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November 24, 2018, 09:04:52 AM


I'm not disagreeing with the guy. Just kept waiting for the metagame portion that you mentioned.

I believe the ideal is that Bitcoin itself is a virus to the king. Slowly consuming until the king (banks) is dead.

Strangely enough, this was discussed in some of our seasteading discussions. We don't want to piss off the puppet masters who actually control things (especially early on). So we may have to put a Citibank on one of the first seasteads as an offering to the gods.

Nooooo! Don’t let the evil overlords get a foothold, you will never get them out.
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November 24, 2018, 09:13:38 AM

Buttcoin is coming to an end.


I expected a little bull run this beginning of weekend... I still believe it will go lower before restabilizing at 6k or whatever.
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November 24, 2018, 09:16:58 AM

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Thought the same but never no Maybe VERY Maybe @ the Total begin .... but think not also not gonna argue that cause i’m not 100%sure


Well sometimes any of us posting here could talk about percentages or amount or strategies, and the only thing i recall you disclosing related to strategies... such as hodl and buydl of BTC.. and maybe amounts related to games, but not amounts that you were buying or even how long that you have been buying.. even though that could be easy to miss some posts that might have gone over that.

Regarding myself, I have provided a bit more regarding percentages of BTC bought but usually not amounts, except every once in a while I might describe amounts as examples or maybe amounts of some transactions that I have done, for example in the context of debunking claims about slow transaction times and/or high transaction fees.
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November 24, 2018, 09:22:15 AM


Umm...the guy said a whole lot of nothing with a lot of words.

Yes, lots of words is what he uses.

But there is an interesting thought on what he calls the ‘Metagame’. In other posts, he describes the behaviour of a coyote encountering a group of humans. The coyote stares down the humans with an expression like ‘I do not care for you humans; I’m not afraid of you’. And puts his nose in the air, turns around and goes away.

The coyote wins this game.

But the humans get together and discuss what they saw. A threatening predator that shows no fear for humans and willing to confront them instead of running away scared at the first sight of humans. The humans vow to hunt this animal so that it’s numbers are decimated.

The humans win. The humans win the Metagame. The coyote is not able to understand that by winning the individual with his behaviour, it is losing the Metagame.

I guess that is what he tries to ask: how is the cryptocurrency community intending to deal with the humans called ‘king’ when taking away their claim on society’s money? How will it save itself from the wrath of the King?

You’ll have to read it all between the lines but I sense that the author understands the tremendous power of of the idea of cryptocurrency. But somehow considers it a lost cause if it’s community does not come to terms with the King on how to blend in and give the King the King’s due.

Personally, I think the King may have less teeth than envisaged. On the other hand, it does is a force to recon with.

This guy does a lot of deep thinking (with a lot of words to express it  Cheesy ). It stems me positive to see some signs that he may be moving ahead in his thinking about cryptocurrency. We won’t make it just with this WO community (sorry guys).

I'm not disagreeing with the guy. Just kept waiting for the metagame portion that you mentioned.

I believe the ideal is that Bitcoin itself is a virus to the king. Slowly consuming until the king (banks) is dead.

Strangely enough, this was discussed in some of our seasteading discussions. We don't want to piss off the puppet masters who actually control things (especially early on). So we may have to put a Citibank on one of the first seasteads as an offering to the gods.

You also need government protection if you were to establish any seastead, which ultimately makes a seastead largely unfeasible because you are going to be in nearly constant negotiations for your own sovereignty and protection(s) in order to maintain your anti-government posture, you have to suck their dicks.. probably figuratively. 
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November 24, 2018, 09:24:02 AM
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I want to thank all these new guys who came here and registered a new account just to warn us about the end of bitcoin.

you are true heroes of the internet who use their scarce spare time to rescue us naive hat owners.
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November 24, 2018, 09:34:41 AM

I want to thank all these new guys who came here and registered a new account just to warn us about the end of bitcoin.

you are true heroes of the internet who use their scarce spare time to rescue us naive hat owners.
I agree.

In the meantime the global economy is far more closer to a collapse, investing in regular stock market or many other assets is like playing poker...

We are talking about huge amount of money and people are really concerned about the Bitcoin bubble as if it was the main problem nowadays haha. Common sense is a far cry.
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November 24, 2018, 09:38:01 AM

http://www.flabber.nl/artikel/flabbertv-doet-een-coinmercieel-buitenbeeldje-op-de-beleggersfair-2018-55736

did i saw some of the HOLLAND WO's in here .... made me laugh the old and young peeps on BTC
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November 24, 2018, 09:38:01 AM

It is clear that the ‘risk-on’ Money is leaving the market for now (also stocks etc) but no great topping process goes without violent ups and downs. Expect risk to switch ‘on’ a few times before the financial markets definitely go bear market.
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November 24, 2018, 09:56:40 AM

^
Thought the same but never no Maybe VERY Maybe @ the Total begin .... but think not also not gonna argue that cause i’m not 100%sure


Well sometimes any of us posting here could talk about percentages or amount or strategies, and the only thing i recall you disclosing related to strategies... such as hodl and buydl of BTC.. and maybe amounts related to games, but not amounts that you were buying or even how long that you have been buying.. even though that could be easy to miss some posts that might have gone over that.

Regarding myself, I have provided a bit more regarding percentages of BTC bought but usually not amounts, except every once in a while I might describe amounts as examples or maybe amounts of some transactions that I have done, for example in the context of debunking claims about slow transaction times and/or high transaction fees.

I've let Mic know what I remember and I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong. 
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^
Thought the same but never no Maybe VERY Maybe @ the Total begin .... but think not also not gonna argue that cause i’m not 100%sure


Well sometimes any of us posting here could talk about percentages or amount or strategies, and the only thing i recall you disclosing related to strategies... such as hodl and buydl of BTC.. and maybe amounts related to games, but not amounts that you were buying or even how long that you have been buying.. even though that could be easy to miss some posts that might have gone over that.

Regarding myself, I have provided a bit more regarding percentages of BTC bought but usually not amounts, except every once in a while I might describe amounts as examples or maybe amounts of some transactions that I have done, for example in the context of debunking claims about slow transaction times and/or high transaction fees.

my starting strategie is that i was very lucky how i got into BTC, cause i played poker with a guy @ the table and when he lost he needed to sell BTC to pay his losses (he's in belgium i guess the nr1 most online winner in poker will probably belong in the top of the world but is very anonymous and has always been, also i just think he is on everything i have seen and cause of BTC price rises...... i cannot give his online playnames offcourse= MY PERSONAL THINKING NOT PROVEN TO BE TRUE).
But from the moment when we got in touch and we played high stakes ... it wasn't comfortable for him cause when he lost always needed to change BTC for fiat to pay in the game to the winner, now after few games he said i wanna play much higher stakes but to do thathe asked me if he could pay in BTC and told me all how it worked and as the host (and didn't want that kind of selling and banksendings) @ that time i said its good and he made me an exchange account and helped me out with everything since, now the first time when we back played was a special day cause right there i was the big winner and didn't have to pay anyone out so didn't need to change out those BTC's and decided to just let it stand, 370$-ish fiat value time of BTC right there and it only did rise.... story after few times more of playing was that we challenged each other and played with a group of 3-4 max and played reasonable high stakes online poker to each other and nobody else, and lucky as i am i almost didn't lose a session since .....

now thats been my most accumulating strategie on gaining BTC while this was going on for a few years by now i also bought BTC with fiat on occasionaly DIP's or when somebody wanted to sell some for cash etc
also my friend adviced me to buy few alts @ previous times and when to get out so there i also did accumulate some (offcourse now on a few alt's i'm rekt as well but over the line gained a bit more then the losses on the alt's that i remain to have....)
but its difficult to say my cases in percentages....., one thing we have in our group and thats the first time when we played on laptop +- 3 tables of PLO, by then the whole game was in BTC so like SB= 0.05 BB=0.1BTC  and i think BTC value there was little over 1K ..... that was my most memorable day of poker in my personal history, i crushed the two other players like i didn't lose a single hand on those 3 tables for a whole evening/early night of playing , when i send my mails with BTCaddresses i wrote session of DOOM with it, as today the 2 other players of that evening reminds me of how lucky i was there .
lately we played short deck holdem and again it get outrages some times but again i was lucky last time and gained around 40% of what i won with that session of DOOM= in BTC value, so in fiat value even more, but please give me that DOOM session instead, also that was one night last wins was from over 1month and a week or so .....

so JJG its to understand i cannot see how i work in %'s for my case ?
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November 24, 2018, 10:21:45 AM

We welcome our new goose overlord.
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November 24, 2018, 10:32:16 AM
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We welcome our new goose overlord.

just exhausting every single action must be in detail for JJG and i know its not something for in here, its not about winning or losing BTC on poker in here but thats been my game in earning accumulating BTC........
but if your not a player then there's not much to discuss about that and for the rest buy few alt's - buy occasionally DIP's, but i didn't made much of action with going long or short like you pro's
last time we almost did.... but not yet LUCKY after all Smiley
but with those things i just follow my friend and don't make my own decissions, HODL is already good enough for me to manage, making some moves actions on the market i going to let been done by a friend/trader with a FEW to risk BTC's and don't get attached on it .... i think its not bad and he has proven some ability's to make decissions that are very reasonable and is never emotionally attached to his actions and always does what he feels that needs to be done....
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November 24, 2018, 10:41:37 AM

JJG is a nosey wanker, pretending he's talking about accumulation strategies, all the while estimating people's coin hodl for his little list.
It's not cricket.
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Dropped 75% this could be an indicator. Let us know when the price goes to 2$!
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Dropped 75% this could be an indicator. Let us know when the price goes to 2 euros!

F*** no they probably won't sell them for a year after december .........
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mmm BULLmachinery everywhere
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November 24, 2018, 11:13:26 AM

Speaking of trilema, what ever happened to Mircea Popescu?
He soldiers on.
MPOE-PR has a baby duck. And tits.
More insights anon.
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November 24, 2018, 11:14:50 AM

haha

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November 24, 2018, 11:43:38 AM

JJG is a nosey wanker, pretending he's talking about accumulation strategies, all the while estimating people's coin hodl for his little list.
It's not cricket.

He’s building a quantum computer to end us all! He has parts of our private keys, one day we’ll check our balances & they’ll all be 0BTC

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November 24, 2018, 11:45:18 AM

You also need government protection if you were to establish any seastead, which ultimately makes a seastead largely unfeasible because you are going to be in nearly constant negotiations for your own sovereignty and protection(s) in order to maintain your anti-government posture, you have to suck their dicks.. probably figuratively. 

The only thing we would need government protection from is the government.
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