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741  Economy / Economics / Re: A cryptocurrency with volatility can't be used as money on: May 12, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
I'm just reading an article in the newspaper. Klaus W. Wellershoff (a last chief in UBS Bank) says that's impossible to use a currency with volatility as money. If the value of the money decrease, that means the value of the merchandise decrease. For example : if you buy a flat with bitcoin and few years later the bitcoin value decrease... Your flat lose his value as well.

What do you think about this argument?
Buying a flat with bitcoin and because bitcoin reduces in value, your flat value reduces as well ? Are you really high right now ?
By flat, I am sure you are talking about a house in the literal term and for heaven sake, you have nothing to lose buying the flat in the equivalent amount you could have gotten it.

The only person who may have something to lose would be the person that actually sold the flat to you probably not converting to fiat and then the value of bitcoin drops in value which makes the idea of not using bitcoin as money comes to play but your example is totally off.
742  Economy / Economics / Re: What are the challenges for investment with Small capital? on: May 12, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
Small-scale investment should have extra patience because it takes a long time to pioneer it becomes big.
Yeah, extra patience with a very good plan. Like they always say, if you fail to plan, then you plan to fail, irrespective of the capital you are starting with. That is one thing most people do not always understand.

The only difference with starting with big or small capital is just the time it would take you to achieve your objective, but without plans, even for both, it would still end up failing anyway. You can start small and make it big and you can still start big and then end up making it smaller or vice versa.
743  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Learnings from crash on: May 12, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
it is very important because in the future there will be success and there are accidents as well. so it's natural in trying to have things we do not want. the important thing is never to despair because of failure or accident that we ever experienced and that too also make our lesson for the future can be better
Yes. The most important thing in failure is that you should not be discouraged, it is an extremely important factor to help you succeed in the future. We may be afraid of failure, but let's look at them as a lesson.
Once you are down, you could never ever get up again. You need to work in good aspects while things are okay and you need to work good as well even when things got changed. If you are loser sometime, don’t just stick with it. Life is so long and it is a chain of opportunities and chances so don’t just worry and devastated for a loss of one chance. There are so many more to come.
Are you serious ?
Only a born failure would get down and never get up.
It is normal to fail and make mistakes once in a while, but what makes you a winner at the end is learning from it and doing it better next time. There has not been any one in this world who is totally perfect and those who are close to being perfect have made so many mistakes and learned from those experience to be able to do things better.

Hence the idea of you not being able to get down when you get up is just absurd.
744  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Massive loss 40% underwater on: May 11, 2018, 05:00:31 AM
The only thing that makes sense is that you only lose when you sell, but that's not something people think about because of how fiat centric they are. In the same way, you only book profits when you sell.
I do not even know why someone would want to be selling when the idea they had initially was to enjoy the long term benefit of the market they are holding on to and that is really baffling considering how some just do not always get it. If you are not trading on the short term, no one really should have any business selling out of panic because obviously, they would not even know when to even buy back and the market sure waits for no one unless they just end up getting lucky but this is not gambling, this is investment.

When planning a transaction you always need a stoploss point to be able to zoning and minimize the risk, the price of that lucf is cutloss.
Stop-loss must be the only thing which would have prevented those massive losses. But for bitcoin trading, I guess we do not need to go for cutting the losses early unless otherwise we are not ready to hold for some more time. Because bitcoin prices are always known for bouncing back from any kind of downfall.
745  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What I Should Know Before i Start Trading Cryptocurrency on: May 10, 2018, 07:18:33 PM
when trading you must know the way first so you do not lose your money many cases when trading but they do not know how to trade and get profit for Hodl and Shell I suggest Hodl coin you because cryptocurenncy very hard to know with our mind
Like most people here always say, you may never know if you do not try. Normally, it would be stupid of anyone to just hop into trading without at least making sure they are very vast and have a great level of knowledge to be able to trade safely. So many people usually do not do this and this is the main reason why they always end up screwing things up since all they do is gamble their position in the market without any plan or strategy whatsoever.

Trading brings a lot of profit for traders and can also bring a lot of losses for those who are foolish enough to think they can do anything without learning.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In Venezuela, opened a 7-star hotel, accepting only El Petro on: May 10, 2018, 06:06:32 PM
Kind of seems like a get-rich-quick scheme, or maybe the government just wants their share of the crypto profit. Interesting to see what will come out of it.
Looking past at the history of governance in Venezuela, I really do not think the government is really bound to use that petro to help the economy but simply to enrich themselves lol. I am saying this because in the past, many coins had done that exactly.

It is becoming obvious that this is not going to really make much waves and it apparently does not solve any problem since it is controlled anyway and would definitely still not stop some level of corruption that has dug in so deep. Not like that was the plan though except I feel some are just bound to get themselves richer from it.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Currency is fastest way to get rich ? on: May 09, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
It can be fastest way to get rich and fastest way to get broke. it depends there's risk of course
Those who are seeing it as the easy way out are the type that fall a victim of scammers at the end. The reason being that they do not do proper investigation on what they are investing in, they are pretty much just busy trying to see how they can at least get rich quickly by holding just anything with so many emphasis on quantity than quality and this way, a lot of them rather than making money as investors only ended up losing much more.

Making some money from cryptos may seem easier for many people as of now. But if you notice, many consistent money is not yet possible here in crypto world. Making some money is not a thing, I always look for but a consistent one because that alone may help to rise my future.
748  Economy / Economics / Re: Feeling bitter in banks? on: May 09, 2018, 02:50:45 PM
I have notice that some of us here in the forum have this kind of bitterness feeling in banking sectors. They always compare banks and cryptocurrency and to the extent that they want to eradicate banks and to be replace by crypto. Are you sick and tired of reading this kind of post?
Yeah! You're right. Why there are so many people who compared banks and crytptocurrency. Banks will always remain for a long time and so as cryptocurrency. So we with them as part of our life.
I am not sure my annoyance with the banks will really be lower than anyone else but I totally agree with you that this would not eradicate the banking sector no matter what as they would still always remain relevant and that would be too much to expect anyway for those who think banks would just fade off one day.

Worst part is that they would find a way to blend into rendering services in the cryptocurrency sector with some form of regulation by the government.
749  Economy / Economics / Re: Can it be possible for the whole wide world use a single currency? on: May 09, 2018, 02:15:46 PM
I think that Bitcoin can be use as a matter of fact to be globally accepted. What is your take and which currency can you suggest to be accepted globally?

It is possible if government will also allow it to happen in their country since not all of the countries do really like bitcoins because of its growth that cannot be easily controlled.
Government allowing it to happen in their country does not mean they will allow it to take over the centralized fiat system.
You think governments all over the world will want to give up their currency for a decentralized digital currency ?

You better think again, because that is a total level of impossibility. Sure, we may get to see regulation and adoption of cryptocurrency with each country playing its own role the way she best fit, but it would only be in par with the normal currency and I see this space ending more like stocks in the long run.
750  Economy / Economics / Re: As Altcoin Popularity Grows So Does Crime; Is Regulation Keeping Up? on: May 09, 2018, 01:42:55 PM
Here's a nice read on the growth of cryptocurrency vis-a-vis the attacks that seem to hinder it also:

"Since they first hit financial markets, and moreso as their popularity expands, cryptocurrencies—specifically the decentralized digital technology that underlies alt-currencies—have also been a lure for individuals looking for an efficient way to hide their identities, activities and illegal financial transactions. Even as the number and types of tokens proliferate, certain alt-currencies have also become the aiders and abbetors of criminal activity, darkside coins if you will."


Read the rest of the writeup here: https://www.investing.com/analysis/as-cryptocurrencies-proliferate-so-do-certain-criminal-activities-200302190


Well, what do you mean by that? What you need to abandon technical progress, because some criminals can use these inventions for their own purposes? Many digital coins, such as monero, Zcash, Dash have a very high degree of anonymity and can be used and will be used by criminals. This is inevitable and natural. Let the law enforcement bodies deal with this problem. , this is their work. And we will do our own thing.
I am sure the law enforcement is actually finding a way to deal with that and over time, lol; we will get to know what stands for the future of these currencies.

For instance, Japan passed a new policy on exchanges removing any anonymous coin by June and if every other country starts taking this cause, I believe there may not be enough room for reputable exchanges for these coins anymore. Crime has been in existence, and this has made it easy for the perpetrators and obviously we cannot expect government to keep silent about it.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: May 08, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
A gamblers mindset is always on gambling, on numbers and winning big. A gambler always gambles a lot of money and always loses. I mean if you're gambling I really don't think there are people that are entering with a mindset of losing.

maybe they just only thinking about gambling and winning big but not all gamblers have this mindset because I think there is a gambler that only wants to enjoy the game only and not thinking about the winning big. but I agree that we need to change our mindset to not always thinking about gambling only and we should think how much losses that we can get in gambling games.
If you ask me friend, it really does not matter what is the reason behind playing this game if a person is losing his hard earned money anyway. Condemning the reason won’t stop him from paying so better to focus on how keeping a gambler away from this. Fun seekers and money seekers are no different from each other when it comes to becoming an addict or setting no limits.
You are right anyway. If we are really to take a good look at it, fun seekers only use that as a way to caution themselves and it is not really like anyone in these two categories would love losing anyway.

I wonder why I would keep dishing out a huge load of money just for the sake of trying to win based on luck which I practically know the house edge have far better chances than I do. As long as there is anyone who does not set a limit for themselves in gambling, then it is the start of a colossal destruction for them.
752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New gambling ideas on: May 08, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
I don’t know if you are just fishing for ideas but I think it could work because some people would say their ideals truthfully. If you manage to create something unique and new  to the table of casinos. Well It’s probably going to work. Hopefully you could make it.
Something unique from what is being done is one thing he would need to come up with and that would not be an easy thing as it would require some high level of hard work to come up with. The thing is that, it is a big space and there would always be a lot of gamblers who are willing to try out new things. The only idea anyone can come up with now is something that I believe it is already being done in some of the known websites unless he is thinking of bringing new games.
753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most trustable and famous gambling website? on: May 07, 2018, 06:15:20 AM
I can suggest to you PrimeDice for dice gambling and Fortune Jack if you like other games. The dice game on Fortune Jack is okay too and there's 523 sats faucet(limited to several claims per day) and the auto roll there is even faster than that on PD but FJ doesn't have such great community as you can see on PD chat and PD Forum and also there are many challenges, quizzes etc. on PD where you can win some sats. So I prefer hanging out on PD becuase it's a real fun. Smiley
I think all the gambling sites are present just to make you fool and take money out of your pockets and I wonder how easily they play games on people and they are unaware and thinking that these sites are trustworthy. The biggest game they play with you is when you are signing up to make an account. They take every single detail from you which means that they have a hold on your data.
Yes all the gambling sides have their edge to make money and let you lose, but i think that it they are exceeding the limit then their gambling site will become defame and people will not try to use their platform for playing gambling, in fact a number of online casinos are there and they have good competition to provide best service to people.
You cannot call all gambling sites are here to fool the gamblers. It is their business model and all gamblers must need to pay their fee for their gambling activities. I mean to say gambling industry itself designed in a manner that will give you hopes but will never let you make money. If gamblers will be able to make money from gambling then how such an industry will survive ?

Yes, even a gambler is playing with highly reputed house, there will be no guarantee that he will be able to make his fortunes. Even highly experienced the gamblers also making losses but probably they are betting with the very small amount so that they are able to play for long run. There are many strategies like these but unfortunately no gamblers are not giving importance to know them.

Before getting into gambling, we must work on different surviving strategies of gambling. Finding a reputed gambling site must be one of them but that alone will not help any gambler to survive for long run with their gambling activities.
754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time to buy bitcoin! on: May 06, 2018, 06:45:00 AM
This time is the best to buy bitcoin to get big profit when it gets high again. Bitcoin price now is approximately USD 6,702.
You should buy bitcoin now because maybe later price will go up. Buy or trade bitxoin now.
Edit:Here is a chart.
I have a chart here that will prove that this time is the best to buy bitcoin.  It seems like bitcoin price spikes down. This is only for today's chart.


Yes, you were right about growth. You must make more predictions.
Forget about predictions. If you are basing your decisions based on some predictions, then you are really going to be setting yourself ablaze when things do not go as you expect.

The market is very volatile, accept that and stick to it, and while doing that, believe that no matter what happens, you are still going to be holding anyway, so learn to only invest what will end up giving you peace of mind if the market is not even moving as expected and that would even give you more chance to buy more.
755  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Will bitcoin disappear in the future? on: May 06, 2018, 06:07:10 AM
Bitcoin is nice to help the community, the people, help reduce the unemployment rate. But let's not forget that bitcoin and crypto are a market that is not legally guaranteed as well as rules and regulations to ensure an important future position. Any adjustment can have a negative impact on the market.

These are just the rumors which are being spread by the people who don’t even know about bitcoin and that they don’t have any kind of information or technical knowledge which can help them in telling the future of the bitcoin or any other crypto coin.

Nothing like that will happen and that all the crypto coins especially bitcoin will remain there and that all these coins will help their investors in making more money.
I don’t think so that bitcoin has so far given us any such reason because of which we can claim this thing that the future of the bitcoin is in danger and that bitcoin will not be able to survive in the coming days or so. In fact, I can see a very colorful and bright future of not only bitcoin but the entire crypto market and that they will surely be able to make much better name amongst the people.
Firstly, asking questions about future is even always funny as if we all know what the future is going to be holding for any of us, let alone bitcoin.

Secondly, this is a market that is obviously here to stay and I do not for any reason see how anything would end up affecting bitcoin negatively to the point where it is going to disappear. However, it is a good risk to take when trying to compare the profit to the loss ratio, and for that reason, it is an investment almost everyone would want to be a part of.
756  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trader or Gamblers. on: May 05, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
i think trading in alts is closer to gambling then it is to investing. there are a lot of factors you have no influence in, and this market is still young and unproven. then people get emotional after losing some money and make decisions based on that are basically gambling.
Trading alt is just as much as trading any market and you are only going to be gambling when of course the only thing you know about trading is to buy low and sell high without knowing how to go about it. I am very sure this is the position a lot of people always end up finding themselves in the long run as they end up screwing everything up in a matter of time due to their lack of knowledge. Gambling is gambling and trading is trading, but once you are trading without knowledge, then you are gambling.
757  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 4 factors that could destroy your Trading on: May 05, 2018, 02:31:18 PM
The first destroying factor is starting to trade without any knowledge or learning. This is the main thing that gives room for every other negativity such as emotion, making bad decisions and so on, which would always make the trader to always end up in a bad situation most of the time. It is one thing to want to trade, and it is another thing to be dedicated to learning.

Traders never stop learning, and that is what makes them a pro till date. If a trader cannot find time to learn then it would be better quitting trading career. Because, instead of struggling with improper way of trading, it would be better not to trade.
758  Economy / Economics / Re: Low BTC price is good for Bitcoins at the moment. on: May 05, 2018, 10:52:42 AM
lower price may get the interest of certain people who are waiting, but most people wait too long. they always buy when the price is going up as they see it as a good sign. these people don't have the balls to buy when the price is going down.
But as per perfect-investment-plans criteria, you should not buy all at once. It means you should expect prices to go down to buy more at any level. If you are following this, you will never run out of money to buy again when prices are going down.

low price of bitcoin if good for us too,  we can buy more bitcoin with our money to makes investment, as long we trust in bitcoin will rising up we should buy bitcoin as many as we can when the price is low, we can see that last week the price of bitcoin is lower than now,and right now the price of bitcoin will back to normal price around $10000++
That is the main essence which is trusting in the long term of what you are holding and believing that we aren't even going to have any stall in growth as far as this market is concerned. The thing is that the market will always respond most times the way it is being perceived, so the little fluctuations in between are very normal and some of the things we cannot avoid anyway. Hopefully with this movement, we will get to see the value of bitcoin hitting $10000 in the next few days.
759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expected predictions on: May 05, 2018, 10:20:09 AM
I agree to this, first four months went bad but we will see huge growth at the end. Once it reaches the $20000 mark, there will be huge media coverage and it will sky rocket from there on.
April was not exactly bad. It was not at all. To be more precise, month of January, February and March were part of bleeding market and I also don’t consider dip as a bad time. Now people are wishing to see low price of bitcoin because they want to buy it while same people did not bother to invest in it when it was suffering from dip. At that time, everyone was like, “bitcoin is about to die”.
Obviously in the long run, bitcoin would go higher than it is now, since it obviously cannot remain stagnant. However, based on your last statement, we have to understand that the higher and higher this year that you have mentioned may not necessarily be the case.

As long as the market is concerned, we will get to see some pretty good sideways movement for the meantime, because we can even start thinking of a bull run that would set us up to a new level of ATH. We still have a lot of days ahead of us anyway. But we can be sure about new ATH to happen within this year 2018. Because when bitcoin will be having price levels near previous peak levels then more people will come to invest and adopt bitcoins. This is an easy prediction anyone can expect.
760  Economy / Economics / Re: What cryptocurrency needs most nowadays on: May 05, 2018, 08:14:52 AM
Cryptocurrency needs proper identity verification
It's the most common thing needed it's the main reason that is stopping CRYPTO to enter real world.

Probably that will be the best thing that are needed in cryptocurrency which is the proper identity and can be additional to this is to have a much suite and much better regulations therefore it cannot easily using by some worst people in their illegal transactions. As we known that there are a lot of news that regards to crypto involvement that's why some other peoplpe are afraid or hesitate to have an involvement in crypto world and maybe the reason why some government are really banned it in their respective countries.
I purely agree on the fact of regulation and that would really usher in some good level of growth in the community. Also, it would obviously affect a lot of coins and tokens that came into the system as pure scams and it would end up being more like cleaning the space.

I believe with this, it would ensure a matured market and with bigger players and institutions setting into the space, we all know the space is not going to keep being what it has always been in the past and that is really good for growth as far as I am concerned.
Identity will only be restricted to exchanges and it does not change the idea that decentralization brings. Yes, most of the exchanges we have had now have been centralized in nature and this is where I see so many decentralized exchanges coming up in the long run as we get to see some good ones that would become more used than centralized.

Regulation is not a bad thing anyway as that should help growth and create peaceful and sane environment for investors. But it usually treated by most of crypto users as an non-acceptable concept against decentralization. Only time may tech us that we may need regulations are not.
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