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1701  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 预测底部位置与时间 on: December 30, 2013, 09:07:09 AM
我2000跟你收10个你抄底吧 我2000就可以

我給2001  Grin
1702  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 一个理由打倒比特币泡沫,请李笑来答辩! on: December 30, 2013, 03:31:18 AM
这是一个由于自己错误的判断导致提早下车然后看着车子越开越远心有不甘唯恐错过一生中唯一的一次暴富机会想要重来一次但却无能为力的屌丝发出的临死前的哀嚎!! Grin

這不只是一生一次的機會, 這是幾代人才有一次的機會
1703  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Unconfirmed Transaction to Confirmation on: December 29, 2013, 03:18:30 PM
....... or the unconfrmed transactions will always be confirmed at some point of time ?

The answer is quite obvious: if this was true, no one would ever need to wait for confirmation
1704  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 29, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
The maths is simple. If one believes the expected value of the price in January is lower than 98.5% of the current price, the rational choice is not to invest now.
1705  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 29, 2013, 10:15:31 AM
Around 50XBT bought per day in the last few days
1706  Economy / Speculation / Re: China is out, is Crypto sunk? on: December 24, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
Just a silk road repeat, and the panicked overselling is probably going to lead to an accelerated rise later.

No not the same.  china is 2nd largest gdp in the world.

So what? China earns only 4USD for manufacturing 1 iPhone. They could be easily replaced by other southern / southeast Asia countries

You said "only" and then they could easily be replaced... does not compute.

Also this is way different than silk road.  Silk road put bitcoin in the headlines.  This is actual prohibition to a large part of the in flow of money.

They can only earn 4USD out of an iPhone because they are doing something with really low value. These could be done in other emerging countries, and even cheaper. It's already happening
1707  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有创新才有价值-淘京币采用bcrypt算法 on: December 23, 2013, 04:34:10 PM

TaoJingCoin(中文译名:淘京币)

明明就是 淘京币(英文译名:TaoJingCoin), 裝什麼外國貨  Roll Eyes Grin
1708  Economy / Speculation / Re: China is out, is Crypto sunk? on: December 23, 2013, 04:31:40 PM
Just a silk road repeat, and the panicked overselling is probably going to lead to an accelerated rise later.

No not the same.  china is 2nd largest gdp in the world.

So what? China earns only 4USD for manufacturing 1 iPhone. They could be easily replaced by other southern / southeast Asia countries
1709  Economy / Speculation / Re: China still huge - 3 biggest exchanges in volume last 24 hours are Chinese on: December 23, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
http://btckan.com/price shows that current ranking of Bitcoin exchanges by volume is:

1. huobi.com
2. chbtc.com
3. fxbtc.com
4. btc-e.com
5. Stamp
6. Gox
7. Btctrade.com
8. btcchina.com

So, top 3 is Chinese, and 5 of 8 are Chinese. From what I understand, they are bypassing the deposit problem by using non-corporate account to receive funds.

I hadn't even heard of any of the Chinese exchanges apart from BTCChina. Is this news to more people than me?

Don't pay too much attention to volume in Chinese markets. They have many tricks to boost the volume. huobi.com and chbtc.com charges no fee. okcoin.com simply fakes volume: http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/
1710  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 國人應轉到BTC-E交易 on: December 23, 2013, 04:12:59 AM

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wzh369:请baiwei解释一下,为什么lakebtc只让充值,既不让交易,也不让提现,充值后,还让继续充值????????

我怎么知道!为什么我可以你不可以,这种问题也来问我,真当我是拖! Angry



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jl2012:我說caixin是托, 你用錯馬甲了

你引用我的话却说是在讲别人?就像是我指着你的鼻子对你破口大骂的却是另一个人,你会爽吗?

我引的很明顯是caixin, 都說你用錯馬甲  Grin Grin Grin
1711  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 國人應轉到BTC-E交易 on: December 22, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
有骗人去 lakebtc ,鄙视

lakebtc,可以就自由提现转账了认证银行信息后,但是要收手续费的银行 0.2%~~0.5%。



lakebtc就这几天才听说,也不知什么背景,反正我是不敢用。


你要是做国债、外汇等专业期货交易的话没理由不听说过,人家在美国金融交易领域也小有名气,可能是是在中国没有什么业务活动所以无人知晓罢


BTC-E是各大平台中, 唯一可以提現為USD code的. 以後大家只需要在BTC-E交易, 然後在場外通過支付寶交易USD code, 那就根本不用理會什麼央行規定了.


另外,有谁在 btc-e 、mtgox 上提现成功的,请分享一下经验。(我的经验是无法提现)


lakebtc.com 登記人qwjian明顯是漢語拼音, 登記還不足一個月, 連email都是用gmail (https://www.lakebtc.com/s/help),  竟然"在美国金融交易领域也小有名气"? 吹牛也有個限度, 看一下你的歷史, 大概是個托吧?  Roll Eyes





 Angry  

域名注册用Gmail不是很正常么? Angry  最好别来,省得又被想你这样的人给玩坏了,搞的大家都没地方玩!

还有,本人亲历证实MtGox(不能提现)、Btc-e(充值不到帐客服无回应)、bitstamp(验证都不没通过)各种不靠谱,我推荐一个平台就说我是拖?你们谁来着?整天在这里说这个平台那个网站的,你们全是拖!! Angry




最后一次,爱看不看:

LakeBTC 是由几名华尔街投资银行交易员创办。一年多前主要是纽约周边金融专业人士参与交易。这些交易员在日常数十亿百亿美元的国债、机构债、外汇、结构化产品等衍生产品交易之余,在LakeBTC买卖比特币。

由于发现国内外其他交易所创始人大多是IT背景,对金融市场和交易所的理解并不深入,甚至欠缺金融常识。由此LakeBTC 希望进入国内市场,普及金融交易常识、带头杜绝现在国内经常出现各种问题,比如,跑路,疑操纵价格和成交量、发布虚假充值消息、不能提现等等。

我說caixin是托, 你用錯馬甲了 Grin Grin Grin
1712  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC China Endgame?? on: December 21, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
A slow and complete exodus as both CNY and BTC flee the exchange. Although the price will probably continue to stay lower, it is unlikely to go too much lower than western exchanges because BTC could be sold by other means, so the Chinese won't just sell them for next to nothing.

The endgame is 0 CNY, 0 BTC and no trades.

Agreed, volume is already drying up on BTC China and OkCoin.

True, however, if the Chinese prohibit CNY withdrawals (which I think will happen next), It will be very difficult for average users to sell their existing Bitcoins and cash out.

They could sell bitcoin at BTC-E, cash out as USD code, and sell the code for CNY. I predict this as the future of bitcoin trading in China

Interesting.  What do you mean sell out as USD code and then sell USD code for CNY?  Also, how would you then get the CNY back to China? I would think this would be a huge hassle and incur a lot of fees.  What would this do to the price of Bitcoin on Chinese exchanges?

You bring up an interesting point about future Bitcoin trading in China.  I really think it will effectively be pushed underground.

On BTC-E, one can withdraw his USD (or EUR and RUR) balance as a redeem code (with 0 fee). Whoever gets this redeem code can collect the USD. Therefore, a Chinese user who wants to sell their bitcoin could sell on BTC-E, and withdraw as USD redeem code, and sell the code to someone else within China for CNY through payment processor Alipay (zero fee or very very low fee). The whole thing is zero fee (except the 0.2% BTC-E transaction fee). It is better than direct OTC XBT/CNY exchange because the USD/CNY rate is much more stable.
1713  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC China Endgame?? on: December 21, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
A slow and complete exodus as both CNY and BTC flee the exchange. Although the price will probably continue to stay lower, it is unlikely to go too much lower than western exchanges because BTC could be sold by other means, so the Chinese won't just sell them for next to nothing.

The endgame is 0 CNY, 0 BTC and no trades.

Agreed, volume is already drying up on BTC China and OkCoin.

True, however, if the Chinese prohibit CNY withdrawals (which I think will happen next), It will be very difficult for average users to sell their existing Bitcoins and cash out.

They could sell bitcoin at BTC-E, cash out as USD code, and sell the code for CNY. I predict this as the future of bitcoin trading in China
1714  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 國人應轉到BTC-E交易 on: December 21, 2013, 04:02:41 PM
BTC-E是各大平台中, 唯一可以提現為USD code的. 以後大家只需要在BTC-E交易, 然後在場外通過支付寶交易USD code, 那就根本不用理會什麼央行規定了.

另外,有谁在 btc-e 、mtgox 上提现成功的,请分享一下经验。(我的经验是无法提现)



我可以向你们买btc-e USD code。以美元wire transfer给你。
问题在于trust。 我先把钱汇给你,我怕收不到BTC. 你先把BTC send给我,你怕收不到钱。

國內交易可以用支付寶, 0成本, 可以以小單位買賣 (如每次數十元人民幣), 互信後可增大

我不在国内。

如果你不在國內, 又沒有國內銀行戶口, 又沒有用支付寶, 那央行封殺根本就和你無關吧
1715  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 國人應轉到BTC-E交易 on: December 21, 2013, 01:36:31 PM
BTC-E是各大平台中, 唯一可以提現為USD code的. 以後大家只需要在BTC-E交易, 然後在場外通過支付寶交易USD code, 那就根本不用理會什麼央行規定了.

另外,有谁在 btc-e 、mtgox 上提现成功的,请分享一下经验。(我的经验是无法提现)



我可以向你们买btc-e USD code。以美元wire transfer给你。
问题在于trust。 我先把钱汇给你,我怕收不到BTC. 你先把BTC send给我,你怕收不到钱。

國內交易可以用支付寶, 0成本, 可以以小單位買賣 (如每次數十元人民幣), 互信後可增大
1716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 21, 2013, 12:44:10 PM
WTF another Block and my transaction still not included !!!!! I didn't pay any fee thought....I missed 610 and 600 and now it is 592.... F#$% the free transaction  Angry

So you saved $0.06 and lost hundreds or thousands?  Roll Eyes
1717  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 國人應轉到BTC-E交易 on: December 21, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
有骗人去 lakebtc ,鄙视

lakebtc,可以就自由提现转账了认证银行信息后,但是要收手续费的银行 0.2%~~0.5%。

lakebtc就这几天才听说,也不知什么背景,反正我是不敢用。


你要是做国债、外汇等专业期货交易的话没理由不听说过,人家在美国金融交易领域也小有名气,可能是是在中国没有什么业务活动所以无人知晓罢了



BTC-E是各大平台中, 唯一可以提現為USD code的. 以後大家只需要在BTC-E交易, 然後在場外通過支付寶交易USD code, 那就根本不用理會什麼央行規定了.

另外,有谁在 btc-e 、mtgox 上提现成功的,请分享一下经验。(我的经验是无法提现)



lakebtc.com 登記人qwjian明顯是漢語拼音, 登記還不足一個月, 連email都是用gmail (https://www.lakebtc.com/s/help),  竟然"在美国金融交易领域也小有名气"? 吹牛也有個限度, 看一下你的歷史, 大概是個托吧?  Roll Eyes
1718  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 21, 2013, 08:34:01 AM
240XBT bought with 160k$
1719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
Sudden dump, i wonder if it will break the 710-705 level

A 1000XBT wall near 4000CNY is just pulled. Pump and dump

I really hate the XBT nomenclature.. Where did it come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217#Without_currency_code

I think it's retarded too. Just ignore ISO and use BTC. Standardizing currency denominators based on issuing country is going out the window anyway.

Even I consider myself as very bullish on the future of bitcoin, I still think this is delusional

Anyway, I have no objection in using BTC, just like RMB=CNY, WON=KRW, YEN=JPY
1720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
Sudden dump, i wonder if it will break the 710-705 level

A 1000XBT wall near 4000CNY is just pulled. Pump and dump
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