Thanks for your comments: I incorporated several suggestions. I think that the usefulness of this announcement decays with every passing hour, so I went ahead and posted it. I'll also link to it in the news bar for a couple of weeks. The post can still be edited, of course. Has anyone used the Unstoppable wallet? Is it a good alternative to Trust Wallet? I partially agree... I will fully agree if title is changed to..
"Get your funds bitcoins out of exchanges"
or
Title: Withdraw your crypto bitcoin from online accounts now!
"Withdraw now" strikes me as a bit too alarmist, and I prefer the term "online account". "Exchange" is too narrow, while trying to be more exact with a phrase like "centralized exchanges, yield sites, and many tokens" is too confusing. Note that even USD in exchanges is at risk, whether or not it's a stablecoin or a non-stablecoin account balance. If the exchange goes bankrupt, typically the USD will be an unsecured liability owed to you by the exchange, the same as any other asset associated with your account. But we should warn them to avoid "yield" platforms that promise you a percentage APR because these platforms are inherently unstable.
I agree that yield-farming stuff (whether DeFi or CeFi) is very risky in general, and especially right now when $2-10 billion in "money" was just removed from the crypto economy overnight. I adjusted the wording to emphasize that yield products are included. "Inherently unstable" goes a bit too far, though, IMO. For example, some decentralized exchanges and over-collateralized lending pools seem pretty robust at least in principle, and many of them will probably survive. I would not like officially the forum to mention such wallet names which have business associated with it. You are giving them an advantage from others that are in the market. On the other hand when something will go wrong with any of them mentioned then people will have scope to say they were recommended by bitcointalk forum. We do not want to take any responsibility of anything.
I don't consider it to be an issue. Those clearly are the two leading hardware wallet manufacturers, and merely mentioning them is not an endorsement. |
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When you log into an exchange, yield platform, or other site, and it says that you have a balance of "1 BTC" or "1 USD", this does not actually mean that you have 1 BTC or 1 USD. Rather, it means that the company showing you this balance owes you that money. In other words, you've given a loan to the company. Maybe the company will pay you back, but history is littered with defunct companies which accepted deposits and were widely trusted for years, but which ended up not paying back their depositors in the end. To the greatest extent possible, you should always avoid keeping BTC (or anything else) in online accounts. This is especially important right now because a very large exchange went bankrupt recently; this has already caused a contagion effect which has taken down other companies which accept deposits, and this contagion may continue to spread and affect more companies. Ideally, you should keep as large a percentage as possible of your crypto assets in a wallet where only you control the private keys. Electrum for Android or desktops is one good option. For iOS, there's BlueWallet. If you have a large variety of different crypto assets that you need to store, there's Unstoppable wallet. If you have never used your own trustless wallet before, using a mobile app is probably safer than using a desktop app. An even safer option, which you should definitely consider if you have a lot of crypto assets, is to use a hardware wallet such as Trezor. Also, note that many altcoins, tokens, and DeFi projects are either fundamentally centralized and therefore about as risky as online wallets, or they are still potentially vulnerable to the recent wave of insolvencies due to the way that they're designed. |
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I don't like the idea of a permanent banner, but a post in Important Announcements isn't a bad idea, especially since the FTX contagion is likely to cause several more bankruptcies over the coming weeks/months. Because the FTX issue is likely to trigger bankruptcies soon, this is time-sensitive, and so it'd be best to post it in the next ~36 hours. A quick draft: Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts
When you log into a site and it says that you have a balance of "1 BTC" or "1 USD", this does not actually mean that you have that money. Rather, it means that the company showing you this balance owes you that money. In other words, you've given a loan to the exchange. Maybe the exchange will pay you back, but history is littered with defunct exchanges which were widely trusted at the time but ended up not paying back their depositors.
To the greatest extent possible, you should always avoid keeping BTC (or anything else) in online accounts. This is especially important right now because a very large exchange went bankrupt recently, and this may cause a contagion effect which will take down other sites which accept deposits.
Ideally, you should keep your BTC in a wallet where only you control the private keys. Here are some good options:
<insert list here>
Also, note that many DeFi systems are either fundamentally centralized despite using DeFi tokens/contracts and are therefore about as risky as online wallets, or they are potentially vulnerable to the FTX contagion due to the way that they're designed. <maybe insert more details here?>
Which are the best wallets for total newbies? Anyone who will actually need the advice in this post will need something very easy, so I don't want to list something too difficult. Probably I should just list one app for iPhone, one app available on Android via Google Play, and maybe one hardware wallet. (Linux/Windows/Mac wallets are too risky for newbies, I think.) I'm not very familiar with DeFi systems. Should more be said about them? |
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I adjusted the results to remove votes that shouldn't count: 1) only Member+ votes will count, where copper membership does not on its own count as Member; and 2) users who haven't made a post in the year between the time of this post and 1 year ago will not be counted".
After adjustment, the results are: +-------------------+---------------+
| user | adjustedVotes |
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| fadhilz123 | 21 |
| Sarah Azhari | 19 |
| dark1234 | 11 |
| MoparMinningLLC | 7 |
| johnyz | 6 |
| Deviljr | 6 |
| crypto sufixe | 4 |
| Jatiluhung | 3 |
| tjtonmoy | 2 |
| halim50_ | 2 |
| oncecall123 | 1 |
| Cantsay | 1 |
| Dr.Bitcoin_Strang | 1 |
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I adjusted the results to remove votes that shouldn't count: 1) only Member+ votes will count, where copper membership does not on its own count as Member; and 2) users who haven't made a post in the year between the time of this post and 1 year ago will not be counted".
After adjustment, the results are: +-----------------+---------------+
| user | adjustedVotes |
+-----------------+---------------+
| taufik123 | 32 |
| BigBos | 15 |
| rat03gopoh | 15 |
| LFC_Bitcoin | 12 |
| xsyren | 8 |
| creep_o | 7 |
| Rigon | 6 |
| geophphreigh | 6 |
| polymerbit | 5 |
| KrispyKrypto | 5 |
| Remsjack | 4 |
| cygan | 3 |
| SFR10 | 3 |
| Ahli38 | 3 |
| Marvell1 | 3 |
| henkcryptotank | 2 |
| tread93 | 2 |
| smartaction | 2 |
| xSlyy | 2 |
| Renampun | 1 |
| lMinerl | 1 |
| Die_empty | 1 |
| famososMuertos | 1 |
| Woodie | 1 |
| LDL | 1 |
| Hamza2424 | 1 |
| topman21 | 1 |
| JanEmil | 1 |
| John Abraham | 1 |
| Gallar | 1 |
| inthelongrun | 1 |
| lovesmayfamilis | 1 |
| kamvreto | 1 |
| Porfirii | 1 |
| aoluain | 1 |
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Congrats to taufik123, and thanks to ChiBitCTy and all participants! This was a very fun contest! |
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So many great entries! My favorites are:
1. KrispyKrypto
2. polymerbit
3. BigBos
4. geophphreigh
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Spicy Mexican squash, bean and Bitcoin made with
some of the insides of the pumpkin!
and the real benefit of my pumpkin carving work is that I make a big pot of pumpkin soup
It's nice to see some people actually eating their pumpkins! Every year I see hundreds of pumpkins sitting outside of people's houses and then getting rotten: it makes me feel like it's a secret Halloween ritual where everyone sacrifices perfectly-good-to-eat pumpkins to Nurgle. |
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Added.
One minor point of criticism I have with the site is that in places the issue is framed in a similar way to pro-X/anti-X political action sites, where you're asked to lobby various people. But Bitcoin is meant to escape politics: if you run your own full node, you can't be subject to changes to Bitcoin which you don't consent to, regardless of what anyone else does.
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This month 130 users were eligible. Old: theymos
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Note that I've decided to suspend ad sales. These auctions will probably be permanently ended, and I'm not sure whether or in what form advertising in general will be continued. Maybe some ads will go up again fairly soon, or maybe there will never be any more ads; I haven't decided yet. The main reasons for this decision are: Firstly, I'm finding it too difficult to determine which services are legit/safe and which are not. It takes me 30+ minutes to research each new service to reach at least some level of confidence in it, but at the end of this I often still don't feel fully confident. Bitcointalk.org is meant to be operated "as a service to the community", so it's very important to me that bitcointalk.org not be seen to be putting profit above the interests of its users. (I've been kind of shocked at the crypto-related ads that are shown on TV, which are often way beyond anything I'd accept here. And I'd like to tighten our standards.) Secondly, there is a high amount of friction in the current process of auctions and manual ad processing. I often feel that it's more trouble than it's worth on bitcointalk.org's end. I also think that the revenue is substantially less than it could be because the market of advertisers willing to deal with this difficult process is much smaller than the market of advertisers who would be willing to advertise here if only they could do so effortlessly. So I think that we're "leaving a lot of money on the table" due to friction, which makes the other issues feel even worse. Finally, bitcointalk.org has a large reserve of BTC, so we're able to continue operating without ad revenue for many years. It's not even necessary to cut expenses or find replacement sources of revenue anytime soon, and I currently have no solid plans to do these things. I do regard it as less than ideal to be operating at a constant loss, especially because it constraints any desired future growth in expenses. Improving this situation will be on my mind in the coming years, but luckily it need not be a high priority.
If you'd like to advertise: I will consider offers to advertise, especially if you've advertised before. Send me: - What you want to advertise - How long you want to advertise for, and starting/ending when - How much you'll be willing to pay - If you would prefer some change in the format of ads (ie. something different than the banner below the first post), let me know and I'll consider it However, my standards for the type of service I will accept will be stricter than previously, and I will also not accept advertising if I don't think that the proposed price is high enough to make it worth the trouble. Due to these changes, I will probably accept few or no offers to advertise, and the majority of the time there will be no ads. A possible good long-term solution would be if we could use some ad network in the same vein as AdSense which has extremely high standards, does not track users, and is otherwise as visitor-friendly as possible. If you know of or operate something like this, please let me know. The main thing that I'll miss about these auctions is being pushed to closely investigate a wide variety of different crypto-services, many of which have been very interesting and innovative, even ones which I've had to reject. Thank you to all advertisers, auction participants, and ad designers over the nearly 11 years since the first auction. I'd especially like to point out that many, maybe the majority, of ad banners over the last few years were designed by jayce. |
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I probably never would've spent the ~hour figuring out how to add it because it strikes me as unnecessary, but I also don't see the harm in it. Since you wrote the code, I added it. Thanks!
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This month 127 users were eligible. Old: theymos
HostFat
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Foxpup
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ibminer
Mitchell
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yogg
dbshck
stompix
hilariousandco
Avirunes
buckrogers
Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
examplens
minerjones
sapta
BitcoinPenny
yahoo62278
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LFC_Bitcoin
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Jet Cash
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Ale88
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Vispilio
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DireWolfM14
1miau
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Dabs
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Lakai01
morvillz7z
Bthd
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Royse777 requested that the thread be disassociated from his account, and although there is/was controversy surrounding Royse777, I didn't see any harm in it because it'd be blatantly obvious who created the topic for anyone who did a couple minutes of looking.
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The rules require that bids be evenly divisible by 2mBTC. When someone violates this rule, I always round down to the next lower valid bid. 1 @ 22mBTC
As I mentioned in previous auctions, your bids will not be accepted. Auction ended, final result:
Slots mBTC/slot Person
1 28 BetCoco
2 28 Hhampuz
2 28 Myleschetty
4 26 Alpha Affiliates
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Real-Duke
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Lafu
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webtricks
duesoldi
Kryptowerk
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bobita
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Baofeng
be.open
imhoneer
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JollyGood
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Coin-1
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GazetaBitcoin
TheBeardedBaby
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DdmrDdmr
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Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
fillippone
abhiseshakana
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
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DireWolfM14
1miau
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The0ldl_lser
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Mitchell
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dbshck
stompix
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Avirunes
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Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
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minerjones
sapta
BitcoinPenny
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Real-Duke
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LoyceV
The Pharmacist
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Lafu
Coin_trader
polymerbit
Yatsan
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crwth
Ale88
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bobita
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Vispilio
be.open
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JollyGood
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DdmrDdmr
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morvillz7z
Husna QA
abhiseshakana
madnessteat
DireWolfM14
1miau
Harkorede
YOSHIE
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NotATether
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The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. This income is used primarily to cover hosting costs and to pay moderators for their work (there are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees). Any leftover amount is typically either saved for future expenses or otherwise reinvested into the forum or the ecosystem. There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Nine of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post. Hero/Legendary members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads; these people don't increase the impression stats for your ads. Design & ad restrictionsAd text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. No ICOs [1], loggable mixers [2], banks, funds, or anything that a person can be said to "invest" in; I may very rarely make exceptions if you convince me that you are ultra legit, but don't count on it. Ads may be rejected for other reasons, and I may remove ads even after they are accepted. See the ad design rules for info on designing forum ads. When advertising a new service, you should always check with me in advance whether your service is OK. I will sometimes accept bids of people who don't do this, but such people are taking the risk of being rejected at the last minute. It's also a good idea for you to have me check your ad's HTML+CSS in advance, especially if this is your first time advertising. Duration/timing - Ad slots won in this auction will run from noon August 30 (US Eastern time) to noon September 30. (31 days.) - This auction will end sometime between August 19 and August 25, but August 23 is most likely. - You must pay within 48 hours of the auction ending. Only Bitcoin is accepted. If you fail to pay in time, your ad slots may be resold, and in cases where I feel that you're acting in bad faith, I may even give you a negative trust rating. - You must send me a valid ad (ie. one not breaking any of the styling or other rules) before noon August 29. If you fail to send a valid ad in time, then the ad round will start without you, and you will be "burning time". You can still send an ad after the deadline, and usually this ad will be put up fairly quickly, but no particular timeline is guaranteed after the deadline. - If extended downtime or similar issues cause your ad not to be displayed for a long time, we generally give prorated refunds (USD-denominated) for the lost time, but this is not guaranteed. StatsExact historical impression counts per slot: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstatsInfo about the current ad slots: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfoAuction rulesNew members are likely to have their bids rejected unless they PM me first, telling me what they're going to advertise. New members might also be required to pay some amount in advance. Additionally, if you have never purchased forum ad space before, and it is not blatantly obvious what you're going to advertise, say what you're going to advertise in your first bid, or tell me in a PM. Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in mBTC per slot. (10 mBTC = 0.01 BTC.) You must state the maximum number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all nine slots are filled. So if someone bids for 9 slots @ 50 mBTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 9 slots. If the two highest bids are 9 slots @ 40 mBTC and 1 slot @ 50 mBTC, then the first person will get 8 slots and the second person will get 1 slot. The notation "2 @ 50" means 2 slots for 50 mBTC each. Not 2 slots for 50 mBTC total.- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however, like "5 @ 10 and 1 @ 50". - All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 2 mBTC. - The bidding starts at 2 mBTC. - The auction ends at an arbitrary time between August 19 and August 25. Times closer to 8:00AM August 23 (US Eastern time) are more likely. - If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first. If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done. I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made. Price flatteningAt the end of the auction, after the winning bids are all determined, I will do a "price flattening" operation. This has no effect on which bids actually win, but is instead just meant to make the prices actually paid by bidders more equal. For each bid, in order of lowest to greatest price/slot, I will reduce each bid's price/slot to the highest value which is equal to or only the minimum increment greater than the next-lower bid. This allows you to bid higher prices without worrying so much, but you still mustn't bid more than you're willing to pay. Example: This:
Slots mBTC/Slot Person
6 200 A
1 160 B
1 80 C
1 80 D
Becomes:
Slots mBTC/Slot Person
6 84 A [step 4: reduced to 82+2=84]
1 82 B [step 3: reduced to 80+2=82]
1 80 C [step 2: same as the next-lowest, unchanged]
1 80 D [step 1: the lowest bid is always unchanged] You must pay for your slots within 48 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else, and I might even give you a negative trust rating. I will send you the payment information via forum PM from this account ("theymos", user ID 35) after announcing the auction results in this thread. You might receive false payment information from scammers pretending to be me. They might even have somewhat similar usernames. Be careful.
[1]: For the purposes of forum ads, an ICO is any token, altcoin, or other altcoin-like thing which meets any of the following criteria: it is primarily run/backed by a company; it is substantially, fundamentally centralized in either operation or coin distribution; or it is not yet possible for two unprivileged users of the system to send coins directly to each other in a P2P way. The intention here is to allow community efforts to advertise things like Litecoin, but not to allow ICO funding, even when the ICO is disguised in various ways.[2]: A loggable mixer is a service marketed primarily for improving transaction privacy which accepts full custody of cryptocurrency for a time and has the technical ability to log where the cryptocurrency comes from and goes to (even if they promise not to log). |
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Auction ended, final result:
Slots mBTC/Slot Person
1 12 waveriderp
2 12 CrashinoAffiliates
3 12 Alpha Affiliates
3 10 BetCoco
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Bids from minimax.finance will not be accepted.
Current status:
Slots mBTC/Slot Person
1 12 waveriderp
2 12 CrashinoAffiliates
6 10 BetCoco
The auction continues.
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Bids from 8bethub will not be accepted. 3 @ 9 mBTC
Bids must be evenly divisible by 2 mBTC/slot. When this rule is broken, I always round down to the next valid bid. Current status: Slots mBTC/Slot Person
3 8 Alpha Affiliates
6 2 HhampuzThe auction continues. |
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