600.
Fuck me dead.
Thats ummm 120 USD rise in about 3 minutes.
let it settle first. Looking at Blockchain.info the next few blocks add up to nearly 100K in Bitcoin. So, this ain't over. Those also include newly bought coins and change. So it's hard to say |
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STOPPPPP!
There is tons of money waiting to buy at these prices, but WE CANNOT GET IT TO THE EXCHANGES.
All this panic does is lead to a longer recovery.
I am boarding a plane for China tomorrow (later today).
What's the trip for? Buying OTC? |
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BTC没有中国人的参与，什么都不是
幼稚   这是神马情况?  某些人總喜歡說, "沒有中國, XXX就要完蛋" |
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BTC没有中国人的参与，什么都不是
幼稚 |
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If you cant deposit through banks, basically most speculators would retreat. This is not about 3rd party payments company, this is about banks. We may expect a bigger sell off later. And it means the gov is more serious than we think, this may kill the exchanges in china in the long run. It's just a hint for you guys to be prepared. If you made a profit by this message, then it's not in vain. This is the other warning thread I made before the last sell off: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=373212.0Tipping Address: 188vSXijbqQGzBRXNzJzvF1U9bgBPRPpiN I'm relaxed but I also don't have many btcs. However, I should point out that yeepay is still working. Also, if this continues Btc china will be forced to set up shop in HK and Macau. Therefore, goodbye shanghai "free economic zone". China will go back to the Stoneage in terms of financial reforms. And the RMB will never be an international currency due to banking restrictions. No, yeepay channel has closed. Check it yourself |
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So according to their website, as of the 17th they now have 98.000+ coins. That's got to be a typo right?
They say they have net assets of $68.4 million right now. If they meant $48.4 million instead they only bought about 1000 coins, and that number seem far more reasonable than 30.000 coins+ in 24h.
Where do you find the 98000+ figure? I assume he is just doing the math of $68.4MM / $69.66 = 98,000BTC Does anyone have the private placement offering literature so we can learn how the NAV and Net Assets are calculated? It is now shown as 47.9 M$. I think that was a typo I still see $68.4M, even on a fresh computer's browser. I think you are looking at: http://www.bitcointrust.co/I am looking at this one: https://www.secondmarket.com/company/bitcoin-investment-trustI believe the latter one is accurate |
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So according to their website, as of the 17th they now have 98.000+ coins. That's got to be a typo right?
They say they have net assets of $68.4 million right now. If they meant $48.4 million instead they only bought about 1000 coins, and that number seem far more reasonable than 30.000 coins+ in 24h.
Where do you find the 98000+ figure? I assume he is just doing the math of $68.4MM / $69.66 = 98,000BTC Does anyone have the private placement offering literature so we can learn how the NAV and Net Assets are calculated? It is now shown as 47.9 M$. I think that was a typo |
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So according to their website, as of the 17th they now have 98.000+ coins. That's got to be a typo right?
They say they have net assets of $68.4 million right now. If they meant $48.4 million instead they only bought about 1000 coins, and that number seem far more reasonable than 30.000 coins+ in 24h.
Where do you find the 98000+ figure? |
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about 310XBT bought with 220k$
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Sell the rumor, buy the news. It's time to buy |
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This. And the real market cap is far lower than 8 billion due to lost coins and Satoshi's coins.
Also, it is now very clear that Chinese people can legally own bitcoin. OTC trade is also legal. So China is not completely out
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How is it possible that there is a negative number for Bitcoins bought on the first page? I thought selling wouldn't be possible before ~March.
Since they do not publish enough decimal places, there could be rounding error of hundreds of coins. |
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Largest XBT acquisition since the top.
There could be some rounding error and overestimate of 300XBT. But still, it's not bad |
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I think this is a bad idea Insane fees might actually create a problem for consensus: when fee exceeds X/p where X is an average block payoff and p is a probability that a miner will mine the next block (aka the percentage of hash rate), it makes sense to mine a block which includes a transaction with this obscene fee instead of mining a block on top of the longest chain. Hypothetically, a software bug which sends a huge sum to a fee could destabilize the whole network if miners were game-theoretically rational. For example, suppose somebody who has has 100,000 BTC in one wallet uses custom software to make a transaction (he absolutely needs to do it on a highly secure, air-gapped system; standard software doesn't cut), and fucks up signing a transaction with a 100,000 BTC fee. This kills the Bitcoin. Why? I don't know about you, but if I was a mining pool operator, I'd rush to keyboard and try to patch bitcoind to make it mine that transaction no matter what. Perhaps the opportunity cost is on scale of 50 BTC, but it doesn't matter when 100,000 BTC is on table (and sometimes pools have bad luck/orphans/outages, it isn't unheard of). Now suppose there is an IsStandard rules against insane fees, it will prevent propagation, and perhaps a rich guy who has 100,000 BTC would double-check it. Catastrophe averted. Good idea, jl2012! This could be fixed but need a hardfork. Miner should be able to send part of its earning to the next miner by making an anyone-can-redeem output. This is not possible now because of the 100-block requirement |
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without deposits coming in and withdraws still going out, BTCChina will become the opposite of gox and always be 2-5% lower?
or btcchina crashes to zero?
this gana be weird.....
they should just halt trading and give everyone their monies back, but they wont do that, so this is gana be weird....
It won't crash to zero. For example, the exchange operator could buy up all the cheap coins, and sell at a higher price overseas. And also, theoretically, people could deposit with cash. |
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I think we should make any transaction with >0.1 XBT fee as non-standard. (0.0001 XBT/kB * 1000kB = 0.1 XBT). Do you mean a limit in absolute terms, or in per-kB terms? I think an absolute limit is enough. 0.1XBT is about 80USD right now. It's not small but even bitcoin users in developing countries should earn this amount in less than a month so it doesn't do real harm. |
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"Just" as in >1500 blocks ago (IOW over a week ago)? Current Bitcoin-qt codebase will not aid someone in footgunning like this, but there isn't anything we can do about irresponsible services like brainwallet (which create extreme risk of loss in several ways, not just this one). Please don't start another thread about this. I think bitcoind will still relay transactions with insane fee? If most nodes do not relay such transactions they are less likely to reach a miner. (On miners' standpoint I think they will still mine it if they see one) We could never stop people from creating/using irresponsible/buggy services. However, the bitcoind, as the backbone of the network, should filter such insane behavior. After all, it is about the reputation of the whole bitcoin network. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=372725.0Someone just accidentally paid 20BTC as fee. I think we should make any transaction with >0.1 XBT fee as non-standard. (0.0001 XBT/kB * 1000kB = 0.1 XBT). OT: This could be avoided if the blockchain.info API blocked the transaction.
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btc本身的签名机制不用,而去搞密码什么的验证,简直是太搓了.
交易网站,应该使用btc的签名机制,账号用btc地址,无需密码,全部使用签名机制来保证安全性.
转入btc后,生成对应转入地址的账户,此后如果客户因平台安全问题损失,交易网站不能提供合法(带签名)的操作记录,理应由平台全额赔款.
开发一个生成交易指令的客户端是很简单的事情,然后对消息签名,提交给交易网站,验证签名后处理提交的指令,保存记录,这样除了握有钱包地址对应私匙的人,其他人是不可能有提款权的.用户也就不会有平台账号风险.
搞什么手机验证,google验证简直是多此一举,安全是要掌握在自己手里才能叫真的安全,依靠第三方就是推卸责任,
不顾用户利益,简直就是扯皮的利器.
本人程序员,从业8年,页游后台开发经验4年,现就职于上海,计划2014年离职,如果有人愿意做一个这样的平台,本人愿意加入.
這東西早就有了, 用的是GPG: http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html |
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真人真事，我的朋友凌晨12点06分左右，存放在okcoin的十多个比特币和数百个LTC都被盗啦。
朋友账号使用了谷歌认证，更恐怖的事，okcoin竟然私下存了谷歌认证的私钥。
我现在严重怀疑okcoin的数据库被攻破了。
朋友在okcoin发帖，不少人响应，都是12点左右被盗的，现在已经被删帖。
联系客服，客服竟然说是被钓鱼盗号，不关事！！！！请问，钓鱼如何钓谷歌认证？！
不知道还有没有凌晨在okcoin被盗的兄弟，一起出来说说情况。
我昨天也被盗了，因为自己不小心，往一个地址里充了两次币，然后第二次没到账，我就去论坛反映了一下，以前知道论坛没处理一笔信息都会把这个人的发言删除或者变成统一的信息，自己没留意，就联系了ok小王留的那个所谓的OKcoin财务经理的QQ，让他帮我处理下，然后就是自己最傻逼的时刻了，被他远程操纵着改成了他来验证账号。这边改完，那边我立马觉出来不对了，一看账号，果然莱特币被全部转走了，于是我立马发帖请求锁定交易和账号，这就要得益于ok处理提现比较慢这个优点了，大概二十分钟后，版主说已经锁定账号和交易；再过5分钟，ok打来电话，亲自确认我被盗的事情，取消了被更改的谷歌验证，要我自己立马更改所有的登录密码和交易密码，自己重新添加验证。全部更改以后，客服又打来电话，确认是我自己操作的，然后，币给退了回来。 首先，自己纯纯纯纯纯纯纯纯纯傻逼，竟然会被骗； 其次，感谢okcoin平台，处理还是很及时的，自己没有任何损失。 再次，感谢帮我处理问题的几个客服，快半夜两点还在处理。 最后，提一点改进意见： 1、ip认证，如果同一时间两处登陆，立马锁定交易，继续交易需要邮箱或者短信验证，验证的界面附加一封防诈骗信，btc-e的登陆ip全部都有邮件。 2、设立一个反诈骗的专线，平台这么大，如果普通事务处理不过来，被诈骗的专线还是应该有的，及时锁定交易，损失是可以避免的。 3、及时处理论坛上的诈骗信息，ok自己的论坛，自己有权限删除的诈骗信息，还请立马处理。 最后，不管别人怎么说，ok帮我挽回了损失，还是很感谢的。愿平台越来越规范，发展能更长久。 楼上被招安啦？一个新号，小号么 他們會刪投訴帖, 但OK小王的帖到這一刻還存在, 那只有一個可能性: 這是故意的 |
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