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2921  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Deutscher Community Thread on: June 21, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Monero erwähnt:

http://cointelegraph.de/news/114633/elliptic-die-bitcoin-der-anderen-und-der-anoncoin-widerstand
2922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 21, 2015, 08:48:19 PM
Any german speaking Monero Dev able to give a short comment on the Elliptic announcement and why XMR is not affected?
Preferably in German and in a short way a noob could understand?
Need a quote for a german article about Elliptic and why Anoncoins could benefit.

Sorry if I appear ignorant, but what are you referring to? The release of their "big bang" product? What does it have to do with Monero and German?

Hi, I am referring to this:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114604/good-bitcoin-bad-bitcoin-blockchain-analytics-and-fungibility

We (cointelegraph.DE, so the german site) are writing an article about it as well and I`d like to have a "soundbite" to quote in this context (quoted from the article above):

"“Hence my view,” says Vays, “that if bitcoin becomes legal and controlled, there will be an anoncoin that will rise to the top and be 30 to 40% of Bitcoin market cap, and many useless jobs in the government will be added to endlessly fight against it."

If I'm not mistaken , Othe can translate English to German. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=265368



For your interest, Monero mentioned:

http://cointelegraph.de/news/114633/elliptic-die-bitcoin-der-anderen-und-der-anoncoin-widerstand

Great article and thanks for mentioning us!
2923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 21, 2015, 04:41:30 PM
Crosspost from another thread:

2924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 21, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Problem with wallet download link? Huh

Should be working fine now!
2925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 21, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
Any german speaking Monero Dev able to give a short comment on the Elliptic announcement and why XMR is not affected?
Preferably in German and in a short way a noob could understand?
Need a quote for a german article about Elliptic and why Anoncoins could benefit.

Sorry if I appear ignorant, but what are you referring to? The release of their "big bang" product? What does it have to do with Monero and German?

He probably wants to know in which way and why Monero is not affected by the sophisticated chainanalysis Elliptic is performing.
2926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 21, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
Any german speaking Monero Dev able to give a short comment on the Elliptic announcement and why XMR is not affected?
Preferably in German and in a short way a noob could understand?
Need a quote for a german article about Elliptic and why Anoncoins could benefit.

You shoud shoot othe (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=265368) a PM to see if he is willing to do this. He is one of the core team members and speaks German. I also send him a message so that he is aware of your request (not sure if he has seen it yet).

EDIT: In addition, try #monero or #monero-dev on freenode, he is there most of the day(s).
2927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 19, 2015, 03:59:26 PM
With all the bear talk in here... i wonder why there is basically nothing up for sale to the  .0023 -.0024 level? One decent buy clears the June 8th high, shorts closing not even considerd.

Don't get burned.


--snip--

via Imgflip Meme Maker

Told by whom exactly? Oh yeah, I remember now! It was you:

I would not be surprised if Monero will be traded with multiples of bitcoins each.
Many who did not buy now will kick their legs for it.

I am looking prophetically to the day when Bitcoin is one of Monero's altcoins.  Wink

Oh and this page is full of similar statements:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=375390;sa=showPosts;start=100

And this one as well (partly) -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=375390;sa=showPosts;start=120

Please refrain from this kind of trolling and just leave the threat. You don't add anything significant to the conversation. Neither in bearish times, nor in bullish times.
2928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 19, 2015, 01:26:33 PM
I don't think those that play with margin here are really taking any positions in significant amounts as some imply. But I just guess.

Does anyone know of hard numbers?

No hard numbers are revealed (yet). However, poloniex did state that they would make and release something similar as to bfxdata.
2929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 18, 2015, 02:47:55 PM

paste this chart again next month... there is a reason lots of bitcoiners did not bothered with altcoins until Monero, of course doubling you money in 30 days is nice but we need to focus on the big picture, also I would feel better promoting Monero to the big exchanges once we have the DB in a tagged version.

My intent is not to diss monero. I'm trying to understand what is going on in the crypto-coin market right now.

Chinese love to gamble and the altcoins that went up are almost all on BTC38. There are massive pumps going on there occasionally. Neither DASH nor XMR is listed there or on BTC-E. The "fools" will see the soar and just buy in and ride the wave because they think it will soar further (greater fools theory). It's not that hard to understand :p
2930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 18, 2015, 01:27:01 PM
Any speculation regarding why XMR isn't participating in the current alts pump/rotation ? LTC is +98% over 30 days, XMR is -8% ?

I was thinking about this too a couple of days ago, but it seems that most altcoins were either pumped on BTC-E or BTC38 and XMR is not implemented on both. So this could be a reasonable explanation why it wasn't "pumped".

EDIT: In addition, most people just want to ride the wave and pick the most accessible altcoin(s).
2931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 18, 2015, 11:57:49 AM
While I personally don't like Cryptsy XMR has been at the top of the voting list there for a looooong time.

https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

AFAIK they also got help from the XMR devs to integrate it, so what's up with this?

Going to quote myself here:

I just voted for Monero to be listed on Cryptsy. You are currently in 2nd position with 27,170 votes.  Smiley

Unfortunately, I don't think it will do any good. Monero was at the 1st position for a few weeks months ago and was not added.

But thanks for your effort.

Rumours say that cryptsy will get a revamp the coming months and that with this revamp some 2.0 Coins ( non Bitcoin-Clone code ) will be added... so maybe we will see XMR Wink

To add some sources: http://www.polonibox.com/?messageId=2973184

Horus is accounts security manager @ cryptsy -> https://twitter.com/Horusisthesun/

this is good news, thank you for keeping us informed.

One should keep in mind that they don't have a single (except Ripple & NXT) coin listed with a different codebase than BTC.
2932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 18, 2015, 07:35:29 AM
From reddit:

Monero Proof for your timestamping needs
Quote
Sorry I posted this a couple of times in the past hour, the first time I accidentally deleted it, and then it used the suggested title which I didn't want. In any case, if you need to hash and timestamp a file on the monero blockchain you can use:
https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/MoneroProof.py

Note that I have only tested this on a few files I needed to hash, example file hash sent:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/8d3cd06528f92194a8f296ef6e08c5a820c3fef0a525b4d46752d58295b7503e

So I wouldn't send more than the trace amount needed for hashing to these address it generates.

2933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 18, 2015, 07:29:25 AM
Exchange.I2P Darknet CryptoCurrency Exchange : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092682

According to this Monero isnt going to be listed. At least at the start.

His reasoning can be found below. Perhaps one of the XMR core devs can inquire further and find a solution:

"The issue with cryptonote coins is that the server must run a node anonymously. Bitcoin based altcoins can be run over tor, monero etc cannot. This increases the risk of demasking."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg11646812#msg11646812

Run your node inside whonix or another torified VM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/31ciuf/questions_running_monero_over_whonix/

If you don't have the technical expertise to set this up, I'd question whether you should be running a "dark" exchange at all..
Yo, thanks for the link. I asked in IRC #monero-dev and nobody really had any experience doing it. I had tried to force it to run via torify and it was giving exceptions that i pasted there. I will try to fuck around with it a bit more when i have time and see what happens.

Try again during daytime (talking about GMT - GMT+2 timezone here), most devs are online during that time, so I think you'll get a better answer then.
2934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 17, 2015, 11:08:56 PM
From twitter -> https://twitter.com/CoinomiWallet/status/611301466452684800

https://coinomi.com/AddingSupportForANewCurrency/

You can basically add yourself. Unfortunately I am technically capable to do this, but this seems like a nice project to raise some funds for.
2935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 17, 2015, 10:55:04 PM
screenshot:



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg11551549#msg11551549

I2P exchange coming soon. We should try to see if they are willing to add XMR.

In addition:

We are in fact ahead of schedule. It looks like we may launch as much as a week early. All the features necessary to launch are complete. We are capable of launching a finished product right now but are doing more security related tests and adjusting the code for margin trading and short sales.  If you would like to view the demo site (hosted on low bandwith server). Demo accounts are funded with sample balances to experiment with our trading platform. The link is: http://fclgyds4otcwiwwlsqh6x3q6x54ws5qapythrtefg2ceyoa5vzsq.b32.i2p

We are planning on offering trading pairs for about 30 coins. Various privacy focused and higher volume coins.

We support optional GPG based 2 factor authentication and encrypted i2pbote email alerts for the most secure and private user experience possible. Its even possible to create GPG based passwordless/usernameless accounts.

I guess XMR will fall into that category.
2936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ShapeShift.io - Instant Coin Exchange - No Account Needed on: June 17, 2015, 07:26:51 PM
ShapeShift.io and Coinomi.com have teamed-up to allow for instant altcoin exchanges within Coinomi's multi-coin, universal wallet! Do your exchanges between coins without having to leave your wallet.



Pretty neat, props! Does this work with XMR as well?

EDIT: Just stumbled upon the press release (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/06/prweb12784418.htm) and see that XMR is not integrated (yet). Could you elaborate on why it isn't integrated? And do you have future plans to integrate it?
2937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: June 17, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
Since this applies to XMR as well -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=93&v=bia50HSf2VM

Context: https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/611243700753072128

Pretty impressive in my opinion.

EDIT: It doesn't work with XMR (yet). My first assumption was that it would work with all the avaible coins on shapeshift, but this isn't the case (yet). I asked them if they have any future plans to integrate and why it isn't integrated yet.
2938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 17, 2015, 06:51:24 PM
shapshift has not enough liquidity. also no real price detection can happen there.  its a nice service, but can not replace an exchange.
the only real untraceable coin can only be bougth through a KYC exchange. What worries me most is that i seem to be the only one worrying Lips sealed
Its not becasue of me. but i think some of our potential users could be hindered by this. and users is what we need and what we want.

You are certainly not the only one worrying about it.

Bittrex is available, but liquidity isn't great, and who knows how long it'll be 'til they have KYC as well. Barely seems worth it to try to move liquidity there if it's going to end up the same way.

So yes, it'd be nice to have another exchange. How do we get one? Smiley

Since Bittrex and Cryptsy are both US based one can reasonably expect they will (have to) implement KYC as well in the foreseeable future. So I guess that leaves us with the following options: BTC38 and/or Bitfinex. BTC38 has a voting list as well -> http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html, but you can only register on there with a QQ or Facebook handle, which is de facto also KYC. For Bitfinex, perhaps we could make a proposition or talk to them once the next tagged version (with DB) is out. I think they might be interested if we could move all volume there and someone (or the devs) helps them integrate it. In my opinion that wouldn't be difficult, since people generally prefer non KYC exchanges over KYC exchanges. The KYC is just another hurdle most people don't want to take to buy an alt. Furthermore, Bitfinex is a big and reputable exchange.  
2939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 17, 2015, 06:45:03 PM
While I personally don't like Cryptsy XMR has been at the top of the voting list there for a looooong time.

https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

AFAIK they also got help from the XMR devs to integrate it, so what's up with this?

Going to quote myself here:

I just voted for Monero to be listed on Cryptsy. You are currently in 2nd position with 27,170 votes.  Smiley

Unfortunately, I don't think it will do any good. Monero was at the 1st position for a few weeks months ago and was not added.

But thanks for your effort.

Rumours say that cryptsy will get a revamp the coming months and that with this revamp some 2.0 Coins ( non Bitcoin-Clone code ) will be added... so maybe we will see XMR Wink

To add some sources: http://www.polonibox.com/?messageId=2973184

Horus is accounts security manager @ cryptsy -> https://twitter.com/Horusisthesun/
2940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 17, 2015, 05:47:51 PM
i think the current (non existing) moves in price reflect the lack of infrastructure at least to some degree. Polo is the only liquid exchange. Xmr is one of the only coins that are not possible to buy without registering.
this is a handicap. people are lazy and will always be.

it really depends on what btc does the next few days i think. the xmr buy side is exhausted, there has been no recovery since the last outflow some days ago.

How did DASH manage to get on Bitfinex? Did they pay for it?

Dug this up:

I'd bet that BFX started accepting DRK after possibly some underhanded negotiation convinced BFX that accepting DRK would posture BFX as the leading premier exchange of the fancy newfangled anonymous coin of the future, supported by certain DRK whales' (ahem, Otoh) assurances to make the market.

It may be prudent for someone to eloquently notify them that this is not the case, and the only public decentralized cryptocurrency protocol that has proven anonymity is CryptoNote. Also, that the structuring of DRK's coin distribution is too reminiscent of a pyramid scheme. They could save their amazing exchange a lot of face...

With the precedence set by the SEC of Pakistan...
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/04/05/leocoin-yet-another-bitcoin-alt-with-links-to-ponzi-schemes/

...it is all the more likely that the rather conspicuous signs of rats fleeing the sinking ship that is DRK suggest that they too realize such a risk is presented by the instamine + masternode reward scheme:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0

Moncada [masternode] openly stated in via thread that dark is on bitfinex only because of him. He further said he knows big names and can make dark reach places

Sounds bullish imo. Any project would benefit from people who can make things happen.
It definitely was, and an excellent move on their part. On BFX's part I'm sure they got good commissions, but now, the picture doesn't seem as clear.

&

Anybody knows someone from Bitfinex?

BTW - Does anyone know about this? Were Darkcoin scammers trying to increase the supply at will?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7z840EcKjGNr7jZTwHL1u5HDTGNqHeeCszrR0Iy1J8/edit?pli=1
My colleagues at Omni work pretty closely with Giancarlo, their CFO, and I've had friendly chats with him and Raphael,  but I think it should be a matter of merit that convinces BFX to exchange XMR. Edward Moncada, Darkcoin Foundation member and one of Otoh's good buddies, told me he worked together with Otoh to convince (probably bribe) BFX to accept DRK. We should just present a good economic case instead and build up volume organically to the point BFX and other exchanges realize they're missing out on commissions/a great posturing opportunity. This is probably easy when the devs finish the official release (not so easy).
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