc-merchants are just another way to dump the coins into the fiat-btc-markets).

Dnaleor is working on this, he is advocating for monero on different darkmarket forums. If you want to help, feel free to PM him!
3389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
Breaking 2333 CNY would be very bullish! Let's see if we can achieve that.

OKcoin already hit 2345

I noticed that, but their previous top is 2353 (Bitstamps 395.55). So they didn't break their previous top. I should have mentioned I was looking at Huobi.
3390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Breaking 2333 CNY would be very bullish! Let's see if we can achieve that.
3391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][MEW]Discussion&Vote #1 - Communication Strategy - Members only on: October 12, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
100 votes

Proposal #2
3392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 12, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
Bid side collapsed hard, volume too. market seems exhausted. where do we go?
Yea.. forum activity and participation of prominent members also on the decline. I think there is overall disappointment that the database and GUI, which were just around the corner two months ago are still not here. I guess the majority of investors are in the red, which doesn't add much to the enthusiasm..
I started developing a service based on XMR, but put it on hold until I see clear signs that things are going in the right direction.

I think it's the fear hanging around (see McHaggis' reply), not what you've stated above. The devs never gave a timeline for these things. So basicly that can't lead to disappointment.
3393  Local / Gokken/lotterijen / Re: Dicegame Guldencoin (NLG) on: October 12, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
dit mag volgens mij wel omdat guldencoin nog geen wettig betaalmiddel is

Als je een auto of iets dergelijks wint, moet daar alsnog kansspelbelasting over betaald worden. Ik zie het verschil niet tussen dit en mijn voorbeeld hiervoor. Volgens mij is het gewoon niet legaal.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansspelbelasting (onder gewonnen goederen). Daarbij komt nog dat het voor Nederlanders illegaal is om op internet gokken aan te bieden.

EDIT: Misschien slim om hierover gewoon een overheidsinstantie te bellen en te vragen hoe het zit, weet je het gelijk!
3394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 03:45:21 AM
Conspiracy Theory:

Maybe the 30k seller has a lot of more coins and he just wanted some fiat to push up the price. On top of that, the buy of the 30k wall was received quit bullish.

EDIT: Wall seems to be real.
3395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 12, 2014, 03:34:06 AM
9.1 is Very nice. Whats the latest for CPU? still using YAM from june.

There are 3 miners, wolf's, claymore's and yam. Yam is going to release update soon.
There's one more stable miner with 0,7% fee http://club.dns-shop.ru/forum/?p=0&action=thread&id=96075

I have no idea about that miner but I do know that I wouldn't trust a Newbie to point me to download anything. Beware.



I am  also using that miner for a while now, didn't see any problems. Fee is even less than Claymore's miner.

Everyone can make his or her own risk assessment, but if I were downloading a binary (at least I assume it is a binary) from some unknown source I would at a minimum only do it on a computer without any data I care about, and definitely no wallets (XMR or otherwise).

It might be just fine, or it might not. Pretty hard to tell.



Good point, though i am using it on my rigs that hold no data whatsoever, so yeah, people should stick with known stuff on private computers.
I agree but...must say all crypto world is based on trust and it is hard to choose..we trusted Mintpal (moolah) and now....we lose our coins...

This isn't confirmed though is it?

Nothing yet confirmed, maybe you could try to PM moolah on irc. He is in the #dogecoin and #bitcoin channel.
3396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
1550 added in front of the 3000 bidwall.
3397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 11, 2014, 08:30:33 AM
...

But how would Coinbase getting raided be bullish for btc? This would destroy all kinds of businesses acceping btc...

I doubt Coinbase would be shut down as they've gone overboard with their AML. it's just a rumor at this point anyways, probably from an altscam proponent.



I don't think anyone said anything about Coinbase. Here's the original IRC transcript of this rumor:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iujgv/secfincen_preparing_action_against_us_bitcoin/

Appears solely relevant to "Bitcoin 2.0" companies.


The tldr quote:
"[6:08:29 PM] taariq lewis: If you are in USA and you run a Bitcoin Business that issues tokens and you are not registered with FinCen, expect these fines to be established guidelines going forward"

BitsharesX seems vulnerable to this, if true.
Even though it's Invictus Innovation (based in Virginia) that has written the code, BitSharesX was purposefully (to avoid this kind of problems) released by a Hong Kong firm.

That doesn't matter at all if they still have investors/users from the USA.
3398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 11, 2014, 08:17:47 AM
I have a decent amount of XMR stuck on Mintpal...

Does anyone have information as to when their shit will be sorted and we can withdraw?

Not to scare you but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=817041.0

Maybe you should head over to their IRC channel.
3399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 09, 2014, 10:56:31 PM
Since monero is already on the top of the list at Cryptsy, we should now focus on btc38. If added to btc38, we could target a very big asian market.

http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html

Currently at #14
3400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 02:40:04 PM
Instead of 1000 BTC marketdumps we're now seeing 1000 BTC marketbuys?  Grin
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