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3421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: How can Cryptsy.com serve you better? Still the #1 Digital Currency Exchange! on: October 04, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
Add XMR


and also...


In the chat box, make it so that Private Mentions are in a different coloured font.

We have one project that is preventing XMR from a listing today. I like the coin and its got a strong community so have little doubt it will make it in.

We will bring more features to chat in the coming months its on our roadmap.

Could you elaborate a bit more on this?
3422  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: October 04, 2014, 05:05:06 PM
When you say GLD are you talking about Goldcoin, that coin being shilled by MicroGuy? Isn't this nothing buy a shitty pump and dump? I haven't got none of these . Right now im 80% BTC and 20% XMR. Always interested in quick ways to make money tho so... how do you see entering GLD now?

He is talking about the Gold ETF, no coins involved here Smiley
3423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Is double bottom bullish or bearish?

Does it matter the second bottom is lower or higher than the first?

Double bottom is bullish, double top is bearish.

Second bottom higher would be better, since we have higher lows going on then.
3424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 03, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
The price crashed within 5 minutes of BCX threat on Poloniex trollbox, with very large volume. It seemed that at least one very large holder did cash out because of the threat.
You may call him "weak hand", but certainly he had enough to move the market.

I call him Santa Claus.

The threat was (likely intentionally) issued at a time when me and several other large holders were online in the trollbox. I don't know if the other holders sold, but if they did, it was likely in anticipation of a bigger drop (which never materialized, so they bought back at a loss).

What I do remember for certain is that most of the bid side was pulled instead of being sold into, resulting in <50 BTC of bids at the lowest point instead of the normal ~300 BTC and high of >600 BTC. It builded up in minutes after seeing the initial flashcrash to 0.00280.

By the way, contrary to what many think, the higher lows trend has not been violated daily vwap-wise. The last low from August was 0.00305 and lowest during this bottom is 0.00310.

Warz stated in the trollbox he sold about 80% off his stash, but he would buy back if this threat was over.

But then he'll be at loss Sad

rpietila is right, we lose good folks

He said he wouldn't mind that (buying back at a loss), he just wasn't comfertable with the amount off his stash then and the attack. Warz, if this isn't right please correct me!

Why doesn't he just drive over to BCX's place and hand him wads of cash?
It was over when it started.

If he is waiting until BCX declares it over, then he sold his coins to BCX at the bottom and will buy back after BCX pumps it up by deceiding when and how to announce it is 'over'.

Seriously.  If he is thinking of buying back, he shouldn't be waiting on BCX.

I don't know if he already bought back in, just stating what was said then because someone asked if any big holder sold. Don't have more info. But let's see how this plays out.
3425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 02, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
The price crashed within 5 minutes of BCX threat on Poloniex trollbox, with very large volume. It seemed that at least one very large holder did cash out because of the threat.
You may call him "weak hand", but certainly he had enough to move the market.

I call him Santa Claus.

The threat was (likely intentionally) issued at a time when me and several other large holders were online in the trollbox. I don't know if the other holders sold, but if they did, it was likely in anticipation of a bigger drop (which never materialized, so they bought back at a loss).

What I do remember for certain is that most of the bid side was pulled instead of being sold into, resulting in <50 BTC of bids at the lowest point instead of the normal ~300 BTC and high of >600 BTC. It builded up in minutes after seeing the initial flashcrash to 0.00280.

By the way, contrary to what many think, the higher lows trend has not been violated daily vwap-wise. The last low from August was 0.00305 and lowest during this bottom is 0.00310.

Warz stated in the trollbox he sold about 80% off his stash, but he would buy back if this threat was over.

But then he'll be at loss Sad

rpietila is right, we lose good folks

He said he wouldn't mind that (buying back at a loss), he just wasn't comfertable with the amount off his stash then and the attack. Warz, if this isn't right please correct me!
3426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 02, 2014, 05:23:03 PM
The price crashed within 5 minutes of BCX threat on Poloniex trollbox, with very large volume. It seemed that at least one very large holder did cash out because of the threat.
You may call him "weak hand", but certainly he had enough to move the market.

I call him Santa Claus.

The threat was (likely intentionally) issued at a time when me and several other large holders were online in the trollbox. I don't know if the other holders sold, but if they did, it was likely in anticipation of a bigger drop (which never materialized, so they bought back at a loss).

What I do remember for certain is that most of the bid side was pulled instead of being sold into, resulting in <50 BTC of bids at the lowest point instead of the normal ~300 BTC and high of >600 BTC. It builded up in minutes after seeing the initial flashcrash to 0.00280.

By the way, contrary to what many think, the higher lows trend has not been violated daily vwap-wise. The last low from August was 0.00305 and lowest during this bottom is 0.00310.

Warz stated in the trollbox he sold about 80% off his stash, but he would buy back if this threat was over.
3427  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 02, 2014, 09:42:13 AM
Risto only said that there was a 4-8% likelihood this coin wouldn't live next month, that's not the same as BCX wouldn't attack. BCX could still attack but the coin may live on after that..

I am not convinced even he knew what random variable he was computing. You can try to quote him to correct my understanding, but when I read it the first time in private, I got confused. Perhaps I was tired.

And I don't remember it being carefully worded to make it clear he wasn't saying only 4 - 8% chance to be worried about BCX. Seemed to me to be saying, "never mind BCX".

(this soap opera is all about politics?)

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month Smiley

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Here you go.
3428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 02, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
2 da m00n or 2 da dungeon?


I think the price is still under the fear from BCX "attack". He comes on every few days and says he "still has time" ( it was 22 days....)
Until that threat is resolved either way we aren't moving much up or down.

I don't believe anyone with money to move the markets is waiting on that. Weak hands sold, strong hands held, new hands are buying. Business as usual. With a little less Monero-centric worldview you could see that Bitcoin and alts are fighting for their life, so a low price is just sympathy.

The price crashed within 5 minutes of BCX threat on Poloniex trollbox, with very large volume. It seemed that at least one very large holder did cash out because of the threat.
You may call him "weak hand", but certainly he had enough to move the market.

IIRC Warz cashed out a significant portion of his stash. Atleast that is what he said at the trollbox. Plus he is still waiting to buy in again.
3429  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 02, 2014, 09:24:03 AM
I know xulescu addressed this as a misperception, but how can something that happened after the announced attack have contributed to the attack.

Afair, fluffypony did that during the 72 hour countdown, before the decision to attack had become final. I am not referring to the copy+paste of the feedback from the mathematicians, rather the prior exchange upthread.

I believe also Risto's proclamation of the likelihood occurred during the 72 hour countdown.

Hey I am not saying any body did anything out of their roles. This is a soap opera ya know. I'm included.  Embarrassed

Risto only said that there was a 4-8% likelihood this coin wouldn't live next month, that's not the same as BCX wouldn't attack. BCX could still attack but the coin may live on after that..
3430  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: Monero (MRO) - Anonieme CPU coin on: October 01, 2014, 10:47:59 PM
Iemand nog ingekocht? Prijs is vrij gunstig nu!

ik zit al met 66% van mn crypto-investeringen in Monero. Dus niet meer bijgekocht, maar inderdaad, zéér goeie prijs, denk ik Tongue
(het kriebelt wel om nog een paar BTC extra erin te pompen, maar dan is mn exposure echt té groot :p )

Das nogal flink Tongue Maar volgens mij zat jij er ook al een stuk eerder in, voor de exchanges. Toen was de prijs ook nog een stuk lager. Zit momenteel 30-35% en vind het wel even goed zo, eerst eens even kijken hoe alles zich uitspeelt. Kan het mensen wel aanraden trouwens om te investeren, zeker met deze prijs!
3431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - Now open for registration on: October 01, 2014, 09:45:33 PM

I am in favor of sending a message concerning priorities. What we need to efficiently do it, however, is to open the own discussion channel first. (I heard there is a freenode, but am not a member yet.) Then we can do what the voting protocol requires, which is draft the initial proposal for discussion, and then the final proposal to be voted when the discussion ends. The voting is allowed to take 168 hours, but it can be ended when the absolute majority (50%+1 vote of all votes) is reached.

#Mew is taken, but i see there's a #Monero-Mew channel that's invite only. Do we know who runs that channel?

Edit: A private forum would be an option as well. This would assist with voting and keep a semi-permanent record of discussion.

You have to contact davidlatapie for that. Also you have to register otherwise the invite will only work once, doesn't matter if you have a bouncer but if you don't have one you can't get into the channel if you reconnect. I think IRC is better for discussion than a private channel.
3432  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 01, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
So whats the deal with BCX? What has he said recently after nothing happened?  Roll Eyes

whati  don't get is why risto didn't take the 500btc bet

I can think of 2 reasons:

1) information asymmetry.  Risto couldn't possibly know what BCX knows and doesn't know.  

2) Risto could have wisely realized that his 500BTC might have financed the attack.  No bet maybe equals no attack.

how would that 500BTC finance the attack? it would be put in escrow ofcourse just as BCX his 500BTC
meaning that BCX could use 500BTC less for his atack wich might make him actually weaker.. depending on how deep his pockets are..

He meant that BCX would probably use his other BTC to fund the attack in order to win the 500 BTC bet

So how would Risto's 500 finance the attack then? ofcourse BCX would have to use his other BTC to fund the atttack.. he can't use the 500BTC that are in escrow.

Or are you saying that when BCX would have gone "all in" Risto would have taken the bet??

I didn't mean that. Let's say BCX has 1000 BTC, he bets 500 BTC with risto. So 500 is locked up in escrow now. He could use 300 of his remaining BTC to fund the attack now. If the attack succeeds he gets his 500 BTC back out of escrow, plus the 500 from Risto and still has 200 BTC remaining. Which would gain him 200 BTC. I hope you get it now.
3433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 01, 2014, 09:04:26 PM
Interesting, XMR is the only coin in the top 15 (it is 4th) without a BTC address listed to pay for votes.
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/

Shows how well it actually is doing...

IAS

You can still buy cryptsy point to vote, but indeed interesting to see. Also #2 and #3 are pretty much dead if you look at coinmarketcap.com.

Are you sure you can buy cryptsy points? I didn't see any way to do so. I read that the way to earn them is by trading.

See for yourself here: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/

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Alternatively, we are also accepting CryptsyPoints as part of our paid vote program (5 votes per CryptsyPoint). After you cast your free vote, you will then have the option to vote again with your CryptsyPoints as often as you like.
3434  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 01, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
So whats the deal with BCX? What has he said recently after nothing happened?  Roll Eyes

whati  don't get is why risto didn't take the 500btc bet

I can think of 2 reasons:

1) information asymmetry.  Risto couldn't possibly know what BCX knows and doesn't know.  

2) Risto could have wisely realized that his 500BTC might have financed the attack.  No bet maybe equals no attack.

how would that 500BTC finance the attack? it would be put in escrow ofcourse just as BCX his 500BTC
meaning that BCX could use 500BTC less for his atack wich might make him actually weaker.. depending on how deep his pockets are..

He meant that BCX would probably use his other BTC to fund the attack in order to win the 500 BTC bet
3435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 01, 2014, 07:00:18 PM
Interesting, XMR is the only coin in the top 15 (it is 4th) without a BTC address listed to pay for votes.
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/

Shows how well it actually is doing...

IAS

You can still buy cryptsy point to vote, but indeed interesting to see. Also #2 and #3 are pretty much dead if you look at coinmarketcap.com.
3436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 01, 2014, 06:58:16 PM
Monero has some exchange rates i see 1monero=1.18$

You can also use coinmarketcap.com for this, the show the average weighted price and the price across all exchanges.
3437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 01, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
I would love to see XMR added to BTC-e.

Looks like it may get on Cryptsy first
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

It's been up for vote for almost a day and it is up to 4th with 8561 as of this moment.

I don't care about cryptsy, we need XMR/USD and XMR/EUR pair at BTC-e Wink
That will be HUGE

A XMR/BTC pair so start with would already be huge. I think BTC-e is very interested in the anonymity Monero provides. Don't we have some russian speaking members? Tongue

Are we ready for HUGE?

Personally I think we're not and organic growth would be better. I didn't say they should add it now, but maybe if they hear about it more often they will do some research into Monero themselves. But that's pure hypothetical.
3438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 01, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
I would love to see XMR added to BTC-e.

Looks like it may get on Cryptsy first
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

It's been up for vote for almost a day and it is up to 4th with 8561 as of this moment.

I don't care about cryptsy, we need XMR/USD and XMR/EUR pair at BTC-e Wink
That will be HUGE

A XMR/BTC pair to start with would already be huge. I think BTC-e is very interested in the anonymity Monero provides. Don't we have some russian speaking members? Tongue
3439  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 30, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
What attack day # are we on now? Like 8? 9? 10?

 Cheesy

Almost 10 days, XMR is down 14% since then, so, I would say the attack was only minimally successful. I think BCX has the ability to disrupt the blockchain but only for minutes at a time.

Speaking of that, there hasn't been a new Monero block in 20 minutes.. 

Check this: http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

Looking fine
3440  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: Monero (MRO) - Anonieme CPU coin on: September 30, 2014, 10:10:05 PM
Iemand nog ingekocht? Prijs is vrij gunstig nu!
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