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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum 1.4Gh/s miner @1550w with less than 3 months ROI? on: November 28, 2016, 12:06:43 AM
Always keep the following in mind when it comes to most things in cryptoland, "A fool and his money are soon parted".
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU Rig PORN on: November 27, 2016, 12:35:39 AM

actually i am selling those... just PM me if you want


How much are you selling them for and are you in the US? I have been buying them from China but the shipping takes 4-5 weeks so I am looking for something a bit closer.
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASROCK BTC Rev2 obsolete .. any recommendation on updated board? on: November 26, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
Problem is i was able to get a hold of 40 boards but the proc is giving me an issue as intel has stop producing them.

The 1150 processors are available everywhere, where are you having a hard time finding them? On NewEgg the socket 1150 has the most selection available of any socket type, including the 1151. Intel is also still cranking out the higher end processors in the line. They may be looking to begin phasing out the lower end once Kaby Lake hits, but even once this happens there are plenty of chips in the supply pipeline to last a few more years easily.
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GENESIS-MINING Zcash is a fraud - look at the numbers!!! on: November 26, 2016, 01:20:25 AM
Yes, story is the same with every new popular coin launch, we read about people losing their shirt by investing in cloud mining. Sorry to hear it happened to you, but look at it as an investment in a good life lesson, i.e. stay away from cloud mining and other too good to be true schemes.

ZEC is pretty volatile right now, but there may be opportunity for profit yet as it is still a young coin. Forget about mining it, unless you have your own hardware and fairly cheap electricity, but look for good dips in the exchange rate and buy the coins directly. Right now it is on a tear again so I wouldn't invest today, but I expect it to experience several more peaks and valleys in the next few months. With a bit of good timing and patience you may be able to offset some of your cloud mining losses.
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Z170 Motherboard for mining with at least 4 gpus - any success stories? on: November 25, 2016, 06:49:33 AM
I have been able to get 5 GPUs to work on the ASRock H170 Pro4S boards. They are selling for $85 on NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157640


I also have the MSI Z170-A PRO board you asked about, and with that I have only been able to get 4 GPUs to work. I am disappointed a bit in that one for mining, but I might just use it for my gaming rig instead.
Which cards were you able to get working in the ASRock H170 Pro4S stable and hashing at a good rate?
Model specific and I guess you can't mix and match them. I mean putting in a 290 with 480's?

I use 5x of these SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX 470 100407NT+4GOCL 4GB in each rig with that motherboard. Currently I have three of those rigs up and running in that configuration with no issues. I do not mix or match GPUs in any of my rigs as I usually buy everything I need to build one in a single order.
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Z170 Motherboard for mining with at least 4 gpus - any success stories? on: November 24, 2016, 03:18:38 AM
I have been able to get 5 GPUs to work on the ASRock H170 Pro4S boards. They are selling for $85 on NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157640


I also have the MSI Z170-A PRO board you asked about, and with that I have only been able to get 4 GPUs to work. I am disappointed a bit in that one for mining, but I might just use it for my gaming rig instead.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v7.0 on: November 21, 2016, 11:37:11 PM
I'm new to all the mining things, but how can you trust someone, who uses closed code, meaning, that noone knows whether or not the moment you run it on your PC it does not start sending all your data to foreign sources. Starting with your location, ip, IP camera, etc, and in the same time is asking for a percentage of your earingings in order to cover the abovementioned?

Well you can never know for sure, but there is such as thing as packet capture programs you can use to monitor the traffic being sent in/out of your machine in detail. Wireshark is a good place to start if you are actually interested in learning. https://www.wireshark.org/#download
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Looking like the ZEC party is over on: November 20, 2016, 11:20:14 PM
Every altcoin pro knew this was going to happen, it's not like it's all over for miners, it'd still remain just fine to mine it as it's mining profitability would match the Ethereum in future as well.

Miners just got another option... and it'd not be useless any sooner.

Solid post.

Here are my stats. For last 3 days about .999 Zec  earned let's say it all sold at 0.082 btc

That would give me .082 btc which is close to 60 usd .

My power used was 2 kwatt  that is 144 for 3 days.  Power is .127 a kwatt but the heat warms the home

So make it 10 cents.

So my power used was 14.40 my coin earned was 60.

I made about 45 for the last 3 days.


Most people posting against Zec in this thread are attempting to trick people into. Not expanding mining.


If you understand the math here. Intel AMD and Nvidia can simply buy one or two million usd in Zec coins causing  price to go over .100 btc.

Would be a cheap easy commercial for them.

How many of us would expand their setups if Zec moves over .100 btc

All of us might do that.


I made most of my money mining Eth not when it was trading > $10.00, but back when I could mine several hundred of them in a day. By the time it was trading high the gold rushers were here and you could only mine a fraction of what was possible before. With ZEC it appears to be in reverse, so the opportunity is still ahead of us and not behind as is now with ETH.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v7.0 on: November 20, 2016, 09:10:32 PM
I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?

Think of the local hash-rate displayed by your miner in the same way as you would your optimistic MPG readout on your car. Say you have 1 gallon of gas left in your tank, your car's readout is showing you are getting 30 MPG and the nearest gas-station is only 25 miles away. According to the local readout your should be fine as you only need to go 25 miles not 30. However, the car's computer does not see the big hill you have to climb in order to get to the gas station, and that hill will temporarily drop your average down to 15 MPG, meaning you will only be able to drive 22 miles before running out of gas.

So if you turn your mind-set around a little and view the pool as the real hash-rate, and what your miner displays more like that car readout, you will be more likely to have better results as the pool takes into account real world factors such as stales, latency, bad (or good) luck, pool maintenance, etc.
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v6.0 on: November 18, 2016, 05:31:39 AM
Hi, Im having trouble with nanopool's guide for speed results.....
My miner reads 560h/s to 565h/s however on nanopool 6hrs reads 510h/s and 2hrs to 24hrs not much different. Im losing about 50+h/s. Fees would be 2.5% which is about 15h/s. Does anyone else have this problem with nanapool under cutting or is it just me....

Welcome to the wonderful world of mining! Yes, it is normal to see less hash on the pool that the local miner displays. There are other factors other than fees that play into this, such as stales, miner or GPU restarts, momentary disconnects due to your ISP or the pool itself, and also just plain old luck.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Server PSU for GPU power on: November 16, 2016, 09:47:36 PM
I use server PSU's for all my GPU builds - I just use breakout boards like this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667131.0

And then use a PicoPSU on the motherboard powered by 12v from the breakout - works like a champ, and may cost a bit more than doing everything yourself, but is much faster/flexible, and gives you about the cheapest 2000w platinum rated PSU around.  Plus just buy the cables from Sidehack and you've got a top-quality rig!


I have now done this too with my last build and plan to do more builds using a server PSU. Thanks MarkAz for pointing me in this direction earlier, and to Sidehack for selling the ready to go kit!

I will say the total cost is about 20% less that a consumer PSU, but here is what got me to switch over.
 
  • I was already running 240V and Server PSUs are pretty much designed for this anyway, even if they will run at 110V with reduced wattage output.
  • I am running these rigs in my garage so noise will not be an issue. Yes noise is a concern with server PSUs as the tiny fans need to run super fast to cool the unit.
  • The cabling and gauge of wire is superior for powering the risers and graphics cards. No more worrying about overloading Molex connectors as each GPU has its own dedicated run (up to 6 GPUs).
  • Probably the biggest reason is if the PSU itself dies, I can replace it for $30 as the breakout board and cabling will most likely be in usable condition.

Yes I do realize consumer PSUs come with up to a 10 year warranty, but I liked the idea of having some cheap ready spares on-hand and not worrying about shipping and the whole RMA process. Also as someone else mentioned, server PSUs were designed for 24/7 use and have high efficiency already due to their intended purpose.
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help needed on mining and understanding (Im New!) on: November 16, 2016, 02:51:53 AM
I would stick with Zcash for now. The last few days it has flip-flopped back and forth with Ethereum as which is most profitable at any given moment to mine, but Zcash usually comes back on top within a few hours. Sell regularly, but be watchful of the peaks and valleys on the exchanges. We will hit the maximum block reward in about 2 more weeks, after which the picture should become a little more clearer.
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best way to convert minings to USD? on: November 16, 2016, 02:46:14 AM
For the beginner, you can use NiceHash. You basically supply a BTC address, which to save a further step you can use your Coinbase BTC wallet address. Then you point your miners to their website.

You can mine with the Ethash (Ethereum) or or Equihash (Zcash) algorithms which are currently the most profitable, but they will pay out directly in BTC to your Coinbase wallet, which you can then sell for USD. While they may not be the best way to squeeze out the absolute most profit, it is pretty streamlined and saves a few steps along the way.

Once you are more advanced you can mine alts directly and try to sell them on an exchange for a bit more profit if you can time it right.
814  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: November 14, 2016, 09:49:44 PM
I didn't read this whole thing, but this is obviously a troll post. Does anyone use dollar bills for illegal activities? Is the Sky blue? Does the sun set in the west? Are you a troll?
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did you guys get instant ROI during the Paycoin scandal of 2014? on: November 11, 2016, 07:57:05 PM
Reading people moaning about how they missed out on selling at 50 BTC/ZEC reminds me a lot about people who also whine about not holding on to this or that collectable; baseball cards, beanie babies, etc. The problem is if *everyone* held on to these they would not be so valuable. Same thing with ZEC. If everything was working perfect and pools were paying out, the price would have plunged even faster and you would have still only been able to sell at 10 btc/zec, 5/btc/zec, or whatever you ended up with.

You might as well bemoan the fact that you didn't pick those exact wining lottery numbers after the drawing has already taken place. And if this explanation doesn't satisfy you take comfort in the fact most of those crazy high early trades were fake with speculators trying to establish an early high price and buying into their own sells. Sorry Sunshine, no one actually bought at 3,600 BTC/ZEC and gave someone else an instant ROI mining farm.
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v4.0 on: November 11, 2016, 07:45:49 PM
yeah second that.  use 4.0 with -i 0

Actually, just that.... Even with my RX480s and a 4.4GHz 4790k i7 pumping them, -i 0 is faster than 1 and 2. Your results of course may vary, but with these things you have to trial and error.

Same here - 4 rigs with 6 RX480's - all with Celeron procs - run very nice with -i 0

I also have found very little actual difference between -0, 1, or 2 as far as shares reported to the pool. I had a couple of rigs start off on 2 and crash after a few minutes. I lowered them down to 0 and noticed the shares/hash did not really seem to change that much. It is much more stable though on 0 and the CPU usage drops a bit, although I didn't really notice a huge difference there either.
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v2.1 on: November 08, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
I'm curious, what are the unmodified values for GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR, GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE, GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS, GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT, GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT or is there a way to reset them to values before setx command? I ask this because I'm currently mining with my daily pc that i play games etc. Would any of these commands affect gaming etc. negatively?

I guess they are documented in the AMD SDK and by default they are not defined. Unless you know defaults may be better to remove those variables from the global environment (see advanced system properties, I believe, they can be found and deleted there if were set at least once).

I can't say about affecting games, but for few known to me systems setting GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR=0 resulted in Calymore's ETH dual miner crash with RX470 cards. So I used all them but removed after that. On some other systems setting this showed me 3GB of VRAM for 380X and RX470 card instead of real 4GB.

So in short, yes, I would remove all of them and use in the form of set (not setx) only those that really affect mining performance (by testing on a particular system).


Setting GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR=0 allows access to 32-bit address space of memory ~3.8 GB, while GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR=1 allows access to 64-bit of address space. So yes in order to utilize all of your GPU memory your should leave this set to one.

I think the main benefit to setting this to 0 for mining was that it cuts the required number of clock cycles needed to access the memory in half, thus improving (in theory) mining speed. Since most algorithms will fit within 3.8 GB of memory, for dedicated mining rigs it is set to 0. For gaming rigs or dual purpose (mining/gaming) with more than 4 GB of GPU memory, leave it on 1. I think the performance gains are minimal if noticeable at all.
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Your Zcash mining cost? on: November 08, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
I think my mining is complete free
rigs are paid back themselves years ago and every W they generate will be part of winter heating Cheesy

Yes, with Winter coming the effective rate for power is even cheaper if you can use mining heat to offset your normal heating bill. Unfortunately, I usually have a surplus of heat, even in the Winter, so electricity is still a "cost" for me. I need to figure out a way to harness all this heat for other useful purposes, like heating my water.
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Your Zcash mining cost? on: November 08, 2016, 07:44:27 PM
I think that it is better to go to move from that type of eeaning site online mining because mining isnt profitable anymore and it will not be soon i think.

If you pay $0.2/kWh for your electricity, the ZCash mining is no long profitable. The Ethereum mining will also not profitable soon.

Depends on the card.
For a 280X which does 150W mining ZCASH the calculation is
$0.2/kWh x 0.15kW x 24h per day = $0.72 per day
ZCash earns you $1.73 with that card as we speak (hashrate = 47 Sol/s - https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec)

The speed is 47 sol or 23 H/s. So if you put that value, the profit is just $0.22.


https://www.whattomine.com/coins/166-zec-equihash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=23.0&br=3.4415&d=162474.405&p=150.0&fee=3.0&er=0.27032637&cost=0.2&hcost=0.0&btc=700.601&commit=Calculate

You would put 47 in as sols correlates to hashes with other algorithms. This has been explained all over many times, so while technically one iteration produces around 2 sols (1.88 on average) all calculations are based upon sols. The confusions stems from people wanting to equate iterations, rounds, or whatever you want to call them with hashes. WhatToMine simply uses the term hashes since all the rest of the coins are based off of that metric.

When using WhatToMine to base your calculations on, this is further confused by the overly optimistic predictions it offers, so the real profit prediction I found is closer to 75% of what the site displays. So since this number falls in-between your "halving" methodology and simply inputting sols, I can see where you might have been lead to believe this was correct.
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Your Zcash mining cost? on: November 08, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
On one of my better rigs, I get around 300 sols or 50 per RX470 x 6. The entire rig (GPUs, mobo, CPU, etc) draws 580 watts from the wall when plugged in a 120V outlet and measured with a kill-a-watt meter. I normally run it at 240V and expect it gets slightly better efficiency there but do not have a precise meter for that measurement.

Anyway, using the 580 watt 120V reading, I am using 13.92 KWh each day and at $0.08 power it is costing me about about $1.11 a day. So my mining "cost" is about 300 sols for $1.11/day. According to the WhatToMine site I should earn about 0.06 ZEC/day with this rig and should clear close to $11.00 in profit after electricity costs are subtracted.

So even accounting for pool fees, miner fees, inefficiencies, lost shares, etc and only assuming I am getting about 75% of whattomine's figures show, I am still making close to $8.00/day profit after costs. For the record, the later figure is what pretty much matches up with my pool figures.

Most of my rigs were already bought and paid for by ETH mining (some even from the LTC/Doge days), so this is pretty much all profit for me. So if you are losing money even with today's depressed prices, you need to research more and tweak you cards more. You can under-volt like crazy with ZEC for some reason.
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